Bionicle 2015 Discussion

[Agent Fusion]

I'm OK with this. I hope the series has an art style similar to the first three movies, or the MNOG. I never read the books, so I'll have to read the new ones.

[GK733]

Yeah, MoL and the other two definetly had the best style. However we are probably going to see a style similiar to Hero Factory and TLR. If the writing is good as NinjaGO I might be pretty okay with it. From all the leaks and stuff we have got gives me a feeling that they are doing a little more mature approach than Hero Factory, kudos the whole skullspiders thing for example.

[mysteriouspi]

Random point that has nothing to do with the conversation at hand and everything to do with conversation several pages ago, about the differences between creation vs destruction and light vs shadow:

I watched the finale of MNOG last night. We know Bionicle G1 focused on light vs shadow, but MNOG was a different story. Makuta brags of and wields the power of destruction, while the Toa defend the power of creation that the Matoran hold. If I didn't know Bionicle so well, I could have been convinced they were beginning a story arc about the MoCr. (Yes, I realize the canon status of MNOG is all up in the air, but hey.)

Just something to think about. Maybe LEGO will handle the creation vs destruction theme in a similar fashion. Maybe they won't. We'll have to see.

[gedren_y]

I never cared about the story and plots Lego devised. I have no interest in building anyone's IP, even Lego's. I buy to build what I want, not what I am told it is supposed to be. That is Lego for me.

I am excited about the prospect of new parts, and existing parts in new colors. The original Bionicle had some wonderful parts that I missed out on, and that I now have to Bricklink for.

[Kalhiki]

I don't see where you get the Skull Spiders being undead from. They're likely called like that because they do look like skulls.

So if Okoto is the new island, that means the document IS real, so there is an animated series planned, Greg is writing the new books and the summer wave is composed from only 5 sets.

Did it ever explicitly say that? I only remember mention of mini movies, which could be something as simple as the Ghost animations we got. I'm not getting my hopes up for a TV show yet. I'll wait for NYCC.

Though the fact that it said they can't talk about it brings things into question...

Edited October 5, 2014 by Kalhiki

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So okoto is confirmed, It's really growing on me.

But that means only five sets for the summer? I hope we get some good titan sets.

Now I really can't wait for NYCC.

[Shakar]

I meant series in the most general way possible. I was a bit in hurry when I wrote that so I guess it can sound ambiguous.

I'd be ok with MNOG style animation, that was my favourite but unfortunately CG animation is all the rage these days (unpopular opinion here: I didn't like the movie designs very much).

[Agent Fusion]

What I didn't like about the movie designs is how the masks had moving mouths and eyebrows on them. Tinseltown Toons' animation was pretty good, and Ghost is good as well, though IFB didn't impress me much.

[Kalhiki]

What I didn't like about the movie designs is how the masks had moving mouths and eyebrows on them. Tinseltown Toons' animation was pretty good, and Ghost is good as well, though IFB didn't impress me much.

Visually, IFB was good. It just needed better writing. And voice work.

Personally, I don't care, either way: 2d or 3D. Just so long as the story's good and isn't overly corny. And it needs good acting. IFB's flat characters were pretty bad.

[Toa of Gallifrey]

I also don't care whether it's 2D or 3D, I just want them toy-accurate like TLR and an awesome soundtrack. (plus good writing of course)

[Agent Fusion]

Yes, the visuals in IFB were good, but everything else just left a bad taste, and really ruined my enjoyment. Didn't Ghost also make the 2007 and 2008 animations?

[Toa of Gallifrey]

Yeah, it'd be nice to see Ghost do the animation here, although I still prefer TTT. It looks more detailed.

[Aanchir]

Yes, the visuals in IFB were good, but everything else just left a bad taste, and really ruined my enjoyment. Didn't Ghost also make the 2007 and 2008 animations?

Yep! Ghost did most of the CGI animations for the entire BIONICLE theme!

[Agent Fusion]

Then maybe Ghost would be a good candidate for the new series.

[Kingslayer]

There has been one thing thats been bugging me recently. Its the fact that there are no named villager sets. We also dont know if Protectors are villagers yet but even so they arent named. Part of what made Bionicle so special to me was the stories about the Matoran, particularly on 01-03. I really hope lego doesnt shift ALL focus onto the Toa. I know they are the main characters but if we dont have characters of the people they are defending then why should I really care about their mission so long as they all get out okay? I really hope we at least get Takua and Jaller in the summer wave similar to how they were sold in 03 with titan sets sold with them. Heck we dont even have any named Villain sets. The only characters we have are the six Toa (and arguably LOSS, though we dont know much about him yet). In 01 we had 18 as sets and even more in story. I could understand Lego just introducing the Toa this year instead of flooding us with 18 characters all at once. Seems to make sense I guess.

If Takanuva is introduced, I hope he just doenst come out of no where(like Rocka) and they actually make Takua transform into him.

[Timeline15]

So Okoto is confirmed eh? Sounds cool enough, vaguely Japanese sounding. Animation wise, I'd prefer the TLR style that was accurate to the sets, as long as they stop putting mouth holes In the masks for no reason. You can tell who is talking without them. All they do is show part of the ugly head underneath. gresh got infinitely uglier the instant he opened his helmet.

[Agent Fusion]

I assume that the Protectors are just the general design for the villagers, and in the media individual characters will be named.

[Lyichir]

I assume that the Protectors are just the general design for the villagers, and in the media individual characters will be named.

That would be my guess as well. I suppose we'll see.

[Still Raindrop]

There has been one thing thats been bugging me recently. Its the fact that there are no named villager sets. We also dont know if Protectors are villagers yet but even so they arent named. Part of what made Bionicle so special to me was the stories about the Matoran, particularly on 01-03. I really hope lego doesnt shift ALL focus onto the Toa.

I agree--however, it is important to note that the first year we got regular-release Matoran sets for all 6 elements was 2004. 2001 had no regular release Matoran (only promotional through McDonalds and the Power Pack), and 2002 only had Nuparu in the Boxor. 2003 was the first year we got regular-release, stand-alone Matoran sets, and even then it wasn't for all the elements.

I don't think this is the best way to go about things--I was always a bit upset as a kid that I couldn't get more Matoran, or even get all 6 McToran (I think I got 4). However, even if the Protectors aren't the villagers (and, as you point out, they very well could be), that doesn't necessarily mean that the story won't have any villager characters.

Edited October 5, 2014 by Mariko

[Kingslayer]

I agree--however, it is important to note that the first year we got regular-release Matoran sets for all 6 elements was 2004. 2001 had no regular release Matoran (only promotional through McDonalds and the Power Pack), and 2002 only had Nuparu in the Boxor. 2003 was the first year we got regular-release, stand-alone Matoran sets, and even then it wasn't for all the elements.

I don't think this is the best way to go about things--I was always a bit upset as a kid that I couldn't get more Matoran, or even get all 6 McToran (I think I got 4). However, even if the Protectors aren't the villagers (and, as you point out, they very well could be), that doesn't necessarily mean that the story won't have any villager characters.

Ah very true. But still at least the ones that were released had names

[Aanchir]

Ah very true. But still at least the ones that were released had names

Who's to say these characters won't? We can't assume that they won't have actual names just because the names of the sets don't feature any.

[Agent Fusion]

Like I said, I believe the villagers will have names in the story, but they all look like their respective sets. E.g. every Ta-Matoran will look like the Fire Protector, but each will have their own name and personality.

[Aanchir]

Like I said, I believe the villagers will have names in the story, but they all look like their respective sets. E.g. every Ta-Matoran will look like the Fire Protector, but each will have their own name and personality.

I think there would be at least slight variations in at least the visual media. Otherwise things would get really confusing.

[Agent Fusion]

Yeah, maybe different colour shades on their armour, eye colour, equipment or something else entirely.

Edited October 5, 2014 by Agent Fusion

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Like I said, I believe the villagers will have names in the story, but they all look like their respective sets. E.g. every Ta-Matoran will look like the Fire Protector, but each will have their own name and personality.

I kinda hope this doesn't happen, I liked it in 2001 where we had different matoran with different masks, colors, etc.

And I may have said before, but I'm not exactly thrilled with the protectors all having the same mask. But on the bright side it is a good mask and allows for recolors. (Would've preferred mask packs though.)