Mandate Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) I honestly don't understand the hate for social media. I mean, we're all communicating on the internet right now... Facebook, Twitter etc. are pretty bloody similar in that regard, just a little more instantaneous. That, and there's tons of great communities for Lego fans away from Eurobricks and BZPower - the Piece Out FB group for example, is a superb little community of constraction MOCists. Also, the Bionicle tag on Tumblr has some fun characters within it. The hate isn't for the LEGO fan communities, or for the idea of communication. It's hate for the ridiculous amount of hipsters, activists and general stupidity that happens in those places. I think it's great that there are lovely little communities of LEGO MOCists on Facebook or Tumblr, and I respect those people for what they do and would gladly accept them. But at the same time, I have a general distaste for Facebook after the crazy amounts of stupidity I've seen on it by the people that heralded it in the first place. You could attribute it to the "reverse-hipster" movement, but that's not entirely an accurate portrayal of why people hate it. It's like DeviantArt: you can find lots of great artwork there, but it's far more well known for the unspeakable horrors that coexist with them. Anyway, back on-topic, I hope that if we see Matoran-style builds for the villager class sets they'll just come with a spare recolored mask, and without anything fancy like the transparent blend on the Protectors' masks. The Protectors have really cool masks, but they severely limit MOCing potential with the transparent blend inside them. Edited March 31, 2015 by Mandate Quote
TheOneVeyronian Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Sorry, just to clarify that I don't hate social media at all. Believe me, I used to have accounts on many of Facebook's predecessors and used them almost all the time, then something happened and now I'm put off general social media for life (aside from Flickr, which I just use as a picture host). I much prefer specialised communities like this anyway where it's not about popularity... but that's enough on the subject, I shouldn't have really brought it up in the first place EDIT: Mandate managed to sum up some of my thoughts pretty well. Besides, I don't go out much, and my only camera that I can connect to my computer/Internet is too cumbersome to carry around for general use anyway, and even if I did carry it round, I'd completely forget to look for faces in stuff And people talking about seeing masks in rock formations? I absolutely love it, seeing as I studied geology and love the Bionicle masks. Almost makes me want to flick through my field trip pictures looking for faces in the rocks I took pictures of myself Edited March 31, 2015 by TheOneVeyronian Quote
Mandate Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 And people talking about seeing masks in rock formations? Are you implying we're all crazy for seeing the Vahi everywhere? Quote
TheOneVeyronian Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Are you implying we're all crazy for seeing the Vahi everywhere? Nope, not at all. I'd never imply anybody was crazy, I was just seeing people comment about real life rock formations looking like classic masks and how I liked that. After all we geologists are gneiss people* *Sorry, couldn't resist. Geologist's joke. Look up "gneiss" if you don't get it ;o) Quote
Logan McOwen Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) >snip< Mods, please delete? Edited March 31, 2015 by LewiMOC Quote
MakutaOfWar Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) I've seen some pretty creepy natural formations in my lifetime... at least one, but it was one to remember. Not very Bionicle like though unless there was a mask that resembles a person gasping for air coming out of a tree, but this comment is semi-off topic just thought I'd share because I'm bored... So if they did decide to make villager sets I suppose recolors of the Toa masks or something would be cool. I wonder how the builds would differ from the Protectors though. Edit: Curious, what mask would anybody want recolored? Thought I'd ask. Edited March 31, 2015 by MakutaOfWar Quote
Scarilian Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) And I honestly don't understand the hate for social media. I think its the general idea that with an email adress or name you can find out a lot about people, that generally scares parents who prevent their kids from using facebook, twitter or otherwise because they are panicked by what they generally see or hear on TV (Being extreme examples of what might happen) That's what I think'll happen. If you submit a red face and win for that week, you'll get Tahu. If your red face wins as an overall winner, you'll get the gold Mask of Fire. Only issue i'm noticing with this whole idea is that its fundamentally flawed. If you enter a red face and someone has already won a Tahu the previous week, could you still win a Tahu that week or are they giving out one of each toa? Meaning that if you enter a red face after a Tahu is given out then you are'nt elligible to win that week because the set has been given out. If they are giving out one of each Toa then you'd need to make a different entry every week to correspond to the Toa... and if they dont explain which Toa they are giving away each week then you'd have to enter 6 times in each week to cover each variation. Then you have to question whether you can post the same entry for multiple weeks or whether you can only enter the entry once, if its only once then you'd have to make 36 seperate photo's (6 of each mask element) overall, just so that you could enter every week to maximise your chance of winning. (I have checked the rules regarding this and its not specified either, so not sure the situation regarding mask entrants corresponding to chances to win) Edit: Curious, what mask would anybody want recolored? Thought I'd ask. Similar to the Mask Of Light i'd like some variations of the Mask Of Creation for the purpose of using the mask as hands - A black and red version of the mask to represent that its been corrupted by evil - A silver or gray version of the mask to represent that its been drained of power I'd also like the villains masks for the summer to come in a single colour also, such as a black or silver. Edited March 31, 2015 by Scarilian Quote
Mandate Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Nope, not at all. I'd never imply anybody was crazy, I was just seeing people comment about real life rock formations looking like classic masks and how I liked that. It was meant to be a joke Quote
Aanchir Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 If you enter a red face and someone has already won a Tahu the previous week, could you still win a Tahu that week or are they giving out one of each toa? Meaning that if you enter a red face after a Tahu is given out then you are'nt elligible to win that week because the set has been given out. From my understanding they are giving out one of each Toa each week, so they will be giving out 36 Toa total over the six-week period. Quote
Toa of Gallifrey Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Wait, isn't it that they pick 6 winners each week but don't reward them, then tally up the overall 36 winners and award 6 people from there? Quote
TheOneVeyronian Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 It was meant to be a joke I know it was a joke I just wanted an excuse to use the rock related joke in return Anyway, from reading around on various news sites, to clear up any confusion there seems to be regarding the contest, it sounds like the top entry for each element in a week will get a corresponding element Toa. There will be 36 top entries, 6 for each element, 1 of each element is picked in eah entry period. Then they'll choose one Fire, one Water, one Jungle, one Stone, one Earth and one Ice face out of those 36 (remembering there are 6 of each in the final 36), and those will win the corresponding elemental solid gold mask. Brick Fanatics I think explains it best. Interestingly, the 14 karat gold masks seem to be each valued at $160 (or so I read via The Brick Fan anyway, am I reading it wrong? Don't seem right, I thought the gold masks were worth $2,000+ each? ) Quote
Aanchir Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) I know it was a joke I just wanted an excuse to use the rock related joke in return Anyway, from reading around on various news sites, to clear up any confusion there seems to be regarding the contest, it sounds like the top entry for each element in a week will get a corresponding element Toa. There will be 36 top entries, 6 for each element, 1 of each element is picked in eah entry period. Then they'll choose one Fire, one Water, one Jungle, one Stone, one Earth and one Ice face out of those 36 (remembering there are 6 of each in the final 36), and those will win the corresponding elemental solid gold mask. Brick Fanatics I think explains it best. Interestingly, the 14 karat gold masks seem to be each valued at $160 (or so I read via The Brick Fan anyway, am I reading it wrong? Don't seem right, I thought the gold masks were worth $2,000+ each? ) I believe that's just their material value. The reason masks like that sell for such high costs has more to do with their exclusivity than their production and material costs. Edited March 31, 2015 by Aanchir Quote
TheOneVeyronian Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 I believe that's just their material value. The reason masks like that sell for such high costs has more to do with their exclusivity than their production and material costs. The $2,000 value I recalled was from LEGO's BFTGM rules (not from actual sales of similar objects): The top prize on each site has a maximum total estimated price value $120 retail and the overall grand prize 14k gold mask has a value of $2,000. And at the time I (and many others) thought that was the golden Skull Spider mask's material value. But maybe not. Maybe that value was inflated by LEGO? Either way, it's an interesting anomaly. Quote
WARHEAD Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Pretty sure what they meant with the 160$ thing was the value of the set prizes the finalists on each site got, IE. the whole winter wave. Quote
Scarilian Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 I know it was a joke I just wanted an excuse to use the rock related joke in return Anyway, from reading around on various news sites, to clear up any confusion there seems to be regarding the contest, it sounds like the top entry for each element in a week will get a corresponding element Toa. There will be 36 top entries, 6 for each element, 1 of each element is picked in eah entry period. Then they'll choose one Fire, one Water, one Jungle, one Stone, one Earth and one Ice face out of those 36 (remembering there are 6 of each in the final 36), and those will win the corresponding elemental solid gold mask. Brick Fanatics I think explains it best. Interestingly, the 14 karat gold masks seem to be each valued at $160 (or so I read via The Brick Fan anyway, am I reading it wrong? Don't seem right, I thought the gold masks were worth $2,000+ each? ) Thanks for the clarification, 36 winners definitely seems to be a great competition. Though does that means one would need to enter 36 seperate images (6 elemental faces, 6 different versions, 6 images per week) in order to maximise chances of winning? Quote
mysteriouspi Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Wait, isn't it that they pick 6 winners each week but don't reward them, then tally up the overall 36 winners and award 6 people from there? The rules indicate that each week, the winner of each element will win the Toa of that corresponding element. Which means 36 winners will receive a Toa set, and of those 36, 6 of them will win the gold mask for that Toa. Quote
DraikNova Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 I kind of have to get a Facebook account soon, so I might as well take three dozen pictures and post them over the six weeks. Quote
TheOneVeyronian Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Pretty sure what they meant with the 160$ thing was the value of the set prizes the finalists on each site got, IE. the whole winter wave. Not exactly, you're thinking of BFTGM, and that was stated at $120 (though that was increased to $180 as they ended up including Protectors) I'm talking about what LEGO have stated the gold mask values as in the current Mask Hunt contest (according to The Brick Fan). This was the paragraph from mentioned site where I got the $160 figure from: Each weekly winner will get a LEGO BIONICLE set corresponding to the submitted mask element. (Total value of $14,99 – $19,99 / EUR 14,99 – EUR 19,99). Each of the overall winners will win one of the 14 karat gold masks that correspond to the submitted mask element. (Total value of $159.99 / EUR 159,99) Maybe it is just the value of the gold as it is nowadays, it's not nearly as expensive as it used to be a year ago Anyway... Though does that means one would need to enter 36 seperate images (6 elemental faces, 6 different versions, 6 images per week) in order to maximise chances of winning? That would give you the maximum chance of one of yours being picked in theory, and the best option of keeping your choices open. Though coming up with 36 unique entries might be difficult for some. I wonder if the competiton will say that only one of your entries can win? As it sounds at the moment, it sounds entirely possible to win in all 6 elemental categories, one every week, or even all 36 winning entries could be by the same person (though what's the chances of that, one in a million or even more?). I imagine LEGO would want to restrict the amount of times one person can win a Toa set to 1, like they did with BFTGM, right? I couldn't see anything mentioned relating to that, so thought I'd put it out there. Quote
Scarilian Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) That would give you the maximum chance of one of yours being picked in theory, and the best option of keeping your choices open. Though coming up with 36 unique entries might be difficult for some. I wonder if the competiton will say that only one of your entries can win? As it sounds at the moment, it sounds entirely possible to win in all 6 elemental categories, one every week, or even all 36 winning entries could be by the same person (though what's the chances of that, one in a million or even more?). I imagine LEGO would want to restrict the amount of times one person can win a Toa set to 1, like they did with BFTGM, right? I couldn't see anything mentioned relating to that, so thought I'd put it out there. I guess it will be restricted so you can only win one toa and one golden mask at most. What i am more concerned about is the amount of non-rule abiding entries i've been seeing such as one dude who just put a hat on or someone else who took a photo of a bohrok as entrants, yet were somehow both accepted by the Lego group on facebook. I thought the idea of the competition was go out and see structures or enviromental things, something which was focused on in the video, but instead its just people photographing outlets and speakers and themselves or their pets or official media or their toys and entering them. I mean, i know i cant be the only one who has qualms with this right? It just seems people are entering whatever they find rather than putting much thought into it. Just annoys me that despite these seemingly not being the style of entry Lego wanted people to make, they are still being allowed and could win ¬.¬ Edited April 1, 2015 by Scarilian Quote
Clone 01354 Productions Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 II thought the idea of the competition was go out and see structures or enviromental things, something which was focused on in the video, but instead its just people photographing outlets and speakers and themselves or their pets or official media or their toys and entering them. I mean, i know i cant be the only one who has qualms with this right? It just seems people are entering whatever they find rather than putting much thought into it. Just annoys me that despite these seemingly not being the style of entry Lego wanted people to make, they are still being allowed and could win ¬.¬ *Probably none of those entries will win. :V Seriously, LEGO can't delete anything that might be a ridiculous entry; they'll just accept it, and then not vote for it. Quote
Dorek Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 I mean, i know i cant be the only one who has qualms with this right? It just seems people are entering whatever they find rather than putting much thought into it. Just annoys me that despite these seemingly not being the style of entry Lego wanted people to make, they are still being allowed and could win ¬.¬[/b] I'm sure there will be some kind of oversight; they can pull together judges for an MoCing contest, so sifting through photographs shouldn't be too different. It's a lot easier to just accept all the entries at once and DQ later, rather than individual vetting; that's just impractical. Quote
Kabootops Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) Agreed. Though I did indeed take a picture of my little brother's toy truck. It looked like a Miru/Krana, so I had to do it. :P Edited April 1, 2015 by Kabootops Quote
Scarilian Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) *Probably none of those entries will win. :V Seriously, LEGO can't delete anything that might be a ridiculous entry; they'll just accept it, and then not vote for it. I'm sure there will be some kind of oversight; they can pull together judges for an MoCing contest, so sifting through photographs shouldn't be too different. It's a lot easier to just accept all the entries at once and DQ later, rather than individual vetting; that's just impractical. True i guess, just would be a little disappointing if one of the winning entries turned out to be one of the many speakers currently entered into the contest or something Lego made :P Edited April 1, 2015 by Scarilian Quote
Clone 01354 Productions Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Of course the one day I go to take a picture (of the mountain I said looks like a Miru), the roads leading to the mountain are closed for repairs for a week. Well then..... Also, I was thinking about this today: All of the Toa have a gold mask that corresponds to their elemental-colored mask. So, is there a chance that for Ekimu and Makuta, we may get a white/blue MOCR and a black/purple MOCO? That would be absolutely epic.... Quote
Mandate Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Ekimu's "Golden Mask" is the MOCR itself, possibly to change if "Toa Ekimu" rumors are correct (please no LEGO). That just made me realize something... there's a chance we'll get a gold/trans purple blend and/or a black/trans red blend of Protector masks! Quote
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