Future DC Super Heroes Rumors & Speculation

[TheBrickBuilder14]

2 minutes ago, BrickSantorum said:

You're totally right. That'll teach me to post before I've had my second cup of coffee.

Haha, I know the feeling ;)

[Nsk97]

9 hours ago, Duncan Young said:

A pretty good one would be the latest Captain Boomerang’s

Ah good idea, thanks!

[Numbuh1Nerd]

On 1/26/2018 at 1:39 AM, PepperoniBricks said:

I just found it. Now they're just mocking us and our lack of Jervis.

It honestly makes me wonder if there isn't some weird licensing or legal issue that's kept him out for so long. He's one of the biggest Bat-rogues, but even the LEGO Batman Movie didn't touch him for some reason. It seems...intentional.

[BaneShake]

1 hour ago, Numbuh1Nerd said:

It honestly makes me wonder if there isn't some weird licensing or legal issue that's kept him out for so long. He's one of the biggest Bat-rogues, but even the LEGO Batman Movie didn't touch him for some reason. It seems...intentional.

Shouldn't be. The original character he is based off of is public domain.

[ZoKpooL]

2 hours ago, Numbuh1Nerd said:

LEGO Batman Movie didn't touch him for some reason

Sequel. 

Also, it's weird what we didn't have even a 66 Jervis. 

C'mon, LEGO even released a Moth inspired by 66. 

[Numbuh1Nerd]

5 hours ago, PepperoniBricks said:

Shouldn't be. The original character he is based off of is public domain.

It would have to be an absolute mess of a rights issue if it is one, but if it's not that, I'd say maybe it has something to do with twisting Alice in Wonderland that they might not be okay with for the sake of the kids? Or a thought that's even more out there: maybe Disney's got a deal that keeps him from happening? It could potentially harm the brand. 

It's worth mentioning that Imaginext has also yet to produce a Mad Hatter toy, despite having plenty of opportunities and a cast of characters at least as wide as Lego's. He hasn't had a role bigger than a cameo in an animated project since B:tAS (excluding Batman: Bad Blood, which doesn't exactly share the same demographic as DC's other animated properties). His presence in toys is limited to very few B:tAS, Arkham City, and '66 tie-ins (and one Long Halloween figure). Not even a Funko Pop for this guy! He must be blacklisted or something, because there is literally no other way to justify such a complete dead zone for one of the biggest Batman villains. 

[RedHoodPug]

1 hour ago, Numbuh1Nerd said:

It would have to be an absolute mess of a rights issue if it is one, but if it's not that, I'd say maybe it has something to do with twisting Alice in Wonderland that they might not be okay with for the sake of the kids? Or a thought that's even more out there: maybe Disney's got a deal that keeps him from happening? It could potentially harm the brand. 

It's worth mentioning that Imaginext has also yet to produce a Mad Hatter toy, despite having plenty of opportunities and a cast of characters at least as wide as Lego's. He hasn't had a role bigger than a cameo in an animated project since B:tAS (excluding Batman: Bad Blood, which doesn't exactly share the same demographic as DC's other animated properties). His presence in toys is limited to very few B:tAS, Arkham City, and '66 tie-ins (and one Long Halloween figure). Not even a Funko Pop for this guy! He must be blacklisted or something, because there is literally no other way to justify such a complete dead zone for one of the biggest Batman villains. 

Interesting, didn’t realise the embargo wasn’t just Lego. Thinking about it now, I haven’t seen an Imaginext one either, and they have done Mr Miracle and Carrie Kelly! 

[ZoKpooL]

4 hours ago, Numbuh1Nerd said:

His presence in toys is limited

Exactly like every Bat-Villlain aside Joker, Harley and Penguin and Freeze? 

4 hours ago, Numbuh1Nerd said:

one of the biggest Batman villains

Like Black Mask, of Firefly, of Clayface (at least he is finally released in Lego) and like other 15 guys? 

[Mattybrick]

I was also just thinking the other day, that we haven't seen a Swamp Thing figure. He would have to utilize the big fig mold obviously but he would make a great addition to the DC Lego series.

[RedHoodPug]

6 hours ago, Mattybrick said:

I was also just thinking the other day, that we haven't seen a Swamp Thing figure. He would have to utilize the big fig mold obviously but he would make a great addition to the DC Lego series.

There are hundreds of characters which haven’t made it into physical figure form. LB3 did a lot to highlight that for us. And then they didn’t scratch the surface. I would be bankrupt but happy to see a bolstered roster.

[Numbuh1Nerd]

6 hours ago, ZoKpooL said:

Exactly like every Bat-Villlain aside Joker, Harley and Penguin and Freeze? 

Like Black Mask, of Firefly, of Clayface (at least he is finally released in Lego) and like other 15 guys? 

Not even. Joker, Harley, Penguin, Riddler, Two-Face, Catwoman, Poison Ivy, Scarecrow, Bane, Mr. Freeze, Killer Croc, Clayface, Solomon Grundy, Ra's al Ghul, and Man-Bat are all pretty consistently used in this sort of stuff. Every character I just listed has either an Imaginext figure, a Funko Pop or both, and everyone but Grundy's gotten the LEGO treatment. Mad Hatter's the biggest name that's left untouched, and for some reason, he's left untouched by everyone. Every toy appearance he's had has been in lines aimed at adult collectors rather than kids, and he's the only guy that applies to. Even the likes of Black Mask and Killer Moth have had more presence in your average toy line. My god, we've even got a Tar Pit figure more recently than a Mad Hatter! Batman: BatB kept him to a handful of voiceless cameos, Beware the Batman didn't touch him, and The Batman passed him by even with their drastic redesigns and re-imaginings (and even used the likes of Wrath and Scorn, and - again - Black Mask). He effectively disappeared completely from children's media after B:tAS - a show where he lead multiple episodes. That can't just be a coincidence. 
 

6 hours ago, Mattybrick said:

I was also just thinking the other day, that we haven't seen a Swamp Thing figure. He would have to utilize the big fig mold obviously but he would make a great addition to the DC Lego series.

 Swamp Thing would be wonderful! They've given Alec a lot more attention as of late, but if that Justice League Dark movie ever actually comes to fruition, his odds of making it into a set are 100%. Depending on how that movie pans out, rating-wise, I'd say we'd at least get what we got for Suicide Squad (especially since most of the lineup they're using have been prominently featured on Justice League Action).

2 minutes ago, RedHoodPug said:

There are hundreds of characters which haven’t made it into physical figure form. LB3 did a lot to highlight that for us. And then they didn’t scratch the surface. I would be bankrupt but happy to see a bolstered roster.

This latest wave has been so wonderful about that, though! Six new characters in the main theme, seven in the LBM sets, and eight more in the CMF wave! 21 new characters, 9 of which are heroes! (10 if you count Killer Frost) I was really hoping we'd carry that into the summer, but 21 is nothing to scoff at, and we're at least getting brand new villains and at least one new hero in the form of Ace the Bathound! Another wave or two like this one and we'll have a pretty impressive DCU yet!

[ZoKpooL]

44 minutes ago, Numbuh1Nerd said:

Beware the Batman didn't touch him

He is planned for second season so far i know, with Nocturna and Payne Clayface, who teseared in 25 ep. 

45 minutes ago, Numbuh1Nerd said:

Batman: BatB kept him to a handful of voiceless cameos

But he is 'own hero' of several tie-in comics issues. 

46 minutes ago, Numbuh1Nerd said:

That can't just be a coincidence

Hm, maybe writers JUST don't want him? 

48 minutes ago, Numbuh1Nerd said:

Even the likes of Black Mask and Killer Moth have had more presence in your average toy line

Hm, where? 

48 minutes ago, Numbuh1Nerd said:

Catwoman and Man-Bat

Funny thing about it: they not villains in main contunity. I'm really wanna toyline where they threated as heroes, not some PUUUURFECT THIEF AND EVIL BATMAN. 

But i'm got your point. I really love Hatter, but i'm don't think it's some CONSPIRACY. 

 

7 hours ago, Mattybrick said:

I was also just thinking the other day, that we haven't seen a Swamp Thing figure. He would have to utilize the big fig mold obviously but he would make a great addition to the DC Lego series.

Lego should just give us Green-thematic set with Alec and Bruce and Floro and Ivy as villains. love them as dysfunctional family, when only Alec have a brain. 

 

[InnerRayg]

No offense, but since when does anyone care that much about Mad Hatter? I always took him to be a c-Lister at best.

[Nsk97]

If I had to speculate on why Hatter is the villain left out of toylines aimed at kids I would say it is possibly due to how he is portrayed in the comics. Sure most of the villains have done pretty awful things and killed people but Hatter is often portrayed as being obsessed with young girls and sometimes outright referred to as a paedophile.

I am not saying we won't get a Lego version of Hatter though as they have had no issue using him in the games and it really does seem like a number of new molds have been designed with him in mind.

14 minutes ago, InnerRayg said:

No offense, but since when does anyone care that much about Mad Hatter? I always took him to be a c-Lister at best.

Personally I've always thought he was a fairly interesting character, he's certainly not a major bat villain but he is recurrent enough to be relatively well known and he is at least a tier above killer moth 

[Duncan Young]

1 minute ago, Nsk97 said:

If I had to speculate on why Hatter is the villain left out of toylines aimed at kids I would say it is possibly due to how he is portrayed in the comics. Sure most of the villains have done pretty awful things and killed people but Hatter is often portrayed as being obsessed with young girls and sometimes outright referred to as a paedophile.

I am not saying we won't get a Lego version of Hatter though as they have had no issue using him in the games and it really does seem like a number of new molds have been designed with him in mind.

On the subject of the video games, Hatter is one of the only characters to be featured in all three games but not be released physically (the only other is Hush). This probably doesn’t mean anything, just something I noticed

[Nsk97]

28 minutes ago, Duncan Young said:

On the subject of the video games, Hatter is one of the only characters to be featured in all three games but not be released physically (the only other is Hush). This probably doesn’t mean anything, just something I noticed

Huh that's interesting, I didn't realise it was just those 2. Surely Hatter should come before hush, but then hush is a very easy one to have as a promotional minifigure with a game or book or something, as he doesnt need any pieces other than a head, torso and legs.

[BrickSantorum]

1 hour ago, Nsk97 said:

If I had to speculate on why Hatter is the villain left out of toylines aimed at kids I would say it is possibly due to how he is portrayed in the comics. Sure most of the villains have done pretty awful things and killed people but Hatter is often portrayed as being obsessed with young girls and sometimes outright referred to as a paedophile.

I am not saying we won't get a Lego version of Hatter though as they have had no issue using him in the games and it really does seem like a number of new molds have been designed with him in mind.

Personally I've always thought he was a fairly interesting character, he's certainly not a major bat villain but he is recurrent enough to be relatively well known and he is at least a tier above killer moth 

I have zero insider information, but I have to wonder if the reason has more to do with not upsetting Disney. I know the character is in the public domain, and any similarities between his design in the Batman comics and the Disney film is due to their common origin in the book's illustrations, but I could see Disney defending their version of the character pretty aggressively.

[Alberto Brick]

I think the explanation is much simpler. There are some characters that Lego likes to make us wait. Perhaps to keep the interest of the fans alive, boh. 4Lom from Star Wars comes to mind, he has arrived after 20 years of license. We are still waiting for Zuckuss ? Surely we will have the hatter, sooner or later

Edited January 29, 2018 by Alberto Brick

[RedHoodPug]

4 hours ago, Numbuh1Nerd said:

This latest wave has been so wonderful about that, though! Six new characters in the main theme, seven in the LBM sets, and eight more in the CMF wave! 21 new characters, 9 of which are heroes! (10 if you count Killer Frost) I was really hoping we'd carry that into the summer, but 21 is nothing to scoff at, and we're at least getting brand new villains and at least one new hero in the form of Ace the Bathound! Another wave or two like this one and we'll have a pretty impressive DCU yet!

Don’t get me wrong, I’m really grateful for all the new figs that have come our way recently. It’s more the annoyance that certain characters get dragged out for another round while some, which a lot of fans clamour for, are still out in the cold. It’s all matter of time stuff, but we could have seen more sooner. I know a certain amount of it will be down to what sets they could go in. Lego isn’t daft enough to just give us a straight up DC themed CMF, but they also have to get pretty archival when it comes to appropriate builds. All I ask is if they start a new team, could they be so kind as to complete it?

[NXS7]

4 hours ago, ZoKpooL said:

He is planned for second season so far i know, with Nocturna and Payne Clayface, who teseared in 25 ep

Season 2? The show got cancelled like halfway through release, then they just broadcasted the remaining episodes

3 hours ago, Nsk97 said:

Huh that's interesting, I didn't realise it was just those 2. Surely Hatter should come before hush, but then hush is a very easy one to have as a promotional minifigure with a game or book or something, as he doesnt need any pieces other than a head, torso and legs.

Hatter could just as easy appear in a promotion, as doesn't require new molds either, just torso, head, legs and LBM Penguins hat. Personally I would rather see Hush than Hatter, the Hush storyline is one of my favorite DC works

Edited January 30, 2018 by Quicksilver838

[ZoKpooL]

2 hours ago, Quicksilver838 said:

Season 2? The show got cancelled like halfway through release, then they just broadcasted the remaining episodes

Not really. It's never truly known what happened to show in end of production at all. GLTAS and Beware in fact had planes for seconds seasons, like YJ for three. season 

6 hours ago, InnerRayg said:

I always took him to be a c-Lister at best.

And? Whats wrong with that?

4 hours ago, BrickSantorum said:

I have zero insider information, but I have to wonder if the reason has more to do with not upsetting Disney.

Unlikely. Maybe If ever Disney don't want another companies to use Taniel classic Mad Hatter's look from book, where like is dozens of different Jervis designs (mustache comes to mind first for example).

4 hours ago, Alberto Brick said:

We are still waiting for Zuckuss ? Surely we will have the hatter, sooner or later

This. 

[Nsk97]

6 hours ago, Quicksilver838 said:

Hatter could just as easy appear in a promotion, as doesn't require new molds either, just torso, head, legs and LBM Penguins hat. Personally I would rather see Hush than Hatter, the Hush storyline is one of my favorite DC works

Yeah that is true now. They would probably give him the bow tie piece too. 

Weirdly I am the complete opposite of you though, I would much prefer Hatter than Hush. I've always felt Hush was overrated as he only appears in a handful of storylines and his main storyline is probably his weakest, in my opinion, due to the poor writing in the second half. The first half of the Hush storyline is awesome though, it just goes off the rails midway through. 

[ZoKpooL]

8 hours ago, Nsk97 said:

Hush was overrated

Not really. Now he is very low-level villain, far from even Hater. 

[Numbuh1Nerd]

20 hours ago, ZoKpooL said:

He is planned for second season so far i know, with Nocturna and Payne Clayface, who teseared in 25 ep. 

But he is 'own hero' of several tie-in comics issues. 

Hm, maybe writers JUST don't want him? 

Hm, where? 

Funny thing about it: they not villains in main contunity. I'm really wanna toyline where they threated as heroes, not some PUUUURFECT THIEF AND EVIL BATMAN. 

But i'm got your point. I really love Hatter, but i'm don't think it's some CONSPIRACY. 

 

Lego should just give us Green-thematic set with Alec and Bruce and Floro and Ivy as villains. love them as dysfunctional family, when only Alec have a brain. 

 

I can't find anything on what that second season would've been. If you've got a link, I'd love to see it - that was a pretty underrated show and I love hearing about that sort of thing!
That seems unlikely, especially since he's used pretty consistently in the comics. 
Black Mask had a 4" figure as part of the DC Multiverse line based on his appearance in Arkham Origins. Not a lot, but 4" figures like that rarely exist for collectors. Killer Moth has had a few figures in some of the general DC lines, but he also got one for 2004's The Batman.
Seriously though! DC's been on such a turning-popular-villains-into-heroes kick lately and it's honestly so frustrating. They're good villains for a reason! 
I'm not saying it's anything so sinister, just the sort of corporate decision companies make all the time without saying outright. It's like Marvel and the X-Men/Fantastic Four stuff - sometimes they just quietly say "No, use someone else".

I'd be down for that! I'd be kinda surprised if they actually went for a Floronic Man figure as opposed to a Harley Quinn or a Star Sapphire, but it would certainly be a good opportunity to re-use that new Groot head mold!

 

18 hours ago, BrickSantorum said:

I have zero insider information, but I have to wonder if the reason has more to do with not upsetting Disney. I know the character is in the public domain, and any similarities between his design in the Batman comics and the Disney film is due to their common origin in the book's illustrations, but I could see Disney defending their version of the character pretty aggressively.

That's what I'm thinking. Disney's legal team is scary, and they are really protective of their brand. If they thought for a second that a kid could see Mad Hatter as a villain, Diane Nelson would wake up next to Comet the Superhorse's severed head. There's a lot of possible answers to this one, but this seems pretty plausible. 

17 hours ago, Alberto Brick said:

I think the explanation is much simpler. There are some characters that Lego likes to make us wait. Perhaps to keep the interest of the fans alive, boh. 4Lom from Star Wars comes to mind, he has arrived after 20 years of license. We are still waiting for Zuckuss  Surely we will have the hatter, sooner or later

If they were holding out on Batman villains, we probably wouldn't've gotten half the figures we just did from the LEGO Batman Movie. LEGO's well aware that they've got a pretty bottomless supply of characters to choose from that we'd all foam at the mouth for. I don't know why they'd be holding back a Bat-villain - the kind of thing that is 75% tempting only to their target demographic - when they've got the Justice League, Teen Titans, Legions of both Doom and Superheroes, and the rogues gallery of every character other than Batman to pull from for years to come. Star Wars is a lot more limited in that regard than DC is. 

That also doesn't account for the fact that he's pretty much MIA even outside of LEGO, either.

17 hours ago, RedHoodPug said:

Don’t get me wrong, I’m really grateful for all the new figs that have come our way recently. It’s more the annoyance that certain characters get dragged out for another round while some, which a lot of fans clamour for, are still out in the cold. It’s all matter of time stuff, but we could have seen more sooner. I know a certain amount of it will be down to what sets they could go in. Lego isn’t daft enough to just give us a straight up DC themed CMF, but they also have to get pretty archival when it comes to appropriate builds. All I ask is if they start a new team, could they be so kind as to complete it?

Oh no, I feel ya! I'm drowning in Batmans, Jokers, Harleys, and that same exact Superman. I wouldn't even complain if they just did new variants of some of the guys they haven't touched since the first two waves. A Jim Lee Catwoman using that new mask mold, a Bane bigfig without the rebreather and coat, a new Batgirl, all of those would be a-ok to me. They've definitely kept their new characters few and far between for the most part, and it is pretty frustrating, especially when so many of these characters could be dropped into a set without much thought, like Firestorm and Blue Beetle. Just toss in a partner character instead of a cop or a henchmen or another Harley Quinn. As for teams, that would be lovely. It's not even like the teams they have going are that far from completion. If they could just make Saturn Girl, Raven, Heatwave, Mirror Master, Grundy, Bizarro, Toyman, and Giganta, I would be completely satisfied. Heck, I could make do with just Raven and Heatwave at this point. Y'know what wave was really nice? The Suicide Squad one. We got every major character from that movie across a wide variety of sets, without any of them feeling too thematic. Why can't they do the same thing with the Legion of Doom or the Teen Titans? As for a CMF wave, I think the LBM stuff proved that they could totally do something like that for general DC. Fill half the wave with super-desirable new characters, and the other half with some fun variants of the big names (Electric Superman, Flashpoint Batman, and Jay Garrick's Flash would all be great for that) and you'd have a solid batch of figures that wouldn't interfere with their sets, because none of these guys would ever really make the cut for a set anyway. 

[Nsk97]

1 hour ago, ZoKpooL said:

Not really. Now he is very low-level villain, far from even Hater. 

I just meant that people seem to love him as a character when he hasn't really had many storylines in the comics and his main one is known for having a weak second half.