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Agreed, although I think any 'spin-off' will still be called Indiana Jones. I think they'll introduce Chris Pratt as another long-lost son and Indiana Jones will decide to pass on his name as a title, possibly with him either dying of old age or to sacrifice himself for his newly-discovered son.

Ol' Harry just loves to do things like that, am I right? :wink: After Crystal Skull, he seemed to be onboard with everything, so I'm sure we'll see him back in the grand scheme of things. So we could possibly get an "Old Indiana Jones" minfigure in the near future!

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Agreed, although I think any 'spin-off' will still be called Indiana Jones. I think they'll introduce Chris Pratt as another long-lost son and Indiana Jones will decide to pass on his name as a title, possibly with him either dying of old age or to sacrifice himself for his newly-discovered son.

I really hope not, since that would conflict with the established canon, in which Indy survives into his 90s in the 1990s, with quite a few descendants, but none of them taking his ("Indy") name (though "Henry" does get passed on, of course).

Granted that the TV show isn't as well-known or popular as the films, Disney might want to pare it (and all the licensed publications and whatnot) from canon, the way they pared the entire old EU away from the current official Star Wars canon. But I'd really hope not, as the show was honestly the finest addition to Indy lore since the original movie Raiders of the Lost Ark.

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The thing I question is the overall probability. The last Indy movie was a huge let down to many fans, and I wonder how Disney wil market it if it is indeed under their control. (Unlike how The Force Awakens is credited under Lucasfilm) I think we would see Lego sets, but thats also a big year for Disney marketing with Star Wars Anthology films and Avengers Infinity War: Part I. The reboot of the franchise (or fifth continuation installment) could get somewhat lost in marketing amongst the other films, which will most likely be picked up by Lego. We'll have to wait to find out in the coming years how Disney goes about doing this.

Regardless of how many fans feel about the movie, it was still hugely profitable. There's a strong chance another movie could be.

As far as Disney's handling of it goes, it should be similar to their handling of Star Wars, albeit scaled down. Star Wars and Indiana Jones are both owned by Lucasfilm, which in turn is now owned by Disney. Indiana Jones has always been secondary to Star Wars in licensing and merchandising and such, but the major marketing difference between the two franchises in the pre-Disney days was that, while Lucasfilm owned both, Star Wars was distributed by 20th Century Fox, while Indiana Jones was distributed by Paramount. From here on out, Disney will now distribute all new installments of both.

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I really hope not, since that would conflict with the established canon, in which Indy survives into his 90s in the 1990s, with quite a few descendants, but none of them taking his ("Indy") name (though "Henry" does get passed on, of course).

Granted that the TV show isn't as well-known or popular as the films, Disney might want to pare it (and all the licensed publications and whatnot) from canon, the way they pared the entire old EU away from the current official Star Wars canon. But I'd really hope not, as the show was honestly the finest addition to Indy lore since the original movie Raiders of the Lost Ark.

I can't imagine Disney would want to keep in line with the TV series. I think they'll want to create their own canon that doesn't contradict the films and honestly, I can't imagine Harrison Ford will be fit enough to return for a 6th Indiana Jones film. A 5th is already stretching it; certainly, he'll struggle with the action sequences. Killing him off would both help set up a new generation and rid the series the burden of an ageing Harrison Ford.

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I can't imagine Harrison Ford will be fit enough to return for a 6th Indiana Jones film. A 5th is already stretching it; certainly, he'll struggle with the action sequences. Killing him off would both help set up a new generation and rid the series the burden of an ageing Harrison Ford.

Can't imagine he'll be fit enough? The guy broke his leg filming Star Wars, and was healed well enough to fly a plane. He crashed the plane and was in "Critical Condition" which he just popped right out of to fly again.

Most 73 year olds would not be able to heal from a broken leg that quickly...If at all.

The man is definitely fit enough to play Indy in any future installments.

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I can't imagine Disney would want to keep in line with the TV series. I think they'll want to create their own canon that doesn't contradict the films and honestly, I can't imagine Harrison Ford will be fit enough to return for a 6th Indiana Jones film. A 5th is already stretching it; certainly, he'll struggle with the action sequences. Killing him off would both help set up a new generation and rid the series the burden of an ageing Harrison Ford.

But there's no good reason to make a point of contradicting the canon. The four extant films already mesh with the TV series, and the fourth explicitly references it; a new movie that contradicts the TV series might very well contradict the extant movies as well. Besides, the show is wonderful - the greatest addition to the Indy canon since the original Raiders of the Lost Ark, and easily George Lucas's best creation in at least the last thirty years.

Moreover, not only does Ford still want to do a fifth movie, but Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy (who aside from running Lucasfilm, also happens to have co-produced the first four movies) wants to make the movie with Ford. And so does Steven Spielberg.

(It's also widely suspected one of Ford's stipulations for returning to Star Wars as Han Solo was that he also get to do another Indiana Jones movie, though of course nobody outside Disney, Lucasfilm and Harrison himself knows for sure.)

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The four extant films already mesh with the TV series, and the fourth explicitly references it...

Really? I did not know that. What is the reference?

I watched the first two episodes of the TV show on Netflix, but didn't really enjoy them. It's hard to see a little kid running around learning about stuff as an Indiana Jones story, in my opinion.

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Really? I did not know that. What is the reference?

When Indy and Mutt have just arrived in Peru and are walking through the village on their way to the sanatorium, and Indy tells Mutt about having ridden with Pancho Villa.

I watched the first two episodes of the TV show on Netflix, but didn't really enjoy them. It's hard to see a little kid running around learning about stuff as an Indiana Jones story, in my opinion.

Different strokes, and all that. The show's impact is cumulative - one or two individual episodes on their own might not make much of an impression, but taken all together, the series is extraordinary, and elevates the entire franchise.

The episodes also provide background and layers for the character we see in the movies. As he grows up we see him acquire the skillset, experience and personality he has as an adult, with the curious mix of idealism and mercenary qualities that define him. And of course we also see his world itself and how he comes to know it, and why he's such an expert on so many different cultures all over the globe. It's perhaps not for all tastes, and it certainly is different in tone and style from the movies, but it complements them beautifully.

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Well, if/when a movie happens, I'm hoping (and betting) Lego will make sets based on the past movies. That would be huge news for me, since I regretingly sold my old Indy Lego and would be very interested in buying new sets. Especially with all the updates in printing since 2008.

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Well, if/when a movie happens, I'm hoping (and betting) Lego will make sets based on the past movies. That would be huge news for me, since I regretingly sold my old Indy Lego and would be very interested in buying new sets. Especially with all the updates in printing since 2008.

I wholeheartedly agree. The thing about the Indy line when compared to other Licence themes like Harry Potter and Toy Story is a lack of sets and completion.

Its like Lego were halfway through the line and just decided to stop. I'd certainly like to see more based on the 3 original adventures. KotCS had a lot of sets compared to the 3 original movies and the Las two movies barely had any sets.

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Well, if/when a movie happens, I'm hoping (and betting) Lego will make sets based on the past movies. That would be huge news for me, since I regretingly sold my old Indy Lego and would be very interested in buying new sets. Especially with all the updates in printing since 2008.

I'm actually quite happy with most of the printing and other aspects of the existing minifigures, with a handful of exceptions. First, I'd love to see hair printing on anyone wearing a hat. With Indy himself, the wide brim of his fedora is great cover, but most other characters with hats appear to be lacking hair; either hair printing on the heads or more new combined hair / hat elements would be useful. Also, Short Round's hat could really benefit from printing (though I expect MLB's trademarks will prevent TLG from fully recreating the logo on the front). TLG really should also have given Indy clean-shaven faces in Shanghai Chase and Venice Canal Chase, as well as printing the slashes in his shirt on the back of his torso in The Temple of Doom. But still...

I wholeheartedly agree. The thing about the Indy line when compared to other Licence themes like Harry Potter and Toy Story is a lack of sets and completion.

Its like Lego were halfway through the line and just decided to stop. I'd certainly like to see more based on the 3 original adventures. KotCS had a lot of sets compared to the 3 original movies and the Las two movies barely had any sets.

Toy Story also had that lack of completeness, I'd say; most licensed themes do, though Harry Potter does seem to have fared better than many (and of course Star Wars has gotten the best representation of all).

Indiana Jones actually got quite a fair bit - sixteen retail sets in four waves released over two years, which is more than most other licensed themes got. But yes, there are still many glaring omissions.

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I stand corrected! When I look back sets themes like Cars also had that lack of completeness.

Looking at the new Batcave set there are a number of aspects which I think could be used in the Indiana Jones universe. Wayne Manor can be used for Barnett College, the rock pieces can be used to MOD the Temple of Doom set and Alfred's suit could be used for a number of characters.

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Looking at the new Batcave set there are a number of aspects which I think could be used in the Indiana Jones universe. Wayne Manor can be used for Barnett College, the rock pieces can be used to MOD the Temple of Doom set and Alfred's suit could be used for a number of characters.

I've been thinking about it as a tan rockwork "Parts Pack" for my Grail Temple MOC. I'm working on highly intricate play features for some of the "Challenges of God", but I need a lot more tan slopes.

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I've been thinking about it as a tan rockwork "Parts Pack" for my Grail Temple MOC. I'm working on highly intricate play features for some of the "Challenges of God", but I need a lot more tan slopes.

That's a good one. Given that we saw two very similar temples it was an unusual omission at the most.

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That's a good one. Given that we saw two very similar temples it was an unusual omission at the most.

I think it was just too huge of a temple. The façade, Al Khazneh at Petra, is 130 feet tall. That would be a ridiculous thing to try to scale into a LEGO set, unless it was a Creator landmark set (I'm really hoping this happens).

And as I said, that's just the entrance. The interior of the "Grail Temple" has a heck of a lot of details itself. Not to mention play features. For the full effect, LEGO would have to include the three challenges, some sort of transformation for Donovan's aging, and the breaking seal.

Add the horde of necessary minifigures onto that (Indy, Sallah, Brody, Jones Sr, Donovan, Aged Donovan, Elsa, Grail Knight, 1-2 Nazi Soldiers and at least one First Challlenge "Volunteer")and you end up with 9-10 Minifigures, plus whatever skeletons LEGO decides to throw in for fun.

The Grail Temple could easily be a $500 set, and for best results really should be. But who would buy that? I know I would, and I'm guessing Blondie-Wan would, but there's not near as much demand for $500 archeological sites as $500 spaceships.

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wonder if chris pratt would be indy

Pratt would never be Indy. He may be cast as a Dinseyfied adventurer of similar name someday in the future, but he'll never be Indy.

Ford is Indy.

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The Grail Temple could easily be a $500 set, and for best results really should be. But who would buy that? I know I would, and I'm guessing Blondie-Wan would

Speaking as someone who got a combined total of over fifty copies of the sixteen retail sets, I'll say that's a pretty good guess. It would definitely be tough for me, but I'd make it a top priority.

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Pratt would never be Indy. He may be cast as a Dinseyfied adventurer of similar name someday in the future, but he'll never be Indy.

Ford is Indy.

Disagree completely. If Disney do it right, they'll have Chris Pratt as another long-lost son of Indiana Jones who takes on Indiana's name as a title when his father is dying.

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Let me fix this quote for you, LEGODalekbuster523...

If Disney COMPLETELY RUINS THE FRANCHISE AND MAKES IT A TERRIBLE MESS THE LIKES OF WHICH HOLLYWOOD HAS NEVER SEEN, they'll have Chris Pratt as another long-lost son of Indiana Jones who takes on Indiana's name as a title when his father is dying.

There, much better.

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