Hinckley Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 At lynch or lose we can't just kill the block target.
mostlytechnic Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Why should we mass claim? That's basically giving the PRs to the scum with no perceivable benefits to the town. The perceivable benefit is we'd all know who the scum are and we can take them out (with both a lynch AND a vig kill, and maybe get the SK to help depending on his/her win condition), rather than wasting time with the block slowly dribbling info out and fighting over 2 day old codes and other crap.
Piratedave84 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 At lynch or lose we can't just kill the block target. well if we knew who it was it may sway our votes one way or another. If I was blocked, you would not lynch me? If 4 of 2 was blocked, you would not lynch him? If Bock was blocked, you would not lynch him? I would!
mostlytechnic Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 But if no one wants to massclaim, fine. Tell us who the claimed townies are that the block trusts so we can take out the scum. Minga says the block has this basically wrapped up, so tell us so we can get this over with.
Lind Whisperer Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 The perceivable benefit is we'd all know who the scum are and we can take them out (with both a lynch AND a vig kill, and maybe get the SK to help depending on his/her win condition), rather than wasting time with the block slowly dribbling info out and fighting over 2 day old codes and other crap. ...Except that the TB - or members of it, at least - already knows the claims. The only thing a mass claim would do, is give the Scum an easier chance at killing the more important PRs. But if no one wants to massclaim, fine. Tell us who the claimed townies are that the block trusts so we can take out the scum. Minga says the block has this basically wrapped up, so tell us so we can get this over with. "Would you please tell us who the confirmed townies are, so scum doesn't even have to do the work of guessing who they are? Thanks, that'd be awesome. Ooh, and can you bring us all some lattes, too?"
mostlytechnic Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 "Would you please tell us who the confirmed townies are, so scum doesn't even have to do the work of guessing who they are? Thanks, that'd be awesome. Ooh, and can you bring us all some lattes, too?" What are you even talking about? THE SCUM KNOW WHO THE TOWN IS so it's not telling them anything. If the block tells us who's town and who's scum, then the town finally has as much info as the scum do.
Lind Whisperer Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 What are you even talking about? THE SCUM KNOW WHO THE TOWN IS so it's not telling them anything. If the block tells us who's town and who's scum, then the town finally has as much info as the scum do. They know the town, they don't know the PR roles. Seriously - this is basic stuff.
mostlytechnic Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 But as I said earlier, if the block truly has this all solved, then it doesn't matter if the scum know the PRs. We outnumber them and can keep it that way. I was primarily calling for a mass claim since the block doesn't seem to be telling us anything other than "we know who the scum are" but not telling us!
Dragonfire Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 What are you even talking about? THE SCUM KNOW WHO THE TOWN IS so it's not telling them anything. If the block tells us who's town and who's scum, then the town finally has as much info as the scum do. Bock was saying exactly this yesterday. Honestly, it pings me.
Piratedave84 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 They know the town, they don't know the PR roles. Seriously - this is basic stuff. Don't get cocky ... "Would you please tell us who the confirmed townies are, so scum doesn't even have to do the work of guessing who they are? Thanks, that'd be awesome. Ooh, and can you bring us all some lattes, too?" You said it, assume it!
Hinckley Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Don't get cocky ... You said it, assume it! What the hell?
Hinckley Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Paul, you've gone from hiding from direct accusation to screaming at the people who helped you yesterday, all while being the Scummiest player here. You're coming off as cocky when you're yelling at the people in the Town block and accusing them of...not leading well? Because they don't want people to mass claim and you think they already know the investigation result? You're getting weirder and Scummier. If you're truly a Town PR, why would you press the town block for public sharing of info like this when you're not privy to all that they know? If you're Town I'll eat my licorice hat. But as I said earlier, if the block truly has this all solved, then it doesn't matter if the scum know the PRs. We outnumber them and can keep it that way. I was primarily calling for a mass claim since the block doesn't seem to be telling us anything other than "we know who the scum are" but not telling us! They don't have it all solved. You're Scummy, Paul is the definition of Scummy. The very basis of your mass claim is that you and Paul are fully trusted and you aren't. So, a mass claim doesn't work. And what gives you any indication that the Town block "has it all solved"? Don't try to bully information out of them. It's Scummier than everything else you've done.
Piratedave84 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 What the hell? He said we should not mass claim so the scum can't figure out who's town. Then changed it to PR after he was called out. I just pointed it out. Paul, you've gone from hiding from direct accusation to screaming at the people who helped you yesterday, all while being the Scummiest player here. You're coming off as cocky when you're yelling at the people in the Town block and accusing them of...not leading well? Because they don't want people to mass claim and you think they already know the investigation result? You're getting weirder and Scummier. If you're truly a Town PR, why would you press the town block for public sharing of info like this when you're not privy to all that they know? If you're Town I'll eat my licorice hat. YUM! Licorice! I'm pressing them because they are not leading us, they are delaying us. We are loosing time and energy scrutinizing people who may be confirmed. We are on the brink of loosing this and we HAVE to lynch scum today. They don't have it all solved. You're Scummy, Paul is the definition of Scummy. The very basis of your mass claim is that you and Paul are fully trusted and you aren't. So, a mass claim doesn't work. And what gives you any indication that the Town block "has it all solved"? Don't try to bully information out of them. It's Scummier than everything else you've done. Well ... if they don't have it solved they sure are making it seem like they do ... Glad we're all still alive. Sucks that Rip was town, however this greatly narrows down the field of possible scum, Currently awaiting investigation results, and IMO there's a 75% chance we caught scum with them. Listen to me. Everyone has claimed their roles to me. There's no need to massclaim. I have all the information, and I'm eagerly awaiting the investigation result. Once I have that, we'll see what will happen next. And how do you know the number of Scum? Calm down Paul. I told you to choose who you wanted to watch because I don't want to know. Minga's technically vanilla. She shouldn't be knowing what you're going to do every night. Besides, she was taking precautions in case Clementine was scum and had the ability to intercept your action. And for the last time, Minga has not received the result of last night's investigation yet. Stop accusing her of stalling. No, Minga means that everyone alive in the game right now at this very minute has claimed their role to her, whether it be vanilla or PR. And yet after all this what do we have to go on? LEAD US
Hinckley Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 My logic was that I could confirm a claim if someone was to target me (i.e. the tracker, blocker, or cop). I was looking to find new 'friends' seeing that the town block is IMO not doing much so I thought the cop would target me or the blocker. You know the tracker is dead, you know Minga has the investigator claiming to her. With the margin this narrow, a Town watcher doesn't look for "friends" like it's Day One and a Town block needs to form. With a razor thin margin, you look for a killer and you can't find a killer...or a blocker!!!!...watching yourself. He said we should not mass claim so the scum can't figure out who's town. Then changed it to PR after he was called out. I just pointed it out. So...you're saying he's a liar? YUM! Licorice! Too bad I won't get to eat it... I'm pressing them because they are not leading us, they are delaying us. We are loosing time and energy scrutinizing people who may be confirmed. Losing is spelled with one "o". And you're pressing them publicly? When you have a PM with them? Can you be any Scummier? We are on the brink of loosing this and we HAVE to lynch scum today. Fine then. Let's lynch you! Well ... if they don't have it solved they sure are making it seem like they do ... Can you quote that for me? And yet after all this what do we have to go on? LEAD US Maybe if you had given them something to work with by watching...anyone but yourself...which makes no logical Town sense. None. Lead you? You don't have your own game? If they say wait...wait. That's the way they're leading right now. What do you want them to do? Make shit up so you feel led? Pretend to throw a ball so you chase it and spend an hour looking for it?
Piratedave84 Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 You know the tracker is dead, you know Minga has the investigator claiming to her. With the margin this narrow, a Town watcher doesn't look for "friends" like it's Day One and a Town block needs to form. With a razor thin margin, you look for a killer and you can't find a killer...or a blocker!!!!...watching yourself. yes they do when they don't have any open communication with the block So...you're saying he's a liar? he essentially called 4 of 2 a noob for calling him out on something he did Losing is spelled with one "o". And you're pressing them publicly? When you have a PM with them? Can you be any Scummier? loooooooooosing What PM? oh yes the one where they don't answer, or coordinate, or talk, or ... yeah ... Fine then. Let's lynch you! and lose ... no, I don't think so Can you quote that for me? I included 4-5 quotes which all said they had things locked down Maybe if you had given them something to work with by watching...anyone but yourself...which makes no logical Town sense. None. Lead you? You don't have your own game? If they say wait...wait. That's the way they're leading right now. What do you want them to do? Make shit up so you feel led? Pretend to throw a ball so you chase it and spend an hour looking for it? Could they not start to look into claims? yes Could they scrutinize people with contradicting claims? yes Could they tell us ANYTHING? yes
Dragonfire Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 I'm happy to announce that we have caught Scum! Diamond Dodd (CallMePie) is a Scummy Scum!
Lind Whisperer Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 I'm happy to announce that we have caught Scum! Diamond Dodd (CallMePie) is a Scummy Scum! About. Blooming. Time.
mostlytechnic Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Awesome! Thanks for sharing Minga! And Seamus, Paul was saying basically everything I would have if I was around. (no, I'm not defending him since I don't know if he's town or scum... just he and I happen to be thinking similarly on this). The biggest this was where you questioned him saying the block had it solved. He quoted over and over where Minga was indicating that. that's the reason I was suggesting a mass claim. IF THEY HAVE IT ALL SOLVED, THEN THERE'S NO REASON TO KEEP SECRETS ANYMORE. If that's not the case, then we need them to say so.
CMP Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 I'm happy to announce that we have caught Scum! Diamond Dodd (CallMePie) is a Scummy Scum! This is the most ineffective town block I've ever seen. I don't know whether to congratulate the scum or just sigh over what we could've been. I figured there weren't enough scum here to have a framer, but evidently I've been mistaken. That, or the investigator is willing to falsify results to get one more townie death to win the game. They can't be far off now.
mostlytechnic Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 And seriously, this is so blatant I've gotta bring it up again. Seamus, slow down and read what people are saying before getting on our cases. You asked Paul to quote where the block said they had it all solved, and HE HAD DONE EXACTLY THAT RIGHT BELOW THE SENTENCE OF HIS THAT YOU QUOTED. This is the most ineffective town block I've ever seen. I don't know whether to congratulate the scum or just sigh over what we could've been. I figured there weren't enough scum here to have a framer, but evidently I've been mistaken. That, or the investigator is willing to falsify results to get one more townie death to win the game. They can't be far off now. Wow, solid defense there Pretty sure that's exactly what every caught scum ever has said. Well, except for Ragnarok where they confessed and asked for traitors... but that was just weird.
CMP Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Wow, solid defense there Pretty sure that's exactly what every caught scum ever has said. Well, except for Ragnarok where they confessed and asked for traitors... but that was just weird. What solid defense do you expect? I told Minga I was vanilla when she asked. I can't pull a night action out of my ass to counter an investigation result. All I can give you are my best guesses why I'm being investigated as scum.
Ranger of the Forest Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 I'm happy to announce that we have caught Scum! Diamond Dodd (CallMePie) is a Scummy Scum! Well this simplifies things I honestly still think Bock is scum. Especially with the way things drifted over to Rip, who we now know is town, so quickly. Even though we already have our lynch for today, I feel we shouldn’t forget how scummy everyone who piled onto that bandwagon looked.
Hinckley Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Diamond, the only person I never suspected. Interesting that he was echoing Paul and 4 of 2. And that Paul fishes for the investigator in private. This is the most ineffective town block I've ever seen. I don't know whether to congratulate the scum or just sigh over what we could've been. I figured there weren't enough scum here to have a framer, but evidently I've been mistaken. That, or the investigator is willing to falsify results to get one more townie death to win the game. They can't be far off now. You were a highly unlikely investigation target and therefore a highly unlikely framing target.
Lind Whisperer Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Diamond, the only person I never suspected. Actually, I kind of suspected him. His posts felt just in that area, although I never had any good reason to call him on it.
CMP Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Interesting that he was echoing Paul and 4 of 2. Was I? Gross... I still don't think there's a framer. The chances of this investigator being scum seem more likely, of the two. Not that it seems to matter, we're probably at lynch or lose here anyway, and, well. I guess we're going for lose. Actually, I kind of suspected him. Oh, I'm sure. If you have suspicions there's never any reason to hold them back.
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