[COR ML] One boat, two boats, three boats...

[Darnok]

The WTC Shipyards had been hard at work over the last weeks. Two squadrons of the newest addition to the WTC fleet were now finished and had just returned from their first mission. The harbour had been extended to give them a proper place to dock:

 

These small rowboats are the first examples of the "Agnes Class": small, annoying to handle, but ideal for pestering the enemy. Each is armed with a carronade and manned by two WTC Marines. In small numbers they might be nothing more but a nuisance for bigger ships - but in large numbers they can become a problem even for full-grown warships!

 

None of that mattered for now though, since only fruits and other plants had been transported to Mesabi Landing. No fights today, which might annoy some of the WTC more than others:

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While most of the boats where already back and being unloaded...

 

... one straggler arrived just now.

 

Others were either busy transporting the goods into the city, or took a break from the hard work.

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And while the WTC would never share its docks with dirty foreigners, they where kind enough to let them use a nearby beach for loading and unloading similarly small ships (for a small share of 50% of course). The location even had a connection to the fine street network of Mesabi Landing. Oh, the WTC is benevolent indeed!

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Behind the pier a clever salesman had set up a store for rum - an instant gold mine with the WTC Marines nearby all the time. It also proved once and for all that even the cats in Mesabi Landing were alcoholics:

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And maybe, just maybe, we also witness a future expansion to the WTC fleet? The crab might know...

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Licensed as a large commerce property for Mesabi Landing.

 

You might notice that the MOC is 64x64 studs in size, rather than the "necessary" 48x48 studs. I did this for two reasons.

First of all I really needed the room for the ten rowboats and a meaningful pier/harbour scene. Remove the boats from the scenes above and the MOC is still 100% fine as a large commerce property though (the ten boats fit pretty perfectly on the "open water areas", which make up about 32x32 studs of the whole MOC).

Secondly I also want to use this to license all the ten boats (as class 0 obviously). There are ten individual ship builds, and they are all distinguishable from each other. Note the round 1x1 plates below the flag poles at the front: they go from 0 to 4, thus marking each boat of both squadrons.

 

As always, C&C are appreciated.

 

P.S. for the gamemasters: I licensed the ships as class 0 with identical stats and very similar names:

• They all start with "WTC Agnes" indicating fleet and class (see above).
• The five ships of the squadron with yellow flags on their MOCs go by "WTC Agnes Y1" to "WTC Agnes Y5" indicating yellow and the respective ship number.
• Same for the "blue ones" with "B" instead of "Y", indicating blue of course.

 

 

Edited May 30, 2018 by Drunknok

[LM71Blackbird]

Nice and busy looking pier you've got there! Very good looking addition to the WTC's fleet!

[Bregir]

@Drunknok - really nice harbour scene. I like both the patch of beach, with its nice flowing landscape, and the busy port. The ramp up to the pier is a really nice touch.

However, the court feels that the rowboats do not current represent "sufficient effort" per boat to each be licensed on their own, as they are basically a prefab with the same few implements. We do not want a licensing race about who can drive up the price of prefab boats on Bricklink the most! ;)

As this is simply due to a different interpretation of the rules than the official one, we have decided to let them sail this MRCA provided that you post an individual picture of each, with something (significantly) different going on for each boat. It could be cargo and crews, landscaping/waterscaping around each boat, or different activities going on. You have until the end of the coming weekend to provide this.

An alternative could be not to license the land build, and instead use that as the "sufficient effort" to justify licensing the boats.

Let us know if this leads to any questions.

[Darnok]

4 hours ago, Bregir said:

However, the court feels that the rowboats do not current represent "sufficient effort" per boat to each be licensed on their own, as they are basically a prefab with the same few implements.

Maybe you - as in "the makers of the game", not you specifically! - should not have chosen a prefab boat as the prime example for class 0 then. I did just the same, so do not agree with that suddenly being an issue.

 

4 hours ago, Bregir said:

We do not want a licensing race about who can drive up the price of prefab boats on Bricklink the most!

While I do appreciate the effort some people put into brickbuilt ships even for rowboats - @Legostone posted some fine examples just hours ago - it is nothing I want to do for something like the class 0. I think the prefabs look better than anything one can do with bricks at that size. It is simply not worth the effort in my opinion.

And I do not see how this is different than any other ship in terms of investment: the bricks needed for bigger ships are not free either. I can not afford the bricks I would need for anything beyond a class 5 at the moment - does that mean I should complain about people who can? Of course not. Would you call that "we do ot want a race to drive up brick prices on Brick Link"? Of course not. So why in this case? Even said in jest, this is completely unnecessary...

 

4 hours ago, Bregir said:

As this is simply due to a different interpretation of the rules than the official one, we have decided to let them sail this MRCA provided that you post an individual picture of each, with something (significantly) different going on for each boat. It could be cargo and crews, landscaping/waterscaping around each boat, or different activities going on. You have until the end of the coming weekend to provide this.

Will do.

 

4 hours ago, Bregir said:

An alternative could be not to license the land build, and instead use that as the "sufficient effort" to justify licensing the boats.

The land property is already liensed.

 

4 hours ago, Bregir said:

Let us know if this leads to any questions.

See above.

[Bregir]

7 minutes ago, Drunknok said:

Maybe you - as in "the makers of the game", not you specifically! - should not have chosen a prefab boat as the prime example for class 0 then. I did just the same, so do not agree with that suddenly being an issue.

I will see about including a note to this effect, as it is probably not clear. However, the class 0 example specifically includes both a "waterscape", crew, and activity around the boat, i.e. what we are asking from you (and anyone else using prefabs). It is not the prefab that justifies licensing, but the total effort, in this case a vignette.

10 minutes ago, Drunknok said:

I think the prefabs look better than anything one can do with bricks at that size. It is simply not worth the effort in my opinion.

To be clear: Anyone is welcome to use prefabs. However, as with all other builds in BoBS, the total building effort per license has to be "sufficient" to justify licensing.

16 minutes ago, Drunknok said:

The land property is already liensed.

If you prefer, I am sure this can be changed. Up to you.

[Darnok]

1 minute ago, Bregir said:

If you prefer, I am sure this can be changed. Up to you.

Why would you think so? I think my reply was perfectly clear.

As it seems to be necessary, again: I will provide "an individual picture of each, with something (significantly) different going on for each boat [...] until the end of the coming weekend".

[Bregir]

7 minutes ago, Drunknok said:

Why would you think so?

I do not presume to guess your wishes. I just wanted to make sure that you knew this was an option regardless of whether the build had already been licensed. I.e. I was trying to be helpful.

8 minutes ago, Drunknok said:

I will provide

Super.

[Darnok]

1 minute ago, Bregir said:

I was trying to be helpful.

You are. I consider both given options to be fair and reasonable, which I appreciate.

 

Kind of off topic, but not much: if I do a build to increase my ship level that also has the required size to be licensed as a land property... is that build one or the other, or can it be both? Thanks in advance.

[Bregir]

4 minutes ago, Drunknok said:

Kind of off topic, but not much: if I do a build to increase my ship level that also has the required size to be licensed as a land property... is that build one or the other, or can it be both? Thanks in advance.

As long as the subject matter covers both, it can be both. (I.e. it has to both qualify as a licensable property (footprint and effort) and as a shiplimit build (mainly story))

[Captain Braunsfeld]

Great! 

I like that bathtub pirate (I have used a similar character for some time, though he was more steam-punky).

[Darnok]

On 31.5.2018 at 9:00 AM, Bregir said:

As this is simply due to a different interpretation of the rules than the official one, we have decided to let them sail this MRCA provided that you post an individual picture of each, with something (significantly) different going on for each boat. It could be cargo and crews, landscaping/waterscaping around each boat, or different activities going on. You have until the end of the coming weekend to provide this.

Just to double check: this has been done over here. I consider this issue settled.