Unpopular Opinions about LEGO

[Yperio_Bricks]

4 minutes ago, MAB said:

No we don't. LEGO customers pay for them. If you don't buy anything from LEGO then you don't pay for them. 

Of course i was assuming that we are all Lego customers on this Lego forum. Should be true for the vast majority, no?

[MAB]

6 minutes ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

Of course i was assuming that we are all Lego customers on this Lego forum. Should be true for the vast majority, no?

LEGO fans, but not necessarily LEGO customers. Most of my new LEGO purchases do not come from LEGO. There are many other retailers that have better incentives than LEGO for the same products. I only really buy exclusives from LEGO. 

[Yperio_Bricks]

I never bought a single set from Lego directly. That does not mean that i don't have to pay few cents for GWPs with every Lego set i buy. But It is less about the cents but more about the whole circus around GWPs.

But even i got two GWPs last time when i was ordering parts at PAB online. I was unaware of those though.

[BrickBob Studpants]

40 minutes ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

Of course we pay for GWPs indirectly via higher prices. But it is more like 50 cent per set or less Or do the designers work for free on these gifts? Do the logistics companies work for free when they ship the gifts?

Yeah, but that‘s a bit of a moot point. The same logic applies to catalogues, posters,  flyers, cardboard cutouts and other promotional stuff too. Everything any company on Earth does costs them money (unless they exploit workers), and us customers pay for it  If you extend that thought, do true gifts exist at all then?  Because someone somewhere paid something for it, which the recipient indirectly foots the bill for in the end

[Yperio_Bricks]

Just now, BrickBob Studpants said:

Yeah, but that‘s a bit of a moot point. The same logic applies to catalogues, posters,  flyers, cardboard cutouts and other promotional stuff too. Everything any company on Earth does costs them money (unless they exploit workers), and us customers pay for it  If you extend that thought, do true gifts exist at all then?  Because someone somewhere paid something for it, which the recipient indirectly foots the bill for in the end

You are right! So i will not get started about advertising then 

[MAB]

1 hour ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

I never bought a single set from Lego directly. That does not mean that i don't have to pay few cents for GWPs with every Lego set i buy. But It is less about the cents but more about the whole circus around GWPs.

But even i got two GWPs last time when i was ordering parts at PAB online. I was unaware of those though.

You might as well say you are paying for the sets that they send out for review to fan media sites, toilet paper for their headquarters and other buildings, parking spaces for their factory employees, etc.

If they didn't do GWP, I doubt the RRPs for regular retail sets would drop at all.

Edited August 29, 2023 by MAB

[Yperio_Bricks]

4 minutes ago, MAB said:

You might as well say you are paying for the sets that they send out for review to fan media sites, toilet paper for their headquarters and other buildings, parking spaces for their factory employees, etc.

If they didn't do GWP, I doubt the RRPs for regular retail sets would drop at all.

Lol yes, the free copies of the Hulkbuster, Eifel Tower and Football Table of which influencers then have to tell us that they are great sets. Some of these influencers will never finish building the Eifel Tower while others will jet to Paris for an event where they awkwardly play with those Football Tables lmao. And it wouldn't surprise me if the toilet paper at the Lego HQ is of fine gold-embroided Brocade

[BrickBob Studpants]

10 hours ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

Lol yes, the free copies of the Hulkbuster, Eifel Tower and Football Table of which influencers then have to tell us that they are great sets. 

Actually, they don’t. Plenty of negative or at least critical reviews by LAN members are out there. They’re not hard to find

[Lion King]

I don’t know where to post so I decided to do it here…

I really love Modular Building Collection. But I think it’s best that TLG shou start focusing on time periods beyond 1960s, like 1970s - 2020s. 

I mean, you know, modern buildings aare tied to the past… Like, electrical interactive billboards in front of hotel or business building. Or modern computers in an old building? Or at least a much modern archiecture for old buildings that we (me as a new collector) never got Fire Brigade or Town Hall. For example, Fire Bridage should be remade with 2020s style.  I just don’t care about City sets being “added” to Modular Building sets, like fire truck or electirc car…

i just think modern time periods would be great for Modular Building but I don’t know if my opinion is actually unpopular. 

[Feuer Zug]

I'd like the Modular Building Collection to have a wider variety of buildings. We've got considerable restaurants and entertainment venues. A clinic/hospital or a school would be a welcome addition. As long as they stay away from the Brutalist architectural style, we should be fine.

[Lego Tom]

On 9/5/2023 at 8:46 AM, Feuer Zug said:

I'd like the Modular Building Collection to have a wider variety of buildings. We've got considerable restaurants and entertainment venues. A clinic/hospital or a school would be a welcome addition. As long as they stay away from the Brutalist architectural style, we should be fine.

And of course in keeping with today's tends, we need a medical marijuana dispensary.

Edited September 6, 2023 by Lego Tom

[LegendaryArticuno]

I'm just amazed how well designed the Marvel CMFs are but somehow the actual Marvel sets are beyond bad.

[SpacePolice89]

12 hours ago, Lego Tom said:

And of course in keeping with today's tends, we need a medical marijuana dispensary.

Lego does not allow drugs or drug use in their products.

[MAB]

50 minutes ago, SpacePolice89 said:

Lego does not allow drugs or drug use in their products.

So what is in the syringe? 

[neithan]

4 hours ago, MAB said:

So what is in the syringe? 

 

Liquid Happiness.

[MAB]

31 minutes ago, neithan said:

 

Liquid Happiness.

So drugs!

[Murdoch17]

7 hours ago, MAB said:

So drugs!

I can't believe you don't see the difference between medical professionals giving out prescribed medication and John Doe self-dosing on street drugs!

(EDITED to change a word.)

Edited September 7, 2023 by Murdoch17

[Aanchir]

In any case, it does sort of surprise me we've never seen a pharmacy in a set, especially since pharmacies so often tend to carry "convenience store/general store" type goods in addition to medications and other medical products.

I suppose part of the issue is that they wouldn't offer contents and play features as varied and interesting to kids as the sort of businesses that show up most often in LEGO sets. A restaurant/cafe can have kitchen appliances, different ingredients, drink machines, dining tables, etc. A convenience store can be integrated with a larger service station, and can potentially also sell similar stuff to a restaurant/cafe (e.g. pizza, hot dogs, coffee, slushies, popsicles, etc). A bike/ski/surf shop offers products that can be used for action play outside the shop itself, and in some cases can even have a dedicated space for repairs in addition to sales/rentals. Banks usually tend to show up as the target of bank robberies, which obviously adds loads of potential for action play.

By comparison, a pharmacy interior mostly consists of a bunch of identical shelves stocked with miscellaneous boxes and bottles, and most of those probably wouldn't even be printed with any specifics about their contents, since you'd have to stock a whole store's worth of them! It's sort of the same reason why I imagine it took so long to a see a record store in sets, and why we never got a video store in sets (though those are a less common thing in real life anymore than they were when I was a kid). Identical shelving units full opf near-identical products don't tend to be all that fun to build OR to play with.

That said, I could imagine a small pharmacy being a small secondary business in a Modular Buildings Collection or Ninjago City set in the future, especially if they include other contents that would tie in with it to add further play/storytelling/building potential — such as a clinic/doctor's office, or a florist shop and a shopper with spring allergies. After all, as a small part of a larger set like that, you wouldn't need to fill as much floor space, or to work as many points of interest into the pharmacy on its own.

[MAB]

9 hours ago, Murdoch17 said:

I can't believe you don't see the difference between medical professionals giving out prescribed medication and John Doe self-dosing on street drugs!

(EDITED to change a word.)

I do. The statement I responded to was "Lego does not allow drugs or drug use in their products." There was no mention of street or illegal in that statement. They do depict drugs in certain circumstances,  just like they depict alcohol and modern guns when it suits them.

[Feuer Zug]

18 hours ago, Aanchir said:

In any case, it does sort of surprise me we've never seen a pharmacy in a set, especially since pharmacies so often tend to carry "convenience store/general store" type goods in addition to medications and other medical products.

That said, I could imagine a small pharmacy being a small secondary business in a Modular Buildings Collection or Ninjago City set in the future, especially if they include other contents that would tie in with it to add further play/storytelling/building potential — such as a clinic/doctor's office, or a florist shop and a shopper with spring allergies. After all, as a small part of a larger set like that, you wouldn't need to fill as much floor space, or to work as many points of interest into the pharmacy on its own.

Most pharmacies in Europe are far different. They have a few things available on the shelves, but most of the medicines are held in the back. Given their limited customer area, the smaller secondary business option to another modular would be quite easy to create.

[Peppermint_M]

Not to mention, most kids do not enjoy a visit to the pharmacy! It is a place you have to go when you are poorly, or have some less critical hurts (In the UK at least, for the most minor ailments the Pharmacist can prescribe or advise products. Think Athletes Foot, very early Conjunctivitis, those horrible little mouth ulcers etc) My childhood memories of them include going to get earache medicine, "over the counter" medicated eyedrops and child-safe doses of paracetamol that I then had to have!! Not appealing play, especially when the hospital/ambulance sets and the Vet sets offer that kind of medical play.

[The Island Chronicles]

On 9/7/2023 at 4:17 PM, Aanchir said:

In any case, it does sort of surprise me we've never seen a pharmacy in a set, especially since pharmacies so often tend to carry "convenience store/general store" type goods in addition to medications and other medical products.

I suppose part of the issue is that they wouldn't offer contents and play features as varied and interesting to kids as the sort of businesses that show up most often in LEGO sets. A restaurant/cafe can have kitchen appliances, different ingredients, drink machines, dining tables, etc. A convenience store can be integrated with a larger service station, and can potentially also sell similar stuff to a restaurant/cafe (e.g. pizza, hot dogs, coffee, slushies, popsicles, etc). A bike/ski/surf shop offers products that can be used for action play outside the shop itself, and in some cases can even have a dedicated space for repairs in addition to sales/rentals. Banks usually tend to show up as the target of bank robberies, which obviously adds loads of potential for action play.

By comparison, a pharmacy interior mostly consists of a bunch of identical shelves stocked with miscellaneous boxes and bottles, and most of those probably wouldn't even be printed with any specifics about their contents, since you'd have to stock a whole store's worth of them! It's sort of the same reason why I imagine it took so long to a see a record store in sets, and why we never got a video store in sets (though those are a less common thing in real life anymore than they were when I was a kid). Identical shelving units full opf near-identical products don't tend to be all that fun to build OR to play with.

That said, I could imagine a small pharmacy being a small secondary business in a Modular Buildings Collection or Ninjago City set in the future, especially if they include other contents that would tie in with it to add further play/storytelling/building potential — such as a clinic/doctor's office, or a florist shop and a shopper with spring allergies. After all, as a small part of a larger set like that, you wouldn't need to fill as much floor space, or to work as many points of interest into the pharmacy on its own.

Yeah! I was kinda hoping with how big the 2022 Hospital set was, I would at least see a pharmacy area in that set. They've got pharmacies in hospitals too. I know because I have worked at a hospital before. 

[SpacePolice89]

On 9/8/2023 at 7:43 AM, MAB said:

I do. The statement I responded to was "Lego does not allow drugs or drug use in their products." There was no mention of street or illegal in that statement. They do depict drugs in certain circumstances,  just like they depict alcohol and modern guns when it suits them.

I meant illegal drugs, I thought the context made that clear so I didn't specifically state that

[Horation]

On 9/8/2023 at 12:43 AM, MAB said:

I do. The statement I responded to was "Lego does not allow drugs or drug use in their products." There was no mention of street or illegal in that statement. They do depict drugs in certain circumstances,  just like they depict alcohol and modern guns when it suits them.

Order, order, the court asks all lawyers to remember that this isn't a court of law and that there is no court, please take all statements within the context of the message instead of literally in some sort of weird practice for your LSAT, they actually don't depict any drug, just occasionally a syringe or the likes (which could contain anything from a saline water solution to blood samples to maybe drugs, but it is not made clear so...). 

In other words, in the case of MAB vs SpacePolice89, the court rules 5-4 (with Thomas, Alito, Roberts and Barrett dissenting) that TLG did not depict any drugs directly and at most merely implied their existence, as such the court has decided to do what that one Shakespeare play suggested : Kill all the lawyers! 

[Lion King]

5 minutes ago, Horation said:

Order, order, the court asks all lawyers to remember that this isn't a court of law and that there is no court, please take all statements within the context of the message instead of literally in some sort of weird practice for your LSAT, they actually don't depict any drug, just occasionally a syringe or the likes (which could contain anything from a saline water solution to blood samples to maybe drugs, but it is not made clear so...). 

In other words, in the case of MAB vs SpacePolice89, the court rules 5-4 (with Thomas, Alito, Roberts and Barrett dissenting) that TLG did not depict any drugs directly and at most merely implied their existence, as such the court has decided to do what that one Shakespeare play suggested : Kill all the lawyers! 

Court dismissed…