Marvel Superheroes 2023 - Rumors & Discussion

[Legocentrico]

15 minutes ago, Buckethead said:

I heard rumors the new Daredevil show may be TV-MA, meaning we might not get sets of figures from the series, but considering Daredevil will be in Spider-Man: Freshman Year, what are the odds we still get him if/when Lego makes sets for Freshman Year?

Marvel cmf series 3?

[Buckethead]

18 minutes ago, Legocentrico said:

Marvel cmf series 3?

Maybe. Daredevil's in a weird scenario where much of his association is with Netflix and its mature rating. It may continue to have a mature rating in his own series, but he's also popping up in other PG-13 or TV-14 projects like She-Hulk. I'm inclined to believe he will be made, but could his own show's rating affect his role in other projects like Spider-Man?

[Mandalorianknight]

36 minutes ago, Borex said:

Lego, give this man a job! You only forgot shadowcat with lockheed (and of course there are so much more characters)

Aw man, I actually did forget shadowcat (though I was just gonna use Kitty Pryde for the name), she was gonna be in the Blackbird before I shuffled some of the figs around and she got lost.

As for the first part, you said the exact same thing as others did last year when I made a DC heroes list in that thread. Maybe I'll do MOCS for it like I did for that.

13 minutes ago, Buckethead said:

Maybe. Daredevil's in a weird scenario where much of his association is with Netflix and its mature rating. It may continue to have a mature rating in his own series, but he's also popping up in other PG-13 or TV-14 projects like She-Hulk. I'm inclined to believe he will be made, but could his own show's rating affect his role in other projects like Spider-Man?

I feel like for Daredevil, it's more of a Wolveriene situation where his best stuff is mature, but he's known outside of it and he's not egregious. I'd guess the reason we don't get deadpool is the films made him known for being extremely vulgar and sexually explicit rather than simply violent like Daredevil, which is the difference. (which may also explain why daredevil is one of my favorite shows/characters, whereas deadpool is one of my least favorite. Not to start another war but I always felt daredevil's maturity was to show a real world and develop the characters, whereas deadpool was dumb shock humor of "haha he said naughty words")

[Buckethead]

8 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I feel like for Daredevil, it's more of a Wolveriene situation where his best stuff is mature, but he's known outside of it and he's not egregious. I'd guess the reason we don't get deadpool is the films made him known for being extremely vulgar and sexually explicit rather than simply violent like Daredevil, which is the difference.

I feel similarly that he'll likely be perceived like Wolverine is. My main concern comes with the CMF. Given his popularity, the excitement fans had for his appearance in She-Hulk, and his upcoming solo series, I would have thought he'd be in the CMF. We don't know for sure why he was excluded, but the pessimist in me wonders if his Netflix reputation affected his inclusion (hopefully not, and hopefully they excluded him simply because there wasn't room or they're reserving him for a future set).

Edited July 23, 2023 by Buckethead

[wesker]

Spider-Man: Freshman Year sounds like such a mess at this point. Its delayed, its no longer set in the MCU, its second season is cancelled, its animation team is let go... Compared to X-Men '97 its production seems like a real train wreck.

At this stage I'll be happy just to have a traditional comic based Spider-Man set released next year with Daredevil, Kingpin and Elektra thrown in it.

[hikouki]

I don't collect those Hasbro figures, but found this article mentioning the X-men 97 team up pack:

https://screenrant.com/marvel-legends-figures-sdcc-2023-reveals/

Storm and Wolverine's looks are exactly the same as the upcoming Lego CMF ones. I hope this means we will get both Rogue and Gambit in some upcoming 2024 sets.

[wesker]

Rogue and Gambit are a must! Hopefully we can at least complete the original team next year with Jean Grey and Jubilee as well. At least we know Cyclops and Xavier should be covered if the X-Mansion goes ahead.

Hopefully they use the new Bo-Katan piece on Mystique if her X-Mansion minifigure ends up being based on the animated version.

[Legocentrico]

7 ore fa, Buckethead ha detto:

Non sappiamo con certezza perché sia stato escluso, ma il pessimista in me si chiede se la sua reputazione Netflix abbia influenzato la sua inclusione (si

As far as we know, Lego could have been unaware of his presence, perhaps he was kept hidden by the production, perhaps it was a last minute choice to insert him, or they simply did not take him into consideration because he is not the protagonist and appears only at the end… I still think that if there is a third series cmf could easily be inserted

[THELEGOBATMAN]

33 minutes ago, Legocentrico said:

As far as we know, Lego could have been unaware of his presence, perhaps he was kept hidden by the production, perhaps it was a last minute choice to insert him, or they simply did not take him into consideration because he is not the protagonist and appears only at the end… I still think that if there is a third series cmf could easily be inserted

Well to be fair She-Hulk came out nearly a year ago, and they managed to exchange Kang for Goliath very recently.

They probably could've included Daredevil, but maybe they have other plans for him. (It would be a bummer if we never got his yellow suit tho.)

[Legocentrico]

25 minuti fa, THELEGOBATMAN disse:

Beh, ad essere onesti She-Hulk è uscito quasi un anno fa, e sono riusciti a scambiare Kang con Golia molto di recente.

Probabilmente avrebbero potuto includere Daredevil, ma forse hanno altri piani per lui. (Sarebbe un peccato se non avessimo mai il suo vestito giallo però.)

Someone hinted at the possibility that Lego always has some minifigure ready in case of problems (maybe Brick Clicker?), as in the case of Kang. Which is very different from designing a new minifigure. Anyway, I was just speculating. 
 

Anything can be, so probably we will never know the truth

Edited July 24, 2023 by Legocentrico

[PGBQW]

28 minutes ago, Legocentrico said:

Someone hinted at the possibility that Lego always has some minifigure ready in case of problems (maybe Brick Clicker?), as in the case of Kang

Was that actually true or just speculation? Because right after seeing the pictures everyone agreed someone must've mistaken the minifigs

[Legocentrico]

7 minuti fa, PGBQW ha detto:

Era davvero vero o solo speculazione? Perché subito dopo aver visto le foto tutti erano d'accordo che qualcuno deve aver scambiato le minifigs

All who? No leaker has supported or confirmed this thesis, so we are always in the field of speculation

[BrickBob Studpants]

I highly doubt they design backup minifigs in case one has to be removed from the roster. How likely is it that an actor goes completely ballistic? Granted, it happened twice recently, but it‘s still not something I would expect them to have contingency plans for

To me, it‘s far more likely somebody confused Kang with Goliath. The Ant-Man accessory and the blue visor can‘t be coincidences, and Kang wouldn‘t have made such sense in an otherwise D+ laser-focussed series anyway.

[Legocentrico]

12 minuti fa, BrickBob Studpants ha detto:

Per me, è molto più probabile che qualcuno abbia confuso Kang con Golia. L'accessorio Ant-Man e la visiera blu non possono essere coincidenze, e Kang non avrebbe comunque avuto tanto senso in una serie altrimenti focalizzata sul laser D+.

BC confirmed double head and new helmet, I doubt Goliath has a blue double head.. maybe he doesn't even have a new helmet. All the leakers have listed Kang, how do you confuse Kang who is green and purple with a white/grey and blue minifigure? And in any case this does not affect the Daredevil speech…

[BrickBob Studpants]

24 minutes ago, Legocentrico said:

BC confirmed double head and new helmet, I doubt Goliath has a blue double head.. maybe he doesn't even have a new helmet.

True, but there‘s also a big issue with the timeframe. Thanks to the Potter S2 leak in 2020, we know that CMF series are finalised very early on. The finalised package design of that series already leaked in the middle of March. Assuming the Marvel series was also finished by March, I highly doubt they had enough time to replace a minifig at that point

[Legocentrico]

21 minuti fa, BrickBob Studpants ha detto:

Vero, ma c'è anche un grosso problema con i tempi. Grazie alla perdita di Potter S2 nel 2020, sappiamo che le serie CMF sono finalizzate molto presto. Il design del pacchetto finalizzato di quella serie è già trapelato a metà marzo. Supponendo che anche la serie Marvel fosse finita entro marzo, dubito fortemente che abbiano avuto abbastanza tempo per sostituire un minifig a quel punto

The Flash set was ready last year, we know the minifigures were in production, yet everything has been changed. Do you know how long it takes for a graphic designer to replace a minifigure on package design? maybe a second..

[BrickBob Studpants]

47 minutes ago, Legocentrico said:

The Flash set was ready last year, we know the minifigures were in production, yet everything has been changed. 

You say it, last year. Plenty of time to change production schedules. And I‘m still not sure whether that Flash torso was even real

48 minutes ago, Legocentrico said:

Do you know how long it takes for a graphic designer to replace a minifigure on package design? maybe a second..

This is not just about the package design, but the entire production process. 

[Legocentrico]

36 minuti fa, BrickBob Studpants ha detto:

Tu lo dici, l'anno scorso. Un sacco di tempo per cambiare i programmi di produzione. E non sono ancora sicuro che quel busto Flash fosse reale

Non si tratta solo della progettazione della confezione, ma dell'intero processo di produzione.

You said the cmfs are finalized very soon, so same thing a lot of time to change… the design process could have been more than 12 minifigures, and only 12 go to print. You mentioned the HP packet, that, like all graphic work, can be modified very quickly… I don't understand what's so difficult to understand. Of course it's all speculation but I don't see anything impossible. the only thing that seems impossible to me is that someone confused kang with that goliath minifigure... but in the end that too could be, there's no need to take it personally :-D

[Buckethead]

1 hour ago, Legocentrico said:

Of course it's all speculation but I don't see anything impossible. the only thing that seems impossible to me is that someone confused kang with that goliath minifigure... but in the end that too could be, there's no need to take it personally :-D

I'm not fully aware of Lego's routine for creating these minifigures, so it hypothetically could be that two figures were swapped. However, Promobricks initial description for Kang was "the blue version." At first I thought they meant his mask, but in retrospect, it's a fairly odd descriptor for Kang. Ant-Man 3 also introduced thousands of new variants of Kang, so someone may have seen the movie and assumed the figure they saw was one of those variants (especially if they saw an Ant-Man micro figure, helmet with blue visor, and Finn hair piece).

Not sure what the extra blue head could be for, but we do know the descriptions aren't fully accurate (i.e. Moon Knight's hood and Beast's hair). In preliminary images, some molds (including familiar molds) can still appear wonky, so it's possible someone confused the helmet for a new mold.

[BrickBob Studpants]

2 hours ago, Legocentrico said:

You said the cmfs are finalized very soon, so same thing a lot of time to change… the design process could have been more than 12 minifigures, and only 12 go to print. 

As I‘ve said, it‘s not just about the graphical design. There are huge logistics behind the production and the moulds, printing pads and so on need to be prepared too. From what we know, the production is not flexible enough to allow for a minifig to be swapped in this spontaneously.

And why would they fully design more than 12 minifigs? Sketches, sure, but the final roster must be decided pretty early on. Otherwise that‘s just a waste of resources.

The leakers being wrong is not necessarily the correct explanation as we can only speculate, however, it is the easiest one, applying Ockham‘s razor.

Also, don‘t get me wrong, I generally trust our leakers, but they have been wrong before. VERY wrong. Remember Peach‘s Castle and the Black Panther vehicle?

[Legocentrico]

1 ora fa, Buckethead disse:

Tuttavia, la descrizione iniziale di Promobricks per Kang era "la versione blu".

True, Promo's description was ambiguous, but B.Clicker went into a lot of detail… well, sometimes the preliminary images end up leaking, sooner or later. Maybe one day we will find out exactly what happened

55 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Also, don‘t get me wrong, I generally trust our leakers, but they have been wrong before. VERY wrong. Remember Peach‘s Castle and the Black Panther vehicle?

You're right, I don't rule out any possibility in fact.. But you have to admit that it's a huge coincidence that everyone was wrong about the only character that Lego and Disney would actually have reason to remove! Probably if he had been another character we would have had less doubts :-D

[BrickBob Studpants]

23 minutes ago, Legocentrico said:

But you have to admit that it's a huge coincidence that everyone was wrong about the only character that Lego and Disney would actually have reason to remove! 

True, but it would also be a pretty big coincidence that we‘re confused about two characters portrayed by African American actors with similar hairstyles that both have a helmet with a blue visor and an Ant-Man microfig as an accessory

Unless the prelim image leaks, my theory is that one or two leakers initially got it wrong and the rest was a game of telephone. Not every leaker is privy to leaked images, sometimes they have to rely on what their informants are telling them

[THELEGOBATMAN]

We knew too many details about Kang, it couldn't have been a mistake.

They definitely replaced him because of the controversy.

[Buckethead]

46 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

We knew too many details about Kang, it couldn't have been a mistake.

They definitely replaced him because of the controversy.

Before Brick Clicker, the only details we had were a “blue version” of Kang with a helmet, hair, and microfigure. The only new detail was a blue head, which Goliath could still have. Take away the Kang title and it sounds like Goliath. I don’t think we can say with a guarantee that he was or was not replaced.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

You cannot confuse Goliath with Kang.

They look completely different colour-wise, which is the first thing you look at when you get your information from low-quality prelims.