DC Superheroes 2023 - Rumors & Discussion

[RichardGoring]

You always have to wait for the full reveal, but it doesn't excite me, and certainly not for $450. The batmobile is the most exciting thing, but it's not a good as 40433, which you can piece together, minus the exclusive sticker for about $50.

The while things just feels a bit plain and boring. A lot of parts to make it into a box, with a gimmicky reveal that likely won't look great as the background is also pretty dark. I had so hoped for it being like a geode, with an organic/rocky/natural shell, with a proper cave inside.

The play features don't seem particularly clever or delightful. Not even an elevator down from Wayne manor.

It looks like a $200 set, and at that price would feel expensive. Very similar feeling to the Black Panther bust, where it feels like there is a disconnect between the mandated price point, what you can do to build up to that price point, and what the market wants. Currently disappointed, but hopefully that changes with the full reveal.

[NovaBricks]

I can't decide how voting with my wallet on this one will be taken by LEGO lol. On one hand I want to support the Batman theme and want a comic Arkham somewhere down the road, and on the other hand I don't want to spend $450 on a $200 Batcave and reinforce the notion that everything needs to be this big and expensive.
 

[psqidexslizer]

Just to take a break from all the negativity, I do like that the cave is about the same width as the Joker Manor back from TLBM. So, if you were to have both sets and were willing to get some extra pieces to do some modding, you could actually make a pretty cool Wayne Manor and Batcave display.

I’m tempted to wait for the Batcave to go on sale and then do this. Still undecided atm.

Edited May 15, 2023 by psqidexslizer

[Flawless Cowboy]

13 minutes ago, RichardGoring said:

You always have to wait for the full reveal, but it doesn't excite me, and certainly not for $450. The batmobile is the most exciting thing, but it's not a good as 40433, which you can piece together, minus the exclusive sticker for about $50.

The while things just feels a bit plain and boring. A lot of parts to make it into a box, with a gimmicky reveal that likely won't look great as the background is also pretty dark. I had so hoped for it being like a geode, with an organic/rocky/natural shell, with a proper cave inside.

The play features don't seem particularly clever or delightful. Not even an elevator down from Wayne manor.

It looks like a $200 set, and at that price would feel expensive. Very similar feeling to the Black Panther bust, where it feels like there is a disconnect between the mandated price point, what you can do to build up to that price point, and what the market wants. Currently disappointed, but hopefully that changes with the full reveal.

As an owner of 40433, the Batmobile pictured in the leak is far more accurate. 

[Legocentrico]

I was thinking that the plaque on top of the batmobile could fold down to accommodate the batwing… it is not advertised on the box because it is sold separately (as was the case with the hulkbuster) ps. I haven't read all the comments yet, if someone has already said so I apologize

[NXS7]

5 hours ago, PGBQW said:

Don't worry guys, we can spin the chair.

 

That's all I asked for, wouldn't bother spending £500 if I couldn't spin the Batchair

[Legocentrico]

4 hours ago, DaredevilFan said:

Sembra strano che non ci sia una piattaforma Batwing a meno che non si adatti al lato destro dove si trova il simbolo.

if the plate above the batmobile lowers, the batwing can land, it is also at the platform, so batman can reach it on foot :-)

Edited May 15, 2023 by Legocentrico

[RichardGoring]

15 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

As an owner of 40433, the Batmobile pictured in the leak is far more accurate. 

You're probably right, but based on the images, I'm not sure that I like the fins at the back as much, and it's really hard to capture those accurately in LEGO at this scale. I also take great delight in the flame spinning in 40433. I have 40433 too, and really love it, so there could be bias coming through there.

I suppose I should have said that the main draw to this set feels like the car, which is a $30-35 retail set, or something you can build from Bricklink parts for $50. The rest just doesn't appear to come close to offering $400 of value. The back wall concept suggests a solid $150-$200 playset. The cutout reveal front wall would be perfect in a microscale build for $50. I don't see the logic in trying to merge both of those ideas and scale them up to $450.

But again, it's important to wait for the full reveal as there could be more interesting stuff happening. Hopefully!

[Flawless Cowboy]

3 minutes ago, RichardGoring said:

You're probably right, but based on the images, I'm not sure that I like the fins at the back as much, and it's really hard to capture those accurately in LEGO at this scale. I also take great delight in the flame spinning in 40433. I have 40433 too, and really love it, so there could be bias coming through there.

I suppose I should have said that the main draw to this set feels like the car, which is a $30-35 retail set, or something you can build from Bricklink parts for $50. The rest just doesn't appear to come close to offering $400 of value. The back wall concept suggests a solid $150-$200 playset. The cutout reveal front wall would be perfect in a microscale build for $50. I don't see the logic in trying to merge both of those ideas and scale them up to $450.

But again, it's important to wait for the full reveal as there could be more interesting stuff happening. Hopefully!

It looks like the exhaust pipes are in black rather than they grey barrels on the GWP. Also the fins look a bit beefier which I prefer to the giant wing piece the GWP uses. But now I’m confused as to whether this Batmobile is actually part of the set or if it’s the standalone Batmobile releasing this summer combined with the bat cave. Missing from the box art is the rumored Batwing, as well. Very odd. 

[RichardGoring]

3 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

It looks like the exhaust pipes are in black rather than they grey barrels on the GWP. Also the fins look a bit beefier which I prefer to the giant wing piece the GWP uses. But now I’m confused as to whether this Batmobile is actually part of the set or if it’s the standalone Batmobile releasing this summer combined with the bat cave. Missing from the box art is the rumored Batwing, as well. Very odd. 

Ah yes, very true. I swapped all of those great parts out to black on mine, so I misremember the original set. Agreed, I didn't particularly like it, and wondered why they did it.

The car is on both the front and the back of the box, so has to be included. Batwing isn't, but as others have pointed out, there could be a platform that folds out for it, which would make sense.

[Flawless Cowboy]

6 minutes ago, RichardGoring said:

Ah yes, very true. I swapped all of those great parts out to black on mine, so I misremember the original set. Agreed, I didn't particularly like it, and wondered why they did it.

The car is on both the front and the back of the box, so has to be included. Batwing isn't, but as others have pointed out, there could be a platform that folds out for it, which would make sense.

Hm so perhaps the batwing is an accessory purchase then. $450 isn’t enough

[NoOneOfImportance]

12 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

That is... that is rough. It looks like a nice MOC someone made, but this does not feel like something that works as an official set at all.

This basically feels like superhero D2Cs of late as a whole (except the modulars). They are fine MOCs! BP, this, even the Hulkbuster, but they're terrible official sets for one reason or another. 

[TheRedBarron]

:^) 

Edited October 12, 2023 by TheRedBarron

[RichardGoring]

20 minutes ago, TheRedBarron said:

Will the poly bag be sold on legos website?

Unlikely, but it may be a GWP at some point?

You'll probably need to look at Target and WalMart for it, which is somewhat frustrating as they appear very variable as to which store has what stock.

[Flawless Cowboy]

33 minutes ago, NoOneOfImportance said:

This basically feels like superhero D2Cs of late as a whole (except the modulars). They are fine MOCs! BP, this, even the Hulkbuster, but they're terrible official sets for one reason or another. 

I wouldn’t compare this batcave to the BP or Hulkbuster, those just look bad without price or space considerations. The batcave looks superb, it just allocates what feels like half its budget on a container for the interior. 

[THELEGOBATMAN]

It's certainly a set 

I do like the interior, although it has barely any depth. The Batmobile also looks great.

The thing is, this feels like a 30€ Harry Potter gimmick-book-set turned into a 450€ Batcave. 

The whole front section is absolutely pointless, and covers up a pretty neat model. The back would've made a good 200€ set — but a 450€ gimmick-set is not something that should be a thing.

There's also obviously the baffling decision to base it on Batman Returns. A 200€ set based on that would've been understandable — but a 450€ one is not.

[Legocentrico]

5 minuti fa, THELEGOBATMAN ha detto:

C'è anche ovviamente la decisione sconcertante di basarla su Batman Returns

That's right.. this is not the batcave from the movie, so why use the context of the movie? why not add some color, some minifigures and make it comic??? With 15/20 minifigure comics I would have bought it on day one. lego mysteries…….

[strangely]

47 minutes ago, Legocentrico said:

That's right.. this is not the batcave from the movie, so why use the context of the movie? why not add some color, some minifigures and make it comic??? With 15/20 minifigure comics I would have bought it on day one. lego mysteries…….

I feel like maybe they had designed this batcave for something else originally and then decided to tie it in with the Flash movie and as such threw in a few Burton Batman elements.

Also, it baffles me that spinning the chair is advertised as a feature.

[mgetz]

So we are also getting another batmobile based off 1989 movie? that doesnt seem right to me, maybe it could be the Batman: Forever batmobile but i doubt it, i do find it strange that they would have this btmlbile in the set then another basically the same one in another 

[doclord]

25 minutes ago, mgetz said:

So we are also getting another batmobile based off 1989 movie? that doesnt seem right to me, maybe it could be the Batman: Forever batmobile but i doubt it, i do find it strange that they would have this btmlbile in the set then another basically the same one in another 

Probably because the set would look ridiculous without the batmobile. There may be some slight differences to differentiate the 89 and Returns vehicles.

[Legocentrico]

1 ora fa, disse stranamente:

Inoltre, mi sconcerta che girare la sedia sia pubblicizzato come una caratteristica.

haha that's right, how sad! I would have preferred the ninjago poop drain feature :-D

1 ora fa, mgetz ha detto:

Quindi stiamo anche prendendo un'altra batmobile basata sul film del 1989? Non mi sembra giusto, forse potrebbe essere la Batman: Forever batmobile ma ne dubito, trovo strano che avrebbero questo btmlbile nel set poi un altro fondamentalmente lo stesso in un altro

remember the batmobile was supposed to come out last year, this year it was cave + car and batwing… they probably kept the batmobile because they think it will sell regardless of the cave. moreover, if there is Joker, there are not many doubts about the film…

[PsychoBuilder]

15 hours ago, wesker said:

Definitely see this one getting heavily discounted like the Black Panther bust and Hulkbuster did.

How much did those go down again?

[Flawless Cowboy]

1 hour ago, mgetz said:

So we are also getting another batmobile based off 1989 movie? that doesnt seem right to me, maybe it could be the Batman: Forever batmobile but i doubt it, i do find it strange that they would have this btmlbile in the set then another basically the same one in another 

18+ set vs playset. Play set will likely be bigger, have stud shooters, more functionality at the expense of detail, etc.

[Nylock]

50 minutes ago, Brickroll said:

How much did those go down again?

44% I think?

[hikouki]

I would definitely pay $250 for this. LOL