Wizarding World 2023 - Rumors & Discussion

[Huigberts Builds]

Eh, I have very mixed feelings about this, I would love to see the things left out from the movies on screen, like Peeves and Winky, but I don't want to see them without Alan Rickman, Robbie Coltrane, Maggie Smith, Tom Felton, Emma, Rupert, Daniel... you get the point. Not to mention I absolutely hate many of the characters in the book. When I say I love Snape I mean Alan Rickman's Snape. I can't even stand the Golden Trio in the books at times, they can be rather rude and unlikable. Not to mention there are probably quite a few parts in the books that wouldn't be able to carry entire episodes, as books and series/movies are 2 completely different mediums, meaning they would have to come up with and add in new stuff to keep the audience engaged. Which is probably even worse than leaving out stuff. I mean I like the parts with the dursleys, but I wouldn't want them to drag it out to multiple episodes, especially if they were to release it on a weekly basis. At least they appear to be keeping the music somewhat the same this time around, (if the reveal was anything to go by.) I really wasn't a fan of the score they used for the Cursed Child play.

If Lego would ever shift focus from the movies to the show I would only pick up a Peeves and a Winky set for example, just the characters missing from the movie sets really. I don't need myself a short haired Lucius, or a blonde Petunia. Luckily after this year, Lego is slowly finishing the missing gaps, I just hope they won't wait too long with the last few missing pieces, and just give them to us right away in the next 2 years, as after that, chances are getting smaller of them being able to finish the thing.

Edited April 14, 2023 by Huigberts Builds

[MaxHeadroom]

My initial thought on the reboot was that the designs were always the best thing about this franchise (that’s why I love the Lego so much) and combining those with the excellent original cast makes the movies irreplaceable. Seeing the revealed series logo reusing the castle, font, and music makes me think WB agrees with my first opinion at least. Based on her critically panned work on the FB movies I think it’s fair to say JKR is probably better at writing books than films so her involvement with this series doesn’t inspire me with confidence. The movies benefited massively from editing out things like SPEW and I’m not looking forward to seeing all that onscreen, let alone all the stuff that didn’t even make it to the books like wizards’ bathroom habits before plumbing. 
 

I really don’t think LEGO will favor this series over the original films though unless this series is massively successful. Just look at how the LEGO reboot started in the first place, technically it was for Crimes of Grindelwald but 5 out of 7 sets (plus the D2C) were for the Harry Potter movies. When Secrets of Dumbledore came out LEGO didn’t even bother making a single set. Based on that logo I think it’s safe to assume most if not all the designs from the films will stick around so everything we saw in the movies and got as Lego sets should stay relatively the same. Aside from maybe Hermionie based on Cursed Child, I think most the characters will probably still look more or less as they did in the films. They’ve already got a light nougat head with round glasses, black eyebrows, and a lightning scar, why design a new one if the same features are shared between the films and the series. At that point why not just keep making all the sets based on the movies since 90% of the designs are the same anyway. 
 

That’s not to say I think the series will have no effect on LEGO though. I’m sure we will get Sorcerer/Philosopher’s Stone sets when the relevant series is released. I could see small things that don’t necessarily contradict the films like a Peeves figure for example popping up too. 

[JeanGreyForever]

2 hours ago, Huigberts Builds said:

Eh, I have very mixed feelings about this, I would love to see the things left out from the movies on screen, like Peeves and Winky, but I don't want to see them without Alan Rickman, Robbie Coltrane, Maggie Smith, Tom Felton, Emma, Rupert, Daniel... you get the point. Not to mention I absolutely hate many of the characters in the book. When I say I love Snape I mean Alan Rickman's Snape. I can't even stand the Golden Trio in the books at times, they can be rather rude and unlikable. Not to mention there are probably quite a few parts in the books that wouldn't be able to carry entire episodes, as books and series/movies are 2 completely different mediums, meaning they would have to come up with and add in new stuff to keep the audience engaged. Which is probably even worse than leaving out stuff. I mean I like the parts with the dursleys, but I wouldn't want them to drag it out to multiple episodes, especially if they were to release it on a weekly basis. At least they appear to be keeping the music somewhat the same this time around, (if the reveal was anything to go by.) I really wasn't a fan of the score they used for the Cursed Child play.

If Lego would ever shift focus from the movies to the show I would only pick up a Peeves and a Winky set for example, just the characters missing from the movie sets really. I don't need myself a short haired Lucius, or a blonde Petunia. Luckily after this year, Lego is slowly finishing the missing gaps, I just hope they won't wait too long with the last few missing pieces, and just give them to us right away in the next 2 years, as after that, chances are getting smaller of them being able to finish the thing.

A major element of the movies was that the youth were bolstered up by Britain's greatest talent. This show will not have the advantage of that. Even the British thespians who never worked in the original HP and could potentially be available for this are unlikely due to the fact that most of them are too old now to be guaranteed for 10 years straight or they probably have no interest especially if they weren't in HP the first time, why would they be in a streaming show knockoff? 

And I agree with you that as much as I love the books, the characters aren't always the best there. Harry is very unlikable in OOTP and the way Harry and Ron treat Hermione can be outright nasty. Harry at times doesn't even seem to like Hermione, just tolerate her, like in GoF and Deathly Hallows, when he's not on good terms with Ron and rather than appreciate Hermione's loyalty, he just moans about missing Ron. Snape was given for more depth and sympathy thanks to Alan Rickman's portrayal. 

People keep trying to justify this show by claiming it will be book accurate, but what's the guarantee that this will be word for word accurate for every book? For everything that they do make to be book accurate, I'm sure there'll be just as much that won't be. Another thing to keep in mind is that when the movies came out, the only thing they could be compared to was the books. Now this show will not only be compared to the books but also the movies so there will be plenty of stuff the movies got right which I'm sure the show will fail at. Many HP fans, especially book fans, think this show will be a magical fix for all the stuff they missed in the movies but there's never a perfect adaptation and this will certainly not be the first.

From what I've noticed, HP merchandise is selling better than ever even more than 10 years after the last movie. There's been a renaissance of HP merchandise, not just in Lego but for anything HP related, and I don't think there was even this much merchandise available when the movies were being released. In an instant, WB will kill that for a reboot which is not guaranteed to win over a new generation but pretty much is guaranteed to turn away fans of the movies. I expect HP merchandise sales will plummet the moment this reboot takes over. WB may not have a stake in the Universal theme parks and HP lands there, but they'll surely feel it when everything else HP related stops selling because there is no real demand for a reboot.

The show has only just been confirmed and already WB is getting defensive about the public outrage over it and trying to justify the reboot's existence. I'm just hoping there's enough public outcry that they quietly let this fizzle out. 

[Seaber]

I don't think sets based on a tv show that will stream on the fourth biggest streaming service (in the UK at least, probably lower in other countries) are very likely. I don't think it's even comparable to The Clone Wars or other Star Wars shows. 

So far there is no apparent production - they're using the film series houses, castle, music etc. No cast or crew announcement, I think this is further off than many of you think. 

 

Anyway, back to the current line, we can strike Scabior off the list of needed minifigs - if the leakers turn out to be wrong for whatever reason they can always be added back on. Aberforth is confirmed for the AC so he's gone too. 

PS: Lee Jordan, Alicia Spinnet, Tom, Dedalus Diggle, Doris Crockford, King's Cross Guard, Prof Vector, Bloody Baron, Fat Friar, Augusta Longbottom

CoS: Millicent Bulstrode, Mr and Mrs Mason, Ernie MacMillain, Penelope Clearwater

PoA: Aunt Marge

GoF: Roger Davies, Barry Crouch sr, Prof Karkaroff, Amos Diggory, Frank Bruce, Eloise Midgen

OotP: Mrs Figg, Zacharias Smith, Madam Bones, John Dawlish, Antonin Dolohov, Prof Grubbly-Plank

HBP: Narcissa Malfoy, Amycus Carrow, Alecto Carrow, Thorfinn Rowle, Romilda Vane, Leanne, Katie Bell, Cormac McLaggen, Marcus Belby

DH: Charity Burbage, Bill Weasley, Mundungus Fletcher, Elphius Doge, Rufus Scrimgeour, Xenophilius Lovegood, Aunt Muriel, Bathilda Bagshot, Dirk Cresswell. 

 

There is still so much potential for new sets with exciting new minifigures and nice new varients of existing ones. You could name 10 missing or in need of an upgrade sets of the top of your head I'm sure. I'm think we'll be getting sets based on the eight films for years to come. 
 

[RedHoodPug]

24 minutes ago, JeanGreyForever said:

A major element of the movies was that the youth were bolstered up by Britain's greatest talent. This show will not have the advantage of that. Even the British thespians who never worked in the original HP and could potentially be available for this are unlikely due to the fact that most of them are too old now to be guaranteed for 10 years straight or they probably have no interest especially if they weren't in HP the first time, why would they be in a streaming show knockoff? 

And I agree with you that as much as I love the books, the characters aren't always the best there. Harry is very unlikable in OOTP and the way Harry and Ron treat Hermione can be outright nasty. Harry at times doesn't even seem to like Hermione, just tolerate her, like in GoF and Deathly Hallows, when he's not on good terms with Ron and rather than appreciate Hermione's loyalty, he just moans about missing Ron. Snape was given for more depth and sympathy thanks to Alan Rickman's portrayal. 

Are you saying that we used up all of our good actors on the films, and now we have none left to help carry the TV show? How massively insulting. And as for them not wanting to be in a knock off series, I think you are underestimating what a show like this can do for someone’s acting credentials, and forgetting that an awful lot of actors missed the chance to be a part of the film series.

Regarding the characters being unlikeable at times, I don’t know whether you’ve spent a lot of time around teenagers but a lot of the time they are horrible to each other, adults, and even themselves.  Snape was given more depth and sympathy because the films were made with the benefit of hindsight and because Rickman was told about Snape’s bravery by Rowling. I’m not knocking him as an actor, but the added information certainly swayed his portrayal. 
 

I know I said I was out but the beatings will continue until morale improves, so to speak.

[BrickBob Studpants]

2 hours ago, Seaber said:

Anyway, back to the current line, we can strike Scabior off the list of needed minifigs -

*list*

Excellent list! I think we need to break it down a bit though. There are some essential characters on there, while others are almost guaranteed never to be appear in minifig form

In my opinion, the only must-haves are Lee Jordan, Igor Karkaroff, Narcissa Malfoy, Bill Weasley, and Xenophilius Lovegood. Oh, and a masked Death Eater. These we need before the theme ends.

Then we have „nice to have“ characters like Mundungus Fletcher, the Carrows, Rufus Scrimgeour, Prof Vector, the missing house ghosts, and Aunt Marge. Wouldn‘t lose any sleep over not getting them.

The next category in my book is the „unlikely“ category, which is filled with Amos Diggery, random students, and named but unmemorable Death Eaters. Don‘t care for any of them.

Finally, the „no way these get made“ minifigs: Charity Burbage, Frank Bryce, and other characters that exist just to die  Yeah, those will likely not get released, and for good reason.

[JeanGreyForever]

2 hours ago, RedHoodPug said:

Are you saying that we used up all of our good actors on the films, and now we have none left to help carry the TV show? How massively insulting. And as for them not wanting to be in a knock off series, I think you are underestimating what a show like this can do for someone’s acting credentials, and forgetting that an awful lot of actors missed the chance to be a part of the film series.

Regarding the characters being unlikeable at times, I don’t know whether you’ve spent a lot of time around teenagers but a lot of the time they are horrible to each other, adults, and even themselves.  Snape was given more depth and sympathy because the films were made with the benefit of hindsight and because Rickman was told about Snape’s bravery by Rowling. I’m not knocking him as an actor, but the added information certainly swayed his portrayal. 
 

I know I said I was out but the beatings will continue until morale improves, so to speak.

There are a great deal of British actors left who never starred in Harry Potter like Judi Dench, Vanessa Redgrave, Michael Caine, Jeremy Irons, Helen Mirren, etc. But look at their ages. Michael Caine is 90 I believe. Judi Dench is 88, the same age as Maggie Smith, and Vanessa Redgrave is 86. And I'm not sure even if you took their ages aside that they'd be interested in starring in HP if they didn't the first time around. Mirren at least did the Harry Potter game show. I know Kate Winslet and Hugh Grant were supposed to be in the original movies, or Grant was anyway but Kate Winslet's agent refused on her behalf. For most of the elite British talent, they hardly need a boost to their careers let alone from a show like this. For any fledgling or neophyte actors, I can't imagine they'd ever compare to the likes of Alan Rickman, Maggie Smith, Richard Harris, Gary Oldman, Emma Thompson, Imelda Staunton, Ralph Fiennes, etc. 

You've just admitted then that teenagers can be unlikable. No one said that Harry wasn't justified in being unlikable but he was unlikable nonetheless. The movies didn't beat it over the head how angsty he was, especially in OOTP when he's exploding in anger every few pages (something even Ron, Hermione, and Ginny note). JKR had the books planned way in advance. She knew about Snape's characterization from the beginning so it makes no sense your explanation that the movies were made in hindsight of Snape's secret whereas the books weren't. If JKR could tell Alan Rickman during the first movie, it's because she already knew herself while writing all the books but any book fans can tell you that Snape was far more pompous (even preening in PoA when he believes he will win an award from Fudge for catching Black) and unsympathetic such as when he demeans Hermione's appearance in Goblet of Fire after she's cursed by Draco. I don't know why you're taking it so personally that some of the characters could be less sympathetic in the books vs the movies.

[NostalgicBricks]

This thread is for discussing 2023 Lego Harry Potter. If any Lego was produced based on the show it wouldn’t be for years and years since the show has only just started pre-production. Please don’t get this thread locked with your back and fourths when we’re going to see the summer sets imminently. There are plenty of places online to discuss the show, this thread is the only place we have to discuss Lego. 

[Salix]

So what are the sets again we are expecting this summer? First page doesn't seem to be fully updated.

[BrickBob Studpants]

13 minutes ago, Salix said:

So what are the sets again we are expecting this summer? First page doesn't seem to be fully updated.

Buildable patroni/patronusses(?), buildable Dobby, Battle of Hogwarts, Quidditch Trunk, Hogwarts Express, and Weasleys‘ Wizard Wheezes in June, and a microscale Hogwarts, Gringotts, Gringotts vault (GWP), and the AC in September

In terms of minifigs, the patronus set includes Harry and Lupin, the Quidditch one Harry, Draco, and four students, while the BoH features Harry, Neville, Molly, McGonagall, Voldy, Bellatrix, and Scabior. The HE includes 8 minifigs and WWW 7, all of which are currently unknown.

Edited April 14, 2023 by BrickBob Studpants

[Seaber]

2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Excellent list! I think we need to break it down a bit though. There are some essential characters on there, while others are almost guaranteed never to be appear in minifig form ... 

Yup, I agree. I greatly expanded the list when the 2021 wave gave us a very minor character in Prof Sinistra (and then 2022 gave us Madam Pince), so felt obliged to add in the lesser known characters for completion. 

I was hoping to get Lee Jordan off the list with the Quidditch Trunk but no such luck. Hoping to get rid of a few students with the new HE, and maybe Cormac in WWW though. Otherwise, roll on 2024 

[Len]

Will we ever have Fang?....

[BrickBob Studpants]

19 minutes ago, Seaber said:

I was hoping to get Lee Jordan off the list with the Quidditch Trunk but no such luck. Hoping to get rid of a few students with the new HE, and maybe Cormac in WWW though. Otherwise, roll on 2024 

Yeah, this year‘s remaining sets will in all likelihood not help us reduce that list, except for some of the students, which I don‘t give a flying megablock about  Or maybe Bill, if we‘re lucky.

Just now, Len said:

Will we ever have Fang?....

No.

Seriously though, wasn‘t he with Hagrid at Hogsmeade station in some of the movies? Or am I just imagining things? If not, this would be a decent chance to get him!

Wouldn‘t make the set amazingly worthwhile, but it‘d be something!

[BrickMatit]

1 minute ago, Len said:

Will we ever have Fang?

I hope so... I admit that when thinking about missing characters, my first thought go to those characters I'd like to see plus are more difficult to create on my own.

[Len]

10 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

 

Seriously though, wasn‘t he with Hagrid at Hogsmeade station in some of the movies? Or am I just imagining things? If not, this would be a decent chance to get him!

 

It seems to me he never was with Hagrid at Hogsmeade station

[Murdoch17]

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Yeah, this year‘s remaining sets will in all likelihood not help us reduce that list, except for some of the students, which I don‘t give a flying megablock about  Or maybe Bill, if we‘re lucky.

No.

Seriously though, wasn‘t he with Hagrid at Hogsmeade station in some of the movies? Or am I just imagining things? If not, this would be a decent chance to get him!

Wouldn‘t make the set amazingly worthwhile, but it‘d be something!

Hagrid was at the station at the end of Philosopher's Stone, which (fun fact) was actually the first sequence filmed of the entire series.

Edited April 14, 2023 by Murdoch17

[Seaber]

9 minutes ago, Murdoch17 said:

Hagrid was at the station at the end of Philosopher's Stone, which (fun fact) was actually the first sequence filmed of the entire series.

I think you can see Daniel Radcliffe is wearing green contacts in some shots, which were quickly abandoned and they reshot some close ups like where he gets the photo album from Hagrid. 

Hagrid is there at the beginning and end of the films to collect the first years and say goodbye to Harry, but Fang is not there. Not that I'd be against his includion, but I think a PS Hagrid's hut with Norbert and Fang would be a very promising and possible  future set. 

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, Len said:

It seems to me he never was with Hagrid at Hogsmeade station

Well damn, there goes the only potential this set had, minifig/creature-wise  Unless they somehow manage to surprise us

[Seaber]

In addition to Fang, on the beast/creature/non-human side we're missing:

Norbert
Troll in the Dungeon
Unicorn (RIP) 
Inferi
Ukrainian Ironbelly
Giants
And the other dragons from the first task we only saw as models (slim chance of getting these though!) 

We have had owls, toads/frogs and centaurs, but not specifically named Errol, Trevor or Firenze - and they look very different to the centaurs in OotP. 

[Legocentrico]

I'm at work and bored, so I've been looking for reveal dates for the past few years:

April 28, 2020

 April 15, 2021

April 8, 2022

 lego has stopped the trend of anticipating :-P

[BrickBob Studpants]

13 minutes ago, Legocentrico said:

I'm at work and bored, so I've been looking for reveal dates for the past few years:

April 28, 2020

 April 15, 2021

April 8, 2022

 lego has stopped the trend of anticipating :-P

There are no patterns. They just reveal them whenever they feel like it, it seems  I'll trust the rumoured early May reveal and instead look forward to the rumour/update video from Promobricks, whenever that's coming.

[Legocentrico]

8 minuti fa, BrickBob Studpants ha detto:

Non ci sono schemi. Li rivelano solo ogni volta che ne hanno voglia, sembra Mi fiderò della presunta rivelazione all'inizio di maggio e invece non vedo l'ora che arrivi il video di voci/aggiornamento di Promobricks, ogni volta che arriverà.

uh do you think it's coming?  I thought it was too late for that kind of information from Promo 

[NostalgicBricks]

Fang was with Hagrid at the station in either 5 or 6 at the start.

[Seaber]

13 minutes ago, NostalgicBricks said:

Fang was with Hagrid at the station in either 5 or 6 at the start.

OotP has the thestral carriages and in HBP Harry and Luna go through the gates last - no Hagrid I'm afraid. 

[NostalgicBricks]

Spoiler

It's the HbP.

19 minutes ago, Seaber said:

OotP has the thestral carriages and in HBP Harry and Luna go through the gates last - no Hagrid I'm afraid. 

The reason I remembered seeing him was because my and cousin always commented on how smaller Fang looked when he's on the station from the first 2 movies. I think the dog was replaced.

Edited April 14, 2023 by NostalgicBricks