RedBrick1 Posted January 29 Author Posted January 29 Less than a week to go until crowdfunding opens for the Wild West Train! Pre-ordering starts on February 4th, 2025 at 8 AM Pacific time Quote
Space78 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 Brickset posted a detailed review of the Wild West Train with lots of photos. Very helpful to get a sense of this set before ordering if you are still deciding. https://brickset.com/article/118397/review-910044-wild-west-train Quote
RedBrick1 Posted February 4 Author Posted February 4 A little more than halfway to a sell-out. Steady sales. Not as strong as the Castle-related stuff, but shows that there is still a passionate Trains related fan-base - albeit, a smaller one. https://www.bricklink.com/v3/designer-program/series-4/1184/Wild-West-Train Quote
Space78 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 IMO, I don't think there's any doubt there is an AFOL fan base. However, Lego chose to make this the most expensive BDP set in this round. According to one of the reviews, the additions after the initial design added about 500 pieces, which roughly translates into $50 more than it would have been had the original design been followed. I have not seen much movement in the number of pre-orders for the past several hours, so this one may have stalled out. I wish the design and sales well, but I feel like Lego did not improve this set or its potential sales with the alterations. Quote
Lyichir Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) 17 hours ago, Space78 said: IMO, I don't think there's any doubt there is an AFOL fan base. However, Lego chose to make this the most expensive BDP set in this round. According to one of the reviews, the additions after the initial design added about 500 pieces, which roughly translates into $50 more than it would have been had the original design been followed. I have not seen much movement in the number of pre-orders for the past several hours, so this one may have stalled out. I wish the design and sales well, but I feel like Lego did not improve this set or its potential sales with the alterations. Important to note that Lego is not the one making changes to these. Unlike Ideas sets (which are redesigned by internal designers after being selected, including the potential to introduce new prints or other parts), Bricklink Designer Program sets are only redesigned by the project creator themselves, according to both the part selection available to them for production and their own whims. So while there may be changes required as a necessity of the program's limits (for example, substituting available parts for ones which aren't currently in production), Lego as a corporate entity or Lego employees are not the ones deciding on those changes themselves. Edited February 5 by Lyichir Quote
Space78 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lyichir said: Important to note that Lego is not the one making changes to these. Unlike Ideas sets (which are redesigned by internal designers after being selected, including the potential to introduce new prints or other parts), Bricklink Designer Program sets are only redesigned by the project creator themselves, according to both the part selection available to them for production and their own whims. So while there may be changes required as a necessity of the program's limits (for example, substituting available parts for ones which aren't currently in production), Lego as a corporate entity or Lego employees are not the ones deciding on those changes themselves. If you look at the review by @kbalage posted on YouTube, he states he talked with the set designer for the Wild West Train and changes to the set were made by him in conjunction with Lego designers. If I understood him correctly, an additional train car was added just because Lego track comes in packs of 4. The original design fit on 7 track sections, but Lego would be including 8 because that's how they are packaged. That did not have to impact the design of the set other than the extra track, but Lego & the designer decided to add another train car to fill the 8 sections, add minifigures and additional horses = 500 more pieces and the commensurate increase in cost/price. I very much doubt a BDP designer can unilaterally change/add to an approved submission without approval/consultation/collaboration/input from Lego. We are all aware Lego owns Bricklink, right? Edited February 5 by Space78 Quote
Lyichir Posted February 5 Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Space78 said: If you look at the review by @kbalage posted on YouTube, he states he talked with the set designer for the Wild West Train and changes to the set were made by him in conjunction with Lego designers. If I understood him correctly, an additional train car was added just because Lego track comes in packs of 4. The original design fit on 7 track sections, but Lego would be including 8 because that's how they are packaged. That did not have to impact the design of the set other than the extra track, but Lego & the designer decided to add another train car to fill the 8 sections, add minifigures and additional horses = 500 more pieces and the commensurate increase in cost/price. I very much doubt a BDP designer can unilaterally change/add to an approved submission without approval/consultation/collaboration/input from Lego. We are all aware Lego owns Bricklink, right? I mean, obviously they're working with Lego, but Lego isn't the one ultimately making those decisions, just the one approving the final version for production. After all, the Brick Cross Train Station from the same program had no issue using only three out of four track segments and leaving one extra unused. Treating this as some decision that was forced on the project rather than something the creator themselves decided on and followed through with feels like blame-shifting. Quote
Space78 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 59 minutes ago, Lyichir said: I mean, obviously they're working with Lego, but Lego isn't the one ultimately making those decisions, just the one approving the final version for production. After all, the Brick Cross Train Station from the same program had no issue using only three out of four track segments and leaving one extra unused. Treating this as some decision that was forced on the project rather than something the creator themselves decided on and followed through with feels like blame-shifting. I'm just going on what @kbalage stated in his video. That he actually talked to the designer about how/why the set was expanded. I'm unclear why you think this came from the designer when the original submission did not have the extra parts? Not trying to "blame" anyone, just wondering about the rationale to make this set bigger and thus more expensive that what the original submission would have been. Let's face it, had this been a train only with the option to motorize, it likely would have sold out by now. I think the high price is a part of what's holding sales back. Quote
M_slug357 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 @Lyichir The track sections in the Brick Cross set are detachable and not ballasted though. That's why Lego probably asked the designer of the Wild West train to either lengthen the train to 8 sections or shorten it to 4. Since there was enough room, the designer presumably petitioned for the flatcar + extra figs& horses. Personally, I would have opted for one less horse and 2-3 more cactuar... Quote
RedBrick1 Posted February 11 Author Posted February 11 A good number of Trains submissions in this next round - up for voting now: https://www.bricklink.com/v3/designer-program/series-7/main.page Quote
hrdknxbrix Posted March 17 Posted March 17 On 2/11/2025 at 1:03 PM, RedBrick1 said: A good number of Trains submissions in this next round - up for voting now: https://www.bricklink.com/v3/designer-program/series-7/main.page The only rail-related submission that was selected is the Sushi Restaurant. Quote
M_slug357 Posted March 17 Posted March 17 The tram and track section add an unnecessary 3-400 pcs to whats otherwise a decent building. What also bugs me is the lil pop-up food cart that seems to be selling dumplings... that's like putting a taco truck in front of a Mexican restaurant... hopefully those bits get cut and either lower the parts' count down to 3k, or they take those 400ish parts to increase the restaurant's size! Lastly, can anyone read kanji / chinese characters? lol fingers crossed those don't translate into something dumb or offensive to those cultures Quote
hrdknxbrix Posted May 11 Posted May 11 Series 8 voting is open. Several train related submissions/resubmissions. Quote
The Big MC Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Agreed, just gone over them and voted for anything train I liked. Quote
Murdoch17 Posted May 13 Posted May 13 LEGO is releasing all unsold copies of BDP Series 1 & 2 on May 20th, at 8 am Pacific time at the online LEGO Shop. The catch is it's only for US and Canadian residents, and we don't know how much or of what there is to get. But this could potentially mean Old Train Engine Shed, Brick Cross Train Station, and / or the Logging Railway could be up for sale in (probably) small quantities. Be sure to set an alarm as it will all go FAST! (More info at Brickset.) Quote
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