NV Lego technic Posted January 14 Posted January 14 5 minutes ago, 2GodBDGlory said: This new electronics system is interesting! I really, really can't see Lego using these motors in Technic sets, though, just due to their extremely studded body shells. Could studless motors with the same functionality come to Technic? That seems more possible, but I still don't think it too likely. Internal batteries for every motor would be seriously expensive for a non-educational set, and it seems like the whole ecosystem is too education/programming based to be an at all workable system for Technic sets. Still, it's interesting to see that Lego is developing new electronics! It would definitely seem that PU is ending its run, so it'll be interesting to see what replaces it. Exactly. Only make something like a small spike motor available in technic form. Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted January 14 Posted January 14 2 hours ago, zoo said: Are we sure it will not be the 1989 Batmobile tires? No. But the Audi tyres would look way better. I don't see why TLG wouldn't use them. Quote
gyenesvi Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Oh, new electronics is a promising sign! But I as well can't imagine a system like this, even in different form factor, for RC technic sets. So I am hoping that they realized that the programmability thing for technic was not the most popular idea and they just separate Technic from the Education line and make something more plug and play for technic, such as physical controller.. Just hope we don't end up with something even worse, such as controllers tied (via firmware) to official sets.. Quote
Aurorasaurus Posted January 14 Posted January 14 I seriously doubt the possibility of motors and batteries in one for technic sets, as a system like PF/PU with interchangeable components. But at the same time, maybe it is cheaper R&D wise to make a specialised new hub unit thing for every model than to design a generic reusable system, and part of a broader shift in focus for TLG. Like how we're seeing a shift from generic "do it all" elements to more specialised "do it properly" elements. (specialised new tires for vehicles, bevel and non bevel gears, new porsche hub) Quote
Andman Posted January 15 Posted January 15 11 hours ago, R0Sch said: RIP PoweredUp. This will be the new motorization system: Ist the plug in the devices USB-C? Quote
rm8 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 39 minutes ago, Andman said: Ist the plug in the devices USB-C? yes, small recharegables inside Quote
howitzer Posted January 15 Posted January 15 It would suck if there won't be any backward compatibility at all with PU motors. Also I can't see them making motorized sets where every motor etc. includes rechargeable batteries, as those require special handling in shipping etc. so I think there'll be some kind of hub that can take AA/AAA-batteries and the usual motors with wires. An integrated battery would also make motors much larger, which would be undesirable regarding set design, especially when there's multiple motors. Quote
allanp Posted January 15 Posted January 15 10 hours ago, gyenesvi said: Oh, new electronics is a promising sign! But I as well can't imagine a system like this, even in different form factor, for RC technic sets. So I am hoping that they realized that the programmability thing for technic was not the most popular idea and they just separate Technic from the Education line and make something more plug and play for technic, such as physical controller.. Just hope we don't end up with something even worse, such as controllers tied (via firmware) to official sets.. Agreed. While it's interesting to see new electronics and a possible confirmation that PU is gone, I don't see this particular new system being good for Technic. Having to charge each motor individually and turn on/off each one wouldn't be fun play time. Being able to code and program stuff is one thing but they need to get the basics right first, like simple, inexpensive plug and play operation, like the 9v system or PF. Then if they want to add other functionality like basic RC then add receivers and physical remotes like PF, and if they want to add more advanced programming options/RC then have something like the control center that doubles as a big, fully programmable physical remote, or even the code pilot from the 9v system. There shouldn't be any need to be tied to third party smart devices or computers. Quote
dhc6twinotter Posted January 15 Posted January 15 I hope this isn’t the replacement for PU. This is even worse. Let’s go back to PF with Bluetooth receivers. Quote
Aurorasaurus Posted January 15 Posted January 15 52 minutes ago, dhc6twinotter said: I hope this isn’t the replacement for PU. This is even worse. Let’s go back to PF with Bluetooth receivers. I agree. Or with radio receivers, some of the chinese fake pf receivers use 2.4ghz, so there's no reason lego couldn't do the same. Quote
AVCampos Posted January 15 Posted January 15 48 minutes ago, Aurorasaurus said: some of the chinese fake pf receivers use 2.4ghz, so there's no reason lego couldn't do the same. Maybe for safety and/or RF radiation regulations? Quote
gyenesvi Posted January 15 Posted January 15 2 hours ago, AVCampos said: Maybe for safety and/or RF radiation regulations? I wouldn't think so, otherwise all the RC products would have the same problem, no? 3 hours ago, dhc6twinotter said: Let’s go back to PF with Bluetooth receivers. But yeah, essentially that, would be good enough (as a start)! And proper servos for god's sake! They are used everywhere and cheap and precise.. shouldn't be too hard to integrate. I think they could actually fit into the PU system even, where the system can recognise the motor and emit the proper signal.. Quote
Aurorasaurus Posted January 15 Posted January 15 42 minutes ago, gyenesvi said: And proper servos for god's sake! THIS. I didnt get what all the fuss was about til I used proper servos, now its honestly really unpleasant using the makeshift solutions lego has done in the past. They're cheap and precise and strong. Whats not to love? Quote
msk6003 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 12 hours ago, AVCampos said: Maybe for safety and/or RF radiation regulations? It must be a radio certification issue. At least in Korea where I live, any device that uses radio waves must be certified for sale. However, infrared and Bluetooth do not fall under this category, which is why PF and PU used infrared and Bluetooth, respectively. Quote
Mikdun Posted January 16 Posted January 16 17 hours ago, AVCampos said: Maybe for safety and/or RF radiation regulations? As I remember the 2.4GHz is allowed for open use, provided low power of transmitters (10mW). Quote
Toastie Posted January 16 Posted January 16 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mikdun said: As I remember the 2.4GHz is allowed for open use Yeah - as you said, with some power restriction. Bluetooth is there as well, DECT phones, WiFi, and hey, microwave ovens running at 800W output power. So don't tinker with the interlock of your microwave, it may adversely interfere with a good number of your smart home and not so smart home gadgets. 18 hours ago, Aurorasaurus said: chinese fake pf receivers use 2.4ghz, so there's no reason lego couldn't do the same Oh, they did and do: Bluetooth is running at 2.4 GHz - that would be the LEGO NXT PBrick - as well as Bluetooth Low Energy, which is the carrier for TLG's PoweredUp & Co line, sometimes called Control+ in this forum. So yeah, they actually can ... Best, Thorsten Edited January 16 by Toastie Quote
Zerobricks Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Anyone else worried about the lack of motorized sets this year? In 2023 we had 2 motorized sets, in 2024 only the Porsche with integrated hub and now in 2025 it seems nothing? In the era of Power Functions we would on average get at least 2 if not more motorized sets every year... Quote
1gor Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zerobricks said: Anyone else worried about the lack of motorized sets this year? In 2023 we had 2 motorized sets, in 2024 only the Porsche with integrated hub and now in 2025 it seems nothing? In the era of Power Functions we would on average get at least 2 if not more motorized sets every year... Well I didn't hear my wallet complaining because (most likely) I won't buy anything...perhaps Volvo... Edited January 18 by 1gor Quote
kbalage Posted January 18 Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Zerobricks said: Anyone else worried about the lack of motorized sets this year? In 2023 we had 2 motorized sets, in 2024 only the Porsche with integrated hub and now in 2025 it seems nothing? 42214 or 42215 still can be motorized. Quote
allanp Posted January 18 Posted January 18 4 hours ago, Zerobricks said: Anyone else worried about the lack of motorized sets this year? In 2023 we had 2 motorized sets, in 2024 only the Porsche with integrated hub and now in 2025 it seems nothing? In the era of Power Functions we would on average get at least 2 if not more motorized sets every year... We haven't heard much if anything about the summer wave though have we? Quote
KLF Posted January 19 Posted January 19 21 hours ago, kbalage said: 42214 or 42215 still can be motorized. Can but isn't. ;) Quote
allanp Posted January 19 Posted January 19 23 minutes ago, KLF said: Can but isn't. ;) Aha! You know something we don't? Quote
anyUser Posted January 19 Posted January 19 (edited) On 12/30/2024 at 8:05 AM, R0Sch said: Here's the Studio file with all 80 parts accounted for: 412405.io In my setup the innermost 3L-friction-pin-with-bush will prevent the gear wheel from turning: (BTW: at Brickset the model has now set number 412502) On 12/30/2024 at 8:27 PM, Erik Leppen said: I tried using this connection of inserting a bar in one of the holes, and I believe I never got the parts separated again. I built a copy with 3L bars. These will need little force to insert into the knob wheels since they only go in half way. Edited January 19 by anyUser Quote
R0Sch Posted January 20 Posted January 20 19 hours ago, anyUser said: In my setup the innermost 3L-friction-pin-with-bush will prevent the gear wheel from turning: (BTW: at Brickset the model has now set number 412502) Good find. I did not notice that in the model. Then just use two 2L pins and leave the middle free. I know about the part nr. changes. The firetruck also received a 4125 set nr. even though it came out in 2024. Quote
KLF Posted January 20 Posted January 20 23 hours ago, allanp said: Aha! You know something we don't? No! :D I just thought that Balazs knows that those sets are NOT motorized but CAN probably be by some PF addition. ;) Maybe he should have used the word "could" instead of "can". ;) Quote
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