2025 Technic Sets Discussion

[Auroralampinen]

1 hour ago, pleegwat said:

A lunar outpost as a technic set?

Yes rainbow resource center says its lunar outpost moon:) 

[Bricksley]

I don't see it in the posts, but this is what the actual demolition version of the Volvo excavator looks like:

[M_longer]

Two new connectors from 42205:

 

Edited February 25 by M_longer

[Bartybum]

15 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

What else can be put into a helicopter in addition to Cyclic Pitch?

If you got the main rotor to spin fast enough you could implement a properly articulated rotor system that allows the blades to flap and lag like they do in real life. You'd probably need to go pretty fast for there to be any visible motion from aerodynamics so I think that's quite unlikely.

More realistically, I think the selling point for Technic helicopters will lie either in alternative rotor configurations such as intermeshing (Kaman K-Max) or coaxial (Kamov Ka-32 unlicensed ripoff but this time with full cyclic, collective and differential collective pitch), or interesting airframes like the Sikorsky Skycrane. A Chinook would probably end up in the same fiasco that killed the Osprey. I can't say I'd really be interested in any helicopters beyond those four though.

[icm]

I think they could get away with a Chinook. Civilian variants of the Chinook are real and they've been used for decades in oil and gas work. A civilian variant of the Osprey was only hypothetical.

[mpj]

7 hours ago, Bricksley said:

I don't see it in the posts, but this is what the actual demolition version of the Volvo excavator looks like:

I think the set is just an excavator and not a demolition excavator. The info was slightly wrong and it was called in that way because the set comes with a bucket and with an hammer.

[KLF]

Hammer? What kind of hammer? Something like this?

[Maaboo the Witch]

12 hours ago, Bricksley said:

I don't see it in the posts

I did post an image of the EC500 here. But I can see what you're talking about; this looks more like the version TLG is going with. Plus, now I can definitely see where 2400 parts would go. I'm guessing there'll be a lot of tubing used in the same way as on 42100.

3 hours ago, KLF said:

Hammer? What kind of hammer? Something like this?

Exactly.

[KLF]

18 minutes ago, Maaboo the Witch said:

Exactly.

Well, then I expect a compressor function. But I guess demolition jaws would be more interesting.

[gyenesvi]

3 hours ago, KLF said:

Well, then I expect a compressor function.

I wouldn't hold my breath for it; it can just be a static hammer-looking head. Especially if it is interchangeable with a bucket, as is rumored, which would probably not need any mechanical actuation. But yeah, functional demolition jaws would be more interesting..

As for the idea of this using 2x of the new all-in-one hubs. True that it has 3 functions, and this could be implemented using 3+3 functions, but that hub is long and has 2 outputs at the back/side and one at the front. How would that be incorporated into the bottom / superstructure of this kind of machine so that the outputs can be routed where they are needed? I guess the bottom could be hacked around, drive looks simple, the challenge being the front output for slewing, the whole hub / mechanism would stick out longitudinally. But using that hub in the superstructure would be quite complicated, and certainly very impractical, I don't see how it could be placed so that all outputs can be routed properly. So I guess that hub is just for sportscars.

So still curious what kind of actuation mechanism this will use. I hope they will want to do something different from previously existing approaches. An RC pneumatic system in the superstructure would be perfect here :))) 1 motor for the pump, 3 motors for the switches. But I guess that's just us dreaming.

[Maaboo the Witch]

Since we can reasonably assume that the EC500 is based around CON+TROLL, there'll probably be some interactive mode that revolves around the hammer touching various surfaces and "drilling" them.

[1gor]

...or simplest solution (as usual with Lego); bottom rechargible unit that uses left side output for left track, right side for right track and central for suoerstructure turning; upper can use same 3 outputs for excavator arm control (it has 3 main functions)...

[gyenesvi]

40 minutes ago, 1gor said:

...or simplest solution (as usual with Lego); bottom rechargible unit that uses left side output for left track, right side for right track and central for suoerstructure turning; upper can use same 3 outputs for excavator arm control (it has 3 main functions)...

I just described above why I don't think that's really feasible, so I wonder how you think it's doable with those hubs..? I mean routing of hub outputs.

Edited February 26 by gyenesvi

[kbalage]

50 minutes ago, gyenesvi said:

I just described above why I don't think that's really feasible, so I wonder how you think it's doable with those hubs..? I mean routing of hub outputs.

I think the biggest challenge is to route the bottom steering/servo output to rotate the superstructure. The side outputs are in a good position to drive the tracks, and for the superstructure it is fairly straightforward to route the 2 rear outputs on the two sides next to the hub to have 3 parallel outputs on the other side. 

[AVCampos]

6 minutes ago, kbalage said:

I think the biggest challenge is to route the bottom steering/servo output to rotate the superstructure.

If the turntable ring is large enough and actuated from as far from its centre as possible, I think it's possible. Still hard, though.,

[allanp]

I'm still dreaming of RC pneumatics, or any pneumatics for a change, as we've already had a few varieties of LA/RC driven flagship excavators. With this twin all-in-one hub idea, are y'all actually hoping for more of the same, or are you just managing expectations so as to not be disappointed?! 

The tracks on the real one look quite like the cat dozer tracks. If it's in scale with those then 2300 pieces is easily reachable. 

[tomfow]

30 minutes ago, allanp said:

I'm still dreaming of RC pneumatics, or any pneumatics for a change, as we've already had a few varieties of LA/RC driven flagship excavators. With this twin all-in-one hub idea, are y'all actually hoping for more of the same, or are you just managing expectations so as to not be disappointed?! 

The tracks on the real one look quite like the cat dozer tracks. If it's in scale with those then 2300 pieces is easily reachable. 

Totally agree. Air tank, pneu engine or some new element would be awesome. Especilly proper combination with motors - RC. 

[AVCampos]

45 minutes ago, allanp said:

or are you just managing expectations so as to not be disappointed?! 

I'm in that camp. I'll wait for first images, or, better yet, reviews, to make up my opinion.

[Oh_Hi_Mao]

16 minutes ago, AVCampos said:

I'm in that camp. I'll wait for first images, or, better yet, reviews, to make up my opinion.

My guess with managed expextations: Two "old" Technic hubs and 7 motors. Lego will empty their hubs and motors warehouse shelves with this set. 

Edited February 26 by Oh_Hi_Mao

[gyenesvi]

3 hours ago, kbalage said:

for the superstructure it is fairly straightforward to route the 2 rear outputs on the two sides next to the hub to have 3 parallel outputs on the other side. 

That's true, but I think that way we'd get the 3 driveshafts too wide apart, which would need further space to get them to the right place, and the integrated hub is already too long and would take up too much longitudinal space. It would also leave the rest of the superstructure behind the cabin empty. Another complication might be that the bottom dual actuators on the arm actually need two inputs, and the routing for that would need to avoid collision with the driveshafts for the other LAs (which could only enter the arm using a U-joint at a specific height at the flex point of the arm).

I think actually a simpler solution would be to put the hub with the rear outputs facing the arm, entering the arm immediately through U-joints, and route the 3rd output under or on the two sides of the hub to drive the dual actuators that lift the arm. Maybe that's feasible. Not that I wish it was so..

2 hours ago, allanp said:

With this twin all-in-one hub idea, are y'all actually hoping for more of the same, or are you just managing expectations so as to not be disappointed?! 

The latter, I'm kind of trying to rule it out in my head :D

[Auroralampinen]

Well the brickmerge.de says the 42214 is 10+ so i have huge suspicion that the lamborghini revelueto super sports car is successor to porsche but since it has 1135pcs i think the lamborghini has suspension 

But after i looked the pictures to real car i can start to feel the 1135pcs starts make sence since the original is really complex looking and more complex lookig than the porsche

[kbalage]

13 minutes ago, Auroralampinen said:

Well the brickmerge.de says the 42214 is 10+ so i have huge suspicion that the lamborghini revelueto super sports car is successor to porsche but since it has 1135pcs i think the lamborghini has suspension 

If it is RC and a sports car it will have zero suspension for sure 

[Aurorasaurus]

Has anyone tried using the porsche hub with a heavier vehicle in the same chasiss setup? If the hub has enough torque to move ~300 more pieces, then its probably gonna be an rc set.

[lmdesigner42]

I am almost excited for the 42210 Skyline GT-R, the Speed Champions version was excellent. Based on the piece count, I am guessing it will be the same size as the 42154 Ford GT, which was well built but the smaller scale resulted in some visual compromises. Hopefully the boxier shape of the GT-R will translate to Technic better.

[mpj]

42217 will be a blue version of the Corvette.

More recoloured parts oh yes!