Marvel Superheroes 2025 - Rumors & Discussion

[NXS7]

15 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Obviously there's no guarantee it'll be 1:1, but the spider verse set has 7 new prints (miles head/torso, miles's dad head/torso, spot head/torso/legs. Not sure if Gwen's are new or not). Anti-venom assumably will be the exact same, and I can't imagine Hobgoblin uses more than a head and torso. So unless this set has significantly fewer prints than the other one, we might be getting new prints for spidey and MJ.

Gwen's torso was new, plus I believe the head used for unmasked Miles. Jeff's torso is reused from city though, so 8 total

I remain doubtful for a new Spidey (unless it's a specific new costume for a one off), as for MJ I'm guessing the Jyn Erso/Black Widow head

[Mandalorianknight]

2 hours ago, NXS7 said:

Gwen's torso was new, plus I believe the head used for unmasked Miles. Jeff's torso is reused from city though, so 8 total

I remain doubtful for a new Spidey (unless it's a specific new costume for a one off), as for MJ I'm guessing the Jyn Erso/Black Widow head

Ok, so 8 total, one of them leg print (which we've heard is more expensive)

Looking at the apartment, we have Anti-venom, who won't have new prints, and Hobgoblin, who'll assumably use 2-3 new prints. Obviously there's no guarantee there's the same number of new prints, but it's been pointed out that it's around the same piece count (and the same fig count) as the ATSV set. The main rationales I saw for how overpriced that set were were that it had the ATSV license and the number of new prints. 

I think there's not a bad chance that this set uses some larger pieces and has new face and toro prints for MJ. (On the other hand, it's not impossible that it's just absurdly overpriced)

3 hours ago, Swordy said:

That’s the case with those other sets you mentioned too, I feel. Those sets (and the mechs too) feel like a waste of prints and bricks—although new windshields are always nice. At least the monster truck set can work fine as is, since one can chose not to apply those stickers and feature a generic truck in their city. I see what you’re trying to say, though I’d rather they’d focus their efforts into

Friendly PSA to any leakers: STOP BEING OVERLY VAGUE. First Redwood, now Mr. Negative? Are we going to see a post with a picture of TCW Anakin only for it be a buildable Vader helmet? Is this just a normal occurrence that I’m going to have to get used to with these leakers? This isn’t the same thing as getting disappointed a ship isn’t exactly as imagined, or an innocent mistake—this is outright misdirection.

MJ sounds promising! I hope it’s mostly new pieces for one of comic’s most iconic “side” characters. Hobgoblin’s detail will probably be on par with that of X-Jet Wolverine—still, great to hear we have a new villain to anticipate.

As for the Human Torch, I hope they do his Flame On look; in which case I still expect an approach similar to Iceman who matches his Silver Age look perfectly. Then again, the Thing does appear to be wearing the same uniform Johnny wears (white collar, white stripe on the arms) so I could see TLG reusing the same print for those two to save costs. All I can say is that I sincerely hope not.

I don't know, I feel like sets like the Iron Man Car, Venom Car, Morbmobile at least are at least not standard city vehicles.

I think the overly vague stuff is a way to get views/clicks/whatever without actually saying anything that could be proven wrong. I'm not calling anyone specific out here, I could easily see Mr. Negative just being an attempt at a joke that didn't work.

She really needs a new torso, ideally a new head, and her hair needs to be straight up red. Not dark orange, red.

5 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

That's a minifig playset and not a helmet or prop replica is for the kids ( even though it's what most of us Afols prefer)!

Yeah but I feel like they usually like to have SOMETHING in terms of play features or vehicles. I guess it's possible this could be a Gamer Thor Diorama situation, but while I'll love the set if it's just a well-made Peter's apartment, I'd be shocked if lego didn't have some play features or a vehicle larger than a glider in it. 

[SEmrys]

On 2/1/2025 at 7:07 PM, Mandalorianknight said:

I'm pretty confident that it'll be a re-used suit with the Star Wars Finn hairpiece and a generic head. 

You're almost certainly right but for me it would have been the main draw  Especially cause you could then double up and make a purist Harry. 

Also, I don't think anyone's mentioned it, and it's not a big deal, but is it just me or is it a bit weird that Peter Parker's apartment doesn't feature... Peter Parker? Like, out-of-costume. Oscorp features Norman and the Goblin, after all. 

I imagine at very least they'll give him an unmasked head like the Bodega characters. 

Then again, I suppose the last Peter Parker apartment didn't either, but that was semi-movie based. 

[PRbrickbuilder]

On 2/5/2025 at 3:09 PM, NXS7 said:

I remain doubtful for a new Spidey (unless it's a specific new costume for a one off), as for MJ I'm guessing the Jyn Erso/Black Widow head

Black suit Spidey would look great against Hobgoblin and Anti-Venom (and also against Kraven in the other set). But I know I'm asking too much

[brickbride]

The Armor Wars movie is apparently dead according to recent leaks, good riddance. Maybe Marvel are finally wising up about every B- and C-lister from the Infinity Saga getting their own movie or series?

In other news, catching up on my missing MCU movies I've finally found one worse than Quantumania: Thor Love & Thunder. Yikes that thing is unwatchable, I didn't even get halfway through, just stared at the screen like WTF am I seeing here? And who thought this would be funny and/or in good taste? The Guardians who are barely in it are awfully written, I felt embarrassed for Chris Pratt whose unhappiness with the material and/or direction radiated from the screen. How that thing made money while The Marvels (a cinematic masterpiece in comparison, despite its problems) flopped I'll never understand. I guess it mostly benefitted from its 2022 release at a time when the future of the MCU still looked brighter and people were more worried about missing out on individual entries? At least it gave us a decent LEGO set in the Goat Boat. Ah, the times when MCU movies still got an automatic wave of several sets.

Edited February 8 by brickbride

[CloneCommando99]

17 minutes ago, brickbride said:

The Armor Wars movie is apparently dead according to recent leaks, good riddance. Maybe Marvel are finally wising up about every B- and C-lister from the Infinity Saga getting their own movie or series?

Bruh. Until their TV-Shows, Rhodey had more screen time than both Hawkeye and Scarlet Witch. Also he’s been around from the beginning and was part of the Endgame roster, him being a C-Lister or even a B-Lister is somewhat (emphasis on the somewhat) debatable.

If anything, he’s the 2nd Gen Avenger who deserved his own project the most. Instead he got insulted in Secret Invasion.

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, PRbrickbuilder said:

Black suit Spidey would look great against Hobgoblin and Anti-Venom (and also against Kraven in the other set). But I know I'm asking too much

Yeah, unfortunately I don't think we see anything like that, but I don't think it's impossible the summer wave introduces a new base design. It's been awhile- obviously not as long as the 2012 design lasted, but still, after the 2019 design only lasted a couple years I had some hope we'd start rotating designs out every now and then.

24 minutes ago, brickbride said:

The Armor Wars movie is apparently dead according to recent leaks, good riddance. Maybe Marvel are finally wising up about every B- and C-lister from the Infinity Saga getting their own movie or series?

In other news, catching up on my missing MCU movies I've finally found one worse than Quantumania: Thor Love & Thunder. Yikes that thing is unwatchable, I didn't even get halfway through, just stared at the screen like WTF am I seeing here? And who thought this would be funny and/or in good taste? The Guardians who are barely in it are awfully written, I felt embarrassed for Chris Pratt whose unhappiness with the material and/or direction radiated from the screen. How that thing made money while The Marvels (a cinematic masterpiece in comparison, despite its problems) flopped I'll never understand. I guess it mostly benefitted from its 2022 release at a time when the future of the MCU still looked brighter and people were more worried about missing out on individual entries? At least it gave us a decent LEGO set in the Goat Boat. Ah, the times when MCU movies still got an automatic wave of several sets.

We've been hearing for awhile that they realized their approach wasn't working and that, for lack of a better term, they actually needed to make their projects good. Daredevil should be the first litmus test of whether or not they actually can do that as it started under the old approach but allegedly they more or less scrapped it and completely restarted. (I know CA4 is sooner but I believe most of it was done before they started the shift from quantity to quality, and while some of the trailers do seem pretty good, I'm definitely waiting until an independent reviewer covers it before watching. The days of MCU movies being must-watch for me are long gone.)

That's a tough one for me, I gotta say they're more or less equally bad. One dropped the ball on one of the best comic book villains of the 21st century, the other dropped the ball on the MCU's attempt to make a new Thanos. (Not... not that Kang being good in quantumania would have saved the Kang situation....) One made one of the Young Avengers pretty unlikeable, the other took a character who used to be funny and made him unlikeable. One was overly comedic for a story about murdering gods and a protagonist with cancer, the other was overly comedic for a story trying to set up a Thanos. (I will say my favorite part of Love and Thunder is Chris Pratt seemingly being the only person on set who could see how the movie was going to turn out. Rewatching his scene you can almost feel him warning the audience.)

2 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Bruh. Until their TV-Shows, Rhodey had more screen time than both Hawkeye and Scarlet Witch. Also he’s been around from the beginning and was part of the Endgame roster, him being a C-Lister or even a B-Lister is somewhat (emphasis on the somewhat) debatable.

If anything, he’s the 2nd Gen Avenger who deserved his own project the most. Instead he got insulted in Secret Invasion.

A friend of mine used to say his superpower was "being friends with Iron Man". He's had some good character moments, but I don't know that a war-machine led movie or show would work super well. And if Marvel Studios tried for years and ended up deciding it wouldn't work, with some of the projects they HAVE released over the past few years, I'll certainly take their word for it.

[thebricksbear]

7 hours ago, brickbride said:

The Armor Wars movie is apparently dead according to recent leaks, good riddance. Maybe Marvel are finally wising up about every B- and C-lister from the Infinity Saga getting their own movie or series?

Terribad take. Armor Wars is probably the most popular solo-run Iron Man series to date. In fact, now thay nano-tech is commonplace, Ironheart already releasing, and Rhodey being involved in US politics, it's even more relevant to the current MCU. Who wouldn't want to see a royal rumble with Crimson Dynamo, Titanium Man, etc...?

 

On topic, I do really like the new hall of Armor extension. If the price wasn't so terrible it'd be a day one buy

[Swordy]

On 2/5/2025 at 3:59 PM, Mandalorianknight said:

I think the overly vague stuff is a way to get views/clicks/whatever without actually saying anything that could be proven wrong. I'm not calling anyone specific out here, I could easily see Mr. Negative just being an attempt at a joke that didn't work.

She really needs a new torso, ideally a new head, and her hair needs to be straight up red. Not dark orange, red.

True, I did think after I said what I did that scenario might have been what happened, but then the guy should come out and say it before people got their hopes up.

Agreed on all three points. I could see maybe the Pepper Potts head being reused, but MJ deserves better. (So does Gwen, but that’s another discussion.)

On 2/5/2025 at 11:24 AM, BrickBob Studpants said:

He‘s not a new character though, we had him in the Ghostrider set in 2016

My guess: It‘s his regular costume, but with the usual flame effect pieces to represent his powers 

I knew that. I have near-encyclopedic knowledge of LEGO Marvel, after all. (Well that, and I saw said set at a local B&M and only stopped short of buying it when I saw the whopping $60 price tag. )

Hey, let a man dream; that way, when you’re proven right in a few months, it’ll cause me to only fly deeper into the Aslume (like a bee).

12 hours ago, brickbride said:

The Armor Wars movie is apparently dead according to recent leaks, good riddance. Maybe Marvel are finally wising up about every B- and C-lister from the Infinity Saga getting their own movie or series?

In other news, catching up on my missing MCU movies I've finally found one worse than Quantumania: Thor Love & Thunder. Yikes that thing is unwatchable, I didn't even get halfway through, just stared at the screen like WTF am I seeing here? And who thought this would be funny and/or in good taste?

War Machine is Iron Man with a gun; on that alone audiences would find him cool and would absolutely watch a movie about. I for one am sorrowfully disappointed we might not get an Armor Wars with him as the lead; a Tony Stark-led version would feel like a retread and wouldn’t hold as much emotional resonance as Rhodey defending his best friend’s legacy. (Basically Wakanda Forever but with Iron Man… and I really like Wakanda Forever.)

I haven’t seen Quantamania (nor do I plan to see any of the Ant-Man films, frankly), so I wouldn’t know. That said… it’s just another dumb superhero movie. Thor being a complete idiot at the beginning was in poor taste, agreed, but he sobers up toward the end of Act 2. Plus that fight on the shadow moon feels freshly ripped from a comic book in all the best possible ways.

First half is half-baked, second half is decently done. Sums up my feelings on Rogue One Love and Thornder. (I am by no means comparing the incredible, brilliant Battle of Scarif to “kids wield the power of Thor for the next thirty minutes” fight—although I would compare the death scenes of both to hold as much resonance.) So there, the hot take of a random guy online who can entertain the most idiotic movies.

 

Imagine if we got an Armor Wars-based Hall of Armor this March instead.

[brickbride]

5 hours ago, Swordy said:

War Machine is Iron Man with a gun; on that alone audiences would find him cool and would absolutely watch a movie about.

YMMV. To me War Machine is more like knock-off Iron Man without the personality. I think a surprisingly large part of the audience care more about charismatic leads than about robot suits, and were rooting for Tony Stark but would not root for Rhodey. How forgettable is his personality? Well apparently he'd been replaced by a Skrull for the last couple of movies and Marvel doesn't act like that's a big deal!

17 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Bruh. Until their TV-Shows, Rhodey had more screen time than both Hawkeye and Scarlet Witch.

Screentime maybe, but like someone has said, his entire brand was being friends with Iron Man and even then we never got any fallout from, say, Tony's death. It would be as if Hawkeye were only in the MCU as Natasha's best buddy and Scarlet Witch were only in it as Vision's girlfriend. They were always more complex characters than him.

Edited February 9 by brickbride

[Mandalorianknight]

15 hours ago, thebricksbear said:

Who wouldn't want to see a royal rumble with Crimson Dynamo, Titanium Man, etc...?

I'd love to have seen it... with Tony... in 2017... and ideally with at least some of the villains set up or at least SEEN beforehand. I guess you could throw Hammer in there but Tony had a bad habit of putting his enemies 6 feet under so there aren't a ton to bring out.

10 hours ago, Swordy said:

War Machine is Iron Man with a gun; on that alone audiences would find him cool and would absolutely watch a movie about. I for one am sorrowfully disappointed we might not get an Armor Wars with him as the lead; a Tony Stark-led version would feel like a retread and wouldn’t hold as much emotional resonance as Rhodey defending his best friend’s legacy. (Basically Wakanda Forever but with Iron Man… and I really like Wakanda Forever.)

Ironheart will be a good litmus test as to whether "basically iron man" will draw in audiences. Personally I don't think it's enough- it probably would have worked during the infinity saga, but the GA is much wearier about MCU productions now. 

4 hours ago, brickbride said:

Scarlet Witch were only in it as Vision's girlfriend

Just gonna add here I think Vision Quest gets cancelled too, for similar reasons. Much like Rhodey, I think Vision's had some great moments in more recent stuff, but don't think he can effectively be the main character of a project.

11 hours ago, Swordy said:

Agreed on all three points. I could see maybe the Pepper Potts head being reused, but MJ deserves better. (So does Gwen, but that’s another discussion.)

Yeah, I didn't mind it in the bugle since it came with plenty of new prints and I think they were used well, but a more comic-accurate Gwen would be nice. (I mean with a headband, not dead, just so we're clear.)

[NXS7]

12 hours ago, Swordy said:

War Machine is Iron Man with a gun; on that alone audiences would find him cool and would absolutely watch a movie about

Plus point; what's not to love about robots (or simply guys in robotic armoured suits) fighting each other. Especially for a younger demographic.

Both Iron Monger and Whiplash only suited up for the final act of their films, Stane was larger but didn't have any advanced tech and Vanko really just had better durability than before. A film about War Machine (a tankier Iron Man) fighting like 5 or more different evil Iron Men each with unique weapons/abilities would be a great watch

 

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Ironheart will be a good litmus test as to whether "basically iron man" will draw in audiences

I strongly disagree with that statement, even as someone who is looking forward to Ironheart (mostly because I really like The Hood in the comics), but if you look at Ironheart's debut in the comics, with the backlash the character received, I doubt the show will be much different

It all comes down to that four letter word that people love using for when a new character that doesn't replace, but follows on from an iconic existing characters legacy, but they either look different or have a different characteristic, such as sexual preference

War Machine is something of a different case though, as yes he's been around since the firs... well second Iron Man film, but he's just existed just fine as his own character. Rhodey only took over as Iron Man in the comics while Tony was battling his alcohol addiction. By the fact it hasn't already happened, I don't see the MCU trying to push for Rhodey to take over as Iron Man, but with Riri set to get her own show, the general audience would assume she's the one to take over Iron Man's mantle, as opposed to being just her own character, which echoes exactly how it happened with comics 

 

On a side note, I think Armor Wars should've stayed a series that, as it was planned to, shows Rhodey trying to protect Tony's legacy as his tech falls into the wrong hands, but then instead of giving Ironheart her own show, she appears here, having also obtained some of Tony's tech and teaming up with War Machine to take the tech back from the villains that obtained it. Have Rhodey be a mentor to her, and (very importantly) establish that neither of them are replacing Tony as Iron Man, but simply respecting, protecting and carrying on with his legacy

[thebricksbear]

We have a lot of story missing from Rhodey's interaction with skulls. Ironheart being part of Armor Wars is a bonus. Cheadle has definitely earned his own movie and has the chops for it.

Add in Justin Hammer, the fact that Stark Industries has been taken over by Damage Control, and the fact that nanotech and arc reactors are common enough for baddies like Crimson Dynamo (the real one), Armor Wars wouldve been sick. I'm not convinced the rumors it was cancelled are reliable anyway.

 

I dont understand the "would've been better with Tony Stark" comments because if either of them are qualified to lead a movie about international superpowers creating suits to rival the US's, itd be Rhodey.

 

[JohnTPT17]

7 hours ago, NXS7 said:

A film about War Machine (a tankier Iron Man) fighting like 5 or more different evil Iron Men each with unique weapons/abilities would be a great watch

The MCU isn't the Michael Bay Transformers-verse - those kinds of movies already exist, and a movie like that in the MCU would be really boring to me. Like others have said, the Iron Man movies work for me because of Tony Stark (or, more specifically, Robert Downey Jr). Neither Rhodey as a character, nor "Iron Man with a gun" is enough of a draw for me, and neither is Iron Heart, based on what I've seen of her from Black Panther 2. I think Tony Stark has a much more interesting story with his trauma than Rhodey basically being a blank slate who, to me, is just "Iron Man's buddy," or Riri, who just came across to me as "generic smart girl" - so, no, for me, simply being in proximity to Tony Stark and having Iron Man suits is not enough to get me interested in anything either of them would feature in.

15 minutes ago, thebricksbear said:

I dont understand the "would've been better with Tony Stark" comments because if either of them are qualified to lead a movie about international superpowers creating suits to rival the US's, itd be Rhodey.

Rhodey doesn't seem to really invent any of the suits or work with the tech - he just walked into one of the suits one day, I never got the feeling that he was tinkering around with it to customize it, or figuring out how exactly the things works. At least Riri actually makes her own suit. Though I could be misremembering. 

I think that, for me, Cheadle in general is roughly in the same spot that Anthony Mackie is in - he did a decent job as a supporting character, and I like them fine enough as that role, but they don't really work for me as a leading man and don't hold a candle to RDJ or Chris Evans. Before the CA&TWS show, I even felt slightly more connection with Falcon with his group therapy stuff - despite being in more movies than Falcon, War Machine basically had one nice chat with Gamora in Endgame, but not much more depth than that. That being said, I was really only drawn to CA&TWS for Bucky, who I felt like has a lot more depth, and not Falcon, and the show didn't really sell me on the character as Cap, or as a leading man (and I'm skipping Brave New World because of it). I doubt yet another TV show, this time featuring War Machine/Riri, would be very captivating to me personally. 

[Mandalorianknight]

2 hours ago, thebricksbear said:

I dont understand the "would've been better with Tony Stark" comments because if either of them are qualified to lead a movie about international superpowers creating suits to rival the US's, itd be Rhodey.

... I mean... I would have to say the one who headlined the story in the comics would be more qualified. Not to mention that while sure the movie could be different, in the comics it's not "US versus other countries", it's "Tony vs most governing bodies, including the US government and Shield."

Sure, you could, hypothetically, do armor wars without iron man. And without 99% of the villains having been set up. 

9 hours ago, NXS7 said:

a new character that doesn't replace, but follows on from

Objectively speaking Riri replaced Tony for a few years in the comics. After Captain Marvel beat him into a coma during Civil War ll she took over as the person in the iron man suit.

10 hours ago, NXS7 said:

I strongly disagree with that statement, even as someone who is looking forward to Ironheart (mostly because I really like The Hood in the comics), but if you look at Ironheart's debut in the comics, with the backlash the character received, I doubt the show will be much different

I mean sure, feel free to disagree, but for the GA at the end of the day it's a pretty similar concept, a project about someone in an iron man suit who isn't iron man.

I've been on the side of "disney needs to stop putting out so many MCU projects if they can't keep the quality up" for awhile and scrapping projects that clearly are having some behind-the-scenes issues and aren't exactly fan-favorites or major installments seems like a pretty easy place to start. Now I don't think RDoomJ is the correct answer either, but that's a separate issue.

 

One thing that is doing quite well, and I'd like to see in lego, is Rivals, which has had remarkably low player dropoff since launch. The designs are all very bright and colorful and would be great to have in lego form. Full sets anytime soon are unlikely, but I don't think it'd be impossible for lego to start slipping a figure design or two into the generic comic sets as early as january 2026. A new Spider-man here, a gold-accented black panther there, maybe some of the more dynamic redesigns or new-to-lego characters...

[THELEGOBATMAN]

Genuinely sucks we're not getting any sets for this. The most excited I've been for an MCU movie in a looong while, and each promotional material they release keeps affirming me that's it's gonna be really good.

Kind of painful that the moment we might be getting an actual good post-Endgame MCU film, Marvel is like "Nope, you're not getting anything for this."

[RobbieHxC]

Thunderbolts trailer looks pretty good! Feels like a missed opportunity for some cool sets and could have introduced new characters:

• Red Guardian
• US Agent
• Valentina
• Sentry
• The Void

Although Red Guardian was featured in SDCC during COVID pandemic in 2020, this could have been his first minifgure for the general public.  I wonder why this is the first non R-rated MCU film to skip a set with its release since Captain America: The Winter Solider 11 years ago?  I guess some of the recent MCU misses have caused lower profits for LEGO.

[JohnTPT17]

10 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

One thing that is doing quite well, and I'd like to see in lego, is Rivals, which has had remarkably low player dropoff since launch. The designs are all very bright and colorful and would be great to have in lego form. Full sets anytime soon are unlikely, but I don't think it'd be impossible for lego to start slipping a figure design or two into the generic comic sets as early as january 2026. A new Spider-man here, a gold-accented black panther there, maybe some of the more dynamic redesigns or new-to-lego characters...

Agreed. That game kinda came out of nowhere, but it seems to be really popular and doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

If we can get a wave of sets loosely tied in to that 2020 Avengers game, which ended up bombing, surely we can get some loose tie-ins for some of these characters which seem to be much more popular.

[RobbieHxC]

3 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

The most excited I've been for an MCU movie in a looong while, and each promotional material they release keeps affirming me that's it's gonna be really good.

Kind of painful that the moment we might be getting an actual good post-Endgame MCU film, Marvel is like "Nope, you're not getting anything for this."

Kinda tired of this "all post-Endgame MCU films are bad" narrative and herd mentality online.  Sure, there's been some misses since Endgame but MCU has always had misses. Thor: The Dark World, The Incredible Hulk, Ant-Man and the Wasp to name a few.

Do you really think none of the post-Endgame MCU films have been good?  Spider-Man: No Way Home?  Black Panther: Wakanda Forever?  Guardians of the Galaxy: Volume III?  Deadpool and Wolverine?  I also prefer Doctor Strange in the Mutliverse of Madness and The Marvels over their respective first outings, although I am likely in the minority here.

[BrickBob Studpants]

18 minutes ago, RobbieHxC said:

Do you really think none of the post-Endgame MCU films have been good? 

Don‘t forget Shang-Chi!  The MCU undeniably had some misses post-Endgame, but just as many hits, which people conveniently like to ignore.

The only project I outright hated was Secret  Invasion. Even L&T, Quantumania, and The Marvels had plenty of things I enjoyed about them

Thunderbolts* certainly deserved a set in my opinion, but I understand them being more careful now after they must‘ve gotten burnt multiple times. The golden age of every new movie automatically getting sets is truly over. 

Edited February 10 by BrickBob Studpants

[Mandalorianknight]

2 minutes ago, RobbieHxC said:

Kinda tired of this "all post-Endgame MCU films are bad" narrative and herd mentality online.  Sure, there's been some misses since Endgame but MCU has always had misses. Thor: The Dark World, The Incredible Hulk, Ant-Man and the Wasp to name a few.

Do you really think none of the post-Endgame MCU films have been good?  Spider-Man: No Way Home?  Black Panther: Wakanda Forever?  Guardians of the Galaxy: Volume III?  Deadpool and Wolverine?  I also prefer Doctor Strange in the Mutliverse of Madness and The Marvels over their respective first outings, although I am likely in the minority here.

Very few people are saying every post endgame film is bad, but I think it's pretty clear things have gone down hill. You named three misses in a decade. We've had a number of projects people would consider worse than those in half that time. The issue isn't that they're only putting out bad movies, it's that instead of 1-3 pretty good projects a year and nothing else it's become pretty much 1 good project a year and a number of low-quality ones.

Look at the projects that people have really liked- NWH, Guardians 3, Deadpool and Wolverine, and they're all feature either major Infinity Saga players or non-MCU characters. That's the other major issue. They can still put out a hit or two based on older characters and properties, but most of their new characters and setup-heavy projects haven't done well. 

3 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Genuinely sucks we're not getting any sets for this. The most excited I've been for an MCU movie in a looong while, and each promotional material they release keeps affirming me that's it's gonna be really good.

Kind of painful that the moment we might be getting an actual good post-Endgame MCU film, Marvel is like "Nope, you're not getting anything for this."

Always cautious at this point, but I also am looking forwards to Thunderbolts. John and Yelena are probably my favorite post-endgame characters*, so a team with them alongside Ghost and Bucky is awesome. (I don't care about Red Guardian as much, he's funny but I'm not all that invested in him, but also, like... I don't have any insider info here, but c'mon. The trailers could not be making it more clear where his story is going. And regardless 4/5 being some of the few people I'm still excited to see in the MCU is pretty stellar for me.)

*I love Moon Knight but honestly the more of his comics I've read the more I dislike the direction the show went, and I also liked Shang-Chi more than most people but they kind of just forgot he existed.

22 minutes ago, RobbieHxC said:

I guess some of the recent MCU misses have caused lower profits for LEGO.

Yeah, I don't think this is even arguable. The eternals wave shelfwarmed to an extent lego probably didn't consider possible for MCU sets, and we've had enough bombs now that lego's probably pretty cautious about anything that isn't featuring A tier iconic characters. For Thunderbolts specifically we also have the issue of "so what we all just punch and shoot?". I think the movie'll be good, but it doesn't exactly have a lot of colorful costumes.

4 minutes ago, JohnTPT17 said:

Agreed. That game kinda came out of nowhere, but it seems to be really popular and doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

If we can get a wave of sets loosely tied in to that 2020 Avengers game, which ended up bombing, surely we can get some loose tie-ins for some of these characters which seem to be much more popular.

Yeah. I think the 2020 sets were mainly because lego wanted to keep avengers products out there post-endgame, and while the game certainly bombed I don't think the loose tie-in sets did terribly. At the end of the day Cap/Iron Man/Thor/Black Panther/etc are pretty iconic regardless of the specific suit designs.

Ironically, Rivals is pretty much built for lego. Everyone's suit is bursting with color, there's plenty of vehicles (Spider-Crawler, Thor's Chariot, Fantasticar, etc), every location-based set they could do has built-in play features given the terrain destruction mechanic, etc.

4 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Don‘t forget Shang-Chi!  The MCU undeniably had some misses post-Endgame, but just as many hits, which people conveniently like to ignore.

The only project I outright hated was Secret  Invasion. Even L&T, Quantumania, and The Marvels had plenty of things I enjoyed about them

Thunderbolts* certainly deserved a set in my opinion, but I understand them being more careful now after they must‘ve gotten burnt multiple times. The golden age of every new movie automatically getting sets is truly over. 

I liked Shang Chi but the general opinion seems pretty mixed.

I don't think people are ignoring the hits, but it's moreso how many misses we've had in a short time. We still might get a good project or two every year, but it's not alongside a larger number of pretty rough ones. The MCU's lost it's sort of seal of quality- You used to be able to go in and it was pretty much guaranteed the movie would be good, where now you're really rolling the dice. And like I said, just as critically, the projects that did the best and people liked the most were the ones like Guardians where it was pretty much just closing out some major infinity saga players, or NWH/D&W where a major thrust of the movie is past characters not even from the MCU. The vast majority of the new characters they've tried to set up to replace the avengers just haven't worked. They appear to have finally figured this out, although instead of "maybe we need to make new characters people actually care about", the solution seems to be "let's just try to do a phase where we just bring back all the old characters since people like them", which isn't gonna get them more than another hit or two. 

[brickbride]

3 hours ago, RobbieHxC said:

Kinda tired of this "all post-Endgame MCU films are bad" narrative and herd mentality online.  Sure, there's been some misses since Endgame but MCU has always had misses. Thor: The Dark World, The Incredible Hulk, Ant-Man and the Wasp to name a few.

Do you really think none of the post-Endgame MCU films have been good?  Spider-Man: No Way Home?  Black Panther: Wakanda Forever?  Guardians of the Galaxy: Volume III?  Deadpool and Wolverine?  I also prefer Doctor Strange in the Mutliverse of Madness and The Marvels over their respective first outings, although I am likely in the minority here.

I haven't seen the Hulk solo movie but Thor The Dark World, while not great, was still way, way better than Thor 4. Ant-Man and the Wasp was actually the best Ant-Man movie by a large margin (which admittedly isn't saying much).

Like @Mandalorianknight is saying, the MCU has lost its consistent seal of quality. I'd also argue that it has lost its tonal consistency. Before Infinity War you knew that with a MCU movie you'd get fast-paced comic hero action with witty and flippant dialogue. These days you might end up with anything from horror influences (Dr Strange 2, which I agree was still one of the better entries) to slow and introspective (Eternals) to cringe comedy (Thor 4) to pretty much standard action movies with hardly any superpowers (Thunderbolts). So it's not really surprising that a lot of those movies are more divisive and/or don't meet the majority of the target group's tastes.

Plus, cohesiveness. Some movies like Shang-Chi (which I liked) or Eternals (which could have been better written but again had aspects I liked) are so far removed from the others in terms of setting, mythology, and characters that they don't really feel like MCU movies at all. I think it was the same with some of the more established MCU characters initially - the Guardians especially came out of nowhere -, but now the timing no longer works. Eternals and Shang-Chi both came out in 2021 and both teased a sequel that would presumably tie them into the larger continuity but nothing has manifested, not even a mini-series or crossover to another project. The MCU pre-Endgame had the occasional ignored plot hook but didn't drop its characters left and right.

At the same time the scope keeps expanding. Previously we had a core group of six Avengers that only gradually expanded, and were mostly based in North America (or space). Now we have movies set all over the world but whose heroes for the most part don't interact or even know of each other. And Marvel keeps bringing in large groups! Previously, the largest group of characters were the Guardians with five or six members and very distinctive personalities and designs. Now Eternals alone had ten main characters (not even counting the non-Eternals), there's the FF, there's the X-Men, and because of the Multiverse there's in some cases multiple versions of a single character! Are we supposed to care about all of them?

Basically, the MCU these days just looks like a disjointed mess where everyone (both on the production and on the character side) does their own thing, continuity issues are ignored (say, The Marvels following Secret Invasion), and we don't even have any real idea who the new Avengers should be or who'd lead them. So it's not surprise to me that people would go from "I'll watch all the movies" to "I'll pick and choose the few that sound decent on their own".

Edited February 10 by brickbride

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8 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Kind of painful that the moment we might be getting an actual good post-Endgame MCU film, Marvel is like "Nope, you're not getting anything for this."

I thought you liked Guardians 3?!

[THELEGOBATMAN]

6 hours ago, RobbieHxC said:

Kinda tired of this "all post-Endgame MCU films are bad" narrative and herd mentality online.  Sure, there's been some misses since Endgame but MCU has always had misses. Thor: The Dark World, The Incredible Hulk, Ant-Man and the Wasp to name a few.

Do you really think none of the post-Endgame MCU films have been good?  Spider-Man: No Way Home?  Black Panther: Wakanda Forever?  Guardians of the Galaxy: Volume III?  Deadpool and Wolverine?  I also prefer Doctor Strange in the Mutliverse of Madness and The Marvels over their respective first outings, although I am likely in the minority here.

The only movies I like out of all the ones you've mentioned are Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 and Multiverse of Madness.

And don't get me wrong—I don't think the quality of the movies itself decreased. The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2, The Dark World, Ant-Man and the Wasp are just as mediocre (in my opinion, obviously) as Black Widow, Love and Thunder, Wakanda Forever and No Way Home. There are very few MCU movies I'd call outright bad though.

I never said that MCU never had any misses, but the problem is that they've extremely quickly oversatured the market after The Infinity Saga. Before it, even if someone movies are not to my liking, I remember all of them in order, chronologically or release by month, how excited I was, and how it felt like it was actually building towards something.

The problem right now is that we're getting a ton of movies and series that disappear from one's mind as quickly as they appear. Instead of three movies per year we've been getting that plus twice as many series, without it actually leading to anything.

And I'm not saying that focusing less on the shared universe aspect is inherently bad—the opposite actually, which is why I'm so excited for Gunn's DCU. The problem is that they're trying to create the next big event (Kang, Doom) relying purely on nostalgia, without setting any blocks in places to support it and make people excited for it.

My point being, the first three phases were really well planned out and even if a movie was just okay or pretty bad, it still lingered in your mind. Now, a project of the same quality is magically forgotten because you're immediately onto the next one.

When will Shang-Chi appear next? Moon Knight? She-Hulk? Eternals? Kate Bishop? Ms. Marvel? Thor? Hulk? No one knows. How can one get attached to a character if they come and go without any news of its next installment, or even an appearance?

Which leads me back to Thunderbolts*—not only is the whole cast and crew behind it extremely promising, which makes me think it will be a very good movie by itself, but it also feels like the only movie naturally connected to the wider MCU since, granted, The Marvels, but before that... Endgame, actually.

Probably what I've written is less coherent than I hope it'd be, but TLDR; in my opinion, post-Endgame movies aren't inherently worse in quality (although they've had a few more misses), but the way they're building the universe is awful, and not only doesn't it make me excited for most upcoming projects (with exceptions like Thunderbolts*, The Fantastic Four, Wonder Man, and Vision Quest), but the universe aspect a whole with ridiculously horrible ideas such as the next Avengers movies, or awful messes like Blade.

[Lego Nostalgia]

10 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Genuinely sucks we're not getting any sets for this. The most excited I've been for an MCU movie in a looong while, and each promotional material they release keeps affirming me that's it's gonna be really good.

Kind of painful that the moment we might be getting an actual good post-Endgame MCU film, Marvel is like "Nope, you're not getting anything for this."

I strongly believe this film will be Rated-R, Sentry will probably tear Knockoff Taskmaster in half, only reason we're not getting a set I'd say, it's not yet been rated,budget is not that high