LEGO Star Wars 2025 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Rwbricks]

9 hours ago, CallumPears said:

100%. I'm trying to make customs of all the missing figures and I think Pote Snitkin is the one causing me the most issues since there are no official face prints that are a close enough match, and the only custom one I can find is from Engineerio which looks to be kinda mid quality and the only way to get it is to buy the whole figure at like $25. 

This head from the Build-A-Minifgure section at LEGO Stores could potentially work: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=3626pb3327&name=Minifigure, Head Alien Black Eyes, Dark Turquoise Eye Shadow and Dots, Nose with Tentacles, Dark Green Wrinkles, White Teeth Pattern (BAM)&category=[Minifigure, Head]#T=C&C=34

It’s not the most accurate, but it’s the closest I know of. 

[Lego Nostalgia]

4 hours ago, lego the hutt said:

It is partially YouTubers for sure but also, I think TLG has intentionally targeted younger and younger members for the Lego SW team and have given them a bit too much leash.

Someone needs to right the ship a bit.

 

I'm glad we're getting so much Clones, no change needed, years ago all we got was OT sets, Prequel/CW fans were starving after 2014

2020 made a big step into fixing that problem, the 501st BP was the best thing ever, however I got sick of the 501st after the specialist BP

I just wish they'd do more Legions like Kashyyyk,Wolf Pack

Edited January 23 by Lego Nostalgia

[Samppu]

23 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I 100% agree with the general premise that more aliens would be nice, but there were certainly aliens in Jabba's sail barge. Even if you specifically meant skiff guards as opposed to Max Rebo or Bib, there are three alien skiff guards in the set. (Technically chewbacca's in the skiff too but obviously that's not what you meant.)

Sure, the OT is "a product of it's time", but that if anything just makes it weirder that they're ignoring the human diversity that WAS present. The OT had a woman as the commander in chief of the rebellion, haven't seen her in awhile. There was a black B-wing pilot, be nice to see him flying his ship in lego. As mentioned, Lando's weirdly hard to get a normal version of. I don't think it's some terrible thing to prefer a set to come with the people on screen, and while the OT isn't bursting with human diversity (though it's got plenty of aliens as @Agent Kallus says and we rarely get them), there are at least SOME options, and lego for some reason ignores them. Even with the new canon stuff, we've had Sloane and that's it. If we're doing book stuff with Sloane, with Hoth rebels specifically, in the new canon Namir fights in the trenches, Howl's helping coordinate the defense, why not make them? Why not give us some sets with the Rogue One rebel troopers?

My point being there's a billion ways to increase human diversity in star wars sets and swapping heads on OT grunts while you can't get a normal Lando or Mon and we haven't had anything Rogue One in 8 years just feels like the wrong way to go about things.

And not just in the Lego. In the EU Lando is a main character equal to Han, occupying practically as much pages of the books as any other of the three (Luke, Leia, Han), but then when Disney decides to bring in the SJW into the SW universe beginning with the episode VII they bring every other actor back to their roles except the only black guy. The same thing goes for Mon Mothma. Desire for strong female leadership? Yep, ditch her out and bring Holo in. The list could go on even more, if we consider popular EU characters which likely would have made an impact on fresh audiences as well, like Mara Jade. Desire for intelligent and capable female protagonist? Yep, ditch Mara Jade out, and bring Rey in.

It makes me a bit sad that even with the premise that the sequel trilogy should have an agenda, there would have been so much better, or should I say so much more artistic, ways to include those themes... Oh Thrawn, sigh. Imagine if the sequel trilogy had included Thrawn as the main antagonist, and the same agenda we got anyway would have been built around alien racism with a setting of the sort that the Empire lost the Emperor and the Death Stars, because they were unwilling to use their best talents before due to discrimination, but Thrawn would now see, or at least try to see, a change in that, though not without internal resistance and troubles from the old school Imperial commanders.

And of course, there are those three guards in the barge, but they are hardly a reason to buy the set, so having a battlepack of Jabba's thugs would not affect the sales of the barge. With the cantina it might have affected, had there been a battlepack including the most interesting alien characters from the cantina set, because the aliens and characters made an important incentive to buy the set, which otherwise consisted mostly of tan walls. The barge surely does not have that problem.

Edited January 23 by Samppu

[Tariq j]

20 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

But the thing is (I go through this in more depth below) you can fit lando into a number of starfighters without stretching much, and since we've set the precedent for playing a bit fast and loose with what specifically an OT set is based on, Lando should be able to show up in pretty much any rebel or imperial vehicle outside of something like Luke's landspeeder where he obviously never interacted with it.

Yeah, in 2013(?). They included him in an A Wing fighter. And like you said, any single fighter/Rebel Captial ship based of the ROTJ could include Lando. And they've always had habit of putting characters into vehicles they didn't feature in (Queen Amidala in the Gungun sub comes to mind). 

21 hours ago, ArrowBricks said:

 Would be a great May 4th figure, shame it’s a bit too obscure. 

Yeah I'd love that if they ever went back to polybag figures.

20 hours ago, Swordy said:

 

A set with Brutus, a Ree-Yees, and SM-33 would be fantastic. No idea what they could do build-wise, but a man can dream.

I suppose they could do a the main pirate ship with Brutus, Jon with his mask, SM-33 and some ppirates.They could even do the Spa/underground temple from episode 5 if they wanted.

Edited January 23 by Tariq j

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, Samppu said:

Mara Jade

(Agreed overall on Lando just having a rough time of it in canon) MARA JADE MENTIONED. @CloneCommando99, where are you?

12 minutes ago, Tariq j said:

Yeah, in 2013(?). They included him in an A Wing fighter. And like you said, any single fighter/Rebel Captial ship based of the ROTJ could include Lando. And they've always had habit of putting characters into vehicles they didn't feature in (Queen Amidala in the Gungun sub comes to mind). 

Yeah exactly. We're overdue for a remake of 3/4 of the rebel starfighters, and even if you count the resistance A and Y wings it's still been long enough that it wouldn't hurt. Just slot Lando in the next A-wing. 

[Agent Kallus]

1 hour ago, Tariq j said:

They included him in an A Wing fighter. And like you said, any single fighter/Rebel Captial ship based of the ROTJ could include Lando. And they've always had habit of putting characters into vehicles they didn't feature in (Queen Amidala in the Gungun sub comes to mind)

Same could really be said of Nein Numb but they gave him one of special anniversary slots.

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, Tariq j said:

I suppose they could do a the main pirate ship with Brutus, Jon with his mask, SM-33 and some ppirates.

That‘d be amazing. The pirates were such a cool faction, both in Mando S3 and SC! Too bad all we got so far was the snubfighter. Gorian Shard, Brutus, Gunther and others would make for great minifigs!

But yeah, not having high hopes. Ahsoka was the only show so far besides Mando to get sets beyond the initial wave, and SC sadly wasn‘t popular enough to warrant more sets in TLG‘s eyes. It‘s a real shame, because the show was received so well!

[lego the hutt]

11 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I'm glad we're getting so much Clones, no change needed, years ago all we got was OT sets, Prequel/CW fans were starving after 2014

2020 made a big step into fixing that problem, the 501st BP was the best thing ever, however I got sick of the 501st after the specialist BP

I just wish they'd do more Legions like Kashyyyk,Wolf Pack

Judging by the complaints here and on other lego forums you are an outlier. 

5 years ago clone troopers were desired.  I give Lego credit, they listened.  Too much 😂.  It's saturated.  At this point it feels like we are getting clone troopers at the expense of other things.  Thank you TLG for the clones.  We are good for awhile.

[Darth_Bane13]

13 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I'm glad we're getting so much Clones, no change needed, years ago all we got was OT sets, Prequel/CW fans were starving after 2014

2020 made a big step into fixing that problem, the 501st BP was the best thing ever, however I got sick of the 501st after the specialist BP

I just wish they'd do more Legions like Kashyyyk,Wolf Pack

I used to be excited for new clones but the newer hybrid style is pretty bad in my opinion, I don't want to see what they'll do to the 41st.

[Swordy]

On 1/22/2025 at 3:54 PM, Max_Lego said:

Yeah, especially in ANH and, to a lesser extent, ESB 

Fun fact: the word 'democracy' is never uttered in the entire OT. Compare to the Prequels (also a product of their time).

Ah, yes, I failed to remember that fact when I made that statement. It’s funny, because I thought about that yesterday after I made that post. Regardless, as far as in Imperial ranks, my point still stands.

Sure, but the word “republic” is uttered multiple times in the OT. The two forms of government, though distinct and not equivalent, go hand-in-hand at least here in the U.S.. 

(Still waiting on a date for that Lucas quote about alien diversity.)

5 hours ago, Samppu said:

The list could go on even more, if we consider popular EU characters which likely would have made an impact on fresh audiences as well, like Mara Jade.

Alternatively, you could bring in the fan favourite EU character, Mara Jade. Of course, how could I forget the beloved Mara Jade as well? Oh, did I mention the spectacular Mara Jade? (This is such a dumb joke…)

You bring up some excellent points about the Sequels, most of which I had never considered. I have a lot of thoughts, but I’ve done enough to drag us off-topic as is.

17 hours ago, lego the hutt said:

It is partially YouTubers for sure but also, I think TLG has intentionally targeted younger and younger members for the Lego SW team and have given them a bit too much leash.

Someone needs to right the ship a bit.

 

We are definitely in the midst of a transition right now. Older designers have either moved on to other parts of the company or have retired altogether, while younger designers—closer in age to most LEGO YouTubers—have been given free reign. I can see this in the difference of build language between the 2021 X-Wing and Jedi SF and the 2024 versions of both. Some aspects of each design look better, while some are just a difference of taste. We do need new vision (case in point: 2014 and 2021 UCS TDK Tumblers are the exact same) but sometimes in the eagerness to showcase their handiwork they regress the design (case in point: 2021 to 2024 playscale TDK Tumblers).

To follow up on a prior conversation, that’s my main concern with the new UCS Slave 1; they might needless change what worked on the 2015 model that it’ll miss the mark. I haven’t seen this trend in the 2023 UCS X-Wing or 2024 UCS TIE Interceptor, but the Blacktron Renegade remake and UCS Sail Barge gives me some pause for concern. I don’t know what to expect.

Back on the topic of set choice, the similar age of the new design members to that of popular LEGO YouTubers is far too much of a coincidence. The admiration for clones seems prevalent in that age group. I can’t tell if the YouTubers influenced the new designers, influenced the corporate executives at TLG to choose said designers, or if this is purely organic. I just hope that next year can cater more to the other parts of the SW fandom.

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

That‘d be amazing. The pirates were such a cool faction, both in Mando S3 and SC! Too bad all we got so far was the snubfighter. Gorian Shard, Brutus, Gunther and others would make for great minifigs!

But yeah, not having high hopes. Ahsoka was the only show so far besides Mando to get sets beyond the initial wave, and SC sadly wasn‘t popular enough to warrant more sets in TLG‘s eyes. It‘s a real shame, because the show was received so well!

And even in the snubfighter, they put two somewhat generic nikto with the same face. Like yeah, it's more interesting pirates than just two humans or something, but when your captain is Brutus and you've got people like helmeted Silvo, Gorian Shand, Character Actor Alfred Molina, etc, two nikto feels pretty generic.

42 minutes ago, Swordy said:

Sure, but the word “republic” is uttered multiple times in the OT. The two forms of government, though distinct and not equivalent, go hand-in-hand at least here in the U.S.. 

I agree with you here as opposed to... what, the implication that the rebels are just going to turn around and make a new empire? The rebels were clearly good guys, and if anything, adding some moral greyness to them only happened after the fact. (Thrawn being an imperial leader who wasn't over-the-top "killing my men for no reason" evil, Saw becoming just a straight up terrorist) . There's no other way to read it besides the rebels fighting for freedom and therefore a non-authoritarian form of government. (Though as a side note, the democracy/republic thing is a pet peeve of mine in the US just because somehow no politicians know what our actual form of government is called, a constitutional republic)

50 minutes ago, Swordy said:

Mara Jade? (This is such a dumb joke…)

How dare you, sir.

[Max_Lego]

1 hour ago, Swordy said:

Regardless, as far as in Imperial ranks, my point still stands.

At least one black trooper in ANH is confirmed. It's safe to assume that there are more. Transitioning typical American issues onto a Galaxy far, far away is lazy, IMAO. That's why Disney's explanations on R1 are nonsense 

If the Empire is bigoted because of its refusal to recruit aliens into military service, that 'bigotry' is against the humans. Were I an alien under the Empire, I would've been grateful for not having to serve.

From an utilitarian point of view, humans also are the least fussy sentient species, that's why only they are being conscripted.

I always absolutely hated the idea of the Empire being bigoted against non-humans. It comes literally out of nowhere. The Emperor being a bigot is totally unbelievable, especially after the Prequels (even though I don't consider them Canon). People who try to write the Empire as evil fail because their lack of understanding how it really works.

1 hour ago, Swordy said:

Sure, but the word “republic” is uttered multiple times in the OT. 

But not from the Rebels.

1 hour ago, Swordy said:

(Still waiting on a date for that Lucas quote about alien diversity.)

Does it really matter? Even if the quote is from 2024, how does it change his point?

There is also the fact that more than a half of aliens from ANH didn't make it into the final cut. SW were about alien diversity all along. 

[icm]

@Max_Lego said:

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At least one black trooper in ANH is confirmed. It's safe to assume that there are more. Transitioning typical American issues onto a Galaxy far, far away is lazy, IMAO. That's why Disney's explanations on R1 are nonsense 

If the Empire is bigoted because of its refusal to recruit aliens into military service, that 'bigotry' is against the humans. Were I an alien under the Empire, I would've been grateful for not having to serve.

From an utilitarian point of view, humans also are the least fussy sentient species, that's why only they are being conscripted.

I always absolutely hated the idea of the Empire being bigoted against non-humans. It comes literally out of nowhere. The Emperor being a bigot is totally unbelievable, especially after the Prequels (even though I don't consider them Canon). People who try to write the Empire as evil fail because their lack of understanding how it really works.

 

First: Star Wars has always been an American fantasy by American filmmakers and crew. Of course it reflects mainly American issues. (Not to discount the many wonderful contributions by British creatives and those of other nationalities, but seriously - George Lucas is from California.)

Second: Anti-alien bigotry shows up several times in the OT. Threepio calls Jawas nasty smelly little creatures, the prison officer in the Death Star calls Chewbacca a "thing", Leia treats Chewbacca rudely and dismissively, Cloud City relegates the Ugnaught workers to the lower levels and lets the humans live and work on the upper levels, the Empire dismisses the Ewoks as unthreatening because they don't take them seriously, etc. There's plenty of onscreen evidence for anti-alien bigotry in the OT. Not to mention that it has always been offscreen canon, since the very earliest days of the franchise, that Han rescued Chewbacca from Imperial slavery.

Third: The Emperor is a cackling evil space wizard who runs a tyrannical evil empire replete with fascist iconography. Why is it unbelievable that the Emperor is a bigot too?

Fourth: Are you seriously arguing that the Empire isn't evil? WTF, have you entirely missed the point? If you don't accept that the Empire is evil, how can we take any of your other interpretations of SW canon seriously?

Fifth: I should know better than to get involved in internet keyboard arguments like this, especially since they don't pertain to 2025 Lego Star Wars sets. More complaining about too many clone sets rumored for summer 2025, less nerdwank complaining about SW lore, please!

 

[Max_Lego]

8 minutes ago, icm said:

First: Star Wars has always been an American fantasy by American filmmakers and crew. Of course it reflects mainly American issues. (Not to discount the many wonderful contributions by British creatives and those of other nationalities, but seriously - George Lucas is from California.)

First: it's about a Galaxy, far far away, a developed civilization that knows better than treat people like trash because of their descent.

9 minutes ago, icm said:

Threepio calls Jawas nasty smelly little creatures, the prison officer in the Death Star calls Chewbacca a "thing", Leia treats Chewbacca rudely and dismissively, Cloud City relegates the Ugnaught workers to the lower levels and lets the humans live and work on the upper levels, the Empire dismisses the Ewoks as unthreatening because they don't take them seriously, etc.

Second, Threepio, Leia and Lando are supposed to be good guys. People generally call each other names - it's NOT OK, but it doesn't really mean anything.

The argument on Ewoks cannot be taken seriously because how wrong it is. The Empire never mentioned them even after their surprise attack. It's safe to assume that they didn't interfere in each other's affairs and not expected to

13 minutes ago, icm said:

Third: The Emperor is a cackling evil space wizard who runs a tyrannical evil empire replete with fascist iconography. Why is it unbelievable that the Emperor is a bigot too?

Third: Evil doesn't mean bigoted

13 minutes ago, icm said:

Fourth: Are you seriously arguing that the Empire isn't evil? WTF, have you entirely missed the point? If you don't accept that the Empire is evil, how can we take any of your other interpretations of SW canon seriously?

Fourth: if you want the Empire to be evil - please, portray it believeably, not the chaotic, suicidal, cartoonish blood-sucking monsters from the EU and Disney canon. I never said that the Empire is undoubtedly not evil, I don't invite anyone to share my views on the subject, I am just tired of SW writers not understanding how to write an evil space dictatorship.

17 minutes ago, icm said:

Fifth: I should know better than to get involved in internet keyboard arguments like this, especially since they don't pertain to 2025 Lego Star Wars sets. More complaining about too many clone sets rumored for summer 2025, less nerdwank complaining about SW lore, please!

 

The same thing I am telling myself. I don't really care about Clones now, but people like them, so I don't see the problem. Also, people complaining about the OT sets doesn't inspire hope for me. The OT is the only SW that I really enjoy, but most people prefer Filoni's TCW. Who asked my stupid opinions?

[icm]

You've got your franchises mixed up. It's Star Trek that's the utopian future where people are supposed to have moved past bigotry, not Star Wars.

[wesker]

15 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I'm glad we're getting so much Clones, no change needed, years ago all we got was OT sets, Prequel/CW fans were starving after 2014

2020 made a big step into fixing that problem, the 501st BP was the best thing ever, however I got sick of the 501st after the specialist BP

I just wish they'd do more Legions like Kashyyyk,Wolf Pack

The only problem I have with getting so many clones is that we're not getting much else from the Prequels or Clone Wars.

2008-2015 had the right balance between clone army building and having a wide variety of other characters from that era.

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, Max_Lego said:

People who try to write the Empire as evil fail because their lack of understanding how it really works.

...like George Lucas? "The empire isn't evil" doesn't really gel with the opening crawl of the first star wars movie directly says "evil galactic empire". If you for some odd reason want to headcanon the imperials as the good guys, nobody can stop you, but objectively speaking, the empire is and always has been the bad guys in star wars. I don't know how this is even a question.

[Max_Lego]

7 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

...like George Lucas? "The empire isn't evil" doesn't really gel with the opening crawl of the first star wars movie directly says "evil galactic empire". If you for some odd reason want to headcanon the imperials as the good guys, nobody can stop you, but objectively speaking, the empire is and always has been the bad guys in star wars. I don't know how this is even a question.

Please read my post above. I already explained it 

1 hour ago, Max_Lego said:

Fourth: if you want the Empire to be evil - please, portray it believeably, not the chaotic, suicidal, cartoonish blood-sucking monsters from the EU and Disney canon. I never said that the Empire is undoubtedly not evil, I don't invite anyone to share my views on the subject, I am just tired of SW writers not understanding how to write an evil space dictatorship.

 

[Llewop]

Do Lego still use angry clone head for any figures? I’m so glad they moved on using that in every battle pack/set.

Do you think we will get more info about the May sets soon? I want to know what to expect from the U wing and any potential gwp that’s coming for May the 4th

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, Llewop said:

Do Lego still use angry clone head for any figures? I’m so glad they moved on using that in every battle pack/set.

Do you think we will get more info about the May sets soon? I want to know what to expect from the U wing and any potential gwp that’s coming for May the 4th

Not in the star wars theme, and realistically the print is probably no longer availible for new sets, but the Daily Bugle Spider-Man set from 2021 is still being sold, which uses that head for Sandman.

Not sure for the Andor set- it could be anytime, but they like to play closer to the chest with GWPs.

[CallumPears]

14 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I used to be excited for new clones but the newer hybrid style is pretty bad in my opinion, I don't want to see what they'll do to the 41st.

Yeah when I read rumours for the Marines and 327th I was like "yayyy two of my favourite Clone designs- oh wait they're probably gonna suck".

Even without the issues of helmet holes and kamas, the 2020 design was still such a downgrade. The legs are fine (I don't like that they'd still be inconsistent with my older figures but can't deny that they're an upgrade), and the heads are great (I bought 300 of them on Pick a Brick to upgrade all my old Clones), but the helmets and torsos are absolutely awful. 

Hopefully the Marines will escape most of the issues but they'll still have the belt, and who knows if that means they'll have the same ridiculous proportions that come with it on the regular Clones nowadays. And based on current Snowtroopers (which I also really dislike. Honestly there is an interestingly-large number of characters that got near-perfect designs in 2014 which then got downgraded in the past few years: e.g. Stormtroopers, Snowtroopers, and Hoth Rebels in 2019, and then the Clones in 2020.) they won't have backpacks, nevermind cloth kamas. They should at least have their pauldrons though (they could potentially reuse Fives's in black).  

To be honest the 41st Scouts would probably be fine since the only part of their armour which is shared with standard Clones is the kneepads, which is basically the only part of the new armour style I actually like. Though at that point I don't really see any point in them being made anyway since we got a lot of them in the 2014 and 2019 Kashyyyk waves and while they aren't exactly cheap nowadays they also aren't particularly hard to get hold of. Since we're already getting pretty saturated with Clones there are plenty of other things I'd rather have than what was possibly the most-common Clone figure from that era.

Edited January 24 by CallumPears

[Tariq j]

The AT-AT driver helmet has leaked. I’ve never been that into the helmets but it does look really good.

[ArrowBricks]

Unreal helmet, as expected. Not sure about the bottom part, but I’ll let that slide.

[Darth_Bane13]

It's kind of an obscure helmet but it looks really good.

[Agent Kallus]

Odd choice really. As was Boushh I suppose. Even within the OT I'd have thought Imperial Royal Guard for example would've been prioritised over the AT-AT driver. 

Did actually get my first helmet set recently, but I have no major interest in the AT-AT driver so this is an easy skip.