LEGO Star Wars 2025 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[BrickBob Studpants]

25 minutes ago, TeddytheSpoon said:

Did @BrickBob Studpants do some sort of number-crunching on the amount of figs we get nowadays? That might lend some credence to this little theory.

Not really, I only counted the number of expected new characters (or major variants) and new moulded pieces this year to drive home the point how much lower both numbers are compared to the last couple of years. The absolute number of minifigs is probably pretty similar

[lomis]

14 hours ago, Kit Figsto said:

I honestly can't keep track of the amount of new molds that exist today.  I felt like 10-15 years ago, it was a much bigger deal when new parts came out, but now, my only real exposure to a new part is if it gets included in a set that I buy, but half of the time, I think "Oh, I guess this is new!" and it turns out that it came out 5 years ago.

I completely understand this. I often am building a set and will point out a piece to my daughter, who 50% of the time will respond that she's already seen it in one of her Friends sets.

[Mandalorianknight]

7 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Mara Jade

CORRECT

1 hour ago, lomis said:

I completely understand this. I often am building a set and will point out a piece to my daughter, who 50% of the time will respond that she's already seen it in one of her Friends sets.

I've gotten to the point where I just bricklink search the piece when I think it's new and invariably find out it's been around for half a decade. I still look at the 1x2 rounded plate with open studs as if it's only been around for a year.

 

I'm confused as to why people think lego wouldn't want to do a star wars CMF, especially after the Harry Potter and Marvel ones. The amount of characters people are clamoring for is much greater than 12, and much greater than lego's realistically going to put in sets anytime soon. They could run three rounds of the series and not make a dent in the amount of minifigures that would borderline sell sets themselves.

[Meaf]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I'm confused as to why people think lego wouldn't want to do a star wars CMF, especially after the Harry Potter and Marvel ones. The amount of characters people are clamoring for is much greater than 12, and much greater than lego's realistically going to put in sets anytime soon. They could run three rounds of the series and not make a dent in the amount of minifigures that would borderline sell sets themselves.

This was my thought as well. There is such a ridiculous amount of Star Wars content to pull from for a minifig series that even if they just included variants of important characters from the Skywalker Saga they could easily get like two or three waves out of them. Like if Lego isn't interested in making any new Cloud City sets for the next couple years, they could easily thrown in Cloud City Luke, Leia, Han, and Lando. Even if they decide to make new Cloud City sets sometime in the future, there's so much other stuff to cover that a lot of new fans will have gotten into Lego by then and won't be able to easily get those minifigures (not to mention kids). And that's just talking about major characters from the original trilogy, with how few sets they've been doing for some of the other movies, they could do regular versions of the main characters and it wouldn't even be an issue. I don't think there's any world where Lego wouldn't be doing a minifig series for Star Wars if they were allowed to.

[Lordhelmet]

1 hour ago, Meaf said:

This was my thought as well. There is such a ridiculous amount of Star Wars content to pull from for a minifig series that even if they just included variants of important characters from the Skywalker Saga they could easily get like two or three waves out of them. Like if Lego isn't interested in making any new Cloud City sets for the next couple years, they could easily thrown in Cloud City Luke, Leia, Han, and Lando. Even if they decide to make new Cloud City sets sometime in the future, there's so much other stuff to cover that a lot of new fans will have gotten into Lego by then and won't be able to easily get those minifigures (not to mention kids). And that's just talking about major characters from the original trilogy, with how few sets they've been doing for some of the other movies, they could do regular versions of the main characters and it wouldn't even be an issue. I don't think there's any world where Lego wouldn't be doing a minifig series for Star Wars if they were allowed to.

Given how good cmf figures are they could do a bunch of remakes and people would buy them without needing to explore new characters or variants.  Think about chewie with arm printing, Han with side leg printing, Vader with specific movie prints, even a stormtrooper with arm printing (and maybe a better helmet).   Those would sell like crazy, and would make no dent in all the characters we want to see and haven’t before.  They could run yearly cmf lines and it would take a decade or two to start running out of characters or eating into other set demand.

[Per_SW]

7 hours ago, Meaf said:

And that's just talking about major characters from the original trilogy, with how few sets they've been doing for some of the other movies, they could do regular versions of the main characters and it wouldn't even be an issue.

Regarding the dearth of main characters from the OT available at the moment I checked the Italian S@H to see their availability in non-UCS sets:
Luke: quite easily available in the X-Wing mech. Don't want the pilot suit? Well, then there is an 80 eur Desert Skiff for you!
Han: remember that skiff? Yep, that's it for Han right now.
Leia: who? Oh, you mean the controversial one in the UCS Sail Barge? Nope, we're excluding UCS, so no Leia right now.
Chewie: also on the skiff, but if you're lucky enough you can get him AND a terrifying statue of him on clearance, if still available.
R2: Hope you like buildable droids, because the only non-UCS way of getting an R2-D2 minifig at the moment is the 25th anniversary display piece.
C-3P0: You're in luck! Here's ANOTHER 150 eur buildable statue for you!
Lando: *crickets*

The most available main OT character at the moment -ironically enough- is Vader either from the TIE Bomber or the Tantive IV Boarding, and that's something I never thought I'd see
 

[Mandalorianknight]

41 minutes ago, Per_SW said:

Lando: *crickets*

No, no, no, he's in the skiff! He's just in disguise. That clearly justifies how horrendous it is to get the OT main cast at the moment.

It's actually not as bad for the prequel era's main heroes as I assumed it would be- Anakin, Ahsoka, and Obi-Wan are all availible in sets under $50 (Padme's is $140 but that's more of lego's Padme aversion than general main character availability.  Impossible to get any villains, of course, though at least we'll have Ventress this summer. For the sequels it's of course currently impossible to buy Kylo or normal outfits for any of the big three (unless you buy the UCS falcon. So, nine-year olds who are growing up watching the sequels, you got $850 from your allowance? No?).

This is why we need some sort of A-level / long lasting set collection. Put sets we get frequent remakes of, like the X-wings and jedi starfighters, out there with the main cast of each trilogy and just keep producing some number of them for 5-7 years. Even if retailers wouldn't want to stock them that long, just keep them on the lego website.

[MKJoshA]

Alright everyone, the talk about a SW CMF series is getting dangerously close to wishlisting. Let's shelf that topic for now.

[CloneCommando99]

So let me get this straight? Instead of rectifying the fact that kids can’t currently access Han is his traditional outfit, any adult Leia, normal Lando or even Farmboy Luke, the LSW design team in their infinite wisdom decided to make 10 different variations of the same character this year?  Half of which have literally 2 seconds of screen time.

You know who I’m referring to.

 

WTH is going on with the LSW design team?!!

[BrickBob Studpants]

Between endless Clones and boring OT remakes, the former is the lesser of two evils to me  Kinda hilarious we’ve reached the point where people actually want a new landspeeder

[Robi-wan]

11 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

No, no, no, he's in the skiff! He's just in disguise. That clearly justifies how horrendous it is to get the OT main cast at the moment.

It's actually not as bad for the prequel era's main heroes as I assumed it would be- Anakin, Ahsoka, and Obi-Wan are all availible in sets under $50 (Padme's is $140 but that's more of lego's Padme aversion than general main character availability.  Impossible to get any villains, of course, though at least we'll have Ventress this summer. For the sequels it's of course currently impossible to buy Kylo or normal outfits for any of the big three (unless you buy the UCS falcon. So, nine-year olds who are growing up watching the sequels, you got $850 from your allowance? No?).

This is why we need some sort of A-level / long lasting set collection. Put sets we get frequent remakes of, like the X-wings and jedi starfighters, out there with the main cast of each trilogy and just keep producing some number of them for 5-7 years. Even if retailers wouldn't want to stock them that long, just keep them on the lego website.

You've got Maul in the Infiltrator.

[Kit Figsto]

14 hours ago, Per_SW said:

The most available main OT character at the moment -ironically enough- is Vader either from the TIE Bomber or the Tantive IV Boarding, and that's something I never thought I'd see

This is a point I try to make often when people complain about OT remakes.  Those sets aren't targeted towards the people who are into LSW enough to post about it on Reddit or Instagram, they're targeted towards the people that were either too young or had no interest in LSW when the last version of the X-Wing or Landspeeder were released.  

I've brought this up before on here, but when I was a kid, I first got into LSW around 2005-06.  The only set available with the main OT cast was the X-Wing, which was a Toys R Us exclusive, and was too expensive for young me to buy.  It probably took 7-8 years before I had acquired the entire OT main cast in some outfit or another.  I know that remakes aren't our favorite, but they are important to help out newer collectors.

[Per_SW]

39 minutes ago, Kit Figsto said:

I've brought this up before on here, but when I was a kid, I first got into LSW around 2005-06.  The only set available with the main OT cast was the X-Wing, which was a Toys R Us exclusive, and was too expensive for young me to buy.  It probably took 7-8 years before I had acquired the entire OT main cast in some outfit or another.  I know that remakes aren't our favorite, but they are important to help out newer collectors.

I0ve had a similar experience realising the first Chewie or Princess Leia I ever owned were both from 2018 sets, after coming out of my dark age in 2016, and I was buying LSW as a child at the beginning in the 1999-2004 span.

14 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

This is why we need some sort of A-level / long lasting set collection.

Also this, if that wonderful dinosaur in set 31058 can still be on shelves after 9 years I don't see why a set like the 40€ TIE Fighter, 50€ X-wing, or a Landspeeder like the one in 8092 can't have a 5 year lifespan.

Back on topic, I have to say I'm still somewhat excited by most of the coming system lineup, clone saturation notwithstanding, but I think this is the first year since 2017 that I haven't yet bought a new set, waiting instead for the eventual discounts to come.
Also, if the V-19 really includes Ventress and armoured Obi-Wan as rumoured it could be a day 1 purchase for me.

 

[Llewop]

On 2/12/2025 at 3:50 PM, Mandalorianknight said:

CORRECT

I've gotten to the point where I just bricklink search the piece when I think it's new and invariably find out it's been around for half a decade. I still look at the 1x2 rounded plate with open studs as if it's only been around for a year.

 

I'm confused as to why people think lego wouldn't want to do a star wars CMF, especially after the Harry Potter and Marvel ones. The amount of characters people are clamoring for is much greater than 12, and much greater than lego's realistically going to put in sets anytime soon. They could run three rounds of the series and not make a dent in the amount of minifigures that would borderline sell sets themselves.

I follow a page on Instagram where they go through new sets and show new pieces or ones that are recolours of existing etc pretty good imo think it’s called new elementary 

with regards to a CMF I always liked the idea of following the marvel one and doing a Disney + CMF so you know figures from Mando, Kenobi, TBoBF, Ahsoka, TBB, Acolyte, Skeleton Crew even that lot would take 3 series but could get a decent covering with them. 

I’ve been saying it for ages now with the way Lego is we all can’t be happy because SW is too big and too many eras and shows you just have to take it on the chin and be happy to save some money when sets don’t come out that you like 

[Darth_Bane13]

3 hours ago, Kit Figsto said:

I've brought this up before on here, but when I was a kid, I first got into LSW around 2005-06.  The only set available with the main OT cast was the X-Wing, which was a Toys R Us exclusive, and was too expensive for young me to buy.  It probably took 7-8 years before I had acquired the entire OT main cast in some outfit or another.  I know that remakes aren't our favorite, but they are important to help out newer collectors.

For years my only Han Solo was the one from the character encyclopedia 

[Lordhelmet]

Are the main OT cast projected in any sets this year?  Outside of the Death Star (which I can’t wait for pictures to decide to buy or not).

 

 

[thebricksbear]

On 2/12/2025 at 9:50 AM, Mandalorianknight said:

I'm confused as to why people think lego wouldn't want to do a star wars CMF, especially after the Harry Potter and Marvel ones. The amount of characters people are clamoring for is much greater than 12, and much greater than lego's realistically going to put in sets anytime soon. They could run three rounds of the series and not make a dent in the amount of minifigures that would borderline sell sets themselves.

I thought it was pretty common knowledge at this point that Hasbro has star wars action figure licenses and lego only gets around that by having buildable aspects. If that's not the case it's at least what I've heard repeated online and at lego events.

[ForgedInLego]

Since we're back on the clones bad discussion, I went to Atlanta Brick Con last weekend and I saw more MOCs of Geonosis than the entirety of the OT era

Does this mean anything? I don't know, but Lego isn't prioritizing CW just because they feel like it

[lego the hutt]

14 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Between endless Clones and boring OT remakes, the former is the lesser of two evils to me  Kinda hilarious we’ve reached the point where people actually want a new landspeeder

It's really not.

[Mandalorianknight]

6 hours ago, Llewop said:

I follow a page on Instagram where they go through new sets and show new pieces or ones that are recolours of existing etc pretty good imo think it’s called new elementary 

with regards to a CMF I always liked the idea of following the marvel one and doing a Disney + CMF so you know figures from Mando, Kenobi, TBoBF, Ahsoka, TBB, Acolyte, Skeleton Crew even that lot would take 3 series but could get a decent covering with them. 

I’ve been saying it for ages now with the way Lego is we all can’t be happy because SW is too big and too many eras and shows you just have to take it on the chin and be happy to save some money when sets don’t come out that you like 

I love those guys, but I feel like I somehow either forget or just miss enough of their articles that I'm still regularly surprised by pieces that have been out for more than a year.

Yeah I mean like the mandalorian alone could eat a CMF or two. Muddy variant of Mando, more accurate Cara, a S3 Greef, some generic mandos, Bill Burr (perpetrator of the greatest acting in star wars TV history), the Client, Pershing, etc. 

11 hours ago, Robi-wan said:

You've got Maul in the Infiltrator.

That is true. I wasn't really thinking about him because he's more of a rogue agent in clone wars than separatist aligned, but yeah, he works with the trade federation in TPM and regardless assumably we'd count Boba as an OT villain so Maul would probably count as a clone wars era villain.

8 hours ago, Per_SW said:

Also this, if that wonderful dinosaur in set 31058 can still be on shelves after 9 years I don't see why a set like the 40€ TIE Fighter, 50€ X-wing, or a Landspeeder like the one in 8092 can't have a 5 year lifespan.

Yeah exactly. It's a nice solve to both issues. (Plus they could do this for a clone battle pack, put like one clone of four major legions (shiny, 501st, 212th, coruscant guard), do alt helmets, and then maybe we don't need every other battle pack to be a clone one.

2 hours ago, Lordhelmet said:

Are the main OT cast projected in any sets this year?  Outside of the Death Star (which I can’t wait for pictures to decide to buy or not)

There is a Stormtrooper in the Andor set. That's it.

2 hours ago, thebricksbear said:

I thought it was pretty common knowledge at this point that Hasbro has star wars action figure licenses and lego only gets around that by having buildable aspects. If that's not the case it's at least what I've heard repeated online and at lego events.

Yeah I don't know why we're pretending that lego has the ability to do so. If they could, they would.

2 hours ago, ForgedInLego said:

Since we're back on the clones bad discussion, I went to Atlanta Brick Con last weekend and I saw more MOCs of Geonosis than the entirety of the OT era

Does this mean anything? I don't know, but Lego isn't prioritizing CW just because they feel like it

No I mean it's definitely not that the designers just like the CW more, it's perceived demand, my issue is just that I think too much of that demand they see is the youtube moccists and grey baseplate builders (people who would make displays at brick con) and not so much, you know, the overwhelming majority of children. There might be a statistically significant enough amount of youtubers and their followers army building to get the battle packs to do just fine*, but I think a full clone-dominated year is going to provide some evidence as to if it's really a clone frenzy among the majority of lego buyers or not.

*though I noticed a pattern where all the clone battle packs sell out and then are on permanent sale about 9 months after release, signifying frontloaded demand. The mando battle pack, on the contrary, is a set that I don't think sold out day 1 anywhere, but I also haven't seen on sale anywhere. It's anecdotal of course, but at least in my experience, the clone sets have initial high demand but hit significant sales after 9 months to a year, whereas most other star wars sets I see don't have that initial rush, but also are less likely to hit sales. I think in my area the Boarding the Tantive IV is frequently put to $44 for a bit and then returned to $55 when a few sell, but other than that I can't think of any sets on sale besides the born-for-clearance YJA sets.

And again, I don't think anybody's saying "clones bad we shouldn't get any clones", it's "we don't like that almost every set this year is clone/PT based"

Edited February 14 by Mandalorianknight

[Swordy]

On 2/12/2025 at 8:54 PM, Per_SW said:

Regarding the dearth of main characters from the OT available at the moment I checked the Italian S@H to see their availability in non-UCS sets:
Luke: quite easily available in the X-Wing mech. Don't want the pilot suit? Well, then there is an 80 eur Desert Skiff for you!
Han: remember that skiff? Yep, that's it for Han right now.
Leia: who? Oh, you mean the controversial one in the UCS Sail Barge? Nope, we're excluding UCS, so no Leia right now.
Chewie: also on the skiff, but if you're lucky enough you can get him AND a terrifying statue of him on clearance, if still available.
R2: Hope you like buildable droids, because the only non-UCS way of getting an R2-D2 minifig at the moment is the 25th anniversary display piece.
C-3P0: You're in luck! Here's ANOTHER 150 eur buildable statue for you!
Lando: *crickets*

The most available main OT character at the moment -ironically enough- is Vader either from the TIE Bomber or the Tantive IV Boarding, and that's something I never thought I'd see
 

Exactly. Great summarization.

It’s kind of criminal that the only Leia available is a prisoner outfit made to shame her. (At least, that’s the in-universe reasoning, right?) This is the same company that wants to make sure LEGO Friends and City are accessible to boys and girls; wouldn’t having one of the most iconic female heroes in a cheap set make sense?

14 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Between endless Clones and boring OT remakes, the former is the lesser of two evils to me  Kinda hilarious we’ve reached the point where people actually want a new landspeeder

Like @CloneCommando99 said, most of the new figs we’re getting this year have less than a minute of screentime. That’s fine for a one-off set or two (like Anakin’s Azure Angel from 2015), but even the boring X-Wing and TIE Fighter remake last year had no recognizable characters. To have Luke flying an X-Wing with Artoo, using sets currently available, you’d need to pay $226 USD ($110 + $16 + $100). 

By the way, the 2015 Azure Angel is how you do a set from niche, irrelevant media. Main character from a Star Wars film? Check. Main villain with a distinctive design from a popular TV SW show? Check. An easily marketable ship that’s essentially the “cooler” version of an iconic ship? Check. Even if a kid has no clue about either Clone Wars show, he has enough clues to inform him on the story at play.

39 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

a S3 Greef

They had two opportunities to throw him in a set—TWO. The Snub Fighter (which would’ve tripled its sales, I guarantee you) and the 4+ N-1 (which would’ve triple-quadrupled its sales, guaranteed). The legend himself deserved a third minifig. Alright, just needed to get that off my chest.

2 hours ago, ForgedInLego said:

Since we're back on the clones bad discussion, I went to Atlanta Brick Con last weekend and I saw more MOCs of Geonosis than the entirety of the OT era

Does this mean anything? I don't know, but Lego isn't prioritizing CW just because they feel like it

It’s not that clones are bad, but too much of even a good thing can be bad. It’s like with the DC theme—nothing wrong with all the Batmobiles and Batwings, and Batman is always popular, but we’ve not had a Superman until this year and we still haven’t had a Wonder Woman since 2020. Now in that case, Batman has been the only one remotely relevant, whereas with clones have been relevant when recently? Maybe Clone Wars Season 7, but Bad Batch wasn’t nearly the hit, say, Mandalorian was. Here we are, though: all clones, a smudge of Mando, and next to no OT.

The generation of adults who would buy LEGO are likely the same who grow up with the Prequels and TCW, true. “But think of the children!” XP

45 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

No I mean it's definitely not that the designers just like the CW more, it's perceived demand,

I personally disagree. Given some recent design shifts, plus a particularly prolific LSW designer moving to Icons, I could see certain designers who watch the folks like MandR joining the LSW team and going out of their way to “set things right.” At the very least, I can’t see the folks who said “Well you could double the Clone Commander as the pilot,” being the same people green-lighting a UT-AT with Galactic Marines.

[lego the hutt]

54 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I love those guys, but I feel like I somehow either forget or just miss enough of their articles that I'm still regularly surprised by pieces that have been out for more than a year.

Yeah I mean like the mandalorian alone could eat a CMF or two. Muddy variant of Mando, more accurate Cara, a S3 Greef, some generic mandos, Bill Burr (perpetrator of the greatest acting in star wars TV history), the Client, Pershing, etc. 

That is true. I wasn't really thinking about him because he's more of a rogue agent in clone wars than separatist aligned, but yeah, he works with the trade federation in TPM and regardless assumably we'd count Boba as an OT villain so Maul would probably count as a clone wars era villain.

Yeah exactly. It's a nice solve to both issues. (Plus they could do this for a clone battle pack, put like one clone of four major legions (shiny, 501st, 212th, coruscant guard), do alt helmets, and then maybe we don't need every other battle pack to be a clone one.

There is a Stormtrooper in the Andor set. That's it.

Yeah I don't know why we're pretending that lego has the ability to do so. If they could, they would.

No I mean it's definitely not that the designers just like the CW more, it's perceived demand, my issue is just that I think too much of that demand they see is the youtube moccists and grey baseplate builders (people who would make displays at brick con) and not so much, you know, the overwhelming majority of children. There might be a statistically significant enough amount of youtubers and their followers army building to get the battle packs to do just fine*, but I think a full clone-dominated year is going to provide some evidence as to if it's really a clone frenzy among the majority of lego buyers or not.

*though I noticed a pattern where all the clone battle packs sell out and then are on permanent sale about 9 months after release, signifying frontloaded demand. The mando battle pack, on the contrary, is a set that I don't think sold out day 1 anywhere, but I also haven't seen on sale anywhere. It's anecdotal of course, but at least in my experience, the clone sets have initial high demand but hit significant sales after 9 months to a year, whereas most other star wars sets I see don't have that initial rush, but also are less likely to hit sales. I think in my area the Boarding the Tantive IV is frequently put to $44 for a bit and then returned to $55 when a few sell, but other than that I can't think of any sets on sale besides the born-for-clearance YJA sets.

And again, I don't think anybody's saying "clones bad we shouldn't get any clones", it's "we don't like that almost every set this year is clone/PT based"

I was looking at a list of star wars sets released by year recently.  I realized 2023 was the only year I didn't buy any new Star Wars sets since 2007.  

The amount of clone wars sets is part of it 🤷

[Brickwraith]

1 hour ago, Swordy said:

I could see certain designers who watch the folks like MandR joining the LSW team and going out of their way to “set things right.”

I'm not a huge Mandr fan, but I find it strange how often people in this thread blame him and other youtubers they dislike as the reason Lego Star Wars is going in a direction they don't like. I know if I was a designer I would probably push to make sets I would personally want to get, which would most likely be stuff I grew up with, not just whatever a youtuber is saying. It just happens that Mandr and others like him in the space are in the same generation of kids that grew up with the prequel trilogy and clone wars, just like up and coming lego designers would be.

[MaximillianRebo]

4 hours ago, ForgedInLego said:

Since we're back on the clones bad discussion, I went to Atlanta Brick Con last weekend and I saw more MOCs of Geonosis than the entirety of the OT era

Does this mean anything? I don't know, but Lego isn't prioritizing CW just because they feel like it

Solid Brix finished up his large scale Geonosis MOC I think in the last month or two, so it's possibly a bunch of people jumping on that bandwagon, or indicative that the type of people who right now have enough disposable income to build large location MOCs and free time to bring them to conventions fall into the demographic that grew up on TCW. Lego set design has much longer lead times that just what's hot right now, but I guess they've got enough market research from the last 5 years or so telling them that a strategy of clones, clones and more clones is a profit maker for them.

[lego the hutt]

29 minutes ago, Brickwraith said:

I'm not a huge Mandr fan, but I find it strange how often people in this thread blame him and other youtubers they dislike as the reason Lego Star Wars is going in a direction they don't like. I know if I was a designer I would probably push to make sets I would personally want to get, which would most likely be stuff I grew up with, not just whatever a youtuber is saying. It just happens that Mandr and others like him in the space are in the same generation of kids that grew up with the prequel trilogy and clone wars, just like up and coming lego designers would be.

This was discussed a few pages back.  Younger designers on the star wars team is absolutely part of it.