LEGO Star Wars 2025 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Mandalorianknight]

14 hours ago, hikouki said:

Exactly what I was wondering. A new fig in a micro fighter (and perhaps a new mold) sounds too good. Perhaps more sets with him in?

(and thank you for not being like other posters who are snide without adding anything to the discussion)

I think it HAS to be a new mold, right? The old one's gone by now and I can't imagine they try to get away with a printed head and a hood or something. So yeah, like you say, I think he has to show up somewhere else, though I find it strange he didn't already. If lego thinks he can sell a microfighter (because 99% of the time now these are selling the fig, not the ship), I can't imagine why they wouldn't have dropped a $100 set with plo to get some sales off that, then put him in the microfighter for any plo fans who weren't dropping 100+ on the larger set.

No problem (though I think Joebiwan was just joking)- I'll make my joke, but I do my best to be polite when answering questions.

2 hours ago, Meaf said:

I'm still kind of surprised we aren't getting any other sets with Plo Koon in them. Maybe it's a tired guess but a Wolfpack set with him in it seems almost inevitable for 2026, seeing as they're the most popular set of clones we haven't gotten new versions of yet. 

It does, for no other reason than lego's recent choices I can only assume were caused by their hiring of Lama Su and Taun We as CEO and COO respectively, but it just seems to odd to do this out of order. Assumably it would be more profitable to have plo in the larger set first, then the microfighter, like Rex in the Venator.

[Samppu]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

It does, for no other reason than lego's recent choices I can only assume were caused by their hiring of Lama Su and Taun We as CEO and COO respectively, but it just seems to odd to do this out of order. Assumably it would be more profitable to have plo in the larger set first, then the microfighter, like Rex in the Venator.

True. Comes to mind, if there was such a set indeed being planned but it got cancelled? Or something like that the original plan was to make a full jedi starfighter, but then it got changed into a microfighter, because that price slot was still missing? After all, Plo Koon jedi starfighter would have paired perfectly well with the current ARC-170, which even has the background image from that exact scene in Cato Neimoidia.

Perhaps some love & flowers curator either at Disney or at Lego was hunting for things that could be cancelled and it found its pray?

Edited February 18 by Samppu

[NoOneOfImportance]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

It does, for no other reason than lego's recent choices I can only assume were caused by their hiring of Lama Su and Taun We as CEO and COO respectively, but it just seems to odd to do this out of order. Assumably it would be more profitable to have plo in the larger set first, then the microfighter, like Rex in the Venator.

Think about it this way - If LEGO makes Plo Koon's fighter in June, and a bunch of people buy that for the figure, and then they release a set with him with Wolf (or even just a desirable Plo Starfighter or something that people will also want), then they just made an extra $13 per Plo for the people who didn't wait. 

[Meaf]

7 hours ago, NoOneOfImportance said:

Think about it this way - If LEGO makes Plo Koon's fighter in June, and a bunch of people buy that for the figure, and then they release a set with him with Wolf (or even just a desirable Plo Starfighter or something that people will also want), then they just made an extra $13 per Plo for the people who didn't wait. 

That was my thought as well. Evidently they consider the clone commanders enough of a draw to make them the selling point of larger sets, so this way they're just getting some money from people who want him now. They might be missing a few people who don't care about the Wolfpack and would have paid $100+ for a clone vehicle with Plo, but I suppose they just don't think that's a big enough segment of the market for it to matter much.

[Rwbricks]

8 hours ago, NoOneOfImportance said:

Think about it this way - If LEGO makes Plo Koon's fighter in June, and a bunch of people buy that for the figure, and then they release a set with him with Wolf (or even just a desirable Plo Starfighter or something that people will also want), then they just made an extra $13 per Plo for the people who didn't wait. 

That seems very likely. I was actually in the same situation with the Boba Fett mech. I wanted the detailed minifigure, but because of the Sail Barge from the survey leak, I knew he would be coming later, so I decided to save the money and wait for the Sail Barge (which I didn’t get, but I got the skiff, so it worked out). 

[Darth Malgus]

I wonder if there is another D2C set we don't know about where Plo appears...

[BrickBob Studpants]

We‘ve had exclusive pieces (U-Wing pilot helmet) and exclusive characters (Tallie Lintra & an unnamed Resistance skim speeder pilot) in Microfighters before, so I‘m not sure why everybody‘s suddenly convinced there must be another set with Plo coming  New moulded piece are not exclusive to larger sets in general, and Microfighters and BPs are no exception.

The only argument you can make is that we haven‘t seen exclusive characters or pieces in a MF in a while, which is true, but none of the vehicles they picked recently would‘ve required one, and since there‘s only one a year now, there wasn‘t much of a chance for that anyway.

[Agent Kallus]

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

We‘ve had exclusive pieces (U-Wing pilot helmet) and exclusive characters (Tallie Lintra & an unnamed Resistance skim speeder pilot) in Microfighters before, so I‘m not sure why everybody‘s suddenly convinced there must be another set with Plo coming  New moulded piece are not exclusive to larger sets in general, and Microfighters and BPs are no exception.

The only argument you can make is that we haven‘t seen exclusive characters or pieces in a MF in a while, which is true, but none of the vehicles they picked recently would‘ve required one, and since there‘s only one a year now, there wasn‘t much of a chance for that anyway.

Mmm yes, but it would be very on brand for Lego to follow up the plo Microfighter with a large set that includes Plo and exclusive character like Wolfe. 

[BrickBob Studpants]

Just now, Agent Kallus said:

Mmm yes, but it would be very on brand for Lego to follow up the plo Microfighter with a large set that includes Plo and exclusive character like Wolfe. 

Well, I’m not saying he’ll stay exclusive forever, after all there’s nothing stopping them from inserting him into another set further down the line  My point is just there’s nothing to suggest Plo can’t stay exclusive to the MF for now. His presence alone does not suggest there’s another unknown or cancelled TCW/RotS set this year.

That said, he could easily appear in a 1HY 2026 set, along with some of his CTs, but that’s beside the point.

[Yperio_Bricks]

The Praetorian Guard will come with the LSW Magazine on 21 March in Germany.

[Darth Malgus]

3 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

We‘ve had exclusive pieces (U-Wing pilot helmet) and exclusive characters (Tallie Lintra & an unnamed Resistance skim speeder pilot) in Microfighters before, so I‘m not sure why everybody‘s suddenly convinced there must be another set with Plo coming  New moulded piece are not exclusive to larger sets in general, and Microfighters and BPs are no exception.

The only argument you can make is that we haven‘t seen exclusive characters or pieces in a MF in a while, which is true, but none of the vehicles they picked recently would‘ve required one, and since there‘s only one a year now, there wasn‘t much of a chance for that anyway.

I was more taking the angle that in the past few years MFs have used minifigs from other sets. 2 x Mando, 1 x Boba and Capt Rex and all the Venator shenanigans that ensued there.  It's a reasonable deduction based on the previous few years that there could be more than one application for Plo.

[BrickBob Studpants]

52 minutes ago, Darth Malgus said:

I was more taking the angle that in the past few years MFs have used minifigs from other sets.

As I said, we only had one yearly MF recently, so there’s a lot less data to establish patterns compared to before. None of the vehicles they picked needed new minifigs, so it makes perfect sense they reused existing ones.

Besides, if there really was a new (unwritten) rule that MFs had to reuse minifigs, Plo would already break it because the set is scheduled for June, and we know for a fact he won’t appear in any set before that

In essence, you see a pattern where there likely isn’t one. There’s no reason to assume they changed the “rules” just because none of the most recent MF minifigs were new. 

Edited February 19 by BrickBob Studpants

[Lordhelmet]

When can we expect gwp news for may the first?  Does that start coming out in March or April historically?

[Llewop]

29 minutes ago, Lordhelmet said:

When can we expect gwp news for may the first?  Does that start coming out in March or April historically?

It’s varies. We know like for icons in November what the GWP is for the Star Trek set but we don’t know anything about May hopefully will be soon 

[Darth Malgus]

5 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

As I said, we only had one yearly MF recently, so there’s a lot less data to establish patterns compared to before. None of the vehicles they picked needed new minifigs, so it makes perfect sense they reused existing ones.

Besides, if there really was a new (unwritten) rule that MFs had to reuse minifigs, Plo would already break it because the set is scheduled for June, and we know for a fact he won’t appear in any set before that

In essence, you see a pattern where there likely isn’t one. There’s no reason to assume they changed the “rules” just because none of the most recent MF minifigs were new. 

The order is less important for a pattern in this sense, however over a small sample size (3 years) it remains.

The Rex MF was new as TLG were at pains to point out in the UCS Venator set, I digress.

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, Darth Malgus said:

The Rex MF was new as TLG were at pains to point out in the UCS Venator set, I digress.

It’s a good example though  People argued that the Rex Y-Wing MF must mean a minifig-scale is on the horizon, based on the perceived pattern of MFs featuring vehicles that had minifig-scale versions before. Of course, they conveniently forgot about the Bantha and the blue Resistance A-Wing MFs  And yeah, still no minifig-scale version in sight for any of those three.

My point is that these are not actual patterns, at least not ones set in stone. A 2025 MF having a (temporarily) exclusive minifig is completely plausible.

[Agent Kallus]

11 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Well, I’m not saying he’ll stay exclusive forever, after all there’s nothing stopping them from inserting him into another set further down the line  My point is just there’s nothing to suggest Plo can’t stay exclusive to the MF for now.

That said, he could easily appear in a 1HY 2026 set, along with some of his CTs, but that’s beside the point.

I agree with all of this. Maybe they'll reuse him and Aalya in a Jedi Temple .

11 hours ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

The Praetorian Guard will come with the LSW Magazine on 21 March in Germany.

Nice!

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

My point is that these are not actual patterns, at least not ones set in stone. A 2025 MF having a (temporarily) exclusive minifig is completely plausible.

Real patterns or not; just because a precedent (unintentionally or otherwise) is set doesn't mean we should expect them to follow it. You're right. I mean while it's often with the sets aimed at non- Afols ( or Afol-Curious people) Lego does like to experiment with Thier releases. A supposed pattern is broken as easily as it's followed.

You never know Plo might stay exclusive but then show up in the magazine. Or he could be exclusive for barely any time at all and show up in the advent calendar. Or not at all ever. Or the leaks were wrong and every set includes Plo.

[Darth_Bane13]

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

It’s a good example though  People argued that the Rex Y-Wing MF must mean a minifig-scale is on the horizon, based on the perceived pattern of MFs featuring vehicles that had minifig-scale versions before. Of course, they conveniently forgot about the Bantha and the blue Resistance A-Wing MFs

That is certainly an interesting acronym to use for Micro Fighters...

[Swordy]

12 hours ago, Lordhelmet said:

When can we expect gwp news for may the first?  Does that start coming out in March or April historically?

So, for once in my life, I actually did some research.

It appears that first word of last year’s promo came in on February 11th. 

The fact that we haven’t gotten any word yet concerns me, although I suppose we are only a week or so off that date. My expectations for the GwP are as wide open as the reactor shaft of the second Death Star.

[Swordy]

19 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

We‘ve had exclusive pieces (U-Wing pilot helmet) and exclusive characters (Tallie Lintra & an unnamed Resistance skim speeder pilot) in Microfighters before, so I‘m not sure why everybody‘s suddenly convinced there must be another set with Plo coming  New moulded piece are not exclusive to larger sets in general, and Microfighters and BPs are no exception.

Ah, yes… the legendary Tallie Lintra and even-more-so unnamed Resistance pilot… Anakin Sky-guy could only dream of being in their shoes of iconicity.

Don’t get me wrong, I believe agree with your overall point, but that’s a pretty flimsy argument. All three you mentioned were made during a height of Disney SW, a time in which anyone from a recent movie, even Unkar’s thug, could get a detailed minifig. (Was he in TFA in any way, shape, or form?) The U-Wing pilot’s exclusive mold was an exception, not the norm—especially with TLG’s normally stingy policy on new molds.

(I’ll offer an olive branch, though, in the form of the P2 So-Shiny. Even so, that figure was just new printing—a redaction of printing, one may say—and didn’t feature a new mold.)

If anything, the move to include a brand new character and mold in a such a set informs me that TLG has shifted the line’s priorities. I believe microfighters may become a proxy of a CMF, like the 25th Anniversary minifigs were. (Cool how that ties back into that previous discussion.) As NoOneOfImportance said, anyone who buys the microfighter probably will also buy any set with Plo, so in the end TLG makes more money. As for those who want the figure but can’t afford the large set he or she comes in, then a microfighter can and will suffice (such as in my case with Kylo Ren, when I grabbed his microfighter in 2020 only to finally grab the full-sized shuttle last month). So, in the end, TLG makes more money.

6 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

That is certainly an interesting acronym to use for Micro Fighters...

Thanks, now you’ve scared me off from using it.

[MaximillianRebo]

7 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

That is certainly an interesting acronym to use for Micro Fighters...

He means Millennium Falcon right? ... Right? Sets 75295 & 75193 - the MF MFs.

On the other hand if this was Renown we'd all be speculating about the upcoming Palpatine's Arrest remake 

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, Swordy said:

If anything, the move to include a brand new character and mold in a such a set informs me that TLG has shifted the line’s priorities. 

You mean brand new minifig?  Because Plo has appeared in quite a few TCW sets.

Again, this is not indicative of any paradigm shift because no such paradigm can be proven to exist  The design team’s thinking surely is not “which ship can we design as a MF so that we reuse a certain minifig” but rather “which ship would do well as a MF” and then they pick an appropriate minifig for it. Granted, Plo isn’t exactly an obvious choice, but that’s still not proof of any significant change for the MF line when they’ve done things like that before.

Also, this whole discussion misses the forest for the trees. We know about every single retail and D2C set coming out this year. Regardless of what MF conspiracy you believe in, there is no opportunity for Plo to show up elsewhere, unless he nonsensically gets thrown in the MTT

1 hour ago, Swordy said:

Thanks, now you’ve scared me off from using it.

And I’m going to use it even more now

[Sucram]

Any updates on that big boy Death Star?

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, Sucram said:

Any updates on that big boy Death Star?

Not since the rumor it includes 40 minifigures, which I'm still skeptical of.

18 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Again, this is not indicative of any paradigm shift because no such paradigm can be proven to exist  The design team’s thinking surely is not “which ship can we design as a MF so that we reuse a certain minifig” but rather “which ship would do well as a MF” and then they pick an appropriate minifig for it. Granted, Plo isn’t exactly an obvious choice, but that’s still not proof of any significant change for the MF line when they’ve done things like that before.

C'mon, there's ABSOLUTELY been a paradigm shift. In the first half of microfighter's existence we got a ton of microfighters, most of them with generic pilots or soldiers. Since the line changed to like one microfighter a year, the microfighters started becoming a lot more about being a cheap way to get desirable minifigures. Boba, Mando and Grogu, Captain Rex, apparently Plo Koon. The last time a generic showed up in a microfighter was 4 years ago, in the last dual pack. When we got larger numbers of microfighters, they were primarily composed of generic pilots.

I don't need a written statement from lego to notice what was a clear shift over time. What's more, in a broader sense, I don't see any sense in regulating discussion and speculation to things that are concretely proven- it'd make leak season pretty boring.

Edited February 21 by Mandalorianknight

[Sucram]

There's no way a proper Death Star display set would come with more than like 2 figs like the other big sets. if it has 40 figs that means its a plaything, which would sorely disappoint me since I sold my 2016 Death Star because it had 0 display value.