LEGO Star Wars 2025 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[MKJoshA]

PSA, tomorrow is April Fool's Day. We might get legit leaks again, but more likely than not we will need to take any info as probable jokes.

[Llewop]

31 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Nope. We got that news January last year. I 100% know this because that’s what pushed me to join the forum.

Crikey your right have spent ages looking. This is why I hate it when things leak so early it’s hard to track. I still expect there to be leaks for the summer in terms of details of figure lists and features. And maybe May for the Death Star. We’ve not had any images for mays sets yet except for one pic of the U wing. Weirdly we’ve already seen the pics of the June sets

[Mandalorianknight]

48 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Nope. We got that news January last year. I 100% know this because that’s what pushed me to join the forum.

I can't believe you've only been around a little over a year, feels like you've been here for ages.

41 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I'd argue none of the original 6 Star Wars films are "safe", part of what made them good is that they were new and original. TFA just hopped on the trend of rehashing old movies to make money off nostalgia (member berries) and it's a big problem plaguing Hollywood today. We've had 3 seasons of the Mandalorian and it already feels stale, most of the episodes use the same formula. I just want something that feels fresh and original like Andor, we've had enough safe films by now. And I don't think they're going to win back support with 6/10 Solo type of movie.

The original three weren't, although Lucas's ex-wife was also a very important moderating influence on some of his crazier ideas. They also had nothing to lose for the franchise, since it didn't exist.

The prequels, being the first star wars films in decades, were always a safe enough bet, and Lucas didn't have any moderating influences on them, leading to a lot of his more controversial ideas. (Not to mention his plans for the sequels... as much as I respect doubling down on an unpopular concept because of your faith in it, "they go ant-man and fight the midichlorians" is one of the few story ideas for the sequels I've heard that's inarguably worse than what we got.)

Yes, TFA played it safe and focused on nostalgia, but it also wasn't terrible- most people I know consider it the best, or at least the least bad, sequel, compared to TLJ, which swung big with it's whole "subversion" thing and ended up incredibly controversial, or TROS, which tried to undo bits of TLJ while making some crazy moves of it's own and in the end left itself no one's favorite sequel. 

I have nothing against creative visions and making big moves, but as I believe you've said rather frequently, a lot of the disney era stuff hasn't worked, and this has damaged the franchise as a whole. Lucasfilm needs to build back goodwill with the general audience, and the general audience loves mando and grogu. In this case, it's better for them to play it safe for a bit, because at the moment their next big swing cannot afford to miss. Imagine if they'd made an Acolyte movie, how much that would have hurt the reputation of the franchise.

34 minutes ago, MKJoshA said:

PSA, tomorrow is April Fool's Day. We might get legit leaks again, but more likely than not we will need to take any info as probable jokes.

I know, there'll probably be lists saying clearly false stuff like that we're getting Jedi Bob's starfighter, or an Evil millennium falcon, or wait, this'd be funny, that the entire next year is clones.

(Jokes aside, how ridiculous- both intentionally and unintentionally- the theme has been is going to make it trickier to tell what's fake, so this is a good PSA for people to remember the date when they hear that we're getting a buildable Jar Jar tomorrow.)

14 minutes ago, Llewop said:

We’ve not had any images for mays sets yet except for one pic of the U wing. Weirdly we’ve already seen the pics of the June sets

I was about to respond "well, it's just the Slave One and UCS sets tend to be closer to the vest", but no, there's all that 18+ stuff. I honestly couldn't care less at this point. The dioramas were the only ones I really collect, and while I got the Midi Falcon for christmas and think it's an excellent set, I don't really want to start a whole new collection of midi ships and I don't like that they're cutting into my system set slots.

[Lordhelmet]

3 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

 

I was about to respond "well, it's just the Slave One and UCS sets tend to be closer to the vest", but no, there's all that 18+ stuff. I honestly couldn't care less at this point. The dioramas were the only ones I really collect, and while I got the Midi Falcon for christmas and think it's an excellent set, I don't really want to start a whole new collection of midi ships and I don't like that they're cutting into my system set slots.

Dioramas were my favorite to collect, but I do like getting capital ships I would not have gotten otherwise through midi scale (Home One, Executor, nebulon B, hopefully a rebel transport).  I would prefer we get one or two from each of the lines each year, like one diorama, one midi, one helmet, one buildable figure, maybe one other random or new type so the rest of the theme can be focused on play sets.  Getting four buildable figures, three midi scales, and then two helmets is excessive.  It would also help for collectors to know they are getting one each year and not have three one year and none the next.   

[Llewop]

1 minute ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I know, there'll probably be lists saying clearly false stuff like that we're getting Jedi Bob's starfighter, or an Evil millennium falcon, or wait, this'd be funny, that the entire next year is clones.

(Jokes aside, how ridiculous- both intentionally and unintentionally- the theme has been is going to make it trickier to tell what's fake, so this is a good PSA for people to remember the date when they hear that we're getting a buildable Jar Jar tomorrow.)

I was about to respond "well, it's just the Slave One and UCS sets tend to be closer to the vest", but no, there's all that 18+ stuff. I honestly couldn't care less at this point. The dioramas were the only ones I really collect, and while I got the Midi Falcon for christmas and think it's an excellent set, I don't really want to start a whole new collection of midi ships and I don't like that they're cutting into my system set slots.

Start off with a buildable B2, buildable grievous, buildable gonk droid and then a buildable R4 and 20 other droids. Followed by 4 501st battlepacks, a blue 501st venator system scale and blue 501st gunship and a 501st mech. I’m hoping there are some good fake lists but also some good news as well. 

I’m only interested in summer sets but May is UCS, SW logo, the ATAT pilot helmet and (don’t know if I dreamt this?) chopper right? And also the U wing. At the moment this U wing set looks like the best set of the year not that it’s had much competition 

[Flawless Cowboy]

19 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

The original three weren't, although Lucas's ex-wife was also a very important moderating influence on some of his crazier ideas

The “Lucas was reigned in during the original trilogy and he went mad with power surrounded by yes-men during the prequels” is a spurious myth invented by the likes of RLM and man children in the early 2000s who felt “betrayed” by Lucas. The JW Rinzler books, and videos by nerdonymous and Rick Worley on YouTube do a fantastic job picking this apart. 

[Mandalorianknight]

43 minutes ago, Llewop said:

Start off with a buildable B2, buildable grievous, buildable gonk droid and then a buildable R4 and 20 other droids. Followed by 4 501st battlepacks, a blue 501st venator system scale and blue 501st gunship and a 501st mech. I’m hoping there are some good fake lists but also some good news as well. 

I’m only interested in summer sets but May is UCS, SW logo, the ATAT pilot helmet and (don’t know if I dreamt this?) chopper right? And also the U wing. At the moment this U wing set looks like the best set of the year not that it’s had much competition 

Wouldn't actually mind a buildable grievous or Gonk, just... not with so many per year.

AT-AT pilot helmet's already out. May is: Bo-katan and/or Jango helmets, Kylo helmet, Kylo's midi-scale shuttle, buildable chopper, etc.

48 minutes ago, Lordhelmet said:

Dioramas were my favorite to collect, but I do like getting capital ships I would not have gotten otherwise through midi scale (Home One, Executor, nebulon B, hopefully a rebel transport).  I would prefer we get one or two from each of the lines each year, like one diorama, one midi, one helmet, one buildable figure, maybe one other random or new type so the rest of the theme can be focused on play sets.  Getting four buildable figures, three midi scales, and then two helmets is excessive.  It would also help for collectors to know they are getting one each year and not have three one year and none the next.   

I agree, and I mean look, even just two each and up the amount of total sets a tiny bit is up to me. I know shelf space is an issue, but they're breaking into a new market- it's not like half the lego shelf used to be reserved for unrelated items for adults- the system shelf space has been taken up by these. Either get some more space, or keep more of the 18+ stuff D2C exclusive or in places like Barnes and Noble.

31 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

The “Lucas was reigned in during the original trilogy and he went mad with power surrounded by yes-men during the prequels” is a spurious myth invented by the likes of RLM and man children in the early 2000s who felt “betrayed” by Lucas. The JW Rinzler books, and videos by nerdonymous and Rick Worley on YouTube do a fantastic job picking this apart. 

Aside from the fact that it's widely reported how much influence his ex wife had- she was an editor, it's not like she was just hanging around the film set, and major story decisions such as Obi-Wan's death are attributed to her- it also just... is kind of intuitive? Like, obviously the guy was more reigned in when he was first making them then for the prequels when the original trilogy had been so immensely popular and had so much staying power. (And, of course... we can hear about his ideas for the sequels and how absolutely insane they are.)

[Llewop]

11 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Wouldn't actually mind a buildable grievous or Gonk, just... not with so many per year.

AT-AT pilot helmet's already out. May is: Bo-katan and/or Jango helmets, Kylo helmet, Kylo's midi-scale shuttle, buildable chopper, etc.

I agree, and I mean look, even just two each and up the amount of total sets a tiny bit is up to me. I know shelf space is an issue, but they're breaking into a new market- it's not like half the lego shelf used to be reserved for unrelated items for adults- the system shelf space has been taken up by these. Either get some more space, or keep more of the 18+ stuff D2C exclusive or in places like Barnes and Noble.

Didn’t realise there were so many sets for May tbh but just shows how underwhelming they are though tbh as only one of them is system scale. 

I imagine we’ll get the gonk goat and Grevious at some point there aren’t many droids left that i think they can do and at the rate they are pumping them out. 

I think at some point even though it’s new audiences they are targeting the adult only sets sales will eventually cannibalise each other across all themes and not just in Lego shops but in Supermarkets, and other Shops that sell Lego. There are so many licenses now that a lot of adults don’t just like one thing. SW, Star Trek coming this year, Pokemon next year, Mario sets and even Mario Kart, Marvel, DC, LOTR, Harry Potter, Twilight, F1, Jaws, Jurassic Park etc Even outside the licenses you e got the botanicals, ideas, Icons, modulars, art sets not everybody can constantly drop £100+ a month or every couple of months on a new adult sets and at some point it’s going to be an either/or situation when your wanting to pick up certain sets not sure how long it’ll be before we get to that point but Lego have to be careful not to overdo it.

[Tariq j]

A brick built Greivous would be something I’d be interested in. I remember years ago they did a buildable Grevious figure as part of the UCS line but if they were to do him I wouldn’t a mind a bust of the head. But yeah, it would be nice if they weren’t putting out so many each year. 

11 minutes ago, Llewop said:

I think at some point even though it’s new audiences they are targeting the adult only sets sales will eventually cannibalise each other across all themes and not just in Lego shops but in Supermarkets, and other Shops that sell Lego. There are so many licenses now that a lot of adults don’t just like one thing. SW, Star Trek coming this year, Pokemon next year, Mario sets and even Mario Kart, Marvel, DC, LOTR, Harry Potter, Twilight, F1, Jaws, Jurassic Park etc Even outside the licenses you e got the botanicals, ideas, Icons, modulars, art sets not everybody can constantly drop £100+ a month or every couple of months on a new adult sets and at some point it’s going to be an either/or situation when your wanting to pick up certain sets not sure how long it’ll be before we get to that point but Lego have to be careful not to overdo it.

Yes I do wonder whether we’ll reach a period of over-saturation. 

[Flawless Cowboy]

3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Aside from the fact that it's widely reported

This kind of vague language is precisely why this myth persisted for so long. After all, the implication here is that the prequels didn’t have rigorous editing like the originals, or that the magical editing of the originals was mainly the work of Marcia. And the reason people so readily believe that is because the originals were much more well received, so it must have been those pesky yes men. Again, thoroughly debunked. Rinzler’s books and first-hand accounts on set should be the primary source of information, there isn’t a more in-depth analysis of the Star Wars behind the scenes process. 

Edited April 1 by Flawless Cowboy

[Mandalorianknight]

7 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

This kind of vague language is precisely why this myth persisted for so long. After all, the implication here is that the prequels didn’t have rigorous editing like the originals, or that the magical editing of the originals was mainly the work of Marcia. And the reason people so readily believe that is because the originals were much more well received, so it must have been those pesky yes men. Again, thoroughly debunked. Rinzler’s books and first-hand accounts on set should be the primary source of information, there isn’t a more in-depth analysis of the Star Wars behind the scenes process. 

What are you disputing? Are you denying she had influence on the films? That Obi-Wan's death was her idea? I'll add that she cried after TPM because of how bad she thought it was, so to recap, we have:

Fact 1: Marcia Lucas had major influence on the original trilogy and was the reason for major story decisions. She was involved in and the reason for major story decisions such as Obi-Wan's death and the subsequent basis for force ghosts through her referral that he serve as a "spirit guide" for Luke after his death. (Source: Literally the credits of ANH and ROTJ, the Icons Unearthed documentary series interview with Marcia herself- quotes include "I said, What if Darth Vader kills Obi-Wan Kenobi? And Obi-Wan Kenobi disintegrates while they're escaping?" and then in reference to the script having Obi-Wan talk Luke through the trench run over the comms "He can still say all that stuff he needs to say to Luke!". She also makes a large number of smaller but still impactful changes, such as making it so Luke only gets one pass at the trench run rather than trying a few times, changing the Obi-Wan's hut scenes to go lightsaber talk- leia message- go save leia instead of leia message- pause to show off lightsaber- go save leia. In addition, Mark Hamill himself stated in an interview "She was really the warmth and the heart of those films, a good person he could talk to, bounce ideas off of, who would tell him when he was wrong.”)

Fact 2: Marcia Lucas thought the Phantom Menace was really bad. She had major issues with Phantom Menace. (Source: Howard Kazanjian: A Producer's life, in which Marcia Lucas states that after seeing TPM, "I remember going out to the parking lot, sitting in my car, and crying. I cried. I cried because I didn't think it was very good." (And then she goes on to complain about the CGI, the Anakin/Padme age gap and other common criticisms))

From this, the conclusion that the prequels would be somewhat different movies had she still been around seems pretty much inarguable, right? 

That's all fairly off topic, but don't come at me like I'm spouting some debunked concept. It's a pretty simple inference to make.

3 hours ago, Tariq j said:

A brick built Greivous would be something I’d be interested in. I remember years ago they did a buildable Grevious figure as part of the UCS line but if they were to do him I wouldn’t a mind a bust of the head. But yeah, it would be nice if they weren’t putting out so many each year. 

Yes I do wonder whether we’ll reach a period of over-saturation. 

Same. Which is part of why the 18+ oversaturation is a shame- there are a lot of good options, they're just putting out a flood of them, a number of which are subpar.

I think we're already there. I know at the very least me and most of my friends who collect have skipped a number of 18+ sets we'd otherwise have bought just because we don't have the money/space.

3 hours ago, Llewop said:

Didn’t realise there were so many sets for May tbh but just shows how underwhelming they are though tbh as only one of them is system scale. 

I imagine we’ll get the gonk goat and Grevious at some point there aren’t many droids left that i think they can do and at the rate they are pumping them out.

Yup- and here's the thing- I'm perfectly fine with all the May 4 sets being 18+. It's even part of my plan for how I think lego should be ordering waves. But when it's 90% of the may wave, half the January wave, and a chunk of the august wave....

[Flawless Cowboy]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

What are you disputing? Are you denying she had influence on the films?

Nope, I never said this. I very clearly said that there is a misconception that Marcia was the main reason the originals were well received and that her absence was the reason the prequels were not. The “Star Wars was saved in the edit!” claims were dismissed by Marcia herself. Would the prequels have been different with her presence? Sure. Would they have been better? Not necessarily, why? Because she didn’t like TPM? Because her work was very well received once upon a time? This is a fruitless rabbit hole to go down. 
 

This ties to the greater misconception that Lucas received special pushback during the original trilogy filming that was absent during the prequel trilogy. “Lucas didn’t have any moderating influences” is your quote, and it is patently false and baseless. 

Edited April 1 by Flawless Cowboy

[Flawless Cowboy]

To be back on topic, I wonder at what point Lego will decide to scale down their pricing, they’re the only major toy manufacturer who grew in 2024. It seems they’re trying to position themselves as a luxury toy on par with something like hot toys. 

Edited April 1 by Flawless Cowboy

[Swordy]

6 hours ago, Llewop said:

not everybody can constantly drop £100+ a month or every couple of months on a new adult sets and at some point it’s going to be an either/or situation when your wanting to pick up certain sets not sure how long it’ll be before we get to that point but Lego have to be careful not to overdo it.

That’s the problem with making a product too niche. You may generate sales at the start, and may hook people into being familiarized with LEGO, but you lose the average folk. I believe the assumption TLG is banking on is if they can tap enough people into the fold, and entice them with other niche products in order to sustain them. We watching a toy company reinvent their brand into an adult collector’s market, and it dissapoints me.

1 hour ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

To be back on topic, I wonder at what point Lego will decide to scale down their pricing, they’re the only major toy manufacturer who grew in 2024. It seems they’re trying to position themselves as a luxury toy on par with something like hot toys. 

They may try to position themselves that way, but I believe the cutbacks in quality and the increase of prices are the true reason they still grew in revenue. Hot Toys seemingly haven’t done that, although I wouldn’t know anyway.

Of course, if they really are trying to fix the numbers like they seem to be, that might mean their push into the adult market has been unsuccessful so far. TLG might make a few fans with a Twilight house here and a Titanic set there, but continuing to upset and ignore their core fans, the loyal AFoLs, the foundation of their profits, will only end in a crumbled structure once those fans dissipate. If TLG truly has become a monopoly in the plastic-construction market, then we know that they only last so long before they are disrupted by competition or the courts. For LSW fans, though, no other company owns the SW IP, so TLG holds the power to raise prices however high they wish. However, they would be foolish to go further than we allow them to go. Keep voting with your wallets, people.

 

 

“Careful, you’re going off-topic.”

Chancellor, going off-topic is my specialty. (Sorry.)

1 hour ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

This ties to the greater misconception that Lucas received special pushback during the original trilogy filming that was absent during the prequel trilogy.

Would you deny the story of George showing the original cut of Star Wars, one without the John Williams music and two Luke Skywalker-led trench runs, to a couple of his friends, and only Spielberg, a close friend of George, being the only one to see the vision that would only be realized after multiple editing decisions? Would you deny the multiple writers credited for both Empire and Jedi? (No, I’m not speaking of Leigh Brackett’s minute impact on Ep. V, but a second opinion is a second opinion.) Would you deny the sheer lack of additional writers for the Prequels, aside from Johnathan Hales, a television writer for Young Indy Chronicles who, according to Rick McCallum, was one of many at Lucasfilm on Young Indy that worshipped George?

You can’t deny that the Prequels are less well-received, and objectively-speaking worse films than the Originals. That comes from a lot of factors, poor directing, unrealistic dialogue, passive acting (however intentional or not, yes), and static blue screens included, but a lack of criticism and pushback surrounding him could’ve helped all of that. George hated working with people “who didn’t get his vision,” (to paraphrase,) he’s very protective over his characters and world, and so he naturally winds up with a lot of yes-men. He’s Anakin in every metaphorical sense, who sells his soul and burns his relationships to build an empire where he rules with absolute power.

 

As for the wider discussion on “playing it safe,” it differs from film to film, franchise to franchise. The overall goal is to build upon the original ideas and tenets, never to destroy or mock. TFA does this, literally so with the idea of another DS, takes into account the emotional impact of losing the father figure as well as fighting the one who killed said father, and combines all of that. It’s the ultimate amalgamation of Star Wars up until that point, while keeping a freshness thanks in no small part to the fresh-eyed actors on camera. Compare this to Last Jedi, who literally wanted to throw away the legacy of SW fanaticism in an attempt to return to the core roots of SW… without recognizing what the core roots of SW are. (To start with, the Balance of the Force according to George is vastly different than Rian’s interpretation.)

For TM&G, at this point it seems it’ll be rehashing plot beats from TCW movie and Mando, features the same cast and not much change in scenery. How it may innovate and how it may become a hit with audiences, fans of Mando already or not, will be up to how the original creative can stick to the original theme of the original successful series yet reinterpreting them, not outright remaking those elements.

Edited April 1 by Swordy

[MKJoshA]

Wow, I expected some interesting discussion on April 1st, but a debate about Maria Lucas and yes-men on set was not on my list. It's very off topic. It's a great discussion, but it needs its own topic.

[Virginia_Bricks]

8 hours ago, Swordy said:

They may try to position themselves that way, but I believe the cutbacks in quality and the increase of prices are the true reason they still grew in revenue. Hot Toys seemingly haven’t done that, although I wouldn’t know anyway.

Cut backs in quality would not impact revenues, but costs. And Lego's profit margins actually went down last year, so even if they are cutting back on quality they are spending more per dollar to produce the sets in revenue than they have before. Paying designers and producing the bricks is a lot more expensive than some like to admit here.

And Lego also has plenty of affordable licensed and unlicensed themes. And new themes to for younger audiences (Bluey, Animal Crossing, etc..). It is just that Star Wars is moving away from that because the average consumer there is different than it was 10 years ago.

[ARC2149Nova]

18 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I'd argue none of the original 6 Star Wars films are "safe", part of what made them good is that they were new and original. TFA just hopped on the trend of rehashing old movies to make money off nostalgia (member berries) and it's a big problem plaguing Hollywood today. We've had 3 seasons of the Mandalorian and it already feels stale, most of the episodes use the same formula. I just want something that feels fresh and original like Andor, we've had enough safe films by now. And I don't think they're going to win back support with 6/10 Solo type of movie.

This. Some of the best Star Wars content took risks with the established formula and mythos. I hate to be that guy, but reading the Dark Horse comics, they are great because of the original characters, self-contained stories, and very minor intercepts to the main storyline. Star Wars is a big universe, not everyone has to know everyone else.

[Darth_Bane13]

17 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

The original three weren't, although Lucas's ex-wife was also a very important moderating influence on some of his crazier ideas. They also had nothing to lose for the franchise, since it didn't exist.

The prequels, being the first star wars films in decades, were always a safe enough bet, and Lucas didn't have any moderating influences on them, leading to a lot of his more controversial ideas. (Not to mention his plans for the sequels... as much as I respect doubling down on an unpopular concept because of your faith in it, "they go ant-man and fight the midichlorians" is one of the few story ideas for the sequels I've heard that's inarguably worse than what we got.)

Yes, TFA played it safe and focused on nostalgia, but it also wasn't terrible- most people I know consider it the best, or at least the least bad, sequel, compared to TLJ, which swung big with it's whole "subversion" thing and ended up incredibly controversial, or TROS, which tried to undo bits of TLJ while making some crazy moves of it's own and in the end left itself no one's favorite sequel. 

I have nothing against creative visions and making big moves, but as I believe you've said rather frequently, a lot of the disney era stuff hasn't worked, and this has damaged the franchise as a whole. Lucasfilm needs to build back goodwill with the general audience, and the general audience loves mando and grogu. In this case, it's better for them to play it safe for a bit, because at the moment their next big swing cannot afford to miss. Imagine if they'd made an Acolyte movie, how much that would have hurt the reputation of the franchise.

At this point I literally don't think they can make the reputation of the franchise any worse, most people see Star Wars as a joke now. A lot of people stopped caring after the sequels and they're going to need a serious heavy hitter to bring them back. I don't think most will care enough to see a generic 6/10 Mando and Grogu movie after season 3, maybe had they used the hype coming off season 2 it could have worked. 

[Mandalorianknight]

I'll stop defending my point on the Lucas thing (though as always, my best argument is once more just waiting for @Swordy to explain it better than I could), but from what I see the "playing it safe" discussion hasn't been shut down yet?

 

1 hour ago, ARC2149Nova said:

This. Some of the best Star Wars content took risks with the established formula and mythos. I hate to be that guy, but reading the Dark Horse comics, they are great because of the original characters, self-contained stories, and very minor intercepts to the main storyline. Star Wars is a big universe, not everyone has to know everyone else.

I want to make clear I'm not saying star wars should always play it safe, I'm just saying it's what the franchise needs right now.  Right now if they start a new trilogy or something, it's going to get a lot of instinctive backlash from fans who are fed up with the sequels and many of the shows, and the general audience just doesn't have a high enough opinion of the franchise to come out for something new after losses like Acolyte and, from a film perspective, the sequels. If they take the next few years and play out with just what they know should do well/be well received (And this seems to be the case- IIRC the only live action projects that are actually in full production are Andor S2-which I guess is done with production but you get it- TMAG, and Ahsoka S2, which I know some people didn't like but putting aside my selfish love for it, it is a Filoni project and at least it didn't have Kenobi or god forbid Acolyte level reception), they can build back some goodwill (and from the executive perspective, stuff like TMAG is pretty much guaranteed to turn a profit) before moving to the next big new thing. (KOTOR, KOTOR, KOTOR. Doesn't even have to be an adaption of those characters, just bring us into that era)

39 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

At this point I literally don't think they can make the reputation of the franchise any worse, most people see Star Wars as a joke now. A lot of people stopped caring after the sequels and they're going to need a serious heavy hitter to bring them back. I don't think most will care enough to see a generic 6/10 Mando and Grogu movie after season 3, maybe had they used the hype coming off season 2 it could have worked. 

But you see, this is exactly why I think TMAG is needed. You say it can't get any worse, but I assume you felt similarly after the sequels but before Acolyte. They've done big stories, and while people don't like to hear it, their most successful one with the general audience was Mando, which played things pretty safe. They try an Old Republic trilogy or something right now, I don't think the GA shows up. They bring mando to the big screen, maybe don't make a billion dollars but at least turn a profit and get the general audience going "ok, that was a fun little adventure, I can get behind that"? They're in a better position to start the Kotor saga (again just an example- they could do a New Beyond saga or a saga set a hundred years after or what have you) in 2029.

I guess another way I'd put it is, which movie do you think would do better in theatres next year: TMAG, or the Rey movie? (Nothing against Daisy Ridley, who I think did a fine job, and Rey herself isn't much worse than any other SW main protagonists, but she is the main character of some pretty controversial movies.)

 

As far as this relates to lego, no matter what choice Lucasfilm made I refuse to believe we wouldn't still get sets for a star wars movie, but with TMAG we can all safely assume we'll be getting a solid wave of sets. A new Razor Crest, an AT-AT, and AT-RT all feel like givens, and while I won't speak on less publicized plot leaks there's another set or two and a number of figs that I think are pretty likely.

 

Edit: Carterbricks has put out a list of SW leaks for April Fools saying "some are real". I'm not familiar with the source, but I don't like this move- that one leaker last year who's april fools was full of crazy stuff that mostly turned out to be true was cool, but this one is pretty easily split into "clearly april fools" and "minor detail that's a pretty safe guess but if it doesn't turn out to be true he can pretend it was also april fools." This might be a bit spicy but I don't think he knows any of that information for sure. Stuff like Fallen Order K2 or Geonosis B1 are clearly jokes, but then things like "yularen/tarkin/krennic are in the death star", "Bacara has a new mold", or my personal favorite, the already known "Plo Koon's astromech only has a head and no body" reek of guessing with no info with the fallback of "it was all april fools, that was the joke" if somehow none of it's true.

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50 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Rey herself isn't much worse than any other SW main protagonists, but she is the main character of some pretty controversial movies.

Rey absolutely was part of why those movies were bad.

We live in an epoch when franchise-owning corporations deliberately put maximum effort into destroying said franchises with stupid plots and total lack of respect towards the originals, while desperately trying to attract the audience with fake nostalgia. Rogue One and Andor's sudden successes were purely accidental and definitely weren't planned.

51 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

then things like "yularen/tarkin/krennic are in the death star", "Bacara has a new mold"

If DS happens - Yularen, and especially Tarkin, and probably Krennic, are going to show up. If UT-AT happens - Bacara will totally get a new helmet mold (if he is included). I am not sure if UT-AT is going to happen or not, and whether Bacara is included or not. 

I only know TLG is never going to realise small, affordable sets with DS characters I need after this 1000$ disaster. RIP my ANH brickfilm... Guess it's never going to happen. 

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52 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I want to make clear I'm not saying star wars should always play it safe, I'm just saying it's what the franchise needs right now.

The franchise needs to die. Or at least, scale way back to the basics. Too much content, not enough passion. A lot of writers today either don't put enough passion into their work, or the wrong type of passion (Filoni trying to make Star Wars his own). I've grown tired and weary hearing about Mando, Grogu, Ahsoka, Sabine, and not enough about Luke, Han, Leia. And the sequels are partially to blame for that. I'm not saying we need a movie with the big three, but their presence is far more needed in the franchise than Cassian Andor... especially if we're gonna be stuck in the Post-ROTJ Era. I also don't think KOTOR needs a movie series/Disney+ show (they wouldn't handle it well), the franchise as a whole needs to take a break.

Let Lego catch up on some missing set ideas. 

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Buildable Cassian Andor confirmed

Build is described as boring like the show

270$

September 1st release

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1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I want to make clear I'm not saying star wars should always play it safe, I'm just saying it's what the franchise needs right now.  Right now if they start a new trilogy or something, it's going to get a lot of instinctive backlash from fans who are fed up with the sequels and many of the shows, and the general audience just doesn't have a high enough opinion of the franchise to come out for something new after losses like Acolyte and, from a film perspective, the sequels. If they take the next few years and play out with just what they know should do well/be well received (And this seems to be the case- IIRC the only live action projects that are actually in full production are Andor S2-which I guess is done with production but you get it- TMAG, and Ahsoka S2, which I know some people didn't like but putting aside my selfish love for it, it is a Filoni project and at least it didn't have Kenobi or god forbid Acolyte level reception), they can build back some goodwill (and from the executive perspective, stuff like TMAG is pretty much guaranteed to turn a profit) before moving to the next big new thing. (KOTOR, KOTOR, KOTOR. Doesn't even have to be an adaption of those characters, just bring us into that era)

But you see, this is exactly why I think TMAG is needed. You say it can't get any worse, but I assume you felt similarly after the sequels but before Acolyte. They've done big stories, and while people don't like to hear it, their most successful one with the general audience was Mando, which played things pretty safe. They try an Old Republic trilogy or something right now, I don't think the GA shows up. They bring mando to the big screen, maybe don't make a billion dollars but at least turn a profit and get the general audience going "ok, that was a fun little adventure, I can get behind that"? They're in a better position to start the Kotor saga (again just an example- they could do a New Beyond saga or a saga set a hundred years after or what have you) in 2029.

I guess another way I'd put it is, which movie do you think would do better in theatres next year: TMAG, or the Rey movie? (Nothing against Daisy Ridley, who I think did a fine job, and Rey herself isn't much worse than any other SW main protagonists, but she is the main character of some pretty controversial movies.)

I didn't even bother to watch the Acolyte, to me Star Wars has been at rock bottom since TROS. For every good piece of content it seems like we get five bad ones, so one okay movie isn't gonna be enough for me to care or bring any goodwill back to the franchise. I just don't want a movie where the plot is essentially: Oh no baba Yoda was captured by the empire again, Mando, Ahsoka, Boba fat, Bo katan, Luke Skywalker all team up and kill the stormtroopers and save Baby yoda, The End. Also I don't think it's guaranteed to turn a profit, I think you're overestimating peoples love for this show. Lastly by making a riskier Star Wars film I don't mean making a movie based on one of the most hated Star Wars characters, that's just stupid.

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1 minute ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I didn't even bother to watch the Acolyte, to me Star Wars has been at rock bottom since TROS. For every good piece of content it seems like we get five bad ones, so one okay movie isn't gonna be enough for me to care or bring any goodwill back to the franchise. I just don't want a movie where the plot is essentially: Oh no baba Yoda was captured by the empire again, Mando, Ahsoka, Boba fat, Bo katan, Luke Skywalker all team up and kill the stormtroopers and save Baby yoda, The End. Also I don't think it's guaranteed to turn a profit, I think you're overestimating peoples love for this show. Lastly by making a riskier Star Wars film I don't mean making a movie based on one of the most hated Star Wars characters, that's just stupid.

Only way Star Wars will get better is if there's a purge and everyone in Lucasfilm is fired and bring back the people that were around when George was there, they were fired and replaced with these Disney activists, if Kathleen ever leaves, which I doubt lol, it won't matter, her followers are still there, Star Wars has been rock bottom since TLJ but I stayed hanging on to false hope, hoping for the best, the Acolyte is what killed it forever for me

Ahsoka was mid at best, Boba Fett was horrible and wasn't a bad@ss bounty hunter anymore, Obi Wan was a let down, only thing that was good about it was the Vader scenes and the final duel, I forget any other show because there's just been too much, I think the SW Disney+ shows really killed Star Wars, if they took a break for 5 or so years after TROS then there might have been a chance to fix things

Dave Filoni is not the guy for the job either, he done Ahsoka and allowed Acolyte to happen, they should either get Jon or hire that guy who was going to do the Obi-Wan movie, he had a good script and was a fan

Only thing I have left is the OT,Prequels,Clone Wars and Merchandise (Lego,Black Series,Hot Toys)

Marvel is heading that way, it still can be saved, Daredevil is good but sadly it doesn't feel like the Netflix version to me, I'm looking forward to Doomsday, Spider-Man 4, Secret Wars and the Punisher special, that's about it

I'd love The Batman 2 but it seems like that'll never happen, egos at WB as always, damn you executives, mainly Guardians Of The Galaxy man

There was a rumor Star Wars could be for sale, if true, who tf would buy it now xD, it's not worth much now since Disney ruined it completely