LEGO Star Wars 2025 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[ARC2149Nova]

1 minute ago, Llewop said:

SW fans now are almost as bad as Star Trek fans if not worse you could argue Star Trek have had it a lot worse than StarWars has recently but you know you’ve got fans of the originals, TNG, Voyager, DS9, Enterprise and even Discovery doesn’t mean one trumps the over they just all exist in the same galaxy.

As a newly converted Trekkie, this tracks. 

[Lego Nostalgia]

2 minutes ago, Max_Lego said:

"For the Empire" on YouTube 

An official project I meant

Is anyone else sick and tired of the same old Good guys win in SW, ROTS and Rogue One was a nice change, you need to take risks, if there is a new SW Trilogy, who wants to bet that a big round ball has to be blown up again

Infinity War was great, especially because the Bad guy won for a change and completed his goal

I don't know if you guys agree but it's nice for a change, good guys can't win all the time, it's just predictable

Anyhow that's enough of me ranting about how sad I feel about this franchise, I hope Bacara shows up in the Galactic Marines set

I could do without him but why not throw him in if we'll likely never get him again

If Lego makes Wolffe and a Phase 1 Cody and Rex again then I will be happy if we never get Clone stuff for 10 years

Crazy how it was only last year we got the P2 Shinies since 2014

And I know I said I don't like the new stuff but I will admit, some of the ships aren't too bad looking, I want Thrawn's Star Destroyer with Enoch

[Max_Lego]

8 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

Is anyone else sick and tired of the same old Good guys win in SW, ROTS and Rogue One was a nice change, you need to take risks

One of the reasons I dislike RO is how incompetent the Empire was there. Sure, the main cast all died at the end, but they kicked Imps' butts at ease all the way before that. Heck, the Empire doesn't have any valid anti-air defences! You can simply land on a top-secret Imperial facility and no one bats an eye! Worse than ROTJ's Scout troopers, from my point of view 

[Darth_Bane13]

2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

You do know that Kathleen and Dave worked at Lucasfilm years before the acquisition right? They were literally handpicked by George.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think KK worked on the original 6 Star Wars films, just Indiana Jones. As for Dave I think he should just stick to animation, his live action stuff is really bad. Heck even Clone Wars and rebels are a bit overrated. 

1 hour ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I'd rather have SW lose relevance (it kind of has) than to be bastardized any longer, it's dead and disney is poking it's corpse with a stick trying to squeeze whatever non existing bit is left out of it

Anyway my generation doesn't really care about movies anymore, it's just gaming, smoking vapes

Agreed, they should take a long break from making any shows or movies. Maybe they can come back after KK is gone and get someone competent in there.

1 hour ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Also, Bad Batch was 9/10s trash and Siege of Mandalore is overrated. Fight me. 

Ahsoka, Rex, and Maul all should've died on Mandalore, they've been milked to death at this point.

 

 

Anyway, does anyone here actually prefer all the recent downsizing to LSW sets?

Edited April 1 by Darth_Bane13

[Lego Nostalgia]

1 minute ago, Max_Lego said:

One of the reasons I dislike RO is how incompetent the Empire was there. Sure, the main cast all died at the end, but they kicked Imps' butts at ease all the way before that. Heck, the Empire doesn't have any valid anti-air defences! You can simply land on a top-secret Imperial facility and no one bats an eye! Worse than ROTJ's Scout troopers, from my point of view 

ARE WE BLIND, DEPLOY THE GARRISON, Mr Garrison: ''Who, you talking to me ?''

1 minute ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think KK worked on the original 6 Star Wars films, just Indiana Jones. As for Dave I think he should just stick to animation, his live action stuff is really bad. Heck even Clone Wars and rebels are a bit overrated. 

 

 

Agreed, they should take a long break from making any shows or movies. Maybe they can come back after KK is gone and get someone competent in there.

Ahsoka, Rex, and Maul all should've died on Mandalore, they've been milked to death at this point.

 

 

Anyway, does anyone here actually prefer all the recent downsizing to LSW sets?

Most likely scenario, Leslye Headland takes her place xDDDDDDDDD

And I don't mind the downsizing for some sets, I think it works well for the X-Wing and Tie Fighter but that's about it, The ARC-170 is ok, bit small, The AAT I like too even though many don't

Hopefully the MTT will be the same size as the 2014 version, I'd want it to be like the 2007 one but we gotta be realistic here, it's 2025 lego afterall

[Max_Lego]

8 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Anyway, does anyone here actually prefer all the recent downsizing to LSW sets?

I don't. I would have preferred sets to be a little bit larger, with more detail and, if it's possible, more faithful to the source material.

But of course, it's impossible, since LSW sets are for kids who don't care about accuracy... 

[ARC2149Nova]

23 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Anyway, does anyone here actually prefer all the recent downsizing to LSW sets?

The X-Wing and even the TIE Fighter were fine, imo. I don't know how to feel about the ARC-170 (haven't bought it yet), but the only sets I think the downsizing would benefit are a Snowspeeder and an A-Wing. They're the two consistently oversized vehicles in the line, so a downscale would make them better, not worse. I don't know of any other particularly noticeable downsizes. Maybe the Ghost counts, but a ship of that size is always inconsistently sized for system sets.

[TheScaryDoor]

15 minutes ago, ARC2149Nova said:

I don't know how to feel about the ARC-170 (haven't bought it yet), but the only sets I think the downsizing would benefit are a Snowspeeder and an A-Wing. 

You forgot the Landspeeder 😁

[CloneCommando99]

54 minutes ago, Max_Lego said:

One of the reasons I dislike RO is how incompetent the Empire was there. Sure, the main cast all died at the end, but they kicked Imps' butts at ease all the way before that. Heck, the Empire doesn't have any valid anti-air defences! You can simply land on a top-secret Imperial facility and no one bats an eye! Worse than ROTJ's Scout troopers, from my point of view 

Yeah it’s not like in the OT Vader is actively seen executing imperial officers for making stupid mistakes. And some gunnery officers decided not to shoot an escape pod that came out of the hostile ship despite being given orders to do so. Oh wait. Imperial incompetence has always been a running theme in SW. Empire is still my favourite faction though.

I always assumed that was because the storm was blocking the communications and radar. Kinda makes sense for a black-site research facility as no one can detect it, even Bodhi had to give manual directions instead of precise coordinates. But of course it’s a double edged sword. This is further suggested by Galen giving a physical message to Bodhi instead of transmitting it directly to Saw and Krennic going to investigate in person.

Didn’t the turbo lasers on the Eadu installation take out half the rebel squadron that was sent in? I’d call that pretty effective air defence. Also I’m pretty sure all the rebel starfighters that made it to Scariff’s surface were shot down before the Death Star even arrived.

1 hour ago, Llewop said:

It’s way off topic but it might just be that SW is so big and so many eras that all of the new stuff might just not be for you. There’s people on here who worship the OT and have little patience for anything else, there are people my age (30s) who had the prequels and enjoyed them for what they are and I’m sure in 10 years time people will be coming out as ST fans. Then you throw in those who like CW but hate Rebels and vice versa, those who flat out hate all the animated stuff. There is probably some out there who like everything and for me that’s fine. Everyone has their favourites and I don’t think more content is ever going to take away from anyone’s favourites. Disney has its faults but I’d rather have the content we’ve had for the past 10+ years than have nothing, at least for me now because of Disney and the new stuff there is an established canon whether you like it or not it used to wind me up everyone arguing over what is and isn’t canon. 
 

back to Lego I saw someone tease a Christmas themed TIE getting released obviously it’s a fake but I never knew how much I wanted one until now…

Thank you! This is pretty much what I was trying to say.

 

Same. Though I wonder if Hasbro would let lego use their Christmas trooper designs.

 

As for downsizing. I’d say it’s relative to the vehicle currently. A-Wings AT-RTs and Jedi Starfighters need to be smaller. Things like shuttles in general (bar the LAAT) need to be bigger. All other starfighters I think are fine as they are.

[Swordy]

7 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

(though as always, my best argument is once more just waiting for @Swordy to explain it better than I could)

As always, thank you/you’re welcome. I do what I can… when I eventually feel up to it, lol.

 

 

This discussion goes right back to the debate over the state of the MCU in the Marvel thread, and brings up why I didn’t really want to argue in either: one too many people here dogpiling on anything and everything I like. I just don’t feel motivated to defend my favourites against a whole lot of logical and illogical jargon. Maybe that’s the sign that SW has fallen out of favour: that the haters have more passion than the lovers.

I’m an OT fan first and foremost; the original films are brilliant and my personal favourite films out of any franchise. Doesn’t mean I can’t find a similar level of enjoyment, or at least appreciation from other aspects of Star Wars. I can find things to appreciate about mostly every other SW—I’ll even credit Acolyte for… uh… maybe kyber-bleeding but it wasn’t exactly as dramatic as it could’ve been.

Not every project is going to speak to me, but we aren’t talking about cheaply-funded fan films. Any SW movie or TV show is still leagues better than the average sci-fi show (and most of Star Trek… no basis for that claim, just wanted to dig at the Trekkies), whether it’s in the writing, or acting, or set design, or costumes, or ships and props, or just the music. SW is still the premier franchise, even if not every aspect hits at the moment. We’re picking apart the best of the best from the less best of the best. (Except the Holiday Special… but hey we always got that Boba cartoon stuck in there.)

3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

There’s also nothing wrong with adding more diversity. If you want to appeal to international markets and both genders it’s just common business logic. The problem is when it’s focused on and forced in at the expense of the story and writing (cough Reva cough)

These days I just look at the good things (Andor, JFO, JS, Rebels, TBB, TCWS7,  Mando S1-2 Rogue One, Squadrons, both Thrawn trilogies, Tarkin novel and the Aftermath trilogy) casually enjoy Kenobi, TFA and Ahsoka as they have their moments and ignore the abysmal bantha poop that are Acolyte, TBoBF and TROS. Of course this is all subjective.

Overall it’s all subjective and dependent on each individual’s POV and preference. My father for one hates the prequels and animation but loves the sequels, I am the opposite, but we both agree on Andor and Rogue One being great. Like they say: one man’s garbage is another man’s treasure.

Word to most of the above. (I disagree on TRoS, and I’m still surprised how well-liked Kenobi is, but as you say, it’s all subjective.) There’s objective bad and good, and then there’s subjective takes. I think most of us here have a good grasp of what makes a strong story and what doesn’t, so ultimately most of the debates here are going to be based on preference. Acolyte didn’t connect with me or a lot of people, but it connected with a lot of other people, and neither can be denied.

 

7 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

They've done big stories, and while people don't like to hear it, their most successful one with the general audience was Mando, which played things pretty safe. They try an Old Republic trilogy or something right now, I don't think the GA shows up. They bring mando to the big screen, maybe don't make a billion dollars but at least turn a profit and get the general audience going "ok, that was a fun little adventure, I can get behind that"?

The key is good creative direction. Give the Tony Gilroy crew a redundant tale of Imperial oppression, and you get Andor. Give Lesyle Headland an exciting premise of the High Republic from the Sith’s perspective, and you get Acolyte. Give Kresh’ and Kasdan a story premised around the good guys failing spectacularly, and you get Empire Strikes Back. Jon Faverau has never failed to deliver a quality movie experience in my eyes; I have faith that M&G will be no different.

 

3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

You do know that Kathleen and Dave worked at Lucasfilm years before the acquisition right? They were literally handpicked by George.

KK was reportedly handpicked because she didn’t know much about SW. George’s scheme rested on her not being confident in her knowledge of SW and going to George as an adviser. Basically George wanted to outstep the media and fan limelight while still holding the reigns. Of course, he underestimated KK and Bob Iger’s egos, and the rest was history.

As for Filoni…

1 hour ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

Wasn’t Filoni writer and director on much of the beloved Clone Wars?

Overall creative and director, yes. I don’t think he was much of a seasoned script writer, though, which is evident when you go from Jon Faverau’s work on Chapter 12 of Mando to Dave Filoni’s Chapter 13. He seems more likely to have been handheld into hierarchy than having worked his way to that position.

2 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Also, Bad Batch was 9/10s trash and Siege of Mandalore is overrated. Fight me. 

Why bother? Anyone can criticize anything to death. Anyone can say, “Yo man, this is hot garbage,” and look cool and get the crowd to agree with them. I personally grow tired of those kinds of people. To each his own, and I’m glad you find enjoyment out of other parts of SW of which I remain blissfully ignorant. Let someone less apathetic fight you if they wish.

1 hour ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Ahsoka, Rex, and Maul all should've died on Mandalore, they've been milked to death at this point.

Yeah, probably… except Rebels released before S7, and for a while was CW fans’ only indication what happened to their favourite characters. The creatives’ hands were tied when TCW was cancelled.

 

 

1 hour ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Anyway, does anyone here actually prefer all the recent downsizing to LSW sets?

I don’t have a preference either way. Down-scaling does make SW ships more affordable, but at the cost of certain onscreen details. I can live with it, just as soon as I modify those sets to my preferred level of accuracy. At the end of the day, though, LEGO sets are just that: sets of build blocks. What happens afterward is up to me.

Edited April 1 by Swordy

[CallumPears]

2 hours ago, Max_Lego said:

ANYTHING with Filoni involved was trash, IMAO

Facts. CWMMP >>> TCW

2 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Anyway, does anyone here actually prefer all the recent downsizing to LSW sets?

Some of them. The TIE and X-wing were great (tbh the 2018 versions of both were too oversized for my liking), but the Slave 1 was terrible. 

I just want them to downsize the things which actually need downsizing. AT-RTs, BARC speeders, Naboo starfighters, AT-STs, and more have been consistently far too large for over a decade. Having them be far too big while sets like Slave 1 get far too small makes them look especially terrible side by side.

 

Also I watched AshNFlash's review of the new character encyclopedia. As I kinda expected it's riddled with errors and is vastly incomplete, even going so far as to fully remove the EU section (when they could've just copied it from the previous edition). Probably just gonna Bricklink the Palpatine figure at some point, or maybe see if Amazon has a decent sale. 

Edited April 1 by CallumPears

[CallumPears]

Christmas TIE seems to actually be real

[Darth_Bane13]

1 hour ago, Swordy said:

 Maybe that’s the sign that SW has fallen out of favour: that the haters have more passion than the lovers.

"Inside every cynical person is a disappointed idealist"

[ARC2149Nova]

1 hour ago, Swordy said:

Any SW movie or TV show is still leagues better than the average sci-fi show (and most of Star Trek

Why bother? Anyone can criticize anything to death. Anyone can say, “Yo man, this is hot garbage,” and look cool and get the crowd to agree with them. I personally grow tired of those kinds of people.

1. Yeah no. Trek is way better and a lot more nuanced when it comes to its socio-political themes. DS9 is one of the best written shows I've ever watched, complex themes and even more complex characters. Star Wars is utterly simple by comparison. Good vs Evil at it's purest. Which I love, btw, both franchises have their merits and their faults, but Trek is way better at handling emotionally mature subjects. That's the benefit of having several multiple-season TV shows and 10 movies of content as the base, as opposed to only six films. Everything Disney/Post-2009 Wars/Trek is more evenly footed. (Let's not even get started on the beloved shows like Stargate, Battlestar Galactica, Babylon 5, etc)

2. That was (mostly) a joke. Bad Batch should've focused more on its central themes and plot than on numerous side quests and "monsters of the week", and while the Siege was a beautiful set piece, the episodes themselves are pretty standard TCW fare. That alongside an already mediocre season, it's just meh. Besides, anyone can fanatically love what Disney puts out and call it great, and many will agree with them. I personally grow tired of those kinds of people.

In all seriousness, just because something is popular or lots of people like it, doesn't make it good. A lot of what's defended by the NuWars fans is okay at best. Maybe as their own projects (i.e. not Star Wars related) I'd appreciate them more. My biggest issue will always be the attempts at overshadowing the base films.

1 hour ago, CallumPears said:

Facts. CWMMP >>> TCW

Preach, brother.

1 hour ago, CallumPears said:

Some of them. The TIE and X-wing were great (tbh the 2018 versions of both were too oversized for my liking), but the Slave 1 was terrible. 

I just want them to downsize the things which actually need downsizing. AT-RTs, BARC speeders, Naboo starfighters, AT-STs, and more have been consistently far too large for over a decade. Having them be far too big while sets like Slave 1 get far too small makes them look especially terrible side by side.

I forgot about Slave I, and I own that set! 

I think that AT-RTs are stubbornly oversized because they're easy to include in $40 "battle packs" . They've also super-sized the BARCs, the sizing from 2007 to 2011 was pretty much perfect. Only more recent speeder bikes have been too beefy.

[Mandalorianknight]

6 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

You can cherrypick the sentiment, but you haven't denied the major flaw. Most people think Star Wars = Mando, Ahsoka, Andor, and whatever else Disney decides to spit out. Not the original story, and not the original characters (save Vader).

I was making a joke- you can go back and look at my posts, I agree with your general sentiment that the franchise isn't doing well. I do think the amount of content is a big part of that. There's less emphasis on individual projects being good when you're dropping 4 a year instead of 3 a decade.

 

But I know time is rapidly whittling down on this of-topic tangent, so before we're all dropped into the rancor pit, I'll move on.

3 hours ago, CallumPears said:

Christmas TIE seems to actually be real

Yeah that's our extra holiday set, I guess. Appears the 2024 battle pack remake was an exception to the holiday rule. 

This is an interesting choice (Obligatory "not a christmas clone trooper?" joke), especially if it's an advanced as the picture indicates. I don't tend to go for stuff that doesn't fit into the universe, but I think it'll be fun. I hope it brings Santa Vader back, the ugly sweaters in the advent were always a downgrade from the santas in my eyes.

[AD_Bricks]

3 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Yeah that's our extra holiday set, I guess. Appears the 2024 battle pack remake was an exception to the holiday rule. 

Still a "special occasion" set though I guess, being not just a regular anniversary set (special box art and exclusive figure), but also a very direct remake of two older sets. Maybe that's why it was given that position, and Christmas is just one of the things these sets will be based on going forward.

[Llewop]

So is it going to be gingerbread themed or candy cane themed TIE? Personally hope it’s Candy cane. Know it sounds stupid in my head the TIE is used as a sled and is being dragged by tauntauns and they bring back Santa Vader

[ARC2149Nova]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I was making a joke

My bad. It flew over my head.

34 minutes ago, Llewop said:

So is it going to be gingerbread themed or candy cane themed TIE? Personally hope it’s Candy cane. Know it sounds stupid in my head the TIE is used as a sled and is being dragged by tauntauns and they bring back Santa Vader

Now, see...this is peak Star Wars.

But if we get Candy Cane TIE, we need the full release of the employee X-Wing. I personally think gingerbread would be nice though. It seems to fit the vibe of a TIE Fighter better than the Candy Cane color scheme.

[TeddytheSpoon]

41 minutes ago, ARC2149Nova said:

But if we get Candy Cane TIE, we need the full release of the employee X-Wing. I personally think gingerbread would be nice though. It seems to fit the vibe of a TIE Fighter better than the Candy Cane color scheme.

I agree a gingerbread one would be fun. The piping around the outside would be perfect for the grey framing that already exists on the wings.

[Tariq j]

11 hours ago, Rwbricks said:

I actually have *exclusive* insider information about this. 75419 was thought to be the Death Star, but it’s actually the boulder from the beginning of Raiders of the Lost Ark. The price is still the same, and it comes with the same Indiana Jones minifigure, as well as an exclusive Belloq (he has dual-molded boots). Leakers just saw a giant grey sphere and took a guess. 

Okay but I would unironically buy this.

1 hour ago, Llewop said:

So is it going to be gingerbread themed or candy cane themed TIE? Personally hope it’s Candy cane. Know it sounds stupid in my head the TIE is used as a sled and is being dragged by tauntauns and they bring back Santa Vader

Both would be fun but a Gingerbread one would be my preference. A shame it's only one figure which I'm assuming is going to be a TIE pilot as I would have liked to have seen a Santa Vader with the newer figure.

[CloneCommando99]

The Tie Caroller is real!!!!

 

Gingerbread would look better. But it would also probably mean the figure is the gingerbread clone trooper.

Actually, who am I kidding? That would be sick.

[BacktoBricks]

Lego designer to 2nd designer: 'You want a gingerbread biscuit?'

2nd Lego designer takes a gingerbread biscuit. Swoops biscuit in air.

Lego designer: 'They fly now?'

2nd Lego designer: 'They fly now.''

[Mandalorianknight]

11 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

Still a "special occasion" set though I guess, being not just a regular anniversary set (special box art and exclusive figure), but also a very direct remake of two older sets. Maybe that's why it was given that position, and Christmas is just one of the things these sets will be based on going forward.

Fair, I guess I should specify that other occasions would be the exception and I'm assuming they'll typically be holiday/Christmas based given the time of year. Which makes sense- nobody's going out and buying Easter sets in late fall, and if it's still an October release Halloween is cutting it a little close. Menorah Y-wing in 2026? Vader's Snow Castle? Santa's Podracer?

9 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

My bad. It flew over my head.

Now, see...this is peak Star Wars.

But if we get Candy Cane TIE, we need the full release of the employee X-Wing. I personally think gingerbread would be nice though. It seems to fit the vibe of a TIE Fighter better than the Candy Cane color scheme.

No problem, I assumed that was what happened.

I do think Gingerbread works better, as others have said, the grey lines can be white frosting and the black panels can become nougat-colored gingerbread.

8 hours ago, Tariq j said:

Both would be fun but a Gingerbread one would be my preference. A shame it's only one figure which I'm assuming is going to be a TIE pilot as I would have liked to have seen a Santa Vader with the newer figure.

Actually, the image IS an advanced, which I wasn't putting a ton of stock into but it would be a way to get a Santa Vader in the set with only the one figure. I feel like lego would want a major character in the set, so that might be why they chose the advanced. (And it better not stop us from getting a normal advanced...)

5 hours ago, BacktoBricks said:

Lego designer to 2nd designer: 'You want a gingerbread biscuit?'

2nd Lego designer takes a gingerbread biscuit. Swoops biscuit in air.

Lego designer: 'They fly now?'

2nd Lego designer: 'They fly now.''

Can we pin this post to the start of the thread?

[BacktoBricks]

7 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Can we pin this post to the start of the thread?

Absolutely. 

[CallumPears]

21 hours ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

Fateful teasing an Indiana Jones return. April Fools aside, this would be the fifth true “prediction” from T&N’s 2023 list. The final one would be an Endor MBS, which I assume would come out next year. 

21 hours ago, CallumPears said:

One thing to note is that it's the Temple of Doom which was cancelled back in 2023 and we got some blurry leaks of it but never had clear ones. I know there was some of drama in the LIJ Reddit community about it (something about Fateful not wanting to release the full pictures for security reasons but then someone he showed one to in private did, or something like that?) so this could be a revenge prank 2 years in the making, but we'll find out for sure tomorrow I guess. 

Welp...