CloneCommando99 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 (edited) Why do ya’ll think Lego reduced the number of battlepacks after 2020? Why did we not get any in 2021? And finally why, with how evidently well the recent clone battlepacks have been selling, have Lego not looked at sales data and done what they’ve now done with larger clone sets (make more)? On a side note: U-Wing is fantastic, easily best set of the year for me (Dedra’s legs aren’t that big of a turn off). I’m glad we got the dual moulded cap/ hair piece in time for Dedra. But sad it was too late for Bae Sloane. Slave One looks great, end of story. GWP looks excellent for what it is Kylo Wren sets are both overpriced and goofy looking. I feel bad for sequel fans. The Logo is an abysmal concept with good execution. I just think it shouldn’t exist. Edited April 14 by CloneCommando99 Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted April 14 Posted April 14 Seeing the box for the Star Wars logo set from both sides is the funniest thing ever. If not the for the LEGO logo, you wouldn't even be able to tell it's a LEGO set. Just absolutely hilarious. Quote
Samppu Posted April 14 Posted April 14 3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: The Logo is an abysmal concept with good execution. I just think it shouldn’t exist. Sort of agree, though I do think there is an audience for it. Not a very massive one perhaps, but still. I would guess that two audiences exist: the fans who buy it to use it as some sort of "title" piece for their collection, and the casual non-afols who buy it as a gift or as a discreet collective item to display their love for Star Wars for their house guests. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted April 14 Posted April 14 6 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Why do ya’ll think Lego reduced the number of battlepacks after 2020? Why did we not get any in 2021? And finally why, with how evidently well the recent clone battlepacks have been selling, have Lego not looked at sales data and done what they’ve now done with larger clone sets (make more)? Bae Sloane. This might be a hot take but I actually don't think battle packs do as well as we all like to imagine. I've seen the 332nd pack for as low as $6 now, but in general most of the recent $20 packs I've been able to find for $10-15 pretty consistently less than a year after release. (The only holdout of the $20 price point being the mando one weirdly enough, but I'm sure that'll change.) I also imagine that even at $20, with 4 figs and a licensing fee the profit margins aren't as good as, say, the starfighter sets. I could easily see lego being worried about eating their own sales by having too many out at the same time, and viewing it as not worth the additional factory space/new prints/etc to pump out the same numbers as before. How many times is a user going to fall for an imperial officer in this thread? 2 hours ago, Samppu said: I would guess that two audiences exist: the fans who buy it to use it as some sort of "title" piece for their collection, and the casual non-afols who buy it as a gift or as a discreet collective item to display their love for Star Wars for their house guests. See, the thing is, I think most people would view a ship or helmet as more discreet than a blaring yellow "STAR WARS" sitting on their table. That's what I'm not understanding about this- it feels incredibly basic and bland but at the same time very loud and visible. Quote
Llewop Posted April 14 Posted April 14 6 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Why do ya’ll think Lego reduced the number of battlepacks after 2020? Why did we not get any in 2021? And finally why, with how evidently well the recent clone battlepacks have been selling, have Lego not looked at sales data and done what they’ve now done with larger clone sets (make more)? Memory serves the battlepacks they were kind of running out of ideas for and went down some bad routes with them. They had that tattoine and bounty hunter one which were more characters packs than battle packs imo. I also feel like they had a lot sometimes we’d get 4 a year ontop of ones released the year before I think they did too many too quick possibly. I remember at the time thinking that of all the current and recent stuff there wasn’t much they could make that would entice me. Obviously since 2020 we’ve had all the Disney+ shows which you could get at least a dozen good battlepacks out of. I think it’s the shift to more adult sets which means that the systems sets are rarer and they probably want to play it safer with them hence why the clone dominance. The snowtrooper one was safe because they knew people would buy the UCS AT-AT and want to fill it up with troops. I think another factor is the price hikes battlepacks used to be something kids could probably afford with pocket money or it would be a cheap set a distant relative could get at Xmas or birthdays but now when they are £20 twice what they were when I was a kid it’s a lot especially when City sell similar kind of packs for 25-30% cheaper and probably more parts and better builds than the SW. We’ve lost location systems set in favour of the overpriced dioramas so at some point we’ll lost the battle pack to something aimed more at the adult market and at bigger price. If Lego chose the right kind of packs they could easily have enough for 2-3 a year for a while and cover all factions enough to not end up with one dominating. 1 minute ago, Mandalorianknight said: This might be a hot take but I actually don't think battle packs do as well as we all like to imagine. I've seen the 332nd pack for as low as $6 now, but in general most of the recent $20 packs I've been able to find for $10-15 pretty consistently less than a year after release. (The only holdout of the $20 price point being the mando one weirdly enough, but I'm sure that'll change.) I also imagine that even at $20, with 4 figs and a licensing fee the profit margins aren't as good as, say, the starfighter sets. I could easily see lego being worried about eating their own sales by having too many out at the same time, and viewing it as not worth the additional factory space/new prints/etc to pump out the same numbers as before. I do feel the same that they don’t sell as well. They are never out of stock and outside of Lego they are always on offer somewhere. In the U.K. over Christmas the Mando vs imperial one was half price as well as the clone vs droids one. I think our perception is that because we all maybe buy one or two then everyone does Quote
wesker Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 4/12/2025 at 5:19 PM, Swordy said: Sums up my thoughts for the ST and RotS sets. These are great fine collectibles, but, as representations of two of my favourite SW movies, they don’t quite cut it. Sure, it’s not just me for whom TLG makes these sets, but I have to wonder how many people are going to buy these anyway? Most teens and young adults spew snarky comments anytime the Sequels are mentioned. So then, if the kids of the generation who grew up with the Sequels are the target demographic to go after, where are the 7+ and 10+ Sequel sets? Oh right, those are the army-builder clone sets targeted toward, yet again, teenagers and young adults. Is there even enough of a demographic from the sequel generation kids to justify making 7-10+ sets? Not a slight on the films - but the Star Wars brand is in a very different place under Disney than it was during the prequel era that its not leaving the same cultural impact that it once did. 26 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: This might be a hot take but I actually don't think battle packs do as well as we all like to imagine. I've seen the 332nd pack for as low as $6 now, but in general most of the recent $20 packs I've been able to find for $10-15 pretty consistently less than a year after release. (The only holdout of the $20 price point being the mando one weirdly enough, but I'm sure that'll change.) I also imagine that even at $20, with 4 figs and a licensing fee the profit margins aren't as good as, say, the starfighter sets. I could easily see lego being worried about eating their own sales by having too many out at the same time, and viewing it as not worth the additional factory space/new prints/etc to pump out the same numbers as before. I don't think its a hot take at all. Army builders are definitely a vocal minority in the Lego community whether they like to admit it or not. Quote
Lego Nostalgia Posted April 14 Posted April 14 31 minutes ago, wesker said: Is there even enough of a demographic from the sequel generation kids to justify making 7-10+ sets? Not a slight on the films - but the Star Wars brand is in a very different place under Disney than it was during the prequel era that its not leaving the same cultural impact that it once did. I don't think its a hot take at all. Army builders are definitely a vocal minority in the Lego community whether they like to admit it or not. Depends on the legion IMO, could also be that they're over produced, and also most have bought them already so they're left over, especially if it came out a year ago The longer the set is on shelves, the less its popular Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted April 14 Posted April 14 6 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said: The longer the set is on shelves, the less its popular Unless it remains on shelves longer because it sells so well, like the 2008 Death Star that survived wayyyyy past its expiration date Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted April 14 Posted April 14 26 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said: The longer the set is on shelves, the less its popular This is partly true, but it's specifically for sets that last long on shelves without restocks/new production runs, which is generally hard to gauge. For example, some UCS sets last drastically longer than the norm due to how well they sell. On the other hand, some sets sit around on shelves longer than the typical production run simply because they aren't selling. I'll give an example- X-jet's only been out for a year and a half, but it's gone everywhere around me. Not because it sold like hotcakes, but because it barely sold at all, got on deep discounts (that mostly got snapped up before i could get to the stores ) and the retailers never ordered more. 59 minutes ago, wesker said: Is there even enough of a demographic from the sequel generation kids to justify making 7-10+ sets? Not a slight on the films - but the Star Wars brand is in a very different place under Disney than it was during the prequel era that its not leaving the same cultural impact that it once did. I don't think its a hot take at all. Army builders are definitely a vocal minority in the Lego community whether they like to admit it or not. I don't know. It's the type of thing that putting out a small $10-30 set could test, but instead lego went for the demo least likely to be fans of the sequel trilogy- adult collectors who either are still nursing their wounds from the PT or grew up on the PT and had the reaction to the ST older fans did to the PT. I think that's true, and lego seems to be focusing more on the vocal than the minority part of that. This year reads like they asked MandR what sets he wanted. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: This might be a hot take but I actually don't think battle packs do as well as we all like to imagine. I've seen the 332nd pack for as low as $6 now, but in general most of the recent $20 packs I've been able to find for $10-15 pretty consistently less than a year after release. (The only holdout of the $20 price point being the mando one weirdly enough, but I'm sure that'll change.) I also imagine that even at $20, with 4 figs and a licensing fee the profit margins aren't as good as, say, the starfighter sets. I could easily see lego being worried about eating their own sales by having too many out at the same time, and viewing it as not worth the additional factory space/new prints/etc to pump out the same numbers as before. Huh. I never see BPs go on discount at my local stores and supermarkets. Just on Amazon. These are very good points. Thanks. 3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: How many times is a user going to fall for an imperial officer in this thread? Karyn Faro (my tactician Queen) Arihnda Pryce Elia Kane Ellian Zahra Natasi Daala Nath Alico Adea Rite Tala Durith Oniye Namada Nanda Delian Mors Jylia Shale Terisa Kerrill Iden Versio 3 hours ago, Llewop said: We’ve lost location systems set in favour of the overpriced dioramas so at some point we’ll lost the battle pack to something aimed more at the adult market and at bigger price. If Lego chose the right kind of packs they could easily have enough for 2-3 a year for a while and cover all factions enough to not end up with one dominating. The day that happens may be the day where I lose all faith in the theme entirely. Simple answer to the problem: Year 1 = Imperial Battlepack, clone Battlepack, Resistance vs First Order/ rebel vs Imperial super Battlepack. Year 2 = Rebel Battlepack, Criminal faction Battlepack, Clone vs droid Battlepack. Rinse, repeat, profit and everyone wins. 1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Unless it remains on shelves longer because it sells so well, like the 2008 Death Star that survived wayyyyy past its expiration date UCS Falcon, TRoS Falcon and Daily Bugle have entered the chat 49 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: I think that's true, and lego seems to be focusing more on the vocal than the minority part of that. This year reads like they asked MandR what sets he wanted. But helmet holes? No cloth waste capes. No 69th Legion. Lego obviously hates their fans!!! Star Wars celebration is in a few days. I’m anticipating a sneak peak at M&G to get released as well as news on the next animated project. Either way I’m fully expecting us to have a lot of educated speculation on 2026 sets this weekend. I definitely expect there to be a RTG S2 trailer since the Micro Tank is definitely not a S1 set. Edited April 14 by CloneCommando99 Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 (edited) My apologies for the double post. But Star Wars: Zero Company just got announced. It’s a turn-based strategy similar to X-COM set during the Clone Wars. Now I know I’ve been vocal about my lack of desire for more TCW stuff. But this. This is something different. (Even the playable clones will likely have cool and unique designs) Battlepack sized character packs would be perfect for tying in with a game like this. Edited April 14 by CloneCommando99 Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 11 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Why do ya’ll think Lego reduced the number of battlepacks after 2020? Why did we not get any in 2021? And finally why, with how evidently well the recent clone battlepacks have been selling, have Lego not looked at sales data and done what they’ve now done with larger clone sets (make more)? Last year we got 2 mega battle packs and one regular, so I think they're just making the mega battle packs to make more money off of army builders. the mega battle packs are really just two battle packs combined into one set so you are forced to get both sides even if you only wanted one (clones for example). Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted April 14 Posted April 14 The first Andor clip is out, and something tells me @THELEGOBATMAN is not gonna like what transpires here Kinda weird we have yet to see a U-Wing anywhere, considering it‘s what they went for with the set! Especially compared to the TIE Avenger (?), which is all over the marketing. Quote
Kaijumeister Posted April 14 Posted April 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said: The first Andor clip is out, and something tells me @THELEGOBATMAN is not gonna like what transpires here Kinda weird we have yet to see a U-Wing anywhere, considering it‘s what they went for with the set! Especially compared to the TIE Avenger (?), which is all over the marketing. Some U-Wing footage in this Special Look video Edited April 14 by Kaijumeister Quote
Kit Figsto Posted April 15 Posted April 15 7 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: I don't know. It's the type of thing that putting out a small $10-30 set could test, but instead lego went for the demo least likely to be fans of the sequel trilogy- adult collectors who either are still nursing their wounds from the PT or grew up on the PT and had the reaction to the ST older fans did to the PT. The 4+ Poe's X-Wing from a few years ago seemed to have a decently long shelf life (about 18 months) and I don't recall it getting clearanced, at least. That said, the junior sets are probably a bit different in demographic in that it's like, 80% just parents buying whatever is on shelves, or the kid wanting a LEGO Star Wars set and that being the age-appropriate one. 10 hours ago, Llewop said: Memory serves the battlepacks they were kind of running out of ideas for and went down some bad routes with them. They had that tattoine and bounty hunter one which were more characters packs than battle packs imo. I also feel like they had a lot sometimes we’d get 4 a year ontop of ones released the year before I think they did too many too quick possibly. This is an unpopular opinion, but the two packs that you mentioned, as well as the things like the Imperial Guards + Gunners or Jedi + Clone BP were some of my favorites. The Tatooine one was just a unique and cool concept, and inadvertently became a perfect add-on pack to go with the MBS Cantina (it was just, like, three years too early), the Bounter Hunter one was a fantastic way to get 4 desirable characters, and the others were just interesting to me. I'd love it if they did one army building BP + one character-based BP at the same time (stuff like an all-Jedi BP, one with some named Clones, an Endor one with some Ewoks, et cetera), but I think since they scaled the number back, the focus is going to be on the army building ones, or maybe the 2 vs. 2 concept (like the Mandalorian one on shelves right now). Quote
CallumPears Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Watched M&R's review of the Slave 1 and oh man that loading ramp function is SMOOTH I will be injecting this set directly into my veins Quote
Legofan2001 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 So the “UT-AT” with “UT-AT” Figures is actually a TURBO TANK with “UT-AT” figures 😡😡😡😡😡 Quote
Brickwraith Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Well, according to brick tap the UT-AT is actually a clone turbo tank and the rebuild the galaxy set is a hot rod snowspeeder. Unfortunately it sounds pretty plausible, which sucks for me since I already have the 2010 clone turbo tank and don't really care for the vehicle enough to want another plus I really love the UT-AT design. At the very least we are getting bacara and the galactic marines at least. Quote
CallumPears Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Welp that sucks about the UT-AT. Time to dust off that MOC I put on pause when the rumour came about. Quote
Legofan2001 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 4 minutes ago, Brickwraith said: Well, according to brick tap the UT-AT is actually a clone turbo tank and the rebuild the galaxy set is a hot rod snowspeeder. Unfortunately it sounds pretty plausible, which sucks for me since I already have the 2010 clone turbo tank and don't really care for the vehicle enough to want another plus I really love the UT-AT design. At the very least we are getting bacara and the galactic marines at least. Only Lego could be this incompetent and manage to piss off both people who wanted a UT-AT and Turbo Tank. Just insanity. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted April 15 Posted April 15 5 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: But Star Wars: Zero Company just got announced. They remembered how to make cool video game character designs, holy cow. Every single person here is someone I would love to play as. Hope a set manages to squeeze through! 7 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Delian Mors She's not even competent at her job! Like putting aside that the imperials are the bad guys here, she's not even good at it! Quote
CallumPears Posted April 15 Posted April 15 So, where does the good-guy Cad Bane fit in? Was he fake, or is he in the snowspeeder? (I didn't watch RBTG so apologies if he is like the specific owner of that speeder or something lol) Quote
Virginia_Bricks Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Just now, CallumPears said: So, where does the good-guy Cad Bane fit in? Was he fake, or is he in the snowspeeder? There is a Duros in the set, so that is where it came from probably. Quote
Brickwraith Posted April 15 Posted April 15 11 minutes ago, CallumPears said: So, where does the good-guy Cad Bane fit in? Was he fake, or is he in the snowspeeder? (I didn't watch RBTG so apologies if he is like the specific owner of that speeder or something lol) That was just speculation from people on the forum. All we knew from leaks was that there was a duros Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted April 15 Posted April 15 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Kit Figsto said: The 4+ Poe's X-Wing from a few years ago seemed to have a decently long shelf life (about 18 months) and I don't recall it getting clearanced, at least. That said, the junior sets are probably a bit different in demographic in that it's like, 80% just parents buying whatever is on shelves, or the kid wanting a LEGO Star Wars set and that being the age-appropriate one. This is an unpopular opinion, but the two packs that you mentioned, as well as the things like the Imperial Guards + Gunners or Jedi + Clone BP were some of my favorites. The Tatooine one was just a unique and cool concept, and inadvertently became a perfect add-on pack to go with the MBS Cantina (it was just, like, three years too early), the Bounter Hunter one was a fantastic way to get 4 desirable characters, and the others were just interesting to me. I'd love it if they did one army building BP + one character-based BP at the same time (stuff like an all-Jedi BP, one with some named Clones, an Endor one with some Ewoks, et cetera), but I think since they scaled the number back, the focus is going to be on the army building ones, or maybe the 2 vs. 2 concept (like the Mandalorian one on shelves right now). I also liked the tatooine and bounty hunter ones. Wasn't a fan of the jedi and clone pack, though- they chose two of the least massable jedi- very few Cereans out in the galaxy, and Bariss has unique robes- and they weren't particularly desirable ones either. The tatooine pack had massable characters and the Bounty Hunter one, while including named characters, had the cheapest and best Bossk as well as the first in a good number of years, the first 4-Lom EVER, and Dengar and IG-88, who were a bit easier to get but still, incredibly value to pick up 4/6 of the executor hunters for $15. 37 minutes ago, Legofan2001 said: So the “UT-AT” with “UT-AT” Figures is actually a TURBO TANK with “UT-AT” figures 😡😡😡😡😡 This will definitely be a hot take, but I think this is a win for the majority of people. The turbo tank is much more iconic and hasn't been seen in almost a decade so I do think it's the better choice. I guarantee there are significantly more guys out there who'd pick up a Turbo Tank than the UT-AT. Me among them- this would be interesting.Figure choice is a bit odd, but think about it this way- I think if it leaked as a turbo tank from the start, people really wouldn't be that mad. 37 minutes ago, Brickwraith said: Well, according to brick tap the UT-AT is actually a clone turbo tank and the rebuild the galaxy set is a hot rod snowspeeder. Unfortunately it sounds pretty plausible, which sucks for me since I already have the 2010 clone turbo tank and don't really care for the vehicle enough to want another plus I really love the UT-AT design. At the very least we are getting bacara and the galactic marines at least. What is it with lego and extremely random snowspeeder variants? As I said above I think this is actually a win for most people, and that if it hadn't originally leaked as a UT-AT there'd be almost no backlash. 31 minutes ago, Legofan2001 said: Only Lego could be this incompetent and manage to piss off both people who wanted a UT-AT and Turbo Tank. Just insanity. To be fair this is a massive win for turbo tank fans, goes from a $50 tiny tank to a $150 actual set. But yes, a loss for UT-AT fans. Edited April 15 by Mandalorianknight Quote
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