Swordy Posted April 18 Posted April 18 (edited) 19 hours ago, CallumPears said: One thing I'm trying to remember is when the Mando's N1 and the Spider Tank were revealed directly after their respective episodes did we have any rumour of them beforehand? Could there still be an Andor spoiler set kept under close enough guard to not leak at all? (Huffing the copium hard, I know.) If memory serves me right (it better), the Spider Tank was rumored beforehand, but the N-1 was a very quick turnaround of rumor to reveal, no more than a few days if that. It was very clear it had been rushed to be revealed after the finale. 13 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: It is tariffs because this is only in North America. Don’t be shocked that the company that we all know to cut costs wherever they can to increase profits doesn’t want to get less profits than they were initially planning because of tariffs which were implemented a month ago, after they had already set the August and June prices. Ya’ll should have seen this coming the moment Trump was elected. Tariffs were one of his big campaign pledges. (I’m not getting political, it’s just logic) The $1100 DS is gonna be crazy, I knew this day was coming; sad to see it come to pass though. However, TLG is finally building a factory (a huge one at that) in the US, so it’s only a matter of time before tariffs don’t matter. (I do think the decision to build a new factory in the US was partially in anticipation for the potential of tariffs; obviously not a majority of the reason, but future-proofing never hurts.) Will that bring prices down? Likely not. The fact that it only affects upcoming sets is a double edged sword(y): it means, obviously, older sets won’t be affected, but also means this will definitely be standard pricing for now on. I don’t think TLG is ready to cross over into quadruple digits just yet. $999.99 is enough of a news starter on its own. 11 hours ago, Llewop said: It must suck because it’s not even like licenses or inflation. Its going effect literally every theme in Lego in NA. Don’t know how big the NA market is overall for Lego but surely it’s going to take a big hit. I’d argue a pretty big percentage. They do place a large emphasis on this region, since for most of TLG’s history we Americans have been able to afford specialty goods like LEGO. The outcome could be that sales in North America go down, which would’ve happened price increases or not—even tariffs or not—or that sales stay roughly the same and profits go up. It could also mean we see more penny-pinching on set budgets to accommodate for lost income, which only continues the downward cycle into which we spiral. 6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: IIRC Vietnam and Mexico are both in talks with the US right now. And unless something changed SUPER recently, I believe Vietnam was about ready to accept terms. Which is part of why I think these increases are at best hasty and at worst a stunt- offsetting for tariffs multiple months out when they've been changing fairly consistently is an odd choice. … I heard North America as a whole, which if true, is another point in the "lego's just using this to raise prices wherever they can" because it's not like Mexico is tariffing itself or the sets make a U-turn across the border. A lot of great points in your post, I feel. Interntional deals and tariffs are shifting at the moment. Whether they stay or don’t is unclear, but TLG at the moment is being, as you say, hasty at best. Price increases and decreasing quality have been the only reasons TLG continues to have upward trends in profit. I hope a breaking point with consumers and LEGO loyalists is near. 5 hours ago, Rwbricks said: Star Wars: Starfighter, a new film directed by Shawn Levy and starring Ryan Gosling, has been officially announced with a May 28, 2027! A Star Wars film centered around my favourite aspect about SW—cool starfighters—starring Ken—releasing only three days after the 50th anniversary of Star Wars! HAHA! A dream come true! Cannot wait for the movie and I expect some cool “knock your socks off” sets from LEGO. I’m really itching for a Rogue Squadron movie around Wedge, but Shawn Levy has said that this is it’s own story and I find just as much appeal in that alone. @Agent Kallus, our man in the field! (Come to think of it, don’t believe that Tokyo has any fields.) I expect kindly ask for regular updates. Edited April 18 by Swordy Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted April 18 Posted April 18 7 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: .(Again given that nobody else seems to be listening to the mods) The media here switched pretty quickly from "will literally kill everyone" to "tariffs bad" after the election This is literally the most overtly political statement here. I think you should get off your horse, he's stoned. 3 hours ago, Llewop said: He’s also frozen tariff for 90 days didn’t he so we know Denmark (EU) or Mexico won’t be getting anymore higher and 3 months time most the sets will be waiting to go on the shelves so they had to plan it now. But I still am worried that it will lead to rest of the world prices going up at some point. If the Americans will buy it 10%+ more bet the Rest of the world will, that’s the kind of corporate greed that the whole world is a sucker for unfortunately. Yeah, even if the prices now are just for the US it's gonna set a bad precedent for the future. Quote
lego the hutt Posted April 18 Posted April 18 (edited) So how much will the new DS cost now? 1100$? Edited April 18 by lego the hutt Quote
Agent Kallus Posted April 18 Posted April 18 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Swordy said: @Agent Kallus, our man in the field! (Come to think of it, don’t believe that Tokyo has any fields.) I expect kindly ask for regular updates. Edit flipped incase people don't want to know- ˙uɐluᴉnQ sɐɥ plɹoʍɹǝpun ǝɥʇ ɟo sǝlɐ┴ ˙ʞoɹɹɐW puɐ ʇsɐʞ ʞooɹ pǝʍoɥs ɹǝlᴉɐɹ┴ ¡ʍoɥs lnɐW Edited April 18 by Agent Kallus Quote
MaximillianRebo Posted April 18 Posted April 18 58 minutes ago, Swordy said: However, TLG is finally building a factory (a huge one at that) in the US, so it’s only a matter of time before tariffs don’t matter. (I do think the decision to build a new factory in the US was partially in anticipation for the potential of tariffs; obviously not a majority of the reason, but future-proofing never hurts.) But what about the raw materials that are used in the production of sets? I know the US is one of the bigger producers of ABS plastic in the world, but can they produce enough locally to satisfy the demand of this new mega-factory? Even if the sets themselves aren't imports, any tariffs on international sourced materials will add to production costs and therefore the final point of sale price. And since it's going to be a few years until the factory opens, prices will presumably rise in the meantime. Even when the factory is fully operational - and for the sake of argument using 100% locally produced materials - those price increases are already baked in, and there's no way TLG is reducing prices just because tariffs no longer apply. I'm no economist and happy to be proved wrong, but I don't see the cork ever going back in the bottle on this one. Quote
Agent Kallus Posted April 18 Posted April 18 3 hours ago, Swordy said: If memory serves me right (it better), the Spider Tank was rumored beforehand, but the N-1 was a very quick turnaround of rumor to reveal, no more than a few days if that. It was very clear it had been rushed to be revealed after the finale. I knew this day was coming; sad to see it come to pass though. However, TLG is finally building a factory (a huge one at that) in the US, so it’s only a matter of time before tariffs don’t matter. (I do think the decision to build a new factory in the US was partially in anticipation for the potential of tariffs; obviously not a majority of the reason, but future-proofing never hurts.) Will that bring prices down? Likely not. The fact that it only affects upcoming sets is a double edged sword(y): it means, obviously, older sets won’t be affected, but also means this will definitely be standard pricing for now on. I don’t think TLG is ready to cross over into quadruple digits just yet. $999.99 is enough of a news starter on its own. I’d argue a pretty big percentage. They do place a large emphasis on this region, since for most of TLG’s history we Americans have been able to afford specialty goods like LEGO. The outcome could be that sales in North America go down, which would’ve happened price increases or not—even tariffs or not—or that sales stay roughly the same and profits go up. It could also mean we see more penny-pinching on set budgets to accommodate for lost income, which only continues the downward cycle into which we spiral. A lot of great points in your post, I feel. Interntional deals and tariffs are shifting at the moment. Whether they stay or don’t is unclear, but TLG at the moment is being, as you say, hasty at best. Price increases and decreasing quality have been the only reasons TLG continues to have upward trends in profit. I hope a breaking point with consumers and LEGO loyalists is near. A Star Wars film centered around my favourite aspect about SW—cool starfighters—starring Ken—releasing only three days after the 50th anniversary of Star Wars! HAHA! A dream come true! Cannot wait for the movie and I expect some cool “knock your socks off” sets from LEGO. I’m really itching for a Rogue Squadron movie around Wedge, but Shawn Levy has said that this is it’s own story and I find just as much appeal in that alone. @Agent Kallus, our man in the field! (Come to think of it, don’t believe that Tokyo has any fields.) I expect kindly ask for regular updates. That's the end of day one but I'll try and put a few updates in again tomorrow. 3 hours ago, Agent Kallus said: Personally I'd like something a bit further away in the timeline. May High or old republic but I know that nearer the movies is more likely. I know I said this but i don't even mind that it's between episode 3 and 4 again because I love Maul and this show looks pretty epic. I imagine we'll get a least one set hopefully more but given how they treated bad batch maybe not. Quote
Tariq j Posted April 18 Posted April 18 Both projects sound really fun. I’m hoping the Maul show will get sets but I won’t hold my breath. I’m hoping they really go all out with Starfighter - give us some really good new ships. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted April 18 Posted April 18 So far, every animated canon show had at least two sets, so I hope this won’t change now! This is also our best chance to finally get a Dryden Voss minifig Starfighter has a lot of set potential too, just like M&G, or even more so! The only issue I currently see with the latter is that we haven’t seen any new vehicles or variants yet. I’d be kinda sad if the minifigs were the only unique thing about the sets. Quote
MKJoshA Posted April 18 Author Posted April 18 The political jabs must stop. You can be on the right or the left and participate in a civil discussion. @Mandalorianknight made some good points, you can disagree, but @Renny The Spaceman your comment was out of line. I've hidden it due to it's attacking tone. I'm setting my foot down hard now because I don't want to have to freeze accounts or this thread all people have a difference in political opinion. We have so much content to talk about, let's focus on the news coming out of Celebration and not fighting. Quote
Virginia_Bricks Posted April 18 Posted April 18 5 hours ago, Swordy said: However, TLG is finally building a factory (a huge one at that) in the US, so it’s only a matter of time before tariffs don’t matter. (I do think the decision to build a new factory in the US was partially in anticipation for the potential of tariffs; obviously not a majority of the reason, but future-proofing never hurts.) The Virginia factory decision had nothing to do with the tariffs as it was announced in 2023. I'd expect it was more related to shipping costs given the US is the largest market for the company. Quote
Duke27 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 Darth Talon will appear in the new Maul series as his apprentice. I hope her role will be big enough and that LEGO will release her minifigure Quote
Brickadeer Posted April 18 Posted April 18 47 minutes ago, Duke27 said: Darth Talon will appear in the new Maul series as his apprentice. Source? Quote
Duke27 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 15 minutes ago, Brickadeer said: Source? Bespin Bulletin and the trailer from Star Wars celebration itself Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted April 18 Posted April 18 10 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Jokes aside, i’m curious to see who Ryan Gosling, who I’m guessing is part of a New New Republic or something, will be fighting in a space battle movie. My heart yearns for the Grysk or Chiss Ascendancy. But Lucasfilm logic dictates that it’s either pirates or Palpatine again. Also I have high hopes for this as A) Ryan Gosling is a great actor and his performances are usually gold standard (his Ken carried Barbie 2023 in my eyes) and in good films. B) He’s popular enough to generate an audience for the film outside of SW fans (no offence to Daisy Ridley) which should give Disney the confidence to actually release it. And C) Shawn Levy as director and writer is encouraging as he’s been writing the script for a few years now so it shouldn’t face MCU level problems, and he did an amazing job with Deadpool and Wolverine last year, showing he can do great service to established characters if any show up. So new leaked M&G trailer. I’m seeing snowtroopers with and without face coverings, beautiful AT ATs (looking a lot more like the Rebels version actually), AT RT, Razer Crest, Imperial base, the gladiator arena from Thor Ragnorok. I do love the look at the Imperial Commander I hope we get a minifigure, we need more imperial field officer minifigures. I believe it’s just Veers and Kallus currently. As for Mando himself: bro thinks he’s Daredevil. And it looks kriffing awesome. I really hope it's new pirates and that Gosling's part of a planetary defense force or something rather than the Newnew republic. I won't write the movie off if it is- this could easily be the sequel trilogy's Clone Wars, what gets more people to like the era- but as lucasfilm clearly knows, this is going to be viewed as a Ryan Gosling movie more than anything else, and I'd like if it was set on some NON-DESERT backwater somewhere and more disconnected from the wider galaxy. 10 hours ago, Agent Kallus said: I'm currently sat in the audience waiting for the animation panel, hopefully we get something big there! Subtle Foreshadowing Cool that you get to see all this firsthand! 2 hours ago, Duke27 said: Darth Talon will appear in the new Maul series as his apprentice. I hope her role will be big enough and that LEGO will release her minifigure I guarantee you it's gonna come out that either George asked them to do this or Filoni was inspired by George when he made the choice- this was one of his many iterations of his sequel trilogy. I don't have much of an attachment to Talon personally, but it'll be cool to see another legends character return to canon, and I'm happy for fans of the character. I know how I'd be feeling if they announced Mara or Karrde The Hand of Judgement. 1 hour ago, Brickadeer said: Source? Dave Filoni woke up the other day with George Lucas sitting at the foot of his bed, crimson saber in hand. He was displeased with the current state of star wars- not nearly enough ant-man compared to what he wanted to do. So he presented him with a choice- do what Lucas wanted to before selling to disney, canonize Darth Talon in the main timeline- or choke on your aspirations. Filoni evidently chose the former. Maul show was a surprise- I was sure it'd be a Ventress or Hidden Path show, even after the Tales trailer released. Glad to see it's a Maul show, interesting that it's a villain show- the logo also doesn't scream "family show" to me, I wonder if we might be making a forey into TV-14 animation. Quote
Something_Awesome Posted April 18 Posted April 18 (edited) Here's the funny thing about LEGO and tariffs. Most industries will adjust their prices up, as a result of tariffs, but they will also adjust them down. You will see this with major appliances like laundry machines and refrigerators. Also consumer electronics like TV's and phones. You will also see it in the auto industry. The prices will go down when (if) the tariffs are removed. There are a few companies though that will NOT reduce their prices. One of them is LEGO. LEGO has had a pricing issue for years, and if you're only going to be upset about pricing now, you're a little late. If you knew the budget for making models like the UCS Slave 1, you'd ask what the heck LEGO is doing trying to save 3 cents on young Boba's legs. LEGO is not a benevolent company. It knows that the Star Wars LEGO fans are almost exclusively adult now, with more disposable income than fans of other themes (on average) and will pay whatever price for a set, and then buy a second copy of the set to keep sealed. You seriously think the Desert Skiff on shelves now is priced in some way that correlates with the budget required to manufacturer the set? No. They overpriced it to a point that they believe will still sell, and this was before tariffs. Lastly, multiple countries are actually in a tariff war with China, so it is possible many countries see price increases. It is possible Australia may be the worst off since they, too are in a tariff war with China and all their LEGO stuff comes almost exclusively from China (correct me if I'm wrong). It all depends on if things escalate. I personally do not expect tariffs to hit LEGO in Australia. Edited April 18 by Something_Awesome Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted April 18 Posted April 18 I highly doubt it's gonna be Darth Talon in name though. Maul isn't a Sith anymore at this point and even intends to take his revenge on them (as he still does in Rebels), so it wouldn't make sense for his apprentice to get a Sith name. Character-wise, it could well be her, which is interesting as there once was a cancelled video game where Maul and Talon would have appeared together (which wouldn't have made any sense in the Legends continuity, given she was born loooooong after his death) Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted April 18 Posted April 18 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: I highly doubt it's gonna be Darth Talon in name though. Maul isn't a Sith anymore at this point and even intends to take his revenge on them (as he still does in Rebels), so it wouldn't make sense for his apprentice to get a Sith name. Character-wise, it could well be her, which is interesting as there once was a cancelled video game where Maul and Talon would have appeared together (which wouldn't have made any sense in the Legends continuity, given she was born loooooong after his death) I didn't even know she was going to be in the game- Lucas really wanted her into the main saga's timeframe, huh? But yes, it'll probably just be Talon. 1 hour ago, Something_Awesome said: You seriously think the Desert Skiff on shelves now is priced in some way that correlates with the budget required to manufacturer the set? No. They overpriced it to a point that they believe will still sell, and this was before tariffs. I still haven't seen it on sale anywhere either. It's not even that they believe it will still sell, it appears to indeed still be selling. As War Games almost said, the only way to win is not to buy. Whatever the reason, if you think the price is too high, don't spend the money. Edited April 18 by Mandalorianknight Quote
Llewop Posted April 18 Posted April 18 (edited) I’m probably on my own for this but I’m not at all excited about this Maul series, like he’s been done. The animation lot needs to stop flogging this dead horse and be brave and try something new. Going to sound like an angry old man but the current popular trend of rewatching the same series over again and replaying the same games and all that is just so tiring. Keep seeing people want more Clone Wars stories or a Vader series (as if the whole saga isn’t about Vader anyway). Most of the Disney plus series have been trying to fix the ST and adding bits to it when maybe what the ST needs for it’s popularity is a fully fledged animation series (I know resistance exists) that fleshes out that era in a good way. Maybe I just don’t get the hype around the character like he got cut in half and killed somehow survived did some stuff got beat by a teenager did some more stuff then dies again. There must be more characters out there in SW that have a story to explore. also had a cheeky look at the Mandolorian and Grogu trailer and you know they are going to do a new AT-AT and I’m kind of torn because I got the last (non UCS) one but I want to get more imperial remnants in my collection. Edited April 18 by Llewop Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted April 18 Posted April 18 32 minutes ago, Llewop said: I’m probably on my own for this but I’m not at all excited about this Maul series, like he’s been done. I'm excited for four reasons: There is a story to tell since we don't know what happened to him between him escaping from Mandalore in TCW S7 and showing up on Malachor in Rebels S2. Him figuring out about the temple and its secrets with the potential for new Sith lore sounds exciting! A show focussing on a bad guy has never been done before in SW. Maul has been an interesting character to me ever since they brought him back in TCW and Witwer is excellent in the role. The fight scenes are gonna be awesome. We already know he's gonna defeat/kill at least one Inquisitor since his lightsaber in Rebels is a broken Inquisitor lightsaber and the Seventh Sister and Fifth Brother are visibly afraid of him, as if he's the boogeyman among the Inquisitorius, and probably for good reason Quote
ArrowBricks Posted April 18 Posted April 18 It’s a big IF, but what if Jango will have the headset face print in the system-scale set this summer… Would make business sense, giving the UCS set owners an incentive to buy the smaller version. After all, the minifigures are surprisingly bad, especially the Boba, which is also rumoured to be an improvement in the smaller version (which makes zero sense, mind). Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Llewop said: also had a cheeky look at the Mandolorian and Grogu trailer and you know they are going to do a new AT-AT and I’m kind of torn because I got the last (non UCS) one but I want to get more imperial remnants in my collection. You don’t need to worry about getting the exact same model. The AT AT in the trailer is not the same variant as the traditional Hoth ones. It’s more in line with the version we see in rebels. If you want reassurance: observe the spherical turrets situated on the cockpit’s sides and the how the viewport curves round the said sides more like the ITT rather than the traditional single red slit of the Hoth ATAT. Also the interior appears to be one hollow structure, very different to the multi floored load-out displayed in detail by the UCS model. I’m currently going to guess this is a given set. The question is if the AT RT is included or sold separately. Either way, figs I’d guess would be: the officer, 2 tank drivers, Mando and 2-3 Snowtroopers (hopefully without the face covering, I like how the helmets look like skulls without them) Another question is how is Lego going to do the interior? Previous play-scale AT ATs have never had interiors as large and detailed as what’s evidently required for this. That’s largely due to the fact Luke never entered the AT AT, and therefore Lego had the opportunity to be minimalistic. Mando on the other hand needs crates and weapon racks as well as seating. Hopefully we’ll get some good announcements tomorrow. And even if there’s nothing public we have our very own Manny Bothans. Zero Company trailer is probably a given though. Maybe RTG season 2 trailer as the Lego panel is tomorrow. Edited April 18 by CloneCommando99 Quote
Agent Kallus Posted April 18 Posted April 18 5 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: The fight scenes are gonna be awesome. We already know he's gonna defeat/kill at least one Inquisitor since his lightsaber in Rebels is a broken Inquisitor lightsaber and the Seventh Sister and Fifth Brother are visibly afraid of him, as if he's the boogeyman among the Inquisitorius, and probably for good reason Yeah I've think they've stepped up the fight scenes. ˙ǝlɐuᴉɟ MƆ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʇɥƃᴉɟ ɐʞosɥ∀ Λ lnɐW ǝʞᴉl uᴉɐƃɐ pǝddɐɔoɯ ʇᴉ pᴉp ʎǝɥʇ ǝʞᴉl sʞool s,ʇɐɥʇ sǝlɐʇ ɟo ǝposᴉdǝ ssǝɹʇuǝΛ ʇsɹᴉɟ ǝɥʇ uᴉ ǝɔuǝnbǝs ʇɥƃᴉɟ ɐ s,ǝɹǝɥ┴ 2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: I highly doubt it's gonna be Darth Talon in name though. Maul isn't a Sith anymore at this point and even intends to take his revenge on them (as he still does in Rebels), so it wouldn't make sense for his apprentice to get a Sith name. Character-wise, it could well be her, which is interesting as there once was a cancelled video game where Maul and Talon would have appeared together (which wouldn't have made any sense in the Legends continuity, given she was born loooooong after his death) Yeah I think she's a stand in for Darth Talon, she'll probably have a different name and she looks different (she's pink not red but I suppose she could get tattooed) and I doubt they'd put her in Talon's outfit, but she's clearly meant to fill the role Talon had in George's Sequel treatment. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted April 18 Posted April 18 So we now have yet another new rumour about 75413, with the source claiming it's the Stun Tank from the Zillo Beast arc of TCW Did we ever have a set before that was rumoured to be one of three things?! Not sure how I'd feel about the Stun Tank since it'd be a new vehicle, but one that has even less to do with Galactic Marines than the CTT. Quote
JohnTPT17 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 12 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: So we now have yet another new rumour about 75413, with the source claiming it's the Stun Tank from the Zillo Beast arc of TCW Let's just call 75413 "Schrödinger's Battle Tank" for now, apparently. Either the photos the leakers are looking at are super blurry and they are just guessing, or (and this is a long shot) it's a Creator-style set that allows you to build one of multiple different tanks. Quote
Tariq j Posted April 18 Posted April 18 It definitely sounds like they’re looking at a very blurry photo. I could see how a UT-AT and the Zillo Beast gun could be confused with one another. I don’t think it would make much sense with the Galactic Marines would it? My money is still on it being the Turbo Tank. Quote
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