CloneCommando99 Posted May 7 Posted May 7 10 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: I haven‘t seen the third arc of Andor S2 yet, but since we can now talk about the last arc, I gotta say I have to apologise to S1 a bit Some of the issues I had before are still there (like the „show don‘t tell“ rule being broken A LOT where character‘s fates are often only talked about or being implied, rather than actually being shown), but S2 finally justifies why we spent so much time with certain characters whose plotlines didn‘t really go anywhere that season. And while the chances for a TIE Avenger set are still in the toilet, I‘m joining the lobbying group here anyway I know right. ”Welcome to the rebellion.” Day #16 of Tie Avenger bargaining. (Krennic, test Pilot Cassian, Range Trooper and a stormtrooper would be perfect.) 8 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said: All the good air comes from overseas. So America is just Thneedville from The Lorax? 12 hours ago, Kaijumeister said: The ‘we want more Andor S2 sets’ monkey’s paw curls and instead of a TIE Avenger, we get a £60 Maya Pei Brigade Battle Pack full of minifigures with new moulds and arm printing. I can see a hypothetical TIE Avenger just including three minifigures; whilst the ARC-170 and U-Wing technically come with four ‘characters’, one of them is a droid in both instances - conversely the V-19 allegedly only includes three minifigures. I’d honestly take it. Great parts pack for both rebel guerrillas, civilians and pirates . Good point. So maybe Cassian, Range Trooper, Stormtrooper and the datapad droid? 2026 news! Please be swift in your arrival! Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted May 8 Posted May 8 18 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Not betting on it, but what I‘m the most curious about regarding the August wave is whether the minifig lists are entirely accurate. The CTT‘s is for sure, but maybe there‘s still more to the MTT than just Bly, Aayla, and 10 BDs. A green Duros in the RTG set also sounds strange, unless that‘s a new character in S2 Probably wishful thinking tho! I assumed the green duros was light side cad bane, but maybe they're adapting everyone's favorite character, *joke I can't make since TOTU isn't a week old yet* 16 hours ago, Kaijumeister said: The ‘we want more Andor S2 sets’ monkey’s paw curls and instead of a TIE Avenger, we get a £60 Maya Pei Brigade Battle Pack full of minifigures with new moulds and arm printing. If the value is actually there with all the new moulds and printing, I wouldn't mind using them for generic rebels, especially given how long it's been since our last rebel battle pack. 13 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Still some weaknesses here and there (like some characters‘ deaths being rather random and some subplots being too drawn out for my liking, looking at you, jungle idiots). Also, where‘s K2? I guess he’ll only show up in the final arc? Boooooooo! I'm only a few episodes in, but unless it's unacknowledged by the characters I don't mind random deaths. They worked very well in rogue one, they fit a "realistic" show like this, and if it's the good guys it helps dissuade this silly "imperials can't aim" notion that comes from misreading the OT. I appear to be like the only person here who likes the jungle idiots storyline. I really like seeing a sort of explanation for why a wider rebel alliance is so important- disparate groups can't accomplish nearly as much and EASILY fall to infighting without access to the proper information, much less the damage different cells can do to eachother. It also serves as a show, don't tell for how much training and experience Cassian's received in the past year, manipulating the situation and showing that unlike them, he absolutely knows what to do in the scenario they've found themselves in. As for K2 I don't remember when the comic takes place but I'm assuming changing the circumstances of it would be enough and they didn't want to alter the timeline. I really hope they don't retcon the Mon Mothma scenes in rebels- they seem to be building to it and her speech is kind of a major moment for the character, but my dislike of retcons aside retconning an animated series would be a HUGE crack in the new canon. Comics and books are one thing, decanonizing part of rebels would be a major step up (or down, really.). Quote
AD_Bricks Posted May 8 Posted May 8 9 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: I really hope they don't retcon the Mon Mothma scenes in rebels- they seem to be building to it and her speech is kind of a major moment for the character, but my dislike of retcons aside retconning an animated series would be a HUGE crack in the new canon. Comics and books are one thing, decanonizing part of rebels would be a major step up (or down, really.). I'm hoping that some of the people working on the show had Rebels on their mind after Ahsoka brought back a bunch of the characters, they surely can't just have completely overlooked it Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted May 8 Posted May 8 5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: […] retconning an animated series would be a HUGE crack in the new canon. Comics and books are one thing, decanonizing part of rebels would be a major step up (or down, really.). The events of Rebels are still 100% canon, as they did a really good job making sure to align with that. As for a certain comic: wellllllllll… (Saying new episodes of a show are still canon with another show isn‘t considered a spoiler I hope ) Quote
BrickPrick Posted May 8 Posted May 8 Day #3 of asking Lego not to massacre the upcoming Clone Turbo Tank. In favor of a more detailed and sizable build, i would be fine with a possible TIE Avenger, based on the first episode's opening, to only include three minifigs. Them being Cassian Andor in his test pilot suit, a Range Trooper and a Stormtrooper. Maybe add that droid for good measure. But yeah, it wouldn't exactly be the first time that a comparable set only comes with three full figs either. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted May 8 Posted May 8 22 minutes ago, BrickPrick said: Day #3 of asking Lego not to massacre the upcoming Clone Turbo Tank. Not sure why people fear it‘s gonna be a disaster Yes, the set‘s undeniably overpriced, but the piece count is comparable to previous models. I‘m cautiously optimistic! Quote
CallumPears Posted May 8 Posted May 8 13 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Not sure why people fear it‘s gonna be a disaster Yes, the set‘s undeniably overpriced, but the piece count is comparable to previous models. I‘m cautiously optimistic! It has approximately 100 fewer pieces than the previous version from 2016, which was already quite downsized, and a significant number of those (about 1/8 of the sets entire count) are used in the wheels which were previously larger pieces so didn't add to the count as much. And the wheels are smaller than any previous version, with the maths working out as the upcoming one being 87% of the length of the 2016 version if they scale the whole model with the wheels. I just hope they do the Marines well enough, but not hopeful since if ever there was a figure that really needed a cloth kama it's them. Quote
BrickPrick Posted May 8 Posted May 8 (edited) 44 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Not sure why people fear it‘s gonna be a disaster Yes, the set‘s undeniably overpriced, but the piece count is comparable to previous models. I‘m cautiously optimistic! Because unlike other shrunken down models, the previous Turbo Tank was already decently downsized. This one will be pretty clearly even smaller than that and might break boundaries of what a system scale set (at this price point no less) is supposed to be. I want to be cautiously optimistic about this one, but ever since the leaks with the brick-build wheels, this has been proven quite difficult for me. Still anticipating the official reveal or some more concrete leaks, though. 26 minutes ago, CallumPears said: It has approximately 100 fewer pieces than the previous version from 2016, which was already quite downsized, and a significant number of those (about 1/8 of the sets entire count) are used in the wheels which were previously larger pieces so didn't add to the count as much. And the wheels are smaller than any previous version, with the maths working out as the upcoming one being 87% of the length of the 2016 version if they scale the whole model with the wheels. I just hope they do the Marines well enough, but not hopeful since if ever there was a figure that really needed a cloth kama it's them. Yep. Oh man, i really regret not getting the 2016 version when it was still available. Because other than getting some nice minifigures at long last... the build will probably end up being disappointing, especially at this price tag. Like, i'm not even against the idea of a CTT for 150/160 bucks in 2025. That's hardly surprising after the Coruscant Gunship or the AT-TE. I just have a tough time seeing the value proposition. Even as someone who doesn't care a great deal about PPP. Edited May 8 by BrickPrick Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted May 8 Posted May 8 3 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Not sure why people fear it‘s gonna be a disaster Yes, the set‘s undeniably overpriced, but the piece count is comparable to previous models. I‘m cautiously optimistic! Essentially between the brick built wheels and altogether lower piece count, best-case scenario the body is ~150-200 pieces smaller than the last one, assuming no side builds, which was already fairly undersized, and of course lego trends towards larger numbers of smaller pieces. I'm not saying I'd prefer a set the size of the 2010 tank if it also had that level of detailing, but for the piece count (and size) of the main body to be so much less than the 2016 model and yet about as expensive accounting for inflation is a bad sign. Also, price is a major factor, no? Like looking at the international price without any changes of $150 or equivalent, that's bad. That's INSANE for an 830 piece set that we now know doesn't have any big molded wheels and seems to only have four minifigures. That is really bad. Price should always be a big factor in sets- you could have the best $20 battle pack in the world, with an expertly designed build and figures detailed out the wazoo, but if you try to charge me $70, it's a disaster of a set. Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted May 8 Posted May 8 4 hours ago, BrickPrick said: Oh man, i really regret not getting the 2016 version when it was still available. Because other than getting some nice minifigures at long last... the build will probably end up being disappointing, especially at this price tag. Like, i'm not even against the idea of a CTT for 150/160 bucks in 2025. That's hardly surprising after the Coruscant Gunship or the AT-TE. I just have a tough time seeing the value proposition. Even as someone who doesn't care a great deal about PPP. Honestly if you're in the market for a CTT you could just buy one of the older ones used, I doubt the new one will look even halfway decent. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted May 8 Posted May 8 Just finished watching Episode 8 of Andor S2. Wow… just wow. I think that’s some of the best SW I’ve ever watched. It’s made me feel things about a SW project which I haven’t felt since Victory and Death released, and even then to a greater extent. If Acolyte is what it took to get this… it was worth it. Can’t wait to watch 9 tomorrow. Day #17 of Tie Avenger lobbying (I am also rather enticed by the imperial troop transport speeder (not the ITT) and the riot control speeder which have popped up in quite a few episodes now) 2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Essentially between the brick built wheels and altogether lower piece count, best-case scenario the body is ~150-200 pieces smaller than the last one, assuming no side builds, which was already fairly undersized, and of course lego trends towards larger numbers of smaller pieces. I'm not saying I'd prefer a set the size of the 2010 tank if it also had that level of detailing, but for the piece count (and size) of the main body to be so much less than the 2016 model and yet about as expensive accounting for inflation is a bad sign. Also, price is a major factor, no? Like looking at the international price without any changes of $150 or equivalent, that's bad. That's INSANE for an 830 piece set that we now know doesn't have any big molded wheels and seems to only have four minifigures. That is really bad. Price should always be a big factor in sets- you could have the best $20 battle pack in the world, with an expertly designed build and figures detailed out the wazoo, but if you try to charge me $70, it's a disaster of a set. Can’t wait for this to be the SW Hoopty (no one will buy it full price) Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted May 8 Posted May 8 2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Just finished watching Episode 8 of Andor S2. Wow… just wow. I think that’s some of the best SW I’ve ever watched. It’s made me feel things about a SW project which I haven’t felt since Victory and Death released, and even then to a greater extent. If Acolyte is what it took to get this… it was worth it. Can’t wait to watch 9 tomorrow. I agree it was a masterpiece, You're in for a treat tomorrow too. Quote
Swordy Posted May 8 Posted May 8 (edited) 2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Just finished watching Episode 8 of Andor S2. Wow… just wow. I think that’s some of the best SW I’ve ever watched. It’s made me feel things about a SW project which I haven’t felt since Victory and Death released, and even then to a greater extent. Can’t wait to watch 9 tomorrow. Episode 9 won’t disappoint. This arc (I refuse Gilroy’s term of “blocks,” thank you) is mindblowingly spectacular. It’s tied with the Narkina arc for me as some of the best SW ever (a nice complimentary pair, the two make). I loved it so much I was compelled to buy the LEGO U-Wing at full price the day after; I await when I get the chance to build it. Edited May 8 by Swordy Quote
Kaijumeister Posted May 9 Posted May 9 Yeah, this week’s arc was just…wow. I’m normally more into the mystical Force-related stories but the storytelling and messages in Andor transcend the Star Wars brand entirely. How I wish we got at least one more set from this show, but at the same time I can also understand why we didn’t. Quote
Nobricksleft Posted May 9 Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Kaijumeister said: Yeah, this week’s arc was just…wow. I’m normally more into the mystical Force-related stories but the storytelling and messages in Andor transcend the Star Wars brand entirely. How I wish we got at least one more set from this show, but at the same time I can also understand why we didn’t. I'm a huge Andor fan since S1 and with more sets supposedly marketed for adults now, why not give us more locations, vehicules and characters from the show. They have already committed to the U-Wing and K-2. I still have hope. Quote
wesker Posted May 9 Posted May 9 4 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Day #17 of Tie Avenger lobbying (I am also rather enticed by the imperial troop transport speeder (not the ITT) and the riot control speeder which have popped up in quite a few episodes now) I can live without the troop transports. I'm happy just getting the TIE Avenger and Luthen's Haulcraft before moving on from the show for good. The latter would be a good opportunity to wrap up any missing characters from the show that don't appear elsewhere. Regardless whether there's anymore Andor sets or not I'm hoping we at least get some coverage for Rogue One's 10th anniversary next year. They've already gone to the effort of bringing back K-2SO and the Death Trooper molds that it would be a shame not to reuse them. Bringing back the Shore Troopers, giving consumers an affordable alternative for Krennic outside the UCS Death Star and covering any missing characters like Two Tubes, Melshi and Draven would also be good. We're also long overdue for a new Mon Mothma minifigure. As great as she's been in Andor I do still prefer getting her classic rebel leader look from ROTJ/Rogue One first. Quote
AD_Bricks Posted May 9 Posted May 9 1 hour ago, wesker said: We're also long overdue for a new Mon Mothma minifigure. As great as she's been in Andor I do still prefer getting her classic rebel leader look from ROTJ/Rogue One first. Agreed, and even then I don't know that she has one single outfit from Andor that I'd rather get over any others. As long as we get a face print and hair for her, I'm happy with just switching out her outfit for other parts in my collection to use as a figure for Andor. Quote
TeddytheSpoon Posted May 9 Posted May 9 7 hours ago, Swordy said: I loved it so much I was compelled to buy the LEGO U-Wing at full price the day after; I await when I get the chance to build it. I'm going to be in the same boat I think. I was already planning to get it but now I'm itching to get my hands on it. (I still think it could've had one more good guy figure included, but I'll take the selection it does have.) Quote
BrickPrick Posted May 9 Posted May 9 15 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said: Honestly if you're in the market for a CTT you could just buy one of the older ones used, I doubt the new one will look even halfway decent. I appreciate your advice. Even though, except a selected few minifigures, i have never bought any Lego sets in used condition. While i just know the new CTT will definitely end up being a drastically overpriced set, i would have gotten it at a deep discount later on anyways. And yes, the FOMO in regards to my beloved Glup Shitto Troopers will be strong with this one. But if it has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, then yeah... i might consider getting the old one for a somewhat reasonable price. Day #4 of asking Lego not to mess up the upcoming Clone Turbo Tank. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted May 9 Posted May 9 (edited) @Darth_Bane13, @Swordy Just watched episode 9. Holy kriff, you guys weren’t kidding. That was one heck of an emotional roller coaster. Day #17 of Tie Avenger requests. But Lucas damn, we just need more Andor sets in general. Mon’s Speeder, Riot Speeder, Troop Speeder, Narkina 5, Partisan/ early X-Wings, Fondor Haulcraft… I’ll take anything. I’ll happily reward Lego just for acknowledging this masterpiece. 17 hours ago, wesker said: Regardless whether there's anymore Andor sets or not I'm hoping we at least get some coverage for Rogue One's 10th anniversary next year. They've already gone to the effort of bringing back K-2SO and the Death Trooper molds that it would be a shame not to reuse them. Bringing back the Shore Troopers, giving consumers an affordable alternative for Krennic outside the UCS Death Star and covering any missing characters like Two Tubes, Melshi and Draven would also be good. Hard agree. I was already in the pro Rogue One sets camp. But another great thing about Andor is that it’s retroactively making Rogue One, which is already a very solid movie, even better with small details. I need Zeta Class, Tie Reaper, Scariff citadel, etc… ASAP. 7 hours ago, BrickPrick said: Day #4 of asking Lego not to mess up the upcoming Clone Turbo Tank. Like the optimism. But at this point it’s a given that this one is KUBAR. Edited May 9 by CloneCommando99 Quote
CallumPears Posted May 9 Posted May 9 7 hours ago, BrickPrick said: And yes, the FOMO in regards to my beloved Glup Shitto Troopers will be strong with this one. Yeah the Marines are the only thing I care about from that set (unless it does somehow turn out to be a UT-AT after all and this whole thing has been an elaborate ruse). Hopefully they go into a magazine or something like the 212th troopers did since this set is a similar concept to the AT-TE. (Also assuming they don't mess them up in some way in which case I just wouldn't care about them lol.) 41 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said: KUBAR Lol took me a minute to figure this one out And yeah any Rogue One or Andor sets would be a blessing Quote
BrickPrick Posted May 9 Posted May 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said: Like the optimism. But at this point it’s a given that this one is KUBAR. Like i said, it's difficult to even be cautiously optimistic about this one anymore. You just inspired me to be a cheap copy cat, so i'm playing my own "too little - too late" kinda game now. But what does KUBAR stand for; you mean when something is beyond aid? @CallumPears Yes, i'm fairly confident the GA will make it into the Lego Magazine. And i will take fully advantage of that. As for messing up the minifig... Well, hopefully not beyond Lego's usual shortcomings, like worse than the printed waist capes. Anyways, you guys think we actually gonna make it to set 76000 one day? Edited May 9 by BrickPrick Quote
AD_Bricks Posted May 10 Posted May 10 10 hours ago, BrickPrick said: Anyways, you guys think we actually gonna make it to set 76000 one day? Set 76000 is a 2013 Batman set It does seem like LEGO Star Wars (at least since LEGO stopped using 4-digit set numbers for mainline sets) kinda just has most of the numbers between 75000 and 75999 reserved for it (excluding some for Harry Potter, Overwatch, and maybe other themes idk, e.g. 75954 Great Hall), but I do wonder where it'll go once they run out of 75___ numbers. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted May 10 Posted May 10 12 hours ago, BrickPrick said: But what does KUBAR stand for; you mean when something is beyond aid? Kriffed Up Beyond All Recognition Day #18 of Tie Avenger lobbying. When we getting the full DS fig list? Also, is the GWP confirmed to be a standard Tie? If not, I reckon it will be an obscure Tie (Raptor would work very well with the current piece count) or Vader’s Tie. Quote
BrickPrick Posted May 10 Posted May 10 2 hours ago, AD_Bricks said: Set 76000 is a 2013 Batman set It does seem like LEGO Star Wars (at least since LEGO stopped using 4-digit set numbers for mainline sets) kinda just has most of the numbers between 75000 and 75999 reserved for it (excluding some for Harry Potter, Overwatch, and maybe other themes idk, e.g. 75954 Great Hall), but I do wonder where it'll go once they run out of 75___ numbers. Ha, i knew i had to research every Lego set in existence before asking such a question. But yeah, i was basically just asking wether or not Lego Star Wars will reach this end of the line (~75999). And if it does, what happens next. Seeing it took them like a dozen or so years for even reaching the halfway point (that's with some skipped set numbers), i know it's probably gonna be a while. See you in 2037, then. What i will say, though, regardless of set numbers, i hope they stick with the 2022 introduced (and not at all inspired by The Black Series) box art for a long time. 42 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said: Kriffed Up Beyond All Recognition Day #18 of Tie Avenger lobbying. When we getting the full DS fig list? Also, is the GWP confirmed to be a standard Tie? If not, I reckon it will be an obscure Tie (Raptor would work very well with the current piece count) or Vader’s Tie. Ah, gotcha. I figured out everything but the K. I think we are gonna get the full minifigure list for the Death Star starting next month, when i expect the summer wave to be leaked in more detail as well. So, this GWP is not supposed to be the equivalent of last year's Imperial Dropship vs. Rebel Scout Trooper set, right? Do we even know if there will be another one of these shop exclusives this year? Day #5 of asking Lego not to blow up the upcoming Clone Turbo Tank. Quote
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