Prohibition Mafia: Day Three

[JimBee]

Unfortunately, I think you are right. I once read a novel titled, "Noir Mafia," and the Mafia Boss in it couldn't be killed at night. I think that is what is happening here, with Mr. Right as the Mafia Boss.

Wrong. If I remember correctly (which I do, mind you), clever Mr. Buscemi could be killed at night, but he would come up as town if investigated.

[WhiteFang]

This is a possibility. but also, why would the mafia waste their kill on someone who was already suspected, and why would Mr. Right tell the whole town of what went down the night before if he himself had something to hide, I'm guessing he was protected! It makes sense, because If the killer had been blocked, leading to a success, then the blocker would have blocked the same person, but the mafia killed last night, so they were obviously not blocked!

First of all, when Mr. Right tells the whole town, the actual wordings were not really said by him, but in actual fact, arranged by the ones, high up for him to said it, because it was a known fact that this situation happened in Night 1, and for whatever reasons, we don't have the details as in what has happened. We can't be very certain.

I think that Mr. Right has some sort of role that makes him tell the town he was blocked/protected. There's simply no other explanation. I'm thinking it might be a handicap of some sort if he is the mafia boss.

That might be just possible as what Dr. Ernie has just mentioned above, with regards to the Noir Reference.

I'm not sure what you mean. What I told you were the theories brought up on Day 2.

Thanks Roy for helping me to summarise those theories which are brought up in Day 2.

I'm still unsure about the three killer thing. Unless there have been some amazingly accurate blocks, why wouldn't there have been more night kills?

Let me try and put this in a simple case scenario based on the "Opening Scenes" so far, and this is normally the place to watch out for patterns and the threat which we are facing.

Night 1 results

Lois Jackson (Striker) was killed by a mysterious vigilante whom wield a rapier. This is their conversation before Lois met her doom.

“Hi there Lois, it’s nice to see you again.”

“Oh, uh, hi.”

“I’m sorry Lois, I’m afraid I’m going to have to kill you.”

“Awww, there goes my winning streak for Mafia Games!”

There were no other visible protection or block taking place from other citizens whom have gifted powers.

There was only one murder.

Mr. Right reported that he barricaded himself inside the Court Office when someone is attempting to break in and approach him at night for unknown reason.

Conclusion: Either a loyal/serial/scum vigilante murdered Lois. Mr. Right is having some sort of mysterious barricade in place. One of the two possible killers didn't strike at night.

Night 2 results

Mary Jackson (Eskallon) was saved by our Governor and was sent to a Nursing School due to the threat of a mysterious vigilante.

Martin Jackson (YG-49) was murdered by the scumbag vigilante that used a machine gun when he met a "mafia car" upon escaping the town.

There were no other visible protection or block taking place from other citizens whom have gifted powers.

There were two murders, and a possible serial killer as well due to speculation such as targeting the Jackson family for a special reason.

Conclusion: We don't know if there is three killers anot, but one thing for sure, by comparing both opening scenes, it appears that the scum vigilante has taken action on Night 2 instead of Night 1 since there is no clear specification or clue which regards to that. Please note that vigilantes can choose to use or not to use their actions at night.

[Shadows]

Listening to all of this, it seems like there should be a few people who know the truth, and some of them could be loyal.

1. Whoever killed Lois. Could have been the mob, could have been a vigilante, I guess it could even be a serial killer, but whoever it is, knows what they are and therefore knows if the mob did that or not.

2. Whoever 'killed' Mary. Same thing, except we know it isn't the mob, since the mob killed her father.

If you're the vigilante and you've made a mistake or two, don't feel bad, it's very hard to tell who to trust, none of us are doing a good job of it right now. Just remember that not trusting anyone is going to leave us confused and looking for the wrong person. If we know what is happening, maybe someone can protect you while better choices are made and the right people are killed.

Further, we can speculate that there is someone out there who can block people from doing things. If so, they may be able to look at who they've blocked to figure out why killings happen on certain nights and not others, then they might be able to guess/experiment by blocking the same people again and seeing if the pattern holds. That could reveal the mob killer, especially considering no mob death on night 1 (unless Lois was a mob hit, which then brings the courthouse situation back into question). Speaking of the courthouse situation, I don't think Mr. Right would have revealed what occurred had it not been for it being mentioned by the voices from the sky. That doesn't indicate innocence or guilt, just that he had no choice but to confirm it.

The voting has been a bad indicator so far, since all of the votes have either been wrong or can't be verified without other people dying.

Still, by using what we know and not going overboard with quick accusations, we can figure this out.

We just have to find some kind of trust to work together and protect each other while stopping these scum. Can we try that before we make another big mistake?

[Quarryman]

Yaaawn. There is another option worth considering, that the mob can either kill or recruit someone at night, in that case it could be that they didn't attempt a murder on Night 1. Not saying this is what happened, but it's an option worth considering, we don't know how the mob operates after all.

I'm also very curious about how Dr. Wilkerson can "know for a fact that we have three killers in our town.". Any comments, doctor?

[The Crazy One]

Oh good grief! Another two townies! How many are leaft? I think we have lost four!

Today, I make a suggestion. The townies killed in the day, were killled by people following the crowd. I say we really need to think before we vote, if that's not too hard for you people. No more townies must die.

[Big Cam]

I think it's safe to assume that a vigilante attacked Mary.

Why would you assume this, with possible 3 killers, why point the vigilante at Mary, unless you know somenthing, perhaps too much?

Using logic, we determined that it was likely the vigilante/serial killer killed Lois. Since Lois' name came up on day one, it would make sense for the Mafia to let the town vote her off on their own. As a vigilante, it would make sense to try to follow the town's suspicions.

maybe this is what you want us to think?

YOu seem to know alot about the vigilante's actions.

[Bob]

The roar of engines were heard, as a few army vehicles thundered down the street, stopping at the town square. A few soldiers exited, as well as Major Legois, and then the vehicles drove down the road to drop off more soldiers elsewhere.

"Hello Governor, sir!" the Major saluted.

"Any relation to my dead assistant?" The Governor asked.

"No, sir!"

"My name is Captain Butcher, and I will be enforcing the Martial Law that will be in place for tonight."

"I thought you were coming at the end of the day." a townie said.

"We were, but we made great time on the highway." The Major said.

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You may not vote yet, and there will be no usage of Night Actions tonight.

[Zapper Brick]

I would like to hear a bit more of the Mayor's reasoning for voting for Mary yesterday, as it was very weak in my opinion.

Mary? You mean Martin? Yes, well, that. I see that he was indeed a Townie, abliet one fooled by the mob.

[Sandy]

Ah, now the mobsters are finally making their moves, thus revealing themselves.

No. There is no definite evidence saying that Mr. Right is targted by a scum hitman. Remember barricading ownself in a courthouse means one person whom is using the night action couldn't reached him as there are barricades. Therefore, such possible scenarios include "protecting", "killing", "blocking" and "investigating". We can't just assume lightly and think that Mr. Right is innocent. Even I, myself is also subjected to everyone's suspicions. There is no way to do this in a safe manner, but we must trust our instinct as a whole, to get the best possible results.

I am aware that nothing has proven me innocent yet, but seriously, Lois was the second-most suspected person on Day 1, why would the scum kill her off (with a rapier, too, instead of the machine gun they used last night).

And where does this "third killer" mumbojumbo come from? Oh yeah, you. I've suspected you since yesterday, Mr. Willis, and your frantic theories prove to me that you are scum.

I now know for a fact that we have three killers in our town.

Unfortunately, I think you are right. I once read a novel titled, "Noir Mafia," and the Mafia Boss in it couldn't be killed at night. I think that is what is happening here, with Mr. Right as the Mafia Boss.

And I know "for a fact" that you are scum as well, Dr. Wilkerson, since you seem awfully keen on following Mr. Willis' theories. This must be a mob scheme.

Of course I'm not the Mafia Boss, what kind of an idiot do you think this town is?! I've been the loudest mouth here to reveal all "secret mafia techniques" and thus someone tried to kill me on Night 1. If I really was the leader of the Mafia, why would have I risked so much right from the start?

This is a possibility. but also, why would the mafia waste their kill on someone who was already suspected, and why would Mr. Right tell the whole town of what went down the night before if he himself had something to hide, I'm guessing he was protected! It makes sense, because If the killer had been blocked, leading to a success, then the blocker would have blocked the same person, but the mafia killed last night, so they were obviously not blocked!

Exactly. Someone must've either protected me or blocked the killer, or else I wouldn't be here.

Speaking of the courthouse situation, I don't think Mr. Right would have revealed what occurred had it not been for it being mentioned by the voices from the sky. That doesn't indicate innocence or guilt, just that he had no choice but to confirm it.

No, I couldn't have revealed it myself, because I haven't received any private messages from the governor during this whole game of life. Since I don't have a night action, just a hiding ability, I don't get any confirmation messages.

In any case, I warn you, citizens of Stapleton, not to let yourselves to be lead on by ludicrous theories - too many times the scum has won using that tactic. Right now I would keep your eyes on Mr. Willis/WhiteFang and Dr. Wilkerson/Ricecracker, because they both are trying to mess with your heads. They both have been very careful not to make a fuss before today. Thus, I am quite confident that they both are guilty, and if I'm wrong, you may just as well vote me off tomorrow.

[Inconspicuous]

Why would you assume this, with possible 3 killers, why point the vigilante at Mary, unless you know somenthing, perhaps too much?

I think there are only two, and that the Mafia is trying to confuse us. I meant the vigilante/serial killer, since it is not clear which they are.

maybe this is what you want us to think?

Yes, it is, because it's basic logic. If the Mafia killed Martin, who else could have 'killed' Mary besides a vigilante or a serial killer?

YOu seem to know alot about the vigilante's actions.

All based off of logic, my friend. I can assure you that I am in no way related to the vigilante. Although I understand your suspicion, since some of my phrasing isn't the best.

I share the same suspicions as Mr. Right. I am suspicious of Dr. Wilkerson, and doubtful of Robbie Willis. Citizens, I implore you to consider lynching one of them today.

[Ricecracker]

And where does this "third killer" mumbojumbo come from? Oh yeah, you. I've suspected you since yesterday, Mr. Willis, and your frantic theories prove to me that you are scum.

And I know "for a fact" that you are scum as well, Dr. Wilkerson, since you seem awfully keen on following Mr. Willis' theories. This must be a mob scheme.

I see how this works. Whenever someone accuses you, you try to use long winded arguments that go nowhere to point people against me . And since when have I agreed with Mr. Willis? I've barely talked to him, I just said that I think he might be right.

I share the same suspicions as Mr. Right. I am suspicious of Dr. Wilkerson, and doubtful of Robbie Willis. Citizens, I implore you to consider lynching one of them today.

So what now? Just because I come out with my suspicions, I get told that I'm suddenly the one at fault; the one who is mafia? Great plan on finding the actual Mafia...

[Sandy]

I see how this works. Whenever someone accuses you, you try to use long winded arguments that go nowhere to point people against me .

Nice try, except that no-one has yet accused me of being scum except you.

Sure, there were some doubtful questions directed at me yesterday, but nobody said straight-up they think I'm scum - on the contrary. So you can just shove your "long winded arguments that go nowhere" right back where you pulled them, Dr. Mobster.

You ask what now? I'm of course voting for you the first chance I get, unless something more concrete comes up before that.

[Inconspicuous]

So what now? Just because I come out with my suspicions, I get told that I'm suddenly the one at fault; the one who is mafia? Great plan on finding the actual Mafia...

Well, why don't you tell us how three killers could be possible, and how you know this? If you can't prove either, it's likely you're lying.

[Ricecracker]

Well, why don't you tell us how three killers could be possible, and how you know this? If you can't prove either, it's likely you're lying.

Easy. One Mafia Hitman, One town vigilante, and one neutral serial killer. Unfortunately, if I reveal how I know, I'll be killed by the Mafia tomorrow .

[Inconspicuous]

Easy. One Mafia Hitman, One town vigilante, and one neutral serial killer. Unfortunately, if I reveal how I know, I'll be killed by the Mafia tomorrow .

I mean, in terms of night actions for the last two nights. Three killers, and only three kills in two nights? Please explain what you think happened. Those are some awfully accurate blocks!

[Ricecracker]

I mean, in terms of night actions for the last two nights. Three killers, and only three kills in two nights? Please explain what you think happened. Those are some awfully accurate blocks!

Night One:

-Vigilante kills Lois

-Mafia Killer Blocked

-Serial Killer Blocked by Mr. Right's effect

Night Two:

-Vigilante Blocked

-Mafia Killer Kills Martin

-Serial Killer Blocked by Mary's effect, Mary taken away by the Governor

[JimBee]

Well hello there handsome!

Maybe bringing in the army wasn't such a bad idea after all. That Major isn't half bad.

In any case, I warn you, citizens of Stapleton, not to let yourselves to be lead on by ludicrous theories - too many times the scum has won using that tactic. Right now I would keep your eyes on Mr. Willis/WhiteFang and Dr. Wilkerson/Ricecracker, because they both are trying to mess with your heads. They both have been very careful not to make a fuss before today. Thus, I am quite confident that they both are guilty, and if I'm wrong, you may just as well vote me off tomorrow.

If he's the only one accusing you, then why are you so worried? If I recall correctly, you started to question Mr. Wills yesterday, and not that there's anything wrong with that, but he was simply defending himself. Surely you are familiar with this type of argument, as it happens in every single trial?

[Inconspicuous]

Night One:

-Vigilante kills Lois

-Mafia Killer Blocked

-Serial Killer Blocked by Mr. Right's effect

Night Two:

-Vigilante Blocked

-Mafia Killer Kills Martin

-Serial Killer Blocked by Mary's effect, Mary taken away by the Governor

That makes quite a bit of sense. Thank you for answering my question. Do you have any ideas as to what "Mr. Right's Effect" is?

[Dannylonglegs]

Easy. One Mafia Hitman, One town vigilante, and one neutral serial killer. Unfortunately, if I reveal how I know, I'll be killed by the Mafia tomorrow .

So your not-so-subtly hinting that your a vigilante, or roleblocker (as those are the only roles that would make sense coupled with what your saying)

Wow, are you clueless! Your saying that your one of those so you won't be suspected as a Mafia, meaning you are a Mafia

Haha, never go into a battle of wits with a Sicilian (or a gas station attendant) when death is on the line!

These are just my thoughts on the matter!

[Big Cam]

Easy. One Mafia Hitman, One town vigilante, and one neutral serial killer. Unfortunately, if I reveal how I know, I'll be killed by the Mafia tomorrow .

Night One:

-Vigilante kills Lois

-Mafia Killer Blocked

-Serial Killer Blocked by Mr. Right's effect

Night Two:

-Vigilante Blocked

-Mafia Killer Kills Martin

-Serial Killer Blocked by Mary's effect, Mary taken away by the Governor

The above post does not explain your words in the first quote, if we knew how you knew we'd kill you?? Sounds extremely suspicious to me. How do we know that you and Roy Orbison aren't argueing in front of the city crowd to draw suspicion away from you.

[Ricecracker]

Do you have any ideas as to what "Mr. Right's Effect" is?

I think that he is unable to be killed at night, which would explain both why someone tried to break into his office, and why they didn't succeed in killing him.

So your not-so-subtly hinting that your a vigilante, or roleblocker (as those are the only roles that would make sense coupled with what your saying)

Wow, are you clueless! Your saying that your one of those so you won't be suspected as a Mafia, meaning you are a Mafia

Haha, never go into a battle of wits with a Sicilian (or a gas station attendant) when death is on the line!

These are just my thoughts on the matter!

What!? How am I saying I am either? There are many other ways...

The above post does not explain your words in the first quote, if we knew how you knew we'd kill you?? Sounds extremely suspicious to me.

No, I said the Mafia would kill me. I said tomorrow because they won't be able to do anything tonight.

How do we know that you and Roy Orbison aren't argueing in front of the city crowd to draw suspicion away from you.

Now why would we do that? I wasn't arguing with anyone, I'm just explaining my thoughts.

[Inconspicuous]

The above post does not explain your words in the first quote, if we knew how you knew we'd kill you?? Sounds extremely suspicious to me. How do we know that you and Roy Orbison aren't argueing in front of the city crowd to draw suspicion away from you.

They match up: each night has the three killers' actions explained. And they were the answers for different questions. And what do you mean by we? Are you saying that you're Mafia?

And FYI, I'm not arguing with him to draw suspicion away from me. I was highly suspicious of him because I didn't believe three killers were likely. He told me what he thought, and it makes some sense. But he didn't tell us how he knew, so this doesn't mean that he couldn't be Mafia.

[Sandy]

Night One:

-Vigilante kills Lois

-Mafia Killer Blocked

-Serial Killer Blocked by Mr. Right's effect

Night Two:

-Vigilante Blocked

-Mafia Killer Kills Martin

-Serial Killer Blocked by Mary's effect, Mary taken away by the Governor

I'm sorry, but that makes no sense at all. How would you even know all this, unless you have some sort of superpower of knowing what everyone was doing that night.

And I know for a fact you are wrong about this, since my "special effect" does not directly block anyone's actions. The killer must've been blocked by someone else.

I think you are either trying to lead us astray, or you've been fed a bunch of bull by the Mafia. Now you should reconsider whose information you trust.

If he's the only one accusing you, then why are you so worried? If I recall correctly, you started to question Mr. Wills yesterday, and not that there's anything wrong with that, but he was simply defending himself. Surely you are familiar with this type of argument, as it happens in every single trial?

I'm not worried about myself, I'm worried about the town losing to these scumbags! Like I said, if I'm wrong about Dr. Wilkerson and Mr. Willis, you're free to convict me (although in that case, you'll lose yet another innocent).

My point is that Dr. Wilkerson is getting desperate, and is thus trying to frame me, since I have shown to be somewhat of a threat to them. That is why I think he must be scum, because no townie would suddenly attack me so (I hadn't even said anything today, before he started making up his theories!).

[Dannylonglegs]

What!? How am I saying I am either? There are many other ways...

such as?, now you're just being confusing

Now why would we do that? I wasn't arguing with anyone, I'm just explaining my thoughts.

No, you weren't arguing with Mr. Right were you?

[Sandy]

They match up: each night has the three killers' actions explained. And they were the answers for different questions.

Almost anyone can make that sort of a list up, don't be fooled. There's no way a single person could know all that for a fact, and he is wrong in my case, at least.

I think that he is unable to be killed at night, which would explain both why someone tried to break into his office, and why they didn't succeed in killing him.

No, I am not immortal, either. You and your theories...