Jagersmann Posted April 24, 2011 Posted April 24, 2011 Yes actually I knew that, but I didn't want to write a spam comment like "oh sorry...". I really think that Furno and Stormer are gonna be the main heroes for a long time, or that's what people want... Quote
Brickthing Posted April 24, 2011 Posted April 24, 2011 Yes actually I knew that, but I didn't want to write a spam comment like "oh sorry...". I really think that Furno and Stormer are gonna be the main heroes for a long time, or that's what people want... If the Heroes for each wave are based mainly on popular characters, then they'll probably be in each upcoming wave. However, I think another factor is that the colour of each Hero needs to be reasonably distinct from the other 5 Heroes within the wave. This could be a reason for why there isn't an Evo 3.0, because he would be too similar in colour to Rocka 3.0. So (hopefully) if there will be a Dark Red Hero in a future wave, that Hero will replace Furno in that series. Likewise I think a Light Blue Hero might eventually replace Stormer occasionally. Quote
Jagersmann Posted April 24, 2011 Posted April 24, 2011 True, is all about colors, Lego always use regular colors, they have changed brown for yellow or orange, I think that the reason are the characters or they just wanna experiment with new posibilities, like Surge 2.0, Evo or Rocka. Let's think about a new character, silver, gold, orange, black? There are not going to be a lot of changes or new characters, because the orginal or traditional colors belongs to the 0.1 heroes. So there are going to be a few new heroes replacing old ones, or a extreme change in the history with another team, like Recon Team Quote
Jetrax99 Posted April 24, 2011 Posted April 24, 2011 Yes actually I knew that, but I didn't want to write a spam comment like "oh sorry...". I really think that Furno and Stormer are gonna be the main heroes for a long time, or that's what people want... Just checking... I certainly hope the #.0 thing doesn't become a normal for sets.....it'll get old after a while, and I'd like to see more XL heroes Quote
Omicron Squad Leader Posted April 24, 2011 Posted April 24, 2011 (edited) Found a list of supposed 2012 Hero Factory names from winter AND summer... Yeah, that already makes them sound fake. If in the slight chance they are real, the April Fools names Pro_Ice posted on his blog were close: 2201 Force 4.0 2202 Stormer 4.0 2203 Rocka 4.0 2204 Surge 4.0 2205 Evo 4.0 2206 Stringer 4.0 2213 Pegleg 2214 Skull 2215 Hook 2220 Force XL 2223 Black 'Bot 2207 Ultiforce 2208 Ultifurno 2209 Ultinex 2210 Ultibulk 2211 Ultievo 2212 Ultibreez 2216 Isical 2217 Kristal 2218 Snowstorm 2219 Yetii 2224 Frostbite 2225 Blizzard Bringer 2226 Ultifurno XL I'm assuming if these are fake, you can tell us Front, right? Edited April 24, 2011 by Omicron Squad Leader Quote
Bfahome Posted April 24, 2011 Posted April 24, 2011 Considering all the 222x numbers are from 1990s DUPLO sets, I'm more than a little skeptical. Quote
Jouster Posted April 24, 2011 Posted April 24, 2011 Found a list of supposed 2012 Hero Factory names from winter AND summer... Yeah, that already makes them sound fake. If in the slight chance they are real, the April Fools names Pro_Ice posted on his blog were close: 2201 Force 4.0 2202 Stormer 4.0 2203 Rocka 4.0 2204 Surge 4.0 2205 Evo 4.0 2206 Stringer 4.0 2213 Pegleg 2214 Skull 2215 Hook 2220 Force XL 2223 Black 'Bot 2207 Ultiforce 2208 Ultifurno 2209 Ultinex 2210 Ultibulk 2211 Ultievo 2212 Ultibreez 2216 Isical 2217 Kristal 2218 Snowstorm 2219 Yetii 2224 Frostbite 2225 Blizzard Bringer 2226 Ultifurno XL I'm assuming if these are fake, you can tell us Front, right? Omicron....Seriously?...XD Quote
Omicron Squad Leader Posted April 24, 2011 Posted April 24, 2011 Omicron....Seriously?...XD Blame the writers. :3 I don't believe either. Quote
Jouster Posted April 24, 2011 Posted April 24, 2011 Blame the writers. :3 I don't believe either. Where the hell did you find these LOL-worthy names? Quote
Brickthing Posted April 24, 2011 Posted April 24, 2011 I'm also fairly sure that they're fake, as I've never heard of LEGO reassigning old set numbers to new sets (~1995 isn't even very old). It's very early to get a list of names, and a lot of the names seem so good that they must be fan-speculation. Rocka, Evo, Surge and no Furno in the 4.0 wave? I love the theme choices though - Pirates and Ice. I wouldn't be disappointed if those were the themes of next year, although Pirates would need to be the Summer wave to fit in some sort of pirate ship/vehicle. Quote
Aanchir Posted April 24, 2011 Posted April 24, 2011 I'm also fairly sure that they're fake, as I've never heard of LEGO reassigning old set numbers to new sets (~1995 isn't even very old). It's very early to get a list of names, and a lot of the names seem so good that they must be fan-speculation. Rocka, Evo, Surge and no Furno in the 4.0 wave? I love the theme choices though - Pirates and Ice. I wouldn't be disappointed if those were the themes of next year, although Pirates would need to be the Summer wave to fit in some sort of pirate ship/vehicle. LEGO has re-assigned old set numbers to newer sets, but not recently and not often. And furthermore, the list has so many things against it being real in the first place, like the aforementioned fact that it lists both winter and summer 2012 sets. I don't even know if LEGO would have decided on the set names and numbers for summer 2012 this early on. Some of the names sound really plausible, but others sound especially fake. For instance, the fact that every ice villain name listed is spelled unusually doesn't at all match up with any traditions established by Hero Factory. So far, the only names to be slightly-corrupted English words have been XPlode, Fangz, and (arguably) Waspix and Scorpio. The names listed for the ice villains sound gross (although I'm sure a lot of people feel the same about many HF or BIONICLE names) and have no logical reason they'd need to be spelled like they are (since most are non-copyrightable). Quote
CabooseBM Posted April 25, 2011 Posted April 25, 2011 I like "Blizzard Bringer". It's a cool name. I want to moc him, now. Quote
The Crazy One Posted April 25, 2011 Posted April 25, 2011 Ultievo is a very cumbersome name. Ulti anything is a combersome name. Quote
Omicron Squad Leader Posted April 25, 2011 Posted April 25, 2011 LEGO has re-assigned old set numbers to newer sets, but not recently and not often. And furthermore, the list has so many things against it being real in the first place, like the aforementioned fact that it lists both winter and summer 2012 sets. I don't even know if LEGO would have decided on the set names and numbers for summer 2012 this early on. Some of the names sound really plausible, but others sound especially fake. For instance, the fact that every ice villain name listed is spelled unusually doesn't at all match up with any traditions established by Hero Factory. So far, the only names to be slightly-corrupted English words have been XPlode, Fangz, and (arguably) Waspix and Scorpio. The names listed for the ice villains sound gross (although I'm sure a lot of people feel the same about many HF or BIONICLE names) and have no logical reason they'd need to be spelled like they are (since most are non-copyrightable). Maybe LEGO is changing their traditions with names? Starting with Savage Planet. As three of the changed names are featured in that wave. I agree though they sound rather stupid, especially "Yetii". :P But "Blizzard Bringer" does sound cool to me. Also, to whoever said "Ultievo" is a cumbersome name, I agree. The vowel-vowel situation makes it sound strange, and "Ultifurno" is just too elongated. Quote
Aanchir Posted April 25, 2011 Posted April 25, 2011 Maybe LEGO is changing their traditions with names? Starting with Savage Planet. As three of the changed names are featured in that wave. I agree though they sound rather stupid, especially "Yetii". :P But "Blizzard Bringer" does sound cool to me. Also, to whoever said "Ultievo" is a cumbersome name, I agree. The vowel-vowel situation makes it sound strange, and "Ultifurno" is just too elongated. LEGO could indeed change their traditions with names at any time. What I find implausible, though, is that they would have a reason to change the names to corrupted English words rather than straightforward words, but would put off that change for the whole early 2012 wave, not implementing it until the wave after that. If they have a reason to change up their traditions, then they'll make that change promptly, not keep going with what they had been doing previously when there's over half a year before the next wave's release. This, of course, only applies in the preposterous circumstance that the sets for next year's summer wave would have been assigned names and numbers by this point, which based on what I've heard about LEGO's design and release cycles simply wouldn't happen. Quote
Zarkan Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 Found a list of supposed 2012 Hero Factory names from winter AND summer... Yeah, that already makes them sound fake. If in the slight chance they are real, the April Fools names Pro_Ice posted on his blog were close: 2201 Force 4.0 2202 Stormer 4.0 2203 Rocka 4.0 2204 Surge 4.0 2205 Evo 4.0 2206 Stringer 4.0 2213 Pegleg 2214 Skull 2215 Hook 2220 Force XL 2223 Black 'Bot 2207 Ultiforce 2208 Ultifurno 2209 Ultinex 2210 Ultibulk 2211 Ultievo 2212 Ultibreez 2216 Isical 2217 Kristal 2218 Snowstorm 2219 Yetii 2224 Frostbite 2225 Blizzard Bringer 2226 Ultifurno XL I'm assuming if these are fake, you can tell us Front, right? These better be fake, because they might perhaps be the laziest names we've ever gotten. Yetii? Kristal? Black 'Bot? Ulti(insert hero name)? Come on, they aren't even trying. Quote
Aanchir Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 These better be fake, because they might perhaps be the laziest names we've ever gotten. Yetii? Kristal? Black 'Bot? Ulti(insert hero name)? Come on, they aren't even trying. Now, now. I agree the list is fake, and the names you mentioned are bad, bad, bad. But I don't like it when people start throwing around the word "lazy" in places where it doesn't apply. "Lazy" would mean not going through as much work as they should. In the case of Yetii and Kristal, those names spelled normally (Yeti and Crystal) could be perfectly fine for villains. So if LEGO released sets called Yetii and Kristal, that's an example of going to too much effort to make the names unique (and thus making them look absolutely dreadful). An idea being creative or unique doesn't make it a good idea. When a new collectible minifigures series comes out, there's always someone who suggests that "LEGO is running out of ideas" or that "the latest series isn't creative". This is completely laughable. Ideas are an inexhaustible resource-- they can never and will never run out. Good ideas are harder to come by but equally plentiful. But ideas that everyone likes? Those aren't nearly as common. And a lot of people make the mistake of thinking that an idea they don't like can't have had any work or creative thought put into it. This is not the case-- the most creative ideas, incidentally, are often the wackiest and most controversial, like Ninjago. Yet these are also the ideas routinely blamed for "lacking creativity". Apologies for the rant, but the misuse of these accusations tends to bother me a great deal. And it happens in the LEGO community (and other fan communities) far too often. Quote
Bfahome Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 And a lot of people make the mistake of thinking that an idea they don't like can't have had any work or creative thought put into it. This is not the case-- the most creative ideas, incidentally, are often the wackiest and most controversial, like Ninjago. Yet these are also the ideas routinely blamed for "lacking creativity". Yeah, I like how people take "lazy" and apply it to whatever they don't like. The Ben 10 sets, for example, were almost exclusively new molds but I saw it get the "lazy" label from someone because they didn't like them. And probably because they were sore about BIONICLE ending. Quote
The Crazy One Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 Lazy is the wrong word. Unimaginative is the right word. Quote
Aanchir Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 Lazy is the wrong word. Unimaginative is the right word. I'll concede that. If LEGO were going to alter the spelling of the real-word names for Hero Factory villains, I'd expect something that flows better than Yetii or Isical. The "Ulti" prefix is also a bit awkward in some places, although I'm sure many people would love a naming scheme similar to that where we could ditch the considerably-less-imaginative pattern many people are predicting, where the numbering system of upgrades continues for years to come. Quote
The Crazy One Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 Sadly, in the long run, LEGO probabley don't care. Lets face it, the designs are all that matter, and kids probabley dont even read the names, and they're used to it with the utter trash they watch. ( Sorry if I am being harsh on the younger generations ). Quote
Brickthing Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 I'll concede that. If LEGO were going to alter the spelling of the real-word names for Hero Factory villains, I'd expect something that flows better than Yetii or Isical. The "Ulti" prefix is also a bit awkward in some places, although I'm sure many people would love a naming scheme similar to that where we could ditch the considerably-less-imaginative pattern many people are predicting, where the numbering system of upgrades continues for years to come. My prediction is that the numbering system won't stay around for too much longer (6.0 at the most), simply because at a rate of 2 increments per year, very soon will kids of the target age not know about 1.0/2.0 sets, so they'll be little point in referencing them via the continuous number series. Rocka XL is already a deviation from the number system, and the canister sets will probably do it soon as well. DX is a possible replacement - it worked for NinjaGo (and Galidor ). Quote
vexorian Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 We are probably rushing things out, I am not even sure it will get another wave in the first place. Quote
The Crazy One Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 We are probably rushing things out, I am not even sure it will get another wave in the first place. Theres no doubt it will. A new theme would be nearing announcement if that were the case and the rumours would already be flowing. Quote
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