DJ Bricks Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Doing a transforming Hulk play feature does sound right up Lego's alley, though. Show us pics already, Lego! I have a budget to plan for. It does sound like something they'll do. It'll be hard( cuz Hulk is so HUGE) but I believe Lego can do it! And there will be a Bruce Banner fig if they make a play feature like that! It'll be harder with a 389 piece count but itll be the same size as the Funhouse( 380)!!!!! I guess since the original post you quoted has been edited, it's too late for a "you wouldn't like me when I'm constipated!" joke. Ah well. I'm not sure how well a Hulk transforming feature would work in a set, but that's just because the Batman transforming feature in the Batcave set isn't exactly concise, and the Hulk figure is bigger to begin with. Depending on the size of the set (forgive me if I missed this), it could possibly be done, but I have some degree of doubt. 389 price count if that helps!!!! Same size as the Funhouse( 380) Quote
SoupOrFishOil Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) 389 price count if that helps!!!! Same size as the Funhouse( 380) Except this is a vehicle, which is what makes it difficult And actually, I think that the helicarrier might be in the size range of Batmobile/Two-Face, but that's only going by set numbers, so we can't be sure especially after DC's. But if it is, that sounds like a lot of bigger pieces. Edited January 16, 2012 by Superficial Username Quote
DJ Bricks Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Except this is a vehicle, which is what makes it difficult And actually, I think that the helicarrier might be in the size range of Batmobile/Two-Face, but that's only going by set numbers, so we can't be sure especially after DC's. But if it is, that sounds like a lot of bigger pieces. We don't know if is the full helicarrier or a room in it! If it is the full thing that is the smallest model of it I'd ever see!!! Quote
SoupOrFishOil Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 We don't know if is the full helicarrier or a room in it! If it is the full thing that is the smallest model of it I'd ever see!!! They downsize vehicles all the time in Star Wars. The only "vehicle" set I remember which was a few rooms in a vehicle and not the vehcile itself was the Mon Calarmi Star Cruiser (or whatever). I don't think that this will be like that, that was more of a collector's item whereas this line is aimed more at kids who would probably prefer to play with vehicles. Plus, LEGO loves to make vehilce vs. vehicle conflict sets, just look at DC. Only the Funhouse really wasn't, and to an extent, the Power Armor wasn't either. But even then, the Power Armor is a vehicle. Quote
DJ Bricks Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) They downsize vehicles all the time in Star Wars. The only "vehicle" set I remember which was a few rooms in a vehicle and not the vehcile itself was the Mon Calarmi Star Cruiser (or whatever). I don't think that this will be like that, that was more of a collector's item whereas this line is aimed more at kids who would probably prefer to play with vehicles. Plus, LEGO loves to make vehilce vs. vehicle conflict sets, just look at DC. Only the Funhouse really wasn't, and to an extent, the Power Armor wasn't either. But even then, the Power Armor is a vehicle. Yep I see your point! Let me change my fig list, this is still going off my two theories! Cap set Cap, nick or balck widow( not all of these have to be " good vs bad") Hulk set Hulk, Bruce Banner, Black widow, Thor( preliminary called hulk and Thor set) Nick Quinjet set All the four avengers, Loki or skrull Spiderman's Doc Ock Ambush Spidy, Doc, mj or Gwen, cop I think that they will give us three small(er) sets( Cap, Loki, hulk) to get the avengers and then put them all in one big set (Quinjet) Edited January 16, 2012 by Neville longbottem Quote
GuntherThePenguin Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 I wish we could just get some pics of these darned sets already! But, if those descriptions are true, I will have to pick up quite a few Marvel sets to get all the figs I want.... Quote
DJ Bricks Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 I wish we could just get some pics of these darned sets already! But, if those descriptions are true, I will have to pick up quite a few Marvel sets to get all the figs I want.... Which descriptions are you referring to? If it my minifigure list, that is not real just my theories of who will be in which set! Quote
SoupOrFishOil Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Cap set Cap, nick or balck widow( not all of these have to be " good vs bad") No, of course they don't all have to be good vs. bad, but so far that's what the playability of this line is, so I'd be surprised if there wasn't a bad guy included, not even a generic one. Quote
surrideo Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 No, of course they don't all have to be good vs. bad, but so far that's what the playability of this line is, so I'd be surprised if there wasn't a bad guy included, not even a generic one. Im trying to think of many current lego sets where there isn't a good/bad demographic to the sets. Anyone? Venorami shrine? Good guy/bad place. All the DC universe have it and I think the Marvel ones will too. The change in tack of this years Star Wars battlepacks also illustrates this. Quote
deskp Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Perhaps they will include the "skrulls" as enimies, or seeing as they presumably are shapeshifters any of the heroes could be skrulls in disguise. (based on roumors, presumably they are called soemthing else than skrulls) Quote
DJ Bricks Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 No, of course they don't all have to be good vs. bad, but so far that's what the playability of this line is, so I'd be surprised if there wasn't a bad guy included, not even a generic one. DC was only because most of the sets were Batman , so it had to be " good vs evil"! But my theory is the three small smaller sets let you get characters from the avengers Example Cap(Cap, unknown 2 fig) Loki( Loki,iron man,hawkeye) Hulk(hulk, Bruce, Thor, ?) Black widow and nick fury still need to fit in somewhere. Nick might be in the helicarrier because that's where the avengers base is( I think) And then in the Quinjet( named the avengers in the preliminaries) might have all the avengers in it giving you two chances to get the figs Quote
SoupOrFishOil Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Im trying to think of many current lego sets where there isn't a good/bad demographic to the sets. Anyone? Venorami shrine? Good guy/bad place. All the DC universe have it and I think the Marvel ones will too. The change in tack of this years Star Wars battlepacks also illustrates this. The main playability of Super Heroes are normally the old good vs. evil idea. Though that's the same for other licenses/franchises like Star Wars, it's even more true for Super Heroes because for the most part they don't have a whole lot of vehicles (Batman being an exception, but we've seen plenty of him already this year). Star Wars does sell ships separatley, but they normally have a match up or two so that you need to purchase another $50 set to have a battle. So far, this hasn't really happend for Super Heroes, and it didn't happen in the Batman and Spider-man themes, there has always been at least one hero pitted against at least one villain. I guess that Captain America doesn't need a villain included in his set, but then I hardly see the point. Where's the playability with him and Fury (or whoever)? I suppose that this could be the first set to go in the Star Wars route of needing another set for any real playability (other than shooting missiles and launching escape pods), but chances are that this is going to be the small set of the wave, like Batman/Catwoman set. So, I'm thinking that there will be Captain America on his motorcycle pitted against Loki or a >see below< and possibly some scenery, pretty much like a battle pack with less minifigures. Plus, this is gearing up to be the small set of the wave, I can't think of a time LEGO made small sets for Star Wars which are meant to be pitted against each other, except for the battle packs, but as you pointed out LEGO has changed their tactics on that. And yeah, if DC has it, I'm almost certain Marvel will to. I've said this before but it really is amazing that they could get the two together (though I'm sure it's because they have good relations with WB and Disney), and I really wouldn't think that they'd easily want one to one-up the other. Looking at the press releases, they each even had thirteen named characters and they both have a store exclusive (Funhouse and Spider-man seems to be one). The only thing I can see that could mess this up is the Batman video game, but there could easily be a Marvel one next year. The Star Wars battle packs are a great example of the good vs. evil thing too. It increases playability. As much as I'd personally like characters like Nick Fury and Black Widow in a small set, unless Captain America is also a villain's code name, there wouldn't be any playability, and might look boring to kids on a box. The venomari shrine does have only one good guy figure, but there are also a couple green snake minions to launch at him. I suppose the same could be done for this, but if a kid would be more interested in Batman chasing Catwoman, or if they hav a few extra dollars, Wolverine Chopper, Superman vs. Power Armore Lex, or Loki's Cosmic Cube. Sorry if this was too long, there were a lot of thoughts I had that went along with your post. Perhaps they will include the "skrulls" as enimies, or seeing as they presumably are shapeshifters any of the heroes could be skrulls in disguise. (based on roumors, presumably they are called soemthing else than skrulls) If they have a default form, I think they could be generic enough. Quote
DJ Bricks Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Superficial, what do you mean " if DC has it, Marvel will have it too" Do you mean the store exclusive, the video game, or the Hulk transformation thing, or the good vs evil?' Marvel may want to do their sets differently than DC's to make them stand out more? Edited January 16, 2012 by Neville longbottem Quote
SoupOrFishOil Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Superficial, what do you mean " if DC has one, Marvel will have it too" Do you mean the store exclusive, the video game, or the Hulk transformation thing? I mean keeping things even. I mean that if DC has 3 sets, Marvel will have 3 sets. If DC has 10 named figures, Marvel will have 10 named figures. I don't necesarrily mean in design, so no, I don't mean a Hulk transformation thing (even though that would be nice, I don't see it happening). DC was only because most of the sets were Batman , so it had to be " good vs evil"! But my theory is the three small smaller sets let you get characters from the avengersExample Cap(Cap, unknown 2 fig) Loki( Loki,iron man,hawkeye) Hulk(hulk, Bruce, Thor, ?) Black widow and nick fury still need to fit in somewhere. Nick might be in the helicarrier because that's where the avengers base is( I think) And then in the Quinjet( named the avengers in the preliminaries) might have all the avengers in it giving you two chances to get the figs LEGO is a toy first, but it's also a collectors' item, espceially with licensed themes. Giving you a second chance at all of the fiures in a wave in the same wave doesn't happen too often, if at all (recently). Sure, big-name characters like Captain America and Iron Man might appear in two different sets, but that's usually to sell a set. And I don't see exactly how Batman appearing in so many sets helps this theory, if anything it contradicts it because sure, there were a lot of Batman figures and other options for getting Robin and Joker, but Superman and Wonder Woman were still exclusive. As was Two-Face, who is also pretty well known. Quote
DJ Bricks Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) I mean keeping things even. I mean that if DC has 3 sets, Marvel will have 3 sets. If DC has 10 named figures, Marvel will have 10 named figures. I don't necesarrily mean in design, so no, I don't mean a Hulk transformation thing (even though that would be nice, I don't see it happening). LEGO is a toy first, but it's also a collectors' item, espceially with licensed themes. Giving you a second chance at all of the fiures in a wave in the same wave doesn't happen too often, if at all (recently). Sure, big-name characters like Captain America and Iron Man might appear in two different sets, but that's usually to sell a set. And I don't see exactly how Batman appearing in so many sets helps this theory, if anything it contradicts it because sure, there were a lot of Batman figures and other options for getting Robin and Joker, but Superman and Wonder Woman were still exclusive. As was Two-Face, who is also pretty well known. So DC has 17 figs, Marvel will need 4 more figs to make it even, right? Lego said DC was more supervillain oriented So Marvel is more super hero oriented! One of the four might be Banner, Possible Skrulls, cops, or a fig for the Spidy set! Most of the Batman villains were exclusive to their sets in the origanal theme, so it makes sense for them to do it here! To keep even set wise Marvel would have to do it 2 fig(Cap set) 3( we know these, Wolverine and Loki)and three 5 figs(Hulk,Quinjet,and Spidy) Edited January 16, 2012 by Neville longbottem Quote
SoupOrFishOil Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) So DC has 17 figs, Marvel will need 4 more figs to make it even, right? Lego said DC was more supervillain oriented So Marvel is more super hero oriented! One of the four might be Banner, Possible Skrulls, cops, or a fig for the Spidy set I meant number of named characters, I'm not going by loyalty (good or evil) and I'm not counting generic figs, only named ones. Edited January 16, 2012 by Superficial Username Quote
DJ Bricks Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) I meant number of named characters, I'm not going by loyalty (good or evil) and I'm not counting generic figs, only named ones. They may be generic, but they were still given "names". But I see your point. If you hear Batcave you think " Bruce Wayne should At least be in that, right?" If you hear Hulk you think of big green monster, right? But you also think of Bruce Banner,right? In order to make this appeal to kids and collectors alike they are going to have to include a Banner fig,(you may not think so, but that's what I think!) And to keep it even, DC had a character transformer,so Marvel would have to have one. And it would work best for Hulk Or Iron Man, We don't have a Tony in Loki's set so I think that I just might be for the Hulk! Edited January 16, 2012 by Neville longbottem Quote
Clone OPatra Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Why is there this notion that the two brands have to be made completely even? We already know that they want be by the mere sources of material; while DC had only two different comics portrayed, Marvel has two comics and a film. That's 'uneven' right there. I think it's likely to get a Bruce Banner figure, but it also could depend on how important of a character Bruce himself is while he's not being the Hulk. A transforming feature for a character as big as Hulk, though, seems to me quite unlikely. Quote
Omicron Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Why is there this notion that the two brands have to be made completely even? We already know that they want be by the mere sources of material; while DC had only two different comics portrayed, Marvel has two comics and a film. That's 'uneven' right there. DC has 3 comics, and 2 movies. :P I consider Wonder Woman separate. And the Green Lantern and Dark Knight figs represent the movies as well. -Omi Quote
Clone OPatra Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 DC has 3 comics, and 2 movies. :P I consider Wonder Woman separate. And the Green Lantern and Dark Knight figs represent the movies as well. Oh, I think you know what I meant. I meant in the actual wave of sets, not counting promotional figures. And yes, Wonder Woman is her own comics, but it's not like there is an entire set from her comics. Marvel, on the other hand, has separate sets from two comics and sets from a film. Quote
DJ Bricks Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Bruce is going to just as important as the Hulk! He's not be in hulk mode the entire thing! They'll need to do some character devlopment/building with Bruce( as well as the others, especially Cap) Quote
SoupOrFishOil Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 They may be generic, but they were still given "names". But I see your point. If you hear Batcave you think " Bruce Wayne should At least be in that, right?" If you hear Hulk you think of big green monster, right? But you also think of Bruce Banner,right? In order to make this appeal to kids and collectors alike they are going to have to include a Banner fig,(you may not think so, but that's what I think!) And to keep it even, DC had a character transformer,so Marvel would have to have one. And it would work best for Hulk Or Iron Man, We don't have a Tony in Loki's set so I think that I just might be for the Hulk! When you think of Batcave, you may also think of Alfred who isn't included. And I'm not talking about play features, so I don't think that the Helicarrier will have one. I'm still sure that at least one of the Marvel sets will have a really nice play feature though (other than just missiles and exploding windows). Also don't have Clark Kent in the Superman set, Harleen Quinzel in the Funhouse, or Tim Drake in the Batcave (as just a couple examples). Why is there this notion that the two brands have to be made completely even? We already know that they want be by the mere sources of material; while DC had only two different comics portrayed, Marvel has two comics and a film. That's 'uneven' right there. I think it's likely to get a Bruce Banner figure, but it also could depend on how important of a character Bruce himself is while he's not being the Hulk. A transforming feature for a character as big as Hulk, though, seems to me quite unlikely. True, I don't mean completley even though. I mean more like number of figs worth mentioning (who would of really gotten that excited if they read something like "The LEGO DC Universe collection includes such memorable characters such as Superman, Henchman, Security Guard, and The Joker."?" But both press releases did mention thirteen named figures and as of now, they have the same number of sets. Sure, nothing will be perfect, I'm sure piece count will be off and in some countries it seems as though the X-men and Cosmic Cube are the same price. And then of course, there are play features which are not going to be identical (just felt like I had to put that in here). I guess it does rely on how important Banner is, but I still don't think we are getting him, not this wave at least. Quote
DJ Bricks Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 When you think of Batcave, you may also think of Alfred who isn't included. And I'm not talking about play features, so I don't think that the Helicarrier will have one. I'm still sure that at least one of the Marvel sets will have a really nice play feature though (other than just missiles and exploding windows). Also don't have Clark Kent in the Superman set, Harleen Quinzel in the Funhouse, or Tim Drake in the Batcave (as just a couple examples). True, I don't mean completley even though. I mean more like number of figs worth mentioning (who would of really gotten that excited if they read something like "The LEGO DC Universe collection includes such memorable characters such as Superman, Henchman, Security Guard, and The Joker."?" But both press releases did mention thirteen named figures and as of now, they have the same number of sets. Sure, nothing will be perfect, I'm sure piece count will be off and in some countries it seems as though the X-men and Cosmic Cube are the same price. And then of course, there are play features which are not going to be identical (just felt like I had to put that in here). I guess it does rely on how important Banner is, but I still don't think we are getting him, not this wave at least. Like I said, Banner is probably going to be as important as Tony, Steve, and Thor. He's going to go through some character development I'm sure. Even if there's no play feature we'll probably still going to get Banner! And yes I agree alfred should have come in the Batcave, but there was a five fig limit. Same withe the hulk set which will also be a five fig set!!! Quote
SoupOrFishOil Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Same withe the hulk set which will also be a five fig set!!! How can you tell? Edited January 16, 2012 by Superficial Username Quote
DJ Bricks Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) How can you tell? It's the same number of pieces as the Funhouse (389 and 380 respectively) and it sound like a five fig set! Plus I noticed a pattern, it might not be it. DC: 1 two fig(catwoman) 2 three figs( superman, batwing) three 5 figs( the rest) Marvel: 1 2 fig(Cap) 2 3 figs( Wolverine and Loki) 3 5 figs( hulk Quinjet, and Spidy) Thats just my theory Edited January 16, 2012 by Neville longbottem Quote
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