Jedi Temple Mafia - Day Five

[Tamamono]

I don't have much time right now, but I'm suspicious of Volvif Mon. He avoided suspicion yesterday, and the day before because we were concentrating on Coryn's ( ) suspicions.

I too am suspicious of Voolvif, and his more recent post is making those suspicions even stronger. Voolvif, here's a word of advice: if you really are town (which I'm starting to seriously doubt), then you need to start participating. Give us a reason not to lynch you, because believe me, we will.

That about sums it up. Someone's lying. Vebb may have lied to lynch Obi, who he believes to have a role in which case, he might be scum or the SK, or Obi may be lying about not claiming a role in which case he might be scum or the SK. One of these force users is not like the others, one of these force users does not belong...

I'm not sure I completely understand what's going on here, to be honest. Is it that R2 told Vebb that Kenobi claimed a role to him, and then Kenobi denied it and claimed vanilla? If not, then I need to seriously sit down with this stuff and get it through my head. It looks, important, though!

Also, I agree with what Vebb said about the SK. I refuse to believe the scum could attack and convert on the same night, so the SK was likely converted to the Scum because the shrink died and he can't be cured.

Yesterday I thought that the change in MO might have just been cosmetic, but now it looks like a trend, and we mustn't ignore trends. I'm just surprised that the scum get two night kills and we get none.

I agree, that's probably why the SK was converted over to the Sith. Like Vebb, I'm starting to have serious doubts about the balance of this situation...

I'm a bit suspicous of the Obi-Wan and Vebb argument thing, too. I agree with Master Mundi. Someone in that argument is lying.

This post has some red flags going up for me. It seems to me that Voolvif doesn't completely understand what this thing is all about, but he's more than happy to watch two Jedi going at it. He's been under the spotlight quite a bit during these last few days, and another quarrel like this is a nice opportunity for him to slip under the radar unnoticed today.

However, this is, of course, all irrelevant if one of the two fighting is actually a Sith, which is entirely possible.

I believe the general consensus is that the trooper is scum and the droid is the serial killer.

Yes, this is the most likely explanation.

Lets think through this in a logical way. Why would the scum kill R2-D2? Because he was one of the only people who has been recently suspecting Coryn as a scum. He was planning on presenting his theory on Coryn to the public, but wanted to talk to a couple other players and see what the Euna's outcome was first. It seems that he was never given this opportunity, and unfortunately he didn't share most of his information with me, so there are probably discussions that he had with people, in support of this point, that I am not aware of.

Yeah, he was one of the only 7 or 8. But now that he's dead, looks like I'm off Scott free! When 3PO came up 'unknown', a lot of people were suspicious of me, not just R2.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Vebb who came up with the idea of lynching Euna to prove 3PO's allegiance, and, through the transitive property, mine? (which was a pretty flawed plan, by the way)

There are a few other points I'd like to mention. Coryn's overly enthusiastic head-wall-slamming, whenever some Jedi are killed during the night, is getting suspicious to me. Go back and look, its that way here in Day Five, and also in Day Four. It seems to me that he's trying to make himself look pro-town by wailing for the death of the poor fellows, but in reality no one is making as big a fuss about it as he is.

Do you actually hear yourself? Yeah, I'm scum because I get angry when all the hard work I put into catching scum seems to be for nothing as Jedi keep on dying. Apparently having genuine emotions is now a scumtell. Go figure.

Whats done is done, making posts filled with head-slamming emoticons might seem like town-ish behavior at first, but already twice is starting to overdo it. I also find him suspicious of his all-of-a-sudden remembering yesterday that he "accidentally" told C3PO about the true identity of Sherlock. I know this is "old news", but its an important point. That wasn't a kind of thing that he would just happen to remember. It probably didn't actually happen (and the other two witnesses are dead, mind you), and he made it up to clear himself up. He has been seeming to make up plenty of good excuses, but being a good talker doesn't mean he's a good-guy!

When Quinlan died, I went back and re-read all the private conversations I'd had with him/about him to see what the source of the leak was, because - let's face it - Quinlan wasn't doing anything useful. There was no reason for him to be killed by the scum killer. It was obvious that since he was killed, one of the Sith had been informed of his action, and had killed him to get rid of it. While reviewing the conversation I had had with Corobb and 3PO, I found that I had accidentally called Sherlock "Vol" (Quinlan's nickname) at one point, and that's what tipped 3PO off. I still firmly believe that 3PO was scum, and he's the reason Quinlan is dead.

Now something else that really doesn't make sense is this: the fact that he was the in the previous group of leading members, and he's the only one left. It would make sense if the mafia was killing the important townies - Corobb is gone, C3PO is now also gone... and what with Coryn!? He's definitely one of the most influential members of this game, and if he isn't with the scum then he really should be dead by now!

Since the other two of the Three C's have died, I've kept myself well protected. They can't touch me.

So this is how I find R2-D2's murder by the mafia extremely disturbing and the main reason that Coryn is the scum we've been looking for.

FoS: Coryn Kelens (Tamamono)

If you're really hellbent on taking a stand against one of the few people actively trying to help, then go right ahead.

[TheBoyWonder]

Volviff Monn has been around too long. A persistent menace, with the suspicion always diverted from him. I am looking forward to his reply.

[Palathadric]

Honestly, I don't know if I'm interested in his reply. He's been FoSed for the last 5 days, and I don't know if he'll come up with anything useful to clear him as he certainly hasn't up until now. I'm still not sure though who I think makes a more worhty lunch Coryn or Voolvif...Coryn of Voolvif. Oh, well, since I haven't yet...today. FoS: Voolvif Monn (JackJonespaw)

[Scubacarrot]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Vebb who came up with the idea of lynching Euna to prove 3PO's allegiance, and, through the transitive property, mine? (which was a pretty flawed plan, by the way)

Since the other two of the Three C's have died, I've kept myself well protected. They can't touch me.

I quoted these bits, because they stood out to me. Point 1: Not exactly: I came up with the plan of lynching Euna to prove 3PO's allegiance, face it: if Euna had been scum, 3PO was scum, or so I felt at the time. The second part was never part of any of the idea, it does not make a whole lot of sense, it would give tiny bit of evidence you are scum. Yes, the fact that Euna was innocent (which means we are still not sure if C-3PO was innocent or not, it proves by no way that C-3PO was.) naturally raises my suspicion towards you, Coryn. But the main thing that greatly increased my suspicion towards you today is the fact that we are almost certain the SK works with the scum. (reasoning earlier up ahead )

Now, the second point was something that greatly stood out to me: You say you are "well protected" hm? I don't think anyone would work with you like that after yesterday's events, I really don't. Unless... <fill in the blanks>

[Skull-Mark_Ladybug]

Honestly, I don't know if I'm interested in his reply. He's been FoSed for the last 5 days, and I don't know if he'll come up with anything useful to clear him as he certainly hasn't up until now. I'm still not sure though who I think makes a more worhty lunch Coryn or Voolvif...Coryn of Voolvif. Oh, well, since I haven't yet...today. FoS: Voolvif Monn (JackJonespaw)

I agree with you, and for that matter I think that Ili Seosty is in a similar situation. Neither of them comes off as being very town, and both of them have been under suspicion for a while, but neither of them has a very strong case against them.

[Scubacarrot]

I agree with you, and for that matter I think that Ili Seosty is in a similar situation. Neither of them comes off as being very town, and both of them have been under suspicion for a while, but neither of them has a very strong case against them.

The problem with the cases against them is that they are just as likely to be town-sheep as scum. For the last days, we have always had someone with a stronger() case against them, so we could not afford to lynch them to try and find out, and the scum and the SK (scum-sk) are smart enough to stay clear of them. Another problem is that we probably now starting to get to a point where we can't afford to lose many townies, so lynching them is even more of a risk. Monn has been contributing lately, usefulness to that contributions aside. Ili... not so much, if she is town, I sincerely hope this will be remembered by future game-masters, I think there is actually a high chance of her being scum, as I would think a townie as inactive as that would probably have been modkilled.

Oh, I am metagaming, oh I am talking out of character. Yes, deal with it.

[Skull-Mark_Ladybug]

The problem with the cases against them is that they are just as likely to be town-sheep as scum. For the last days, we have always had someone with a stronger() case against them, so we could not afford to lynch them to try and find out, and the scum and the SK (scum-sk) are smart enough to stay clear of them. Another problem is that we probably now starting to get to a point where we can't afford to lose many townies, so lynching them is even more of a risk. Monn has been contributing lately, usefulness to that contributions aside. Ili... not so much, if she is town, I sincerely hope this will be remembered by future game-masters, I think there is actually a high chance of her being scum, as I would think a townie as inactive as that would probably have been modkilled.

Hasn’t Yoda has explicitly stated that a player won’t be mod-killed/replaced, as long as they post and vote each day?

Anyways, I would imagine that if Ili Seosty was a Sith; her fellow Sith would have been urging her to start posting more. Monn's contributions haven't been very helpful. Maybe his scum buddies have been urging him to start posting more? Just so that he can avoid scrutiny for being inactive.

[Scubacarrot]

Hasn’t Yoda has explicitly stated that a player won’t be mod-killed/replaced, as long as they post and vote each day?

Anyways, I would imagine that if Ili Seosty was a Sith; her fellow Sith would have been urging her to start posting more. Monn's contributions haven't been very helpful. Maybe his scum buddies have been urging him to start posting more? Just so that he can avoid scrutiny for being inactive.

Yoda has stated that, yes, it's still annoying someone can come, say: Hai Guyzzzz!omglol! I haven't read the thread, haha, but I vote for Person A because he is stinky, haha lol, see you in 72 hourz!! Bai!

That's what I would think too, but it seems if she was Sith, her "tactic" is working, she is still alive on day 5, with give or take 10 posts in total.

It's a distinct possibility.

[Dannylonglegs]

Well, it's interesting that this whole kerfuffle between Vebb and Oki resolved so smoothly. I expected Vebb to engage in a lengthy rant. So, having looked at both of the PM lists (well, at least obi's and the 'important stuff' from Vebb's) It seems like either a mis-communication from R2 to Nahdar, or a tricky attempt to find out if Obi claimed anything other than Vanilla or to gauge Nahdar's alignment. He told me in PM that his theory about either Nahdar or Fisto being the SK was mostly to "see what happens." He made several like attempts to get a feel for who was what, so I wouldn't put it past him, and I don't think Obi would have had any reason at all to lie to him even if he was scum. The only reason I could think of to account for him editing/omitting one of the PMs he posted is that he did claim and doesn't want the scum to know that he has a role/what it is, but I doubt that. One of you could still be lying, but I don't think it's as pressing an issue anymore now that it's resolved.

I'm not sure I completely understand what's going on here, to be honest. Is it that R2 told Vebb that Kenobi claimed a role to him, and then Kenobi denied it and claimed vanilla? If not, then I need to seriously sit down with this stuff and get it through my head. It looks, important, though!

Yes, that's what happened. I thought it would be really important, but now that the PM's are out, it looks like it could be a misunderstanding.

I agree, that's probably why the SK was converted over to the Sith. Like Vebb, I'm starting to have serious doubts about the balance of this situation...

Well, that's the only reason I can see for why the SK is toting a black blaster now. The force is indeed out of balance.

Yeah, he was one of the only 7 or 8. But now that he's dead, looks like I'm off Scott free! When 3PO came up 'unknown', a lot of people were suspicious of me, not just R2.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Vebb who came up with the idea of lynching Euna to prove 3PO's allegiance, and, through the transitive property, mine? (which was a pretty flawed plan, by the way)

Yes allot of people where rightfully suspicious of you when we couldn't see if you were leading us correctly or incorrectly. That, coupled with the number of 'inconvenient occurrences' that followed the Lynching of C-3PO made many skeptical.

I believe it was he who suggested it, but there were many reasons to suspect her as I laid out yesterday, compounded by her scummy actions. Nahdar's theory was really just icing on the 'reasons to Lynch her' cake.

Do you actually hear yourself? Yeah, I'm scum because I get angry when all the hard work I put into catching scum seems to be for nothing as Jedi keep on dying. Apparently having genuine emotions is now a scumtell. Go figure.

I gotta say, I understand what she's talking about. The amount of emotion ( a la ) in your posts seems a bit forced, even over-compensatory.

Since the other two of the Three C's have died, I've kept myself well protected. They can't touch me.

You told me that too. How many others have you told that too? Hopefully I'm not the only one, because I'm thinking, someone you told that to is scum... Unless you're scum!

Now, on the subject of Volvif:

I too am suspicious of Voolvif, and his more recent post is making those suspicions even stronger. Voolvif, here's a word of advice: if you really are town (which I'm starting to seriously doubt), then you need to start participating. Give us a reason not to lynch you, because believe me, we will.

Yes, He has only been doing the bare minimum in terms of participation. Every day he is FoSed by someone and he hardly ever responds. He follows the basic trends of the day and posts every now and then barely a paragraph, which is mostly all recap. From experiences in the archives, I can tell you, that is how a beginner scum/SK acts.

This post has some red flags going up for me. It seems to me that Voolvif doesn't completely understand what this thing is all about, but he's more than happy to watch two Jedi going at it. He's been under the spotlight quite a bit during these last few days, and another quarrel like this is a nice opportunity for him to slip under the radar unnoticed today.

Agreed.

FoS: Voolvif Monn (JackJonespaw)

[Palathadric]

Yoda has stated that, yes, it's still annoying someone can come, say: Hai Guyzzzz!omglol! I haven't read the thread, haha, but I vote for Person A because he is stinky, haha lol, see you in 72 hourz!! Bai!

That's what I would think too, but it seems if she was Sith, her "tactic" is working, she is still alive on day 5, with give or take 10 posts in total.

It's a distinct possibility.

It's very hard to tell. Did anyone check her online status? Chances are she hasn't been online for a while, and if that's the case I don't really blame her for not posting much and posting worthless posts, although that in no way clears her. Voolvif Monn on the other hand...I don't think he has any excuse. It is frustrating when townies don't post as much as they should, because the natural thing is to think that a quiet person must be town, because scum wouldn't want to draw suspicion on themselves. However, the scum know this too and may use it to their advantage. It often seems to be the case that the most scummy person ends up staying alive for a long while.

[Dannylonglegs]

Anyways, I would imagine that if Ili Seosty was a Sith; her fellow Sith would have been urging her to start posting more. Monn's contributions haven't been very helpful. Maybe his scum buddies have been urging him to start posting more? Just so that he can avoid scrutiny for being inactive.

I concur. Monn's posts have increased since day one and he is firmly in the range of 'posting to avoid suspicion.' I find it probable that his behavior is an effort to lay low.

It's very hard to tell. Did anyone check her online status? Chances are she hasn't been online for a while, and if that's the case I don't really blame her for not posting much and posting worthless posts, although that in no way clears her. Voolvif Monn on the other hand...I don't think he has any excuse. It is frustrating when townies don't post as much as they should, because the natural thing is to think that a quiet person must be town, because scum wouldn't want to draw suspicion on themselves. However, the scum know this too and may use it to their advantage. It often seems to be the case that the most scummy person ends up staying alive for a long while.

She comes on every now and then and doesn't post anything (but that could be because she doesn't think she has the time to contribute. ) I agree that if she was scum, someone would have really told her to SPEAK UP! It's noticeable and suspicious how little she talks.

[Masked Builder]

Gree forces his way into the room and announces, "You may now vote."

You have 46 hours to get your vote in.

Sorry, internet was out.

[Piranha]

Euna was a good Jedi??

I have to say, she did not do anything to convince anyone that she wasn't a Sith. However the only thing was, that she did give up early and that is usually a sign of pro town, the Sith don't give up because they always have someone backing them up, Town have no one.

R2-D2 is a harsh loss, it is possible if you look at his last post, he was trying to propose some theories and maybe he was truly onto something.

Lunimara is also a bad loss for the Town, the SK was probably converted to Sith when Vos died because they couldn't be cured.

I still think C-3PO was a scum who was janitored, to throw us into confusion.

Hmm, unfortunately this just supports what I've been pondering over the last couple days. Not to interrupt the Obi-Wan/Vebb discussion, but I feel like I need to say this. I know someone is going to hate me when I share my opinion (it seems it always is like that) but I'd like to help get some major scum out of the way.

I'd like to propose a theory WHY the scum would've killed R2-D2, rather than other members. I believe, that it is because Coryn is scum, and has been cleverly disguising himself as a helpful townie for the last few days:

Lets think through this in a logical way. Why would the scum kill R2-D2? Because he was one of the only people who has been recently suspecting Coryn as a scum. He was planning on presenting his theory on Coryn to the public, but wanted to talk to a couple other players and see what the Euna's outcome was first. It seems that he was never given this opportunity, and unfortunately he didn't share most of his information with me, so there are probably discussions that he had with people, in support of this point, that I am not aware of.

Anyways, if Coryn was scum, then it would make sense that C3PO was janitored! It was a clever maneuver to make us think that C3PO was scum, but in reality, he was innocent, and Coryn was scum.

There are a few other points I'd like to mention. Coryn's overly enthusiastic head-wall-slamming, whenever some Jedi are killed during the night, is getting suspicious to me. Go back and look, its that way here in Day Five, and also in Day Four. It seems to me that he's trying to make himself look pro-town by wailing for the death of the poor fellows, but in reality no one is making as big a fuss about it as he is. Whats done is done, making posts filled with head-slamming emoticons might seem like town-ish behavior at first, but already twice is starting to overdo it. I also find him suspicious of his all-of-a-sudden remembering yesterday that he "accidentally" told C3PO about the true identity of Sherlock. I know this is "old news", but its an important point. That wasn't a kind of thing that he would just happen to remember. It probably didn't actually happen (and the other two witnesses are dead, mind you), and he made it up to clear himself up. He has been seeming to make up plenty of good excuses, but being a good talker doesn't mean he's a good-guy!

Now something else that really doesn't make sense is this: the fact that he was the in the previous group of leading members, and he's the only one left. It would make sense if the mafia was killing the important townies - Corobb is gone, C3PO is now also gone... and what with Coryn!? He's definitely one of the most influential members of this game, and if he isn't with the scum then he really should be dead by now!

So this is how I find R2-D2's murder by the mafia extremely disturbing and the main reason that Coryn is the scum we've been looking for.

FoS: Coryn Kelens (Tamamono)

As for the Obi-Wan and Vebb argument (just so that we don't forget about that), it seems to me that Vebb might be in the wrong, unless he wants to give some proof, he seems suspicious. I would suggest both parties giving their PMs in public, and if Vebb won't do it then its very possible that he is also a guilty one.

Let us not forget your scummy behavior that flew under the radar on Day Three, if you remember the discussion was clearly leading to a C-3PO lynch, so if he is scum you probably are too.

Guys, don't forget about Ili Seosty who has been acting scummy for the last couple days... inactive and scummy...

FoS: (Shaak Ti - Flare)

Coryn I still think is Town because he was instrumental in getting two confirmed Sith lynched, why would a scum do that to his fellow scum??

It is also possible Obi-Wan did make a role claim and that he is a PR but he is denying it so the scum don't get him in the night.

[Palathadric]

It is possible, but it's not true. I am not a power role. Am I doing anything convince you?

You have been on more than one of my contact's scumlists though, Ithra. Now you seem to be prying as to whether I have a power role. Well, even if I did I certainly wouldn't tell you. You did a great job in following exactly what Coryn said, pretty much. If you were town, why would you suggest out in the open that I could possibly be a power role trying to hide my identity. It is not like there is a whole lot of pressure on me at the moment, so it's not as if you are preventing me from getting lynched by saying that this is a possiblity.

I have not forgotten Master Ti's defense of C-3PO, but you also must not forget that Euna too defended C-3PO and she was a jedi. We have no real proof against C-3PO, and therefore no real proof against Shaak. Even if C-3PO was a sith, that wouldn't automatically make Shaak one as well.

That's not to say I haven't been keeping my eye on him and that I won't in the future. I will be, but I will be keeping a much more diligent eye on you.

Euna was a jedi and jedi are good. You don't seem to care much that we lost another jedi and therefore one more down instead of being one more up against the sith.

[Piranha]

It is possible, but it's not true. I am not a power role. Am I doing anything convince you?

You have been on more than one of my contact's scumlists though, Ithra. Now you seem to be prying as to whether I have a power role. Well, even if I did I certainly wouldn't tell you. You did a great job in following exactly what Coryn said, pretty much. If you were town, why would you suggest out in the open that I could possibly be a power role trying to hide my identity. It is not like there is a whole lot of pressure on me at the moment, so it's not as if you are preventing me from getting lynched by saying that this is a possiblity.

I have not forgotten Master Ti's defense of C-3PO, but you also must not forget that Euna too defended C-3PO and she was a jedi. We have no real proof against C-3PO, and therefore no real proof against Shaak. Even if C-3PO was a sith, that wouldn't automatically make Shaak one as well.

That's not to say I haven't been keeping my eye on him and that I won't in the future. I will be, but I will be keeping a much more diligent eye on you.

Euna was a jedi and jedi are good. You don't seem to care much that we lost another jedi and therefore one more down instead of being one more up against the sith.

That is fine with me, I got nothing to hide. I was not prying by mentioning one other possibility between your and Vebb's conversation, but I also don't think you are a power role and that somewhere along the line R2 or Vebb confused it or whatever. I just wanted to put that option out there becuase sometimes it does happen where a power role will make up a code name when it is them. In other words I don't think you are scum and I was trying to point to the fact that your and Vebb's conversation doesn't make one of you scum. Does that make any sense?

One thing worries me though, your last line about me not worrying about losing a good Jedi, I am, I was just saying Euna was not very helpful when she was around.

[Flare]

Coryn, you said that you've kept myself well protected, and they can't touch you? How so? Maybe you'd be willing to explain! I'd be very interested in listening.

Ithra, you seem a bit quick to accuse me and defend Coryn, and without a solid argument as to why you should point your finger at me. Well, why would Coryn help lynch two other scums? Maybe that was the scum plan, to weasel a scum into the respected townies group, and then you'll have that excuse. I don't know. But still, my argument on page 2 seems stronger than anyone else's argument against it.

At this point I feel almost absolutely sure that Coryn is scum, but I will refrain to vote until I hear your responses.

[Scubacarrot]

I've laid out reasons why it is very likely Coryn is scum yesterday in the thread, Along with the fact that we are almost certain the SK works with the scum now, this makes for a pretty darn good case against the blue-haired guy. Just pointing to something: if it was an acceptable theory C-3PO was converted night 1, is it not also possible (if not more so) that Coryn was converted night 1? Just throwing the possibility out there.

I feel he has not (properly) responded to most of what I've said, and I think it's very likely he is scum at this point, I also think the fact he claims to be protected is very fishy. Unless I hear something else, I'm going to vote for Coryn.

[Tamamono]

Coryn, you said that you've kept myself well protected, and they can't touch you? How so? Maybe you'd be willing to explain! I'd be very interested in listening.

I've had a doctor protecting me. How else would I be protected?

Ithra, you seem a bit quick to accuse me and defend Coryn, and without a solid argument as to why you should point your finger at me. Well, why would Coryn help lynch two other scums? Maybe that was the scum plan, to weasel a scum into the respected townies group, and then you'll have that excuse. I don't know. But still, my argument on page 2 seems stronger than anyone else's argument against it.

Oh right, the age old "You're defending the guy I'm attacking with my feeble case! You must be scum too!" act.

Do you have any idea how stupid your 'possible scum plan' sounds? Why the hell would I kill two of my teammates just to get a flimsy position in the town? No scum has ever done that, and I highly doubt any scum ever will, because it's truly a terrible plan.

You're suffering from some serious tunnel vision, Shaak, and it appears that you've completely convinced yourself that I'm scum. Since the beginning of Day 1, I have been working my megablocks off for this town, and (at least I believe) we've got 3 scum because of the effort Roron and I put in. Like I said before, if you're really hellbent on leading a lynch on one of the only people actually trying to help, then be my guest. Maybe when I'm dead and found to be a Jedi you can show a little bit of appreciation.

I feel he has not (properly) responded to most of what I've said, and I think it's very likely he is scum at this point, I also think the fact he claims to be protected is very fishy. Unless I hear something else, I'm going to vote for Coryn.

You too? I honestly can not believe you people. I put my time and energy into catching scum, and this is how you repay me!?

As for today's vote, I strongly believe that Voolvif is the correct lynch for today. I'm not going to vote for him until I hear his defense, but I'm pretty sure he's the correct lynch for today.

[Scubacarrot]

Guilt tripping people in not voting for you now instead of an actual defense? that's always fun.

[Tamamono]

Guilt tripping people in not voting for you now instead of an actual defense? that's always fun.

It's not 'guilt tripping'. I am one of the only people in the Temple really working to catch scum, and I find it incredibly moronic that you want to lynch me.

[Dannylonglegs]

I've laid out reasons why it is very likely Coryn is scum yesterday in the thread, Along with the fact that we are almost certain the SK works with the scum now, this makes for a pretty darn good case against the blue-haired guy. Just pointing to something: if it was an acceptable theory C-3PO was converted night 1, is it not also possible (if not more so) that Coryn was converted night 1? Just throwing the possibility out there.

I feel he has not (properly) responded to most of what I've said, and I think it's very likely he is scum at this point, I also think the fact he claims to be protected is very fishy. Unless I hear something else, I'm going to vote for Coryn.

I'm not quite sure why the SK working with the scum incriminates Coryn.

It is a possibility, but he was the one who came out with the info in the first place. You'd think a scum would try and cast doubt on the investigation results instead of stating them in a gungho manner and insisting we Lynch Ssith.

Also, as a side note, after going back (in my memories) to day two, I realized that the flagrant use of emotion (emoticons) is not only reserved for when he lynches a jedi.

I don't. I believe he told me this on day three:

I know all the actions, so it would make sense for the scum to try to take me out one way or another. Luckily, I've got protection tonight (and probably for most nights as long as our protector lives)

Obviously, it's not a closely guarded secret that he's got protection and we've known he knows the protector... and the blocker since at least day 3.

The protector (Totoro) has said that his target was not attacked on either night. And, as far as I know, the blocker didn't block anybody important night 1. I think a conversion is very likely, and I think it was performed on 3PO.

Don't you think there would be a bit of an upheaval from the real protector and blocker if he was lying? As far as we know both of these two are still alive.

[Scubacarrot]

It's not 'guilt tripping'. I am one of the only people in the Temple really working to catch scum, and I find it incredibly moronic that you want to lynch me.

So what the rest of the people in the temple are doing is not helpful, come on, we are with 14, a few are standing around, but most of us are active in one way or the other, and not all of us are Sith, obviously, so frankly, it's pretty insulting you are basically suggesting people are not working to catch scum. I have been incredibly vocal in the last few days in particular, making long, extensive posts. I don't see you having done anything of the sort, really. You supported the lynch for Euna, but earlier you called it "a pretty flawed plan"? Come on man, step up your game.

I'm not quite sure why the SK working with the scum incriminates Coryn.

I said this in thread(last day or today, can't remember too much), pretty sure R2 also gave some input on this , gave good reasoning too, if you can't be bothered to read it, thats your issue, not mine.

Also, as a side note, after going back (in my memories) to day two, I realized that the flagrant use of emotion (emoticons) is not only reserved for when he lynches a jedi.

You are arguing about the use of emoticons?! I have but one suitable response for that:

[Flare]

So what the rest of the people in the temple are doing is not helpful, come on, we are with 14, a few are standing around, but most of us are active in one way or the other, and not all of us are Sith, obviously, so frankly, it's pretty insulting you are basically suggesting people are not working to catch scum. I have been incredibly vocal in the last few days in particular, making long, extensive posts. I don't see you having done anything of the sort, really. You supported the lynch for Euna, but earlier you called it "a pretty flawed plan"? Come on man, step up your game.

I said this in thread(last day or today, can't remember too much), pretty sure R2 also gave some input on this , gave good reasoning too, if you can't be bothered to read it, thats your issue, not mine.

I agree with this statement from Nahdar. Unless Ithra says something soon, I know who I'm voting for.

[Scubacarrot]

Don't you think there would be a bit of an upheaval from the real protector and blocker if he was lying? As far as we know both of these two are still alive.

Newsflash: He told me in private after he said that there was no blocker, as far as he knew.

[Dannylonglegs]

I said this in thread(last day or today, can't remember too much), pretty sure R2 also gave some input on this , gave good reasoning too, if you can't be bothered to read it, thats your issue, not mine.

I couldn't find yours quickly, and I don't have much time to do so now, but Ti did mention how that adds to her suspicions (Why, I still can't tell )

You are arguing about the use of emoticons?! I have but one suitable response for that:

Not arguing. One point Ti raised earlier, that I agreed with, was that his use of emotions was pretty flagrant and therefore suspicious. I just now said that I don't think his use was unusual because he has always used them allot. Understand?

Newsflash: He told me in private after he said that there was no blocker, as far as he knew.

Hmm. I might have misread the quote I quoted then. Either way, the point I was making is that he does know the protector, and no one else counterclaimed, or showed initiative to lynch him once he 'claimed' he knew the protector (indicating they knew he was lying.)