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It's not going to help us find scum to share hopes that a dead Malone, who may possibly have had a PR, got a chance to pass it on at his death. Are you seeing something that I'm not? :sceptic:

And I may be ignorant of Mafia history, but I do think passing on actions is rare at best. Again, I could be wrong.

Posted

Isn't that about all we can do at this point? As much as I support a lack of killing on the first day, sitting on our hands after that is just foolish and only benefits the scum. Given our inability to communicate privately, we have no investigation results to go on, so what would you have us do if we aren't supposed to speculate about issues we have no real knowledge about? That's everything. At least it is for those of us in the town, the scum should have lots of knowledge, but they don't need to speculate. There's something to think about.

It's easy to look at pictures and think of possibilities, but what's the point. In the end we're left with the possibilities that either Donny had an action or he didn't and that if he did, he passed it on or he didn't. In my opinion such talk is the kind that scum would use to try to appear helpful without saying anything to help move anything along.

Posted

It's easy to look at pictures and think of possibilities, but what's the point. In the end we're left with the possibilities that either Donny had an action or he didn't and that if he did, he passed it on or he didn't. In my opinion such talk is the kind that scum would use to try to appear helpful without saying anything to help move anything along.

Actually, it's the kind of thing that helps give me an idea of what people are thinking, and if I know what they're thinking, I have a better chance of figuring out what perspective they're looking at the situation from. That's incredibly useful to me, and I hope others.

If you have a conversation suggestion that you think would be more useful, though, please feel free to add it.

Posted

Bottom line, if that was a scum kill, it's quite possible that there isn't a SK and if a vig exists, they aren't randomly bloodthirsty. Out of all the possibilities, this is the scenario I'm hoping for, since it's that's the one that is best for us.

I temd to agree with that sentiment. Personally I'd currently go on the side of what seems most likely, which is that the billboard kill was a Ferrari kill. We have no idea how they're going to try and kill us after all, so there is not really any way to rule that out yet as "not the way the scum are meant to kill". If it were an SK or vig kill, then what happened to the scum kill? Lucky first night block? I kinda doubt it.

Until we have evidence of two kills existing, I'm not going to speculate on there being SKs and Vigs. I'd say that, most likely, that poor Drogonov was killed by the Ferraris. If that is not the case, then the next likely situation is that the Ferrari kill was blocked somehow, and Drogonov was killed by a vigilante among us. If that is not the case, then we can consider the possibility of an SK.

As for Drogonov having a power role, it does seem like one might have been hinted at... but again I'm not going to make any assumptions. The dialogue is, after all, merely telling us the events of last night, it's not anything we're meant to be able to use as information in helping us find the Ferraris.

Those are my thoughts as your humble tailor anyway, time for me to shape my latest masterpiece, a gorgeous tangerine coat for our Don. :wub:

Posted

I'm getting a feeling that we're going to be in a lot of trouble soon if people don't start throwing votes out. We need a conviction today, and we need the time to change a vote if we go in the wrong direction.

Posted

It took far too long and far too many people asking to get an answer out of Byron as to why he voted for Penelope. And even then, it was a pretty soft justification.

Vote: The Great Byron (Bob)

Posted

It took far too long and far too many people asking to get an answer out of Byron as to why he voted for Penelope. And even then, it was a pretty soft justification.

Vote: The Great Byron (Bob)

I saw this coming from a mile away, and I'm not even a psychic. I'm a magician.

You've had a hard-on for me since this whole affair started. Why? I explained myself to you sufficiently and yet you still refuse to believe my reasoning. I'm not going to vote for you, because even though you appear to be misguided and a bit odd, there's someone else I have my eye on:

Vote: Doğukan Akbulut / Dragonator

Where have you been, fair tailor? You show up, reiterate what people have already said, and make generally fluffy statements. Why? What are you hiding? You didn't even bother to post during the day and you only showed up when someone confronted you by saying that you're not around.

Posted

Who on earth are you voting for Byron? I am sorry, but this is absurd. You vote for someone that doesn't exist. Explain that.

What? :wacko: Byron definitely voted for a real person...

Posted

Where is everybody? We can't talk by potatoes, so... we're just not talking? How are we going to catch the Ferraris this way? Uncle Tam says "very bad things will happen" if we don't select a lynch, so now we have a little more conversation to work with, we should be doing something and talking more, not less.

Candy hasn't even showed up yet, which is remarkably unhelpful. Let's see if this will get her talking:

Vote: Candy Nelson (Captain Nemo)

Posted

Our discussions so far today do seem a little inconsequential. Interesting to note, as Jamie did, that Shane's comments tonight has driven the conversation. Similarly, the discussion around policy lynching on Night 1 started with Shane's comments about there not being much to do until we get some night action results.

I've noticed that our tailor hasn't been very helpful to date, and didn't even bother posting during the day. Guess he must be busy tailoring things.

That's funny, unless I missed something, I didn't see you post during the day either... Busy tailoring things too there? :look:

Posted

Where is everybody? We can't talk by potatoes, so... we're just not talking? How are we going to catch the Ferraris this way? Uncle Tam says "very bad things will happen" if we don't select a lynch, so now we have a little more conversation to work with, we should be doing something and talking more, not less.

Candy hasn't even showed up yet, which is remarkably unhelpful. Let's see if this will get her talking:

Vote: Candy Nelson (Captain Nemo)

Uh, hello? I'm not too happy seeing my name on the chopping block for showing up late to the party; It's a long night and there's lots going on (However I do accept your reason for your vote). But I do agree that we as a town need to talk to keep down the wrath of Tam--however like the last few days/nights there's not much to go on; actually no, there's nothing to go on other than we have a possible car/killer/vig death, one Malone down, and no answers--we don't need to beat around the bush on that one; we don't have anything else.

If anything, Tam seems willing to have us throw into lynches we are bound to kill some Malones, which is the last thing any of us want. So even though Tam is warning us, I don't have a place to...place my vote as of now. And I'm not comfortable just throwing out votes to please God if it'll most likely lead to a Malone death.

Posted

While Penelope has a certain point that we won't learn a lot by speculating about whether Donny passed on an action he might have had, I find it odd that he won't stop talking about just that topic, and speculates that actions won't get passed on. I sense a slight contradiction here.

And then there's the general unhelpfulness of his contributions. If he doesn't think that we should talk about night actions, why does he keep talking about them? Why doesn't he bring up another topic? Reading back on the first day, whenever he said something, it was either roleplay or he was trying to shut down a conversation instead of starting a new one.

Another person I find peculiar is Rolfe. Over the course of the night, he's done nothing but going after the Great Byron because of his vote. I don't know why he expects a justification for a Day One vote, his own vote wasn't explained much better, even if he used more words than Byron. As I said, the only vote I find interesting is the Byron's, so I'm fairly glad he voted.

Another thing that I noticed about Rolfe was how quickly he backed out of a discussion with Shane.

During the Day, he kept going on about how he wasn't in favor of a policy lynch, but he would have prefered one over not lynching. Of course, everyone would prefer to lynch based on some evidence rather than without, the real question was "policy lynch vs. none". So, from that point of view he was arguing in favor of a policy lynch, even though he likes to let us know that he didn't.

Overall, I find him unproductive and erratic.

Posted

Vote Count

Penelope Talbott (Palathadric) - 1 (def)

The Great Byron (Bob) - 1 (Capt. Redblade)

Doğukan Akbulut (Dragonator) - 1 (Bob)

Candy Nelson (Captain Nemo) - 1 (Pandora)

32 hours until Dawn.

Posted

We still haven't seen people speaking a lot, and I feel like we need to get our minds set, because if we keep up with our habits, scum will win by a landslide. Nobody's really posted enough for me to get a decent read, and I would normally vote for somebody that is flying under the radar, but since nobody is really posting, nobody's really flying under the radar, so I'm going to go with my suspicion from yesterday and Vote: The Great Byron (Bob)

Posted

I'm going to go ahead and Vote: Cap'n Rolfe (Capt. Redblade). I was put off by his hyper-aggressiveness last night, and I think his vote was unreasonable. Then earlier today he tried to act all easy-going and simply more partial to the idea of a policy lynch than a no lynch. I find that bipolarity disturbing and unhelpful. *SQUACK* And Olly does, too!

Posted

I'm going to put a new candidate on the table! Vote: Terrence Knox (TrumpetKing)

You see, Terrence has a bee in his bonnet over bothering Byron. Yesterday, Terrence said this:

Tony and I aren't liking what we've seen from The Great Byron here. He comes here early, posts some role-play, accuses Colin of making a big deal, when I read it as Colin not being serious, and then he just comes back and votes for someone because "something about them seems off", and "some of the things she's said seem peculiar". I've only seen one thing pointed out, which is the only thing I've noticed. Byron, is there anything else? I really don't care for gut votes, either, but that's just me. I can't help but feel maybe at the beginning you were trying to apply some pressure onto Colin, and are now trying to come and apply pressure to Penelope, when only one thing she's said has struck me as odd.

Notice the bolded parts - Byron voted for Penelope because of a gut feeling something was wrong with her (and later, we find out he wanted to poke her as well). Then Terrence voted for Byron based on discomfort with his roleplaying and a gut feeling about Byron's motives. I admit, I sort of am reading into what he said about gut feelings, but there's more:

Terrence admitted he thought something was odd about Penelope (which was Byron's reason for voting...) but he has not, thus far, said what he things is odd about her.

I think these reasons warrant a vote.

Posted

That's funny, unless I missed something, I didn't see you post during the day either... Busy tailoring things too there? :look:

You're right, I didn't post during the day. Given the big night we'd just had, Tam suggested to me that I should sleep all day. I assume this means someone blocked me. Before you all start wildly speculating about there only being one kill during the day and me being blocked, the only effect of the block was to stop me from talking. So, no posts during the day.

The others that didn't say anything during the day were Doğukan, Priscilla and Donny. Presumably they weren't all blocked, but chances are one of them was. We'll never know if Donny choose to stay silent.

Who on earth are you voting for Byron? I am sorry, but this is absurd. You vote for someone that doesn't exist. Explain that.

Sorry, I got Dakugan and Donny confused.

Who's Dakugan? And, seriously, these are your contributions for tonight?

On the topic of Doğukan, though, I agree with Byron's assessment. His response to being called out didn't have much substance and specifically didn't address the fact that he'd said nothing during the day. For these reasons, and for generally not contributing anything helpful to this point, I am going to:

Vote: Doğukan Akbulut (Dragonator)

Priscilla also fits in the "not helping us much" bucket, so I'd like to hear from her also. She must be too busy with her hair, make up and nails to prepare a list of Ferrari suspects for us.

A couple of other observations:

Uh, hello? ... blah blah

It might help if you pose some questions and do some analysis yourself.

We still haven't seen people speaking a lot, and ....

Funny, because this is exactly what I was thinking about you. You're being awfully quiet compared to your usual lawyer-y self.

Posted

Jamie, I think you're looking too far into it. I was speculating, whereas Byron was voting because he just felt something was off about Penelope. I provided reasoning, Byron had not. Of course my vote was going to be speculation, he provided little to no substance as to why he was voting for Penelope other than it being a gut feeling. I took time to think about what Byron might be doing, compared to Byron who was basically saying that he just gets a scummy vibe off of Penelope. I don't think what I did was based off of a gut feeling.

Now, when it comes to the thing I found off about Penelope, I didn't bring it up because Dexter had already said it, and it wasn't even something I found odd until Dexter pointed it out, so I'm not sure why I should have pointed it out.

Kristina, I understand that I haven't been as active as others, but I definitely wouldn't say I've been the least active, and I've at least been attempting to contribute when I can.

I hope that's cleared up.

Posted

I took time to think about what Byron might be doing, compared to Byron who was basically saying that he just gets a scummy vibe off of Penelope.

I'm pretty sure scum would think carefully about who they're placing their vote on. I'm not convinced that you saying you thought more carefully about it makes you more townie.

Anyway, for now, Unvote: Candy Nelson (Captain Nemo). You turned up, you said stuff. Not a whole lot and nothing groundbreaking certainly, but you at least said something. Let's see if you say any more.

I would agree with Kristina's assessment of things, and I'm worried to hear she was blocked from talking to us. I can't see how that would be a town thing to do (to block someone from talking), as it wouldn't prevent the scum from talking to each other if used on them. Interesting that you're the first to come forward with this information of an unusual role, Kristina. I suspect it is a way to prevent us from communicating with each other effectively during the day phase, but I doubt there is more than one role of this kind. In other words, I don't expect to hear the same reason from Doğukan or Priscilla.

Posted

Kristina, I understand that I haven't been as active as others, but I definitely wouldn't say I've been the least active, and I've at least been attempting to contribute when I can.

I only compared you to yourself, not to anyone else.

I would agree with Kristina's assessment of things, and I'm worried to hear she was blocked from talking to us. I can't see how that would be a town thing to do (to block someone from talking), as it wouldn't prevent the scum from talking to each other if used on them. Interesting that you're the first to come forward with this information of an unusual role, Kristina. I suspect it is a way to prevent us from communicating with each other effectively during the day phase, but I doubt there is more than one role of this kind. In other words, I don't expect to hear the same reason from Doğukan or Priscilla.

Just to clarify, I only know that I was blocked. Since the only thing I can do is talk, I was blocked from talking. I don't know if the blocker was specifically blocking me from talking. That would be an unusual action, although feasible given the nature of this game of life. More likely they were just blocking me from using a NA (or should we be calling it Day Action?) if I had one. I've been working on the assumption it was a Ferrari that blocked me.

Posted

I did not receive any suggestions from Tam that I should sleep during the day. The reason why I did not post over the course of Day 2 is because Tam moved us along to Night 2 before I had a chance to post in Day 2.

I have been keeping my eye on Colin, after a tiff with Shane, Colin summed it up on Night 1 by saying he was suspicious of Shane,

My thoughts before the end of the night.

No one's been particularly quiet. Not particularly helpful either but being the first day, that's to be expected.

I think there was some planting of confusion seeds by people equating a first day lynch with a "policy lynch" or randomness. I think there are definitely some logical fallacies going around. That reminds me, I should really find the helmet to this suit so I don't have to breathe the same air as those contaminated. I'd hate to come down with a case of the stupids at such a critical time.

The biggest thing that an agrument against first day lynches does is cause no one to want to vote. So then all that happens is first day fluff. What will we have tomorrow? No more information than we have today but with a few dead Malones. Especially in this open format, we need to be proactive.

My biggest suspicion right now is Shane. I think it's very possible that he's an italian sports car in disguise. I don't have any evidence so I don't feel a vote is justified in his case, but I probably trust him less right now than anyone else.

We need to do better tomorrow or we'll all be dead fairly quickly. I don't know about you guys but I'd like to remain above ground for the forseeable future.

But sat by and did nothing over the course of Day 2, only making the first post that doesn't mean anything to me.

Wow. I'm just exhausted this morning. I feel like I didn't sleep at all. Oh, that's right. We were up all night not doing anything really constructive.

My radiation suit is chafing...

So Colin, are you still suspicious of Shane?

Posted

This is looking bad. How many people are up for lynch?

Penelope Talbott (Palathadric) - 1 (def)

The Great Byron (Bob) - 2 (Capt. Redblade, Trumpet)

Doğukan Akbulut (Dragonator) - 1 (Bob, Kristel)

Rolfe (Redblade) 1 - (Adam)

Terrence (Trumpet) 1 - (James)

So, we need to get a majority lynch, we have about 24 hours left, and there were four lynch candidates (including Candy, which has been unvoted)... and Abigail and Jamie add new lynch candidates? Not entirely wrong to do if they have very strong reasons, but they are clearly helping not to have a majority lynch and basically throwing away their votes. It's as if they want to help the scum... or one of the lynch nominees were scum and they wanted to defend (though it's a little early to do so). I think there is a strong chance that scum is nominated already, and if we catch one tonight, we would have a great reason to lynch Abigail and/or Jamie tomorrow.

I still think that Penelope has been the most off, but Byron had two votes at the time, making him somewhat of a vote-leader. Tentatively, I will:

Unvote: Penelope (Palathadric)

Vote: Byron (Bob)

Posted

You know, Dexter, every candidate (except Byron) had one vote by the time I had voted. I am not trying to avoid a majority lynch by any means; I merely introduced a new suggestion for the lynch. If it's necessary for me to change my vote in order for a majority to go through, I will, but for now I am happy where I am given there is only one clear front-runner.

And lots of people have yet to vote.

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