LEGO Hobbit 2014

[TheLegoDr]

Maybe lego just didn't care about this license do they didn't go all out for sets. OR the licenser didn't care and didn't give lego permission to duo what they needed to sell sets. Didn't a lot of people say most Hobbit toys haven't been available or what people wanted. Maybe it isn't lego's fault completely.

[KristofBD]

Lake-town could of been a $60-70 set and woulda FLOWN off shelves with Smaug in it cause its MUCH more affordable to them.

Well given the huge price hike Smaug brings with it, a 60-70$ Lake town set with Smaug would probably just have a bilbo and two bricks next to it

No I totally get that Smaug is in the biggest set: Smaug is the flagship. And it is a smart wove money wise as well: kids who want to reenact the battle of lake town now will have to ask their parents for two sets: lake town bell tower set and the erebor set.

Honestly I `an more interested in the rest of the wave. Especially the B0FA. For now, let's just wait for more info and pics.

[Blakstone]

LEGO had been strongly promoting Hobbit at Comic Con each year and this year is no exception. I think fans of this line are being treated well.

That said, we always want more sets, minifigures, and new molds. We still might get polybags like the last two waves.

But the second Hobbit film made less money than the first and that combined with lower merchandising revenue is likely the cause of a strinking line, not that LEGO doesn't care or New Line is preventing more merchandising.

[Fives]

LEGO had been strongly promoting Hobbit at Comic Con each year and this year is no exception. I think fans of this line are being treated well.

That said, we always want more sets, minifigures, and new molds. We still might get polybags like the last two waves.

But the second Hobbit film made less money than the first and that combined with lower merchandising revenue is likely the cause of a strinking line, not that LEGO doesn't care or New Line is preventing more merchandising.

In comparison to LOTR, The Hobbit has had barely any merchandising for kids. I still have all of my LOTR action figures from back in the day, and remember how there were countless toys and games based on the trilogy. For some reason The Hobbit just hasn't had the same affect, so LEGO has realized that they shouldn't invest too much in a line that likely won't make the return. I bet there are a lot of LEGO designers weeping because of how they've had to cut down the LOTR and Hobbit lines, but alas, the toy market is a fickle bitch.

Also, it just dawned in me that this LEGO Smaug will be the first and only Smaug toy out there. Seems strange that there haven't be at least some plushies of him.

[kevkipo]

In comparison to LOTR, The Hobbit has had barely any merchandising for kids. I still have all of my LOTR action figures from back in the day, and remember how there were countless toys and games based on the trilogy. For some reason The Hobbit just hasn't had the same affect, so LEGO has realized that they shouldn't invest too much in a line that likely won't make the return. I bet there are a lot of LEGO designers weeping because of how they've had to cut down the LOTR and Hobbit lines, but alas, the toy market is a fickle bitch.

Also, it just dawned in me that this LEGO Smaug will be the first and only Smaug toy out there. Seems strange that there haven't be at least some plushies of him.

You have the Funko Bobble-head and Vinyl figure, and the bridge direct Smaug...

[atreyu2112]

Fives is right. There is 1/4 the merchandise for The Hobbit than there was for LotR. BUT, The Bridge Direct REALLY dropped the ball with their figures. That whole situation was a mess from the get-go. That being said, TBD has PROMISED their Smaug figure will be released late this year. Considering how they got out all the rest of the dwarves they showed at past conventions, I wouldn't hold my breath.

From TBD Facebook page:

Wish we could be at San Diego Comic-Con International this year, but make sure to checkout our friends at Weta Workshop and their booth for The Hobbit #3613 to get your Hobbit fix. Be sure to also keep posted for our upcoming announcement on our Smaug figure set to be launched later this fall!

Edited July 27, 2014 by atreyu2112

[Alcarin]

LEGO had been strongly promoting Hobbit at Comic Con each year and this year is no exception. I think fans of this line are being treated well.

That said, we always want more sets, minifigures, and new molds. We still might get polybags like the last two waves.

But the second Hobbit film made less money than the first and that combined with lower merchandising revenue is likely the cause of a strinking line, not that LEGO doesn't care or New Line is preventing more merchandising.

Ofc the 2nd hobbit film made less money its not even Hobbit film anymore.... its a disaster to say the least.... a made out PJ film and he picked out all characters from Hobbit..... the Bombur rolling in barrel and rambo style just made it officially over the top for me..... luckily LOTR is watchable and realistic.

[Deathleech]

Well given the huge price hike Smaug brings with it, a 60-70$ Lake town set with Smaug would probably just have a bilbo and two bricks next to it

No I totally get that Smaug is in the biggest set: Smaug is the flagship. And it is a smart wove money wise as well: kids who want to reenact the battle of lake town now will have to ask their parents for two sets: lake town bell tower set and the erebor set.

The Goblin King Battle was 841 pieces for $100 bucks but had a large molded creature and more minifigures. The Smaug set is what, 866 pieces for $130 with 5 minifigures? I would guesstimate Smaug is in the $30-40 range all by himself. Add him to the Lake-town set which is already $30 and you would probably get a set around $60-70, no? If it should cost more you could always cut out some of the bricks used or something. At any rate I think that would sell MUCH better than Lego's currently planned line up. You say kids will have to buy two sets to re-enact the Lake-town Battle. That is great for Lego, but not when one of those sets is 130 bucks. Most kids will have trouble getting that set alone, let alone another $30 set on top of it.

But the second Hobbit film made less money than the first and that combined with lower merchandising revenue is likely the cause of a strinking line, not that LEGO doesn't care or New Line is preventing more merchandising.

It's true the second movie made less, but they both made around a billion dollars each. That is hardly a flop or "bad" profit. Maybe it's not as good as the original LotR films 10 years ago, but it's still commendable. I just think the source material for the Hobbit and the films themselves aren't near as good as the LotR versions. PJ went over the top with the CGI and silly action sequences and has added so much of his own material. Regardless with being such huge money makers it is a little odd we have so few Hobbit toys...

[legofreak86]

Looks like Tomorrow 8pm (GMT) will be the first look we get at what the next wave is based upon! Just thought I'd throw it out there! This teaser for the trailer alone makes me 1. want to see more, 2. want to see the rest of the line of sets

[Lynx]

Ofc the 2nd hobbit film made less money its not even Hobbit film anymore.... its a disaster to say the least.... a made out PJ film and he picked out all characters from Hobbit..... the Bombur rolling in barrel and rambo style just made it officially over the top for me..... luckily LOTR is watchable and realistic.

That part was cringe-worthy! The same with Legolas fighting in Lake-Town. That orc being catapulted from the boat… The utter disregard of basic physics imposed an exaggerated, cartoonish feel to it. It's particularly difficult given the success of a popular fantasy TV series. I guess that watching the Hobbit movies with that TV show in mind can be underwhelming for many casual fans. No real sense of danger, very limited realism with regards to physics, CGI-fighting taken out of a video game and an overabundance of juvenile humour vs … well, Game of Thrones.

Looks like Tomorrow 8pm (GMT) will be the first look we get at what the next wave is based upon! Just thought I'd throw it out there! This teaser for the trailer alone makes me 1. want to see more, 2. want to see the rest of the line of sets https://www.facebook...711201182260414

I read that some fans on Theonering.net speculate about the possible omission of Dain and the Iron Hill dwarves! I cannot believe even Jackson would consider this change, and it would be immensely disappointing for the new sets. Dain, Iron Hill dwarves and bear Beorn are the two three (aside from Smaug) I was most looking forward to.

[Floundie]

I don't believe he will cut out Dain. He just plays too huge of a role in the story to do such a thing. Having just 13 dwarves in the battle is too silly of a choice. Plus that would mean we would have to get all 13 dwarves again across the four new sets, which is a particularly scary thought.

That teaser of the teaser looks awesome!! I regret having read spoilers for the trailer, but, too late for that.

[legofreak86]

Speculation is just that. Pure fancy! I take any idle speculation with a bucket of salt. There is nothing to suggest anything like that will happen. Besides they have filmed many sequences with iron hill dwarf armies and they even appear in the banner image and promo images I believe. Jackson would not change that part of the source so much. Even in the second film (which for the record I highly enjoy)he kept true at least to the progression of events throughout the book. Journey through mirkwood encountering elves and spiders check, Arrival in laketown with the help of bard the bowman check, given means to get to the mountain by the master of laketown check, Bilbo's confrontation with smaug check, smaug's (extended)departure from erebor check. Yeah they changed which dwarves went where, explained who sent the army of orcs, gave smaug a better reason to attack laketown, explained where Gandalf was at whilst linking the films to the lord of the rings, made the barrel chase less mundane for a more mainstream audience. Plus a few added/expanded characters for linking/context. Besides it wouldn't exactly be five armies without the dwarves and dain would it!

[Deathleech]

Well right now we are missing the Witch King, Eowyn, and the entire Gondor faction from the LotR line so I wouldn't be surprised if a few big characters don't make it into Lego Hobbit form

[kevkipo]

I read that some fans on Theonering.net speculate about the possible omission of Dain and the Iron Hill dwarves! I cannot believe even Jackson would consider this change, and it would be immensely disappointing for the new sets. Dain, Iron Hill dwarves and bear Beorn are the two three (aside from Smaug) I was most looking forward to.

That's just foolish, Firstly we have heard a London Toyfair report about Dain and Secondly Peter won't even think of that... We've all seen the behind the scene shots featuring Iron Hill dwarves. And what was Billy Collony doing then? I'm sure we will see Iron Hill dwarves and Dain

Well right now we are missing the Witch King, Eowyn, and the entire Gondor faction from the LotR line so I wouldn't be surprised if a few big characters don't make it into Lego Hobbit form

And what are you talking about?

[BlueberryWaffles]

You have the Funko Bobble-head and Vinyl figure, and the bridge direct Smaug...

There's a Funko Smaug? OMG WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS? MUST HAVE.

[kevkipo]

Speculation is just that. Pure fancy! I take any idle speculation with a bucket of salt. There is nothing to suggest anything like that will happen. Besides they have filmed many sequences with iron hill dwarf armies and they even appear in the banner image and promo images I believe. Jackson would not change that part of the source so much. Even in the second film (which for the record I highly enjoy)he kept true at least to the progression of events throughout the book. Journey through mirkwood encountering elves and spiders check, Arrival in laketown with the help of bard the bowman check, given means to get to the mountain by the master of laketown check, Bilbo's confrontation with smaug check, smaug's (extended)departure from erebor check. Yeah they changed which dwarves went where, explained who sent the army of orcs, gave smaug a better reason to attack laketown, explained where Gandalf was at whilst linking the films to the lord of the rings, made the barrel chase less mundane for a more mainstream audience. Plus a few added/expanded characters for linking/context. Besides it wouldn't exactly be five armies without the dwarves and dain would it!

I couldn't agree more with you friend! Peter took the book and made it like everyone could like it. including me

There's a Funko Smaug? OMG WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS? MUST HAVE.

Haha indeed it is awesome

Take a look: http://middleearthnews.com/2014/02/26/more-mathoms-new-hobbit-funko-pop-for-2014/

Edited July 27, 2014 by kevkipo

[Deathleech]

I was responding to the posts above my last about how just because they are main characters doesn't necessarily guarantee we will see them in Lego form. Lego might not give us Iron Hill Dwarves or Dain seeing as we haven't gotten Gondor Soldiers, Eowyn, or the Witch King (yet...).

[Shroffy123]

That part was cringe-worthy! The same with Legolas fighting in Lake-Town. That orc being catapulted from the boat… The utter disregard of basic physics imposed an exaggerated, cartoonish feel to it. It's particularly difficult given the success of a popular fantasy TV series. I guess that watching the Hobbit movies with that TV show in mind can be underwhelming for many casual fans. No real sense of danger, very limited realism with regards to physics, CGI-fighting taken out of a video game and an overabundance of juvenile humour vs … well, Game of Thrones.

I read that some fans on Theonering.net speculate about the possible omission of Dain and the Iron Hill dwarves! I cannot believe even Jackson would consider this change, and it would be immensely disappointing for the new sets. Dain, Iron Hill dwarves and bear Beorn are the two three (aside from Smaug) I was most looking forward to.

What? We know he is in the movie thru interviews with him and BTS stuff

[kevkipo]

I was responding to the posts above my last about how just because they are main characters doesn't necessarily guarantee we will see them in Lego form. Lego might not give us Iron Hill Dwarves or Dain seeing as we haven't gotten Gondor Soldiers, Eowyn, or the Witch King (yet...).

We are talking about Peter leaving out Dain in the movie! I strongly doubt that, if he's in the movie he's in the set that's for sure. besides i point at the Toy Fair reports again

[Faefrost]

I read that some fans on Theonering.net speculate about the possible omission of Dain and the Iron Hill dwarves! I cannot believe even Jackson would consider this change, and it would be immensely disappointing for the new sets. Dain, Iron Hill dwarves and bear Beorn are the two three (aside from Smaug) I was most looking forward to.

I don't believe he will cut out Dain. He just plays too huge of a role in the story to do such a thing. Having just 13 dwarves in the battle is too silly of a choice. Plus that would mean we would have to get all 13 dwarves again across the four new sets, which is a particularly scary thought.

That teaser of the teaser looks awesome!! I regret having read spoilers for the trailer, but, too late for that.

I suspect that the truth lies somewhere in the middle. While the Iron Hills Dwarves will appear in the movie, we most likely will not see much information, exposition or dialogue from or about them until Jackson releases the extended editions. We have become so used to the LotR Extended Editions that we tend to forget just how little of Faramir there was in the Theatrical releases. The Iron Hills dwarves can easily be in the same situation. Especially after all the criticism of how long TUJ ran.

[kevkipo]

I suspect that the truth lies somewhere in the middle. While the Iron Hills Dwarves will appear in the movie, we most likely will not see much information, exposition or dialogue from or about them until Jackson releases the extended editions. We have become so used to the LotR Extended Editions that we tend to forget just how little of Faramir there was in the Theatrical releases. The Iron Hills dwarves can easily be in the same situation. Especially after all the criticism of how long TUJ ran.

It is not wise to make such hasty decisions after so little information has spread! we haven't even seen a Teaser Trailer

Waiting sometimes is the best advice as meanwhile speculations can be made...

[legofreak86]

It is not wise to make such hasty decisions after so little information has spread! we haven't even seen a Teaser Trailer

Waiting sometimes is the best advice as meanwhile speculations can be made...

Yeah I for one am counting the seconds til the teaser tomorrow!!! Just that clip of azog looking over the army, Gandalf with rad's staff and bard has me pumped for the trailer and movie!! I reckon this film may turn out to be the best of the trilogy. This is a cinema event comparable to the final harry potter movie in scope and anticipation! Along with guardians of the galaxy, Age of Ultron and Batman V Superman this film has me hanging on every bit of info!

Edited July 27, 2014 by legofreak86

[Floundie]

I reckon this film may turn out to be the best of the trilogy.

I sure hope so, because personally AUJ was good, and DOS was overall disappointing for me although it had some good moments. If you can fully enjoy both films I am happy for you though. I am optimistic for BOFA, there is just no way PJ could mess it up, unless he makes any alterations to certain outcomes of the battle, that would be infuriating.

Btw now that you mention Gandalf's staff I'm going to have to take a look again...

Edited July 27, 2014 by Floundie

[coolguy2323]

Yeah I for one am counting the seconds til the teaser tomorrow!!! Just that clip of azog looking over the army, Gandalf with rad's staff and bard has me pumped for the trailer and movie!! I reckon this film may turn out to be the best of the trilogy. This is a cinema event comparable to the final harry potter movie in scope and anticipation! Along with guardians of the galaxy, Age of Ultron and Batman V Superman this film has me hanging on every bit of info!

Don't forget Episode VII!!! :p

[Floundie]

Will Bilbo wear this during the battle? Looks like Dale.

I'm bummed we didn't get new face prints for Bilbo this year. A determined/angry combo would have been nice. On top of that I never thought they quite nailed his face, his shire variant looks fine, but his harried version looks too old. And I think his hair would have looked better in dark tan instead of just reusing Sam's. Well, there's nothing that can be done now...