LEGO Hobbit 2014

[Darth Punk]

I believe the set includes various parts of erebor. Iff they are makign anything from the inside the Throne will be the msto iconic part. These ARE gonna be labelled as TABA, not more "trilogy sets" If it includes the forge thats the added part of the set. The throne plays a part in TABA.

Yes, but the throne room with the arkenstone represents AUJ. According those who have seen the set there is an arkenstone hanging in the throne room. So unless PJ has changed the fate of the arkenstone it will be buried with Thorin and not end up in the throne room.

If this is true then the Lonely Mountain represents more than just TABA and could include anything or anyone from all three movies.

While this makes possible for Smaug to be included, it also makes other people who haven't been mentioned such as Thrain possible to be included.

If this is indeed the largest set and $130, almost twice the second most expensive set, I find it highly,unlikely it only represents one movie. And there is no reason it cannot represent the whole trilogy since a Lonely mountain set could be used for scenes from all three movies. That also might explain why it's an interior set, and not of the exterior.

[Trunkbass]

- I hope it's a white dress Galadriel aswell. Gandalf didn't put on anything protective when he went into dol guldur, so why should Galadriel, who supposedly is the most powerful being in middle earth. Lets hope!

Well, actually she isn't. Gandalf is a Maia, i.e. sort of an angel. Galadriel is just an Elf, be it a very powerful one.

[Alcarin]

Well, actually she isn't. Gandalf is a Maia, i.e. sort of an angel. Galadriel is just an Elf, be it a very powerful one.

Exactly... Gandalf is presumably more powerful than Galadriel..... I dont even want to think how much is Tolkien slapping himself for what is happening in Dol Guldur and in Hobbit overall....

[Darth Punk]

Well, actually she isn't. Gandalf is a Maia, i.e. sort of an angel. Galadriel is just an Elf, be it a very powerful one.

Galadriel is much more powerful than Gandalf. And she is considered to be the most powerful of the third age.

[deskp]

Lets not get into a whole conversation about this and get back to lego, the reason i borught it up was concerning weatehr she will wear armor or not in the lego set.

[BrickBob Studpants]

As long as the face and hair are correct, I don't mind if the Galadriel minifig sports armor It also gives the Indy fans among us a more fitting headpiece for the Irina Spalko minifig

[Alcarin]

Lets not get into a whole conversation about this and get back to lego, the reason i borught it up was concerning weatehr she will wear armor or not in the lego set.

I hope not... I mean if she is the most powerful of the 3rd age she wouldnt need any would she....

[Darth Punk]

As I remember gandalf dies. And being powerful doesn't make one immortal. Lets not forget who wielded Nenya and lays waste to Dol Guldur. I don't remember, does Tolkien talk about Galadriel wearing armor, or is that just PJ?

[Alcarin]

As I remember gandalf dies. And being powerful doesn't make one immortal. Lets not forget who wielded Nenya and lays waste to Dol Guldur. I don't remember, does Tolkien talk about Galadriel wearing armor, or is that just PJ?

The White Council laid waste to Dol Guldur... not 1 person.... it was an ARMY!

Remember.... Saruman gave green light for assembling ARMY to assault Dol Guldur.... Galadriel did not ride in alone and destroyed everything there....

[Lord Vladivus]

As I remember gandalf dies. And being powerful doesn't make one immortal. Lets not forget who wielded Nenya and lays waste to Dol Guldur. I don't remember, does Tolkien talk about Galadriel wearing armor, or is that just PJ?

Gandalf is immortal. He's one of the spirits that existed before, and helped with, the creation of Arda (the place where Middle Earth is), and is a Maia, the same as Sauron was. Gandalf also wields one of the Three Rings, gifted to him by Cirdan of the Grey Havens. He's not allowed to directly confront Sauron with his power (since the arrest of Morgoth and the Fall of Numenor, Valinor doesn't directly interfere with the affairs of Arda). Neither does Gandalf technically die, he returns to the Halls of Mandos in Valinor, having exhausted his physical body, and is sent back by the Valar with a new body and the allowance to use more power. Galadriel is just an elf, admittedly pretty powerful. I hope she doesn't wear armour, I hope she's done like her "Dark Lady" aspect in LOTR. She never wears armour (at least it's not mentioned, I suppose she could have at some point in the First Age).

[Darth Punk]

I see, must be why Tolkien wrote

The elves, led by Thranduil of Mirkwood and Galadriel of Lorien led an assault on Dol Guldur and Galadriel herself threw down its walls, and laid its pits bare.

[legofreak86]

Darthpunk you do realise that is a quote taken from the forum where huw posted that passage. It was him who was saying it was vague not me I was just pasting the quote from the page. Also no one ever said what set Smaug was in before huw posted that passage. Maybe he will be in both. Things are seldom complete and final at london toy fair. I mean why waste a possible new printed or new mould in just one set. Seems more like Lego to reuse it for others. Think how many times moulds introduced in LOTR/Hobbit have been used in other themes and sets. I think there is a slight possibility Smaug will be in both.

Edited January 24, 2014 by legofreak86

[Alcarin]

I see, must be why Tolkien wrote

The elves, led by Thranduil of Mirkwood and Galadriel of Lorien led an assault on Dol Guldur and Galadriel herself threw down its walls, and laid its pits bare.

That is not an event from Hobbit time.... just saying.

[Darth Punk]

Gandalf is immortal. He's one of the spirits that existed before, and helped with, the creation of Arda (the place where Middle Earth is), and is a Maia, the same as Sauron was. Gandalf also wields one of the Three Rings, gifted to him by Cirdan of the Grey Havens. He's not allowed to directly confront Sauron with his power (since the arrest of Morgoth and the Fall of Numenor, Valinor doesn't directly interfere with the affairs of Arda). Neither does Gandalf technically die, he returns to the Halls of Mandos in Valinor, having exhausted his physical body, and is sent back by the Valar with a new body and the allowance to use more power. Galadriel is just an elf, admittedly pretty powerful. I hope she doesn't wear armour, I hope she's done like her "Dark Lady" aspect in LOTR. She never wears armour (at least it's not mentioned, I suppose she could have at some point in the First Age).

I do see what you are saying about,Gandalf. My Valinor knowledge is lacking. But I will say this obviously there are limits to Gandalf's powers. And perhaps he is more powerful but its hard to judge if doesn't actually use those powers. Also it was my understanding that Nenya, the main source of Galadriel's power was quite great. I guess it could just be the way Tolkien talks about her due to his great fondness of her that makes her seem more powerful than she actually is.

[Brickadiergerard]

I see, must be why Tolkien wrote

The elves, led by Thranduil of Mirkwood and Galadriel of Lorien led an assault on Dol Guldur and Galadriel herself threw down its walls, and laid its pits bare.

A bit like George :Lucas, Tolkien liked to repeat some storylines. So the White Council drove Sauron out of Dol Guldur and he fled to Mordor, where he began to assert his power over the next 80 years or so until the War of the Ring kicked off, repopulating Mordor and making Southern Mirkwood dark and horrible again; while Gondor and Rohan went head to head with Mordor down south, the elves of Lorien and Mirkwood cleansed Southern Mirkwood and the latter threw down Dol Guldur's walls, and laid its pits bare. The quote I have in Appendix B is actually ""Celeborn came forth and led the host of Lorien over Anduin in many boats. They took Dol Guldur, and Galadriel threw down its walls and laid bare its pits, and the forest was cleansed."

I would've loved to see that in a cut scene in LOTR, and I hope that PJ will mix it up a bit when he does the attack on Dol Guldur in TABA, because an amphibious Elven landing followed by an assault on a ruined evil fortress is just too fantastic to miss.

But I do hope the Galadriel minifig that we get is one in robes that can be used in multiple scenes rather than in armour that can't.

Edited January 24, 2014 by Brickadiergerard

[Darth Punk]

A bit like George :Lucas, Tolkien liked to repeat some storylines. So the White Council drove Sauron out of Dol Guldur and he fled to Mordor, where he began to assert his power over the next 80 years or so until the War of the Ring kicked off, repopulating Mordor and making Southern Mirkwood dark and horrible again; while Gondor and Rohan went head to head with Mordor down south, the elves of Lorien and Mirkwood cleansed Southern Mirkwood and the latter threw down Dol Guldur's walls, and laid its pits bare. The quote I have in Appendix B is actually ""Celeborn came forth and led the host of Lorien over Anduin in many boats. They took Dol Guldur, and Galadriel threw down its walls and laid bare its pits, and the forest was cleansed."

I would've loved to see that in a cut scene in LOTR, and I hope that PJ will mix it up a bit when he does the attack on Dol Guldur in TABA, because an amphibious Elven landing followed by an assault on a ruined evil fortress is just too fantastic to miss.

But I do hope the Galadriel minifig that we get is one in robes that can be used in multiple scenes rather than in armour that can't.

Ah ha. I see my confusion. A thousand apologies to all.

Darthpunk you do realise that is a quote taken from the forum where huw posted that passage. It was him who was saying it was vague not me I was just pasting the quote from the page. Also no one ever said what set Smaug was in before huw posted that passage. Maybe he will be in both. Things are seldom complete and final at london toy fair. I mean why waste a possible new printed or new mould in just one set. Seems more like Lego to reuse it for others. Think how many times moulds introduced in LOTR/Hobbit have been used in other themes and sets. I think there is a slight possibility Smaug will be in both.

I do yes, sorry if that was not clear. As for Smaug I may have read that elsewhere.

[azog15]

What's the likelihood that we won't get a Bolg minifig?

[deskp]

What's the likelihood that we won't get a Bolg minifig?

50/50 chanse of lego Bolg, but he and Dain is jsut about the only new named big characther lego hasn't made. And they do like making new ones.

[Deathleech]

No foggiest idea what the Lake-Town set is about if it doesn't have Smaug, though. Might it be a DOS set like Erebor with Legolas, Bolg, Bain etc.? The reported would likely have spotted those characters, though... We'll see.

I would guess that is exactly what Lake-town will have in terms of minifigures. If Bolg isn't in the Erebor set he has to be somewhere. What better place than Lake-town if it doesn't include Smaug? They need to give kids some conflict there to help sell the set. It was reported Bain was in the LT set, but most the other figs were place holders so they probably wouldn't of known who was suppose to be Bolg even if he was there.

Yes that list is not only vague, it also contradicts what others have said. We have heard there are three lake town buildings with Smaug, a bell tower with Smaug and lastly the lonely mountain with Smaug. W

Actually they said there were three Lake-town buildings but there was NO mention of Smaug in the set whatsoever. Brickfanatics, where the info is from, doesn't specifically state Smaug is in any set. The fact the set seems to depict the end of DoS with the gold and carts and such leads me to further believe the set is strictly DoS based and will be the one with Smaug. Here is what Brickfanatics said (where you are presumably getting the bit about 3 LT buildings and such):

"LotR/Hobbit There will be DLC for the game when the third movie comes out. There will be a Smaug similar-sized to the Castle dragon.The Witch King minifig glows in the dark. The Elrond fig looks like the polybag figure. The bargeman’s son comes in one of the sets (3 buildings, an addon to the Laketown Chase)"

The only things that seem weird atm are why would Lego base 2 sets (Erebor and Lake-town) on DoS scenes when this is a TABA wave? Also no new characters in Erebor? I mean I could see it, they have several dwarves all with new prints who are out of production from wave 1 to help sell the set. The biggest selling point would obviously be Smaug too. Maybe Lego doesn't feel like they need to include any other new unique characters? But why have so much based off DoS?

[Darth Punk]

I would guess that is exactly what Lake-town will have in terms of minifigures. If Bolg isn't in the Erebor set he has to be somewhere. What better place than Lake-town if it doesn't include Smaug? They need to give kids some conflict there to help sell the set. It was reported Bain was in the LT set, but most the other figs were place holders so they probably wouldn't of known who was suppose to be Bolg even if he was there.

Actually they said there were three Lake-town buildings but there was NO mention of Smaug in the set whatsoever. Brickfanatics, where the info is from, doesn't specifically state Smaug is in any set. The fact the set seems to depict the end of DoS with the gold and carts and such leads me to further believe the set is strictly DoS based and will be the one with Smaug. Here is what Brickfanatics said (where you are presumably getting the bit about 3 LT buildings and such):

"LotR/Hobbit There will be DLC for the game when the third movie comes out. There will be a Smaug similar-sized to the Castle dragon.The Witch King minifig glows in the dark. The Elrond fig looks like the polybag figure. The bargeman’s son comes in one of the sets (3 buildings, an addon to the Laketown Chase)"

The only things that seem weird atm are why would Lego base 2 sets (Erebor and Lake-town) on DoS scenes when this is a TABA wave? Also no new characters in Erebor? I mean I could see it, they have several dwarves all with new prints who are out of production from wave 1 to help sell the set. The biggest selling point would obviously be Smaug too. Maybe Lego doesn't feel like they need to include any other new unique characters? But why have so much based off DoS?

Yeah it might have been a part of,another discussion. All I know is my head hurts keeping track,of it all. I think I'm content to wait for some pics next week.

[Infernum]

I couldn't imagine the Laketown set not coming with Smaug, there'd be nothing new, other than a character or two. . The Erebor could be awesome, as long as it's substantial enough to have play features AND be recognizable.

2000th post!

Edited January 24, 2014 by Infernum

[Gryphon Ink]

Just out of curiosity, has there been confirmation that Smaug is molded and not brick-built? It seems more likely to me that he will be brick-built. I mean, it's Lego, not action figures.

[just2good]

Just out of curiosity, has there been confirmation that Smaug is molded and not brick-built? It seems more likely to me that he will be brick-built. I mean, it's Lego, not action figures.

Nothing has been confirmed, besides the fact that he's coming in an upcoming set. According to many reports, the Smaug shown at the British Toy Fair was just the Castle dragon as a stand in.

[Faefrost]

I would guess that is exactly what Lake-town will have in terms of minifigures. If Bolg isn't in the Erebor set he has to be somewhere. What better place than Lake-town if it doesn't include Smaug?

The only things that seem weird atm are why would Lego base 2 sets (Erebor and Lake-town) on DoS scenes when this is a TABA wave? Also no new characters in Erebor? I mean I could see it, they have several dwarves all with new prints who are out of production from wave 1 to help sell the set. The biggest selling point would obviously be Smaug too. Maybe Lego doesn't feel like they need to include any other new unique characters? But why have so much based off DoS?

I honestly don't think we will see Bolg. I think his on screen design changed too late in the process. Unless they decide to use Azog's head re colored with some radical printing? After all the grief with Yazneg they would probably just give as an extra regular Orc instead. Maybe at best we might see a bearded "Orc Champion" if the old Bolg design made it through the process to becoming a new mold.

As for the Dwarves? I think the only ones of Thorin's company that we will see in new armored prints will be Thorin and Fili and Kili. Maybe, just maybe Bofur. But not all 13. The problem is the new molds they all have. The beards. Those beards define the characters. They aren't going to do a whole round of expensive new tooling to armor up the company. And what would be the point of updated printing for most of them? The beards cover it for the most part. You could use Arwens torso on Bifur or Gloin and never know it. Whereas Thorin, Fili and Kili have printed beards and hairpieces that seem specifically designed for torso accessories. Bofur too if you give him a helmet instead of a hat. Plus if you think about it Thorin, and his nephews are the ones that stand out as the traditional warriors. The ones you expect to see in armor. Ori not so much. (We know Ori wasn't wearing any when he died.)

[Infernum]

Nothing has been confirmed, besides the fact that he's coming in an upcoming set. According to many reports, the Smaug shown at the British Toy Fair was just the Castle dragon as a stand in.

Oh? I thought the Smaug was the only finalized component, I was really wrong. I guess he could be brick-built then, but I wouldn't count on it.