LEGO Ideas Discussion

[x105Black]

5 hours ago, Robert8 said:

... it will be the next project to be rejected in the next review

Agreed.

[BrickJagger]

On October 6, 2016 at 4:40 PM, Robert8 said:

It seems the Fishing Shop has already a sequel: the Dive Shop

 

 

 

This guy just loves the sea too much 

I mean, if it works, it works, no? 

 

6 hours ago, Robert8 said:

"Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. "The Bus" LEGO Set" from Savath_Bunny, achieved 10000 supporters today and it will be the next project to be rejected in the next review

 

[dulsi]

On 10/9/2016 at 1:11 AM, Taiphun said:

Not sure if it's already been asked, but with all the submission ideas and the official releases, has anyone tried replicating the submitted models to compare with the Lego release?

I'm particularly interested in the Exo-Suit and the Caterham..  

I thought rebrickable had a comparison of pieces used in an official ideas set vs. the fan ideas model. However, I don't remember which set it was and can't find it on the site. For the Exo-Suit, I've seen one person's complaint that the original model fell apart easily and that he was pleased that the official set was sturdy.

[XAxles]

I dunno, I think the AoS set will make it. At least, it will lead to a UCS Helicarrier moment, or a Minifigure series.

[LEGODalekbuster523]

On 10/10/2016 at 8:20 PM, Robert8 said:

"Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. "The Bus" LEGO Set" from Savath_Bunny, achieved 10000 supporters today and it will be the next project to be rejected in the next review

I'm so glad this project has reached 10,000 supporters and I certainly hope it isn't rejected. I'd happy pay between £80-£100 for that set and even if they deem it too big, surely they could reduce it in size?

[Exetrius]

 "The Bus"... As a playset, it looks fun, but I honestly don't see the appeal as a display set. 

[Robert8]

5 hours ago, LEGODalekbuster523 said:

I'm so glad this project has reached 10,000 supporters and I certainly hope it isn't rejected. I'd happy pay between £80-£100 for that set and even if they deem it too big, surely they could reduce it in size?

I don't see how they can reduce the size enough to make it acceptable for LEGO Ideas standards. That thing is huge. Is as big as a D2C. It looks even bigger than Simpsons House or the Ghostbusters Headquarters. And if they downsize it that much, the minifigures would be out of proportion. The only way they could make it work would be replacing minifigures with microfigures, like the Helicarrier. 

Of course, the set has less chances of being approved because LEGO already has the Marvel license

And also, this show has been around for like 3 years now, right? And LEGO hasn't shown interest on producing sets based on them.

Overall, this set has very little chances of making it. 

 

[x105Black]

I think it's a good MOC, but I'm not sure that translates too well into a profitable set.

[Lego Otaku]

On 10/6/2016 at 3:35 PM, BrickHat said:

Yeah, neither do I, I was so sad. I watched the video to the end hoping they would say they were reconsidering it. Hopefully the reason they rejected it is because they plan to release a gingerbread house as part of the Winter Village line of sets sometime in the future. Otherwise, that's just sad...

So sad it didn't make the cut. Can anyone explain how the tasty looking roof was done? Maybe a quick LDD file?

[LEGODalekbuster523]

16 hours ago, Robert8 said:

I don't see how they can reduce the size enough to make it acceptable for LEGO Ideas standards. That thing is huge. Is as big as a D2C. It looks even bigger than Simpsons House or the Ghostbusters Headquarters. And if they downsize it that much, the minifigures would be out of proportion.

 

Who cares about minifigures being out of proportion? Just include a buildable stand for them.

Of course, the set has less chances of being approved because LEGO already has the Marvel license

But does the Marvel license include Agents of SHIELD or is AoS a separate license? Besides, LEGO do accept sets based on existing licenses so clearly it isn't impossible for a set based on an existing license to be approved.

And also, this show has been around for like 3 years now, right? And LEGO hasn't shown interest on producing sets based on them.

But hasn't the show become more popular now in America with the introduction of Ghost Rider?

 

[legonerd54321]

https://ideas.lego.com/projects/119603

I've completely forgotten about this idea, and I'd totally love to see it reach 10k votes.

[Tariq j]

5 hours ago, LEGODalekbuster523 said:

Who cares about minifigures being out of proportion? Just include a buildable stand for them.

 

 

But does the Marvel license include Agents of SHIELD or is AoS a separate license? Besides, LEGO do accept sets based on existing licenses so clearly it isn't impossible for a set based on an existing license to be approved.

 

 

But hasn't the show become more popular now in America with the introduction of Ghost Rider?

 

Well, I think one of the problems with Ideas is, it's very easy to just say "includes this, include that, make this smaller, add more mini figures, take away X, Y and Z and put in A, B and C instead" But to execute it may be harder. 

[LEGODalekbuster523]

If I was good at designing LEGO sets, I would be submitting a Crystal Maze Crystal Dome set to LEGO Ideas right now. I think this year is the right time for such a set to be commissioned given how it just made a triumphant return for Stand Up To Cancer.

[Exetrius]

3 hours ago, Tariq j said:

Well, I think one of the problems with Ideas is, it's very easy to just say "includes this, include that, make this smaller, add more mini figures, take away X, Y and Z and put in A, B and C instead" But to execute it may be harder. 

In all seriousness, this is exactly why a project should be good in the first place. 

[Robert8]

9 hours ago, LEGODalekbuster523 said:

Who cares about minifigures being out of proportion?

 

Mmmmm...... The LEGO Group?

Playability is a very important factor when designing a set. If the minifigures are out of proportion, You can't play with a set if the minifigures are gigantic inside it. 

That's is exactly why they included microfigures in the Helicarrier.

So, yeah, who cares? Well, LEGO does. 

[1980-Something-Space-Guy]

2 hours ago, Robert8 said:

Mmmmm...... The LEGO Group?

Playability is a very important factor when designing a set. If the minifigures are out of proportion, You can't play with a set if the minifigures are gigantic inside it. 

That's is exactly why they included microfigures in the Helicarrier.

So, yeah, who cares? Well, LEGO does. 

Exactly my thoughts.

[x105Black]

On 10/16/2016 at 5:37 PM, LEGODalekbuster523 said:

If I was good at designing LEGO sets, I would be submitting a Crystal Maze Crystal Dome set to LEGO Ideas right now. I think this year is the right time for such a set to be commissioned given how it just made a triumphant return for Stand Up To Cancer.

I had to look that up, as I had never heard of Crystal Maze, Crystal Dome, or Stand Up To Cancer.

It might make a good set, but it's basically a large glass geodesic dome, and I would think the maze itself would be too big to be viable.

[LEGODalekbuster523]

8 hours ago, x105Black said:

I had to look that up, as I had never heard of Crystal Maze, Crystal Dome, or Stand Up To Cancer.

It might make a good set, but it's basically a large glass geodesic dome, and I would think the maze itself would be too big to be viable.

You've never heard of The Crystal Maze? 

 

The show has a massive geek following!

[Sarah]

8 hours ago, LEGODalekbuster523 said:

You've never heard of The Crystal Maze? 

 

The show has a massive geek following!

I consider myself a geek and was not even aware Crystal Maze was a TV Show.

 

[LEGODalekbuster523]

30 minutes ago, Sarah said:

I consider myself a geek and was not even aware Crystal Maze was a TV Show.

 

Do you not have any repeats of it in America?

[Faefrost]

On 10/6/2016 at 10:50 AM, Blondie-Wan said:

 

Well, that just goes to show what we know. I thought the Gingerbread House was easily the likeliest project from the batch, and the Fossil Museum and Johnny 5 were the next likeliest, but not one of those three made it. Yet the Old Fishing Store, a project I found absolutely beautiful but probably just too big, was the one and only project chosen. I must say I'm a bit disappointed other (additional) projects didn't make it, but the Old Fishing Store making it is a delightful shock.

My best guess for the Gingerbread House is they already have something in development. As a subject it has probably already been claimed by the Creator Expert Group for a seasonal set. 

This (speculatively) dances a bit around at least two other concepts that we rarely talk or think about. Pre-existing art it design work and how Ideas fits into corporate politics and design groups inside of LEGO. 

The first and often hardest for we out here in consumer land to understand is the concept of pre-existing work product, and how an Ideas set proposal may conflict with it. The most common misconception is that in order for an IP or design conflict to occur it must involve a released LEGO set. Nothing could be farther from the truth. If LEGO has begun any level of internal design work a potential conflict may occur. It need not be anything shown or sold to the public. If they have internal documentation of a potential project it may cause a conflict. So if they designed a Gingerbread House as a possible Winter Village set one year, but passed over it in favor of something else. The IP is still locked internally. 

Which brings us to the second part of the review/approval process that likely has to happen. Ideas is bottom of the pecking order internally at LEGO. In order to approve a project to become a set Ideas probably needs sign off from the various other design teams. In short the fully internal groups likely have, to varying degrees, veto power over Ideas sets. They can state a project is too close to something they have in development, and it's dead. We absolutely know this is the case with pre-existing licenses. Those are easy to spot. But there is probably some similar things going on with LEGO internal designs and IP. So an Ideas "Fire Truck" might be veto'd by the City design group if it is too close to a set they have in development. 

Just a reminder, this stuff is often far more complex than the typical outside observer may realize. 

[Lyichir]

20 hours ago, LEGODalekbuster523 said:

Do you not have any repeats of it in America?

Not just no repeats—I can't find any evidence that it's EVER been aired in America. I don't believe America tends to get much in the way of foreign game shows (save for shows that are recreated for American audiences), with channels like Game Show Network that specialize in game shows mostly airing American shows, and channels like BBC America that specialize in British TV focusing on comedies or dramas rather than game shows or reality TV.

[LEGODalekbuster523]

3 hours ago, Lyichir said:

Not just no repeats—I can't find any evidence that it's EVER been aired in America. I don't believe America tends to get much in the way of foreign game shows (save for shows that are recreated for American audiences), with channels like Game Show Network that specialize in game shows mostly airing American shows, and channels like BBC America that specialize in British TV focusing on comedies or dramas rather than game shows or reality TV.

I wouldn't be surprised if they air The Crystal Maze over there eventually. There's something special about it compared to other game shows.

[Lyichir]

4 hours ago, LEGODalekbuster523 said:

I wouldn't be surprised if they air The Crystal Maze over there eventually. There's something special about it compared to other game shows.

...Maybe. Again, that pretty much never happens over here—U.S. networks are not hurting for original content, and as such only niche channels really air foreign programs at all. If anything, some American network might decide to adapt it for American audiences with a new American version, similar to what they did with "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire".

[Bob De Quatre]

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