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[irispen]

Will the new rebel stormtrooper bb be ok with my ot collection?

lets say there are no rebels show, and you are not that familiar with starwars, TLG has 2 design of of stormtroopers, asking which is better or more accurate to the movie version...

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Edited October 8, 2014 by irispen

[lomis]

Will the new rebel stormtrooper bb be ok with my ot collection?

lets say there are no rebels show, and you are not that familiar with starwars, TLG has 2 design of of stormtroopers, asking which is better or more accurate to the movie version...

Personally, I like both.

It looks like the printing position on the bridge of the nose is more accurate for the stormtroopers shipping with 75055: Imperial Star Destroyer and 75060: Slave I.

But the blue air intakes on the Rebels version seem to make more sense as I think they were that way in the original movie helmets (after looking through Google images).

As far as the body printing - I don't have a preference, but like that the leg printing doesn't look like it's cut off mid-print on the right leg on the Rebels version.

Having said that, I just wish there was a single version.

The constant changing of stormtroopers was irritating enough.

But now having two versions at the same time?

It's a bit annoying.

[Robianco]

I must admit the more I look at the Rebels Stormtrooper the less it bothers me. I still think once this wave is out and you can look at 8 or so of them together I think they'll look fine.

[ChiefPie]

Yeah I'm starting it like the rebels now also..

[Clone 01354 Productions]

The ONLY thing that bothers me about the Rebels Stormie now is the torso: it looks incredibly angled on the chest, and the belt is too smooth.

[The-Nexu]

I really don't like the battle packs in recent years. Most of them have been for factions that no one really cairs about. It is the same for 2015. 1 of them has troops that never appeared in the movie, one of them has soldiers that appeared for one part of one level in a vidio game, one has senit commandos witch no one really needs in large quontities and the only good one is the storm trooper one witch has sad stormtroopers. Everyone was saying they would buy maybe 2 or 3 of all the battle packs accept for the storm trooper witch they would buy loads of if it had regular stormies. This suggests to me that people are more interested in normal troops.

So, does anyone elce feel next years battle packs are a letdown because of the figures that they allow you to army build?

[Navy Trooper Fenson]

Man, I don´t really know what to think of these Battlepacks. It´s good that we got an additional slot so that we have 4 BPs each year now but it is perpetrating the problem I already explained, that the BPs should cover the most important and named armies first and get more specific as time goes on. Instead we now have 2 BPs of no worth thanks to LEGO going the Hasbro route and making up their own clone trooper color combinations when there are already at least 100 to choose from. Ah no, I forgot, the Shadow Trooper BP is apparently kinda based on The Force Unleashed thanks to the black Royal Guards (even though in the game they had armor and these ones have robes) and the Shadow Troopers. The latter aren´t as bad I thought though, at least we get them in dark grey or stone grey which is a new color. At first I thought they would just use the clors of the 2008 Shadow Troopers. I kinda appreciate the effort of including TFU related things which I really didn´t expect since it was made non-canon, Lego didn´t care to make sets when it was actually relevant and only I and some other guy like TFU.

The Geonosis BP is definitely the worst BP Lego has done to date. Not only did they have to choose Airborne and Phase 2 helmets when there already were Geonosis camo clones shown in TCW with ARF and Phase 1 helmets which could have been forgiven had the figure parts at least have been of use like how the Kashyyyk Phase 2 clones make for good modern US soldiers but nobody has nougat/orange camo, not even the Street Fighter movie. I wonder if they planned on doing Phase 1 and ARFs but Disney prevented them from it because it would be TCW merchandise, but looking at the Senate Commandos I doubt that.

The Stormtrooper BP is as expected, finally a good and nice vehicle design and partspack but made completely useless because of yet another unwanted redesign. I am still thinking about buying one for the novelty of the set and figure designs but Star Wars was never known for having good price/piece ratios and seeing how Lego puts this same Stormie variant in many other Rebels sets it isn´t really necessary.

That leaves us with the Senate Commando BP which ironically was at first thought to be cancelled even though it´s the best thing Lego has done since the Lucas era. Vehicle is a great partspack, it´s easy to get a nice and big troop and the soldiers aren´t as unnecessary to have in doubles like Royal guards but still not necessary to have in quantities of hundreds like most clone troopers, the fig was very rare because of the release in only 2 sets so it´s a good idea and the new release fixes the design by changing it from cartoon designs to Life action designs. I am going to get 3.

[duboismerci]

I fear the Stormtrooper BP will be price at 14.99$ like the battle of Saleucami beacause of the piece count...

[Clone 01354 Productions]

^^That is some tiny font! But anyway, I think that people just need to chill out about BPs. If we got generic troops every year, they would CHANGE every year. It would be harder to build up a uniform army than it is now.

The problem is that we get variants that NO ONE CARES about: Geonosis Troops? Seriously?

If Lego released a 501st BP, I would buy them like crazy. Same with Snow Troopers, Hoth Troopers, Endor Troopers, Scout Troopers, Super Battle Droids, etc. That is because these are popular variants that people love.

[Flieger]

The problem is that we get variants that NO ONE CARES about: Geonosis Troops? Seriously?

I assume the Kashyyyk BP sells well, so Lego may think camouflaged clones are what people want. (Also, they could be valuable for moccers, I guess, since the bodies can be used for modern soldiers).

Of course, I would have preferred troopers who were actually on screen.

[Tariq j]

The problem is that we get variants that NO ONE CARES.

This is my exact problem as well. Lego releases fantastic Minifigures like the OT Stormtrooper and 501st Trooper and then make no Battle Packs on them.

Still, I would like to collect the Rebels Stormtroopers.

[Venkefedo]

If Lego did some full-on regular BPs of movie troops, we'd probably be a lot happier. I loved the Death Watch BP since it was 4 identical Mandos... great for army-building! A set like that with the 501st troopers from the AT-RT and Z-95 sets? Gold. I didn't go crazy on the Hoth BPs since the Rebels had Zev in there for no reason, while the Imps had an AT-AT Driver and an AT-AT Commander (probably meant to complement an AT-AT set). The RFT and Imp Drop Ship sets were closest to perfect as far as single-faction OT BPs go, if you didn't mind the Shadow Stormie.

The recent switch to single-faction again is nice... not all the "battle in a box" sets were bad, like the Old Republic one or the Endor one, but with these it just feels nicer. If there is some oddball officer or "shouldn't be too many of these" in a box, it's only one out of 4, instead of HALF the faction of the mixed-faction packs. My main issue with the Shadow Trooper pack is the same as one of my issues with the DST pack: I don't want or need that many guards! (I don't want/need all that many Death Star Gunners, either, but they can be put to use manning consoles & cannons anywhere; Royal Guards, like Shadow Guards, should be rather limited in number... but Shadow Stormies can be built up into dozens easily for a nice company of troops)

At least with the Inquisitor around, the Shadow Guards can be repurposed as his Force-trained troops... I'm not sure of their TFU backstory, but for my Rebels-inspired idea they'd brainwashed to be utterly loyal to the Empire; they'd be more dangerous than regular troops or even regular Royal Guards due to their powers and saber-staves, but due to their mental tampering wouldn't be as big a threat as the Inquisitor, Vader, or the Emperor. Perhaps they're other younglings & padawans, like Kanan, only rounded up like they tried to do with the babies in TCW and corrupted into Imperial service...

...okay, bring those sets on, I wanna get a bunch of Shadow Trooper BPs

[Clone 01354 Productions]

Watch, this is Lego's evil scheme:

1) Release amazing OT Stormie in expensive sets; make hideous Rebel Stormies incredibly cheap.

2) Due to cheap prices, people will accept the Rebel Stormie and buy large quantities of them to build their army.

3) The next year, release the amazing OT Stormies in an affordable BP.

4) Everyone buys large quantities of these Stormies too, and double the profit is made.

And, of course:

5) Release even better Stormie in expensive set. Repeat cycle.

[The-Nexu]

I miss the times when lego would do 2 battle packs that were compatible with each other. With the 2015 battle packs you can army build useless troops but not make a battle with them. There is nothing for the geonosis troopers to fight, no threat for the senit commandos to defend the senit against, no whatever the shadow guards and dark troopers battled to battle and no rebel skum for the storm troopers to blast to bits. I think it takes away a bit of the play features that the old ones had. I may not be 10 but you cant deny its fun to swoosh round a speeder making pew pew noises to destroy the enimy ship, speeder, walker.. I bet you've all done it at some point. Even if you don't want to make battles while making pew pew noises it's always good to have an enimy while making a battle scene.

[Jacob Nion]

Watch, this is Lego's evil scheme:

1) Release amazing OT Stormie in expensive sets; make hideous Rebel Stormies incredibly cheap.

2) Due to cheap prices, people will accept the Rebel Stormie and buy large quantities of them to build their army.

3) The next year, release the amazing OT Stormies in an affordable BP.

4) Everyone buys large quantities of these Stormies too, and double the profit is made.

And, of course:

5) Release even better Stormie in expensive set. Repeat cycle.

That's exactly my anxiety. But who could say if there will be live action stormie packs in the future. I don't believe that they will release a pack of ot sormies and Episode VII stormies at the same time next year.

[Venkefedo]

I miss the times when lego would do 2 battle packs that were compatible with each other. With the 2015 battle packs you can army build useless troops but not make a battle with them. There is nothing for the geonosis troopers to fight, no threat for the senit commandos to defend the senit against, no whatever the shadow guards and dark troopers battled to battle and no rebel skum for the storm troopers to blast to bits. I think it takes away a bit of the play features that the old ones had. I may not be 10 but you cant deny its fun to swoosh round a speeder making pew pew noises to destroy the enimy ship, speeder, walker.. I bet you've all done it at some point. Even if you don't want to make battles while making pew pew noises it's always good to have an enimy while making a battle scene.

TPM or not, between the MTT and the new droid transport there are a LOT of Battle Droids available, which can be sent against the Geonosis BP clones and Senate Commandos. Battle Droids don't need to be orange to be dropped on Geonosis for battle.

Despite the movie-style armor of the Shadow Troopers, you can still send them & the Guards against the heroes in the Rebels sets; same with the ITT Stormies. Kanan, Ezra, Sabine, and the Wookiees are their enemies for this wave. There aren't any Rebel troops for the ITT Stormies to fight, anyway, since the Rebel Alliance isn't really a 'thing' yet... they've only got scattered, unorganized resistance to combat, small groups like the Ghost crew or rioting slaves or civilians. As REBELS goes on, we may see more organized groups be encountered... we may see some of the behind-the-scenes work Bail (and Leia) are doing to prepare an armed resistance... but right now, we know too little. The ITT is just so kids & AFOLs can have more Rebels-style Stormies for Kanan to shoot & Zeb to knock around.

[The-Nexu]

I don't mean that there arn't enimies to fight, just not rellivent ones. For the battle droids your going to have 12 battle droids against a walker. That's verry one sided. What I meen is you cant just get two sets of symillar sizes that you can create a battle with. My favret thing about the battle packs was that you could create battles from the movies. They are called battle packs, after all. Although, the Senit Commandos would go very well with the asasson droid set from a while back.

[scorchfire]

The problem is that we get variants that NO ONE CARES about: Geonosis Troops? Seriously?

If Lego released a 501st BP, I would buy them like crazy. Same with Snow Troopers, Hoth Troopers, Endor Troopers, Scout Troopers, Super Battle Droids, etc. That is because these are popular variants that people love.

Most of the mentioned are already done one way or another. I doubt battlepacks are meant to be cyclical in nature as in every other year we get droid vs clones/imp vs rebels if so we would have never gotten the mando pack or sith troops. Yes, LEGO needs to up their game when it comes to battlepacks, but let's not forget that they are constraint to whatever the license provider says is OK to produce. I was aware that "no more the clone wars toys" was in act to every license holder such as Hasbro, kenner and LEGO itself, so there it goes 501st legion and phase II commander Cody minifig, at least for a while, maybe they had plans for them maybe not, but whatever they can do its limited and must be approved first by the license owner.

[AFOLguy1970]

Watch, this is Lego's evil scheme:

1) Release amazing OT Stormie in expensive sets; make hideous Rebel Stormies incredibly cheap.

2) Due to cheap prices, people will accept the Rebel Stormie and buy large quantities of them to build their army.

3) The next year, release the amazing OT Stormies in an affordable BP.

4) Everyone buys large quantities of these Stormies too, and double the profit is made.

And, of course:

5) Release even better Stormie in expensive set. Repeat cycle.

If Lego could do #3, all will be forgiven.

[Fuppylodders]

Lego: Let your imagination flow.

They're giving us such decent minifigs for army building, sure, some of the builds might not be THAT great... but essentially, they're all about the minifigs. Lego cater to children mostly. If they specialised their selection of BPs to a few scenes, they wouldn't cover the wider picture. It would take twice as long to, and they wouldn't be as free to venture into the unknown.

While it is nice for the few that can afford to buy bucketloads of BPs of the same (Im talking to those that literally buy bucket loads), the average child will probably get a few of one BP, if not, just 1 version. Children use their imagination when playing more so than afols and tfols, who prefer to make mocs for dioramas and displays. Children play. Do children really care what bad guys their good guys are fighting?

Not really, just that good v bad= fun. When I was younger, heck, I used to imagine most of my good guys would turn bad, so it didn't matter what I had.

Old stormies have been done. Hoth troopers have been done.

TLG are pushing the boat out with a complete wider variety of minifigs for BPs.

Can't people just enjoy the fact theyre doing something completely different for a change rather than just rehashing the same old minifigs? (except the stormies, I believe they have done extremely well as most people I think will eventually be happy to accept them as old stormies while the change in print makes them relevant to the new era for children to enjoy at this time.)

TPM or not, between the MTT and the new droid transport there are a LOT of Battle Droids available, which can be sent against the Geonosis BP clones and Senate Commandos. Battle Droids don't need to be orange to be dropped on Geonosis for battle.

Despite the movie-style armor of the Shadow Troopers, you can still send them & the Guards against the heroes in the Rebels sets; same with the ITT Stormies. Kanan, Ezra, Sabine, and the Wookiees are their enemies for this wave....

^^^^Very much this.

Edited October 8, 2014 by Fuppylodders

[Peasantseverywhere]

^^ That is exactly what I've been thinking all along

[Venkefedo]

The change in print was unnecessary, tho... the ISD/Slave I stormie is also fairly new, and quite different from the one BP full of Stormies that Lego made several years ago (even different than the Endor BP just a couple years ago due to leg print at least). The ISD/Slave I stormie is plenty 'relevant' to the new era, because the new era of Rebels is, for all intents & purposes, the OT era. The trooper that needs an update the most is the Scout Trooper, using the same old helmet from 15 years ago (while Kashyyyk Troopers got a shiny new helmet mold that might--I haven't actually checked--look decent as an OT Scout with proper visor printing rather than the tiny high-up lenses of the Kashyyyk & preliminary Geonosis versions).

[AFOLguy1970]

Old stormies have been done. Hoth troopers have been done.

TLG are pushing the boat out with a complete wider variety of minifigs for BPs.

Can't people just enjoy the fact theyre doing something completely different for a change rather than just rehashing the same old minifigs? (except the stormies, I believe they have done extremely well as most people I think will eventually be happy to accept them as old stormies while the change in print makes them relevant to the new era for children to enjoy at this time

What about the people (kids and adults alike) who are either just now getting old enough to appreciate Star Wars or who have recently come out of a dark age? I am scrambling to save money to get the Millennium Falcon, and maybe a Sandcrawler or a Death Star before they get discontinued. They are among the most iconic vehicles/scenes in the movies. Don't get me wrong, I am all for new things. Apart from the Rebels stormdroopers, many of the sets look good. Yet, it would be great to have a version of classic X-wing, MF, TIE fighter, etc. available for purchase currently or in the not too far future. If Lego went down the road of not redoing a ship or scene because it has already been done, I would have no chance of getting a classic vehicle or scene at a reasonable price. Eventually, the OT sets would be things like Aunt Beru's kitchen, BoShek's starship, a snaggletooth battle pack, space slug, and a UCS Yavin IV temple/ceremony room.

[ChiefPie]

Personally I like the new made up clones and glad they made those FU stormies and guards for variety.

[Clone 01354 Productions]

To give you an idea of how messed up the BP situation is: seagulls are STILL covered in oil! I'm sorry, but that was all I think of when we keep saying BP.

But seriously now: I have been collecting Star Wars since 2011. In that time, i have accumulated five Kashyyyk Troopers, 4 Utapau troops, three Sandtroopers, 4 ARF troopers, two Bomb Squad clones, three Death Star Troopers, 6 super battle droids, and 4 Endor troops. I have three plain Stormies, no plain rebels, 4 plain clones, and five plain droids. That means that I have 31 specialty troops, and 12 generic troops.

Do you guys see the problem?