timslegos Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 Great looking crawler! Will you take more pictures of the axle design? tim Quote
DLuders Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 I can see that your Technic Skunk crawler is benefitting from the lighter weight of the PF Rechargeable Battery Box (even though it only produces an Output Voltage of 7.4 Volts) AND those 3rd-party tires. Maybe the Skunk should try to climb that concrete pipe from the other direction (right-to-left).... Quote
efferman Posted July 7, 2012 Author Posted July 7, 2012 I can see that your Technic Skunk crawler is benefitting from the lighter weight of the PF Rechargeable Battery Box (even though it only produces an Output Voltage of 7.4 Volts) AND those 3rd-party tires. Maybe the Skunk should try to climb that concrete pipe from the other direction (right-to-left).... it seems to be a combination of improvements. sure the tires giving more grip and ground clearance. then the lipo give a little bit more voltage than my eneloops in the batterie box. then i have raised the gearratio from 1:7,722 to 1:13,8xx. this was necessary because the bigger tires needs more torque. and last but not least are giving thew softer springs more contact to the ground. @Timslegos sure i can do it Quote
efferman Posted July 7, 2012 Author Posted July 7, 2012 thanks @timslegos i have made a short step by step instruction. in the flickr folder you can find more steps 101_9465 von efferman auf Flickr Quote
timslegos Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 Thanks effe! I will be learning from one of the best. tim Quote
DLuders Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 @ efferman: I cannot tell whether your axle design has the SAME DIMENSIONS as the 9398 4x4 Crawler's axle (since I don't yet own that set). Is your axle interchangeable with the 9398 axle, but just snapping on the 92910 "Steering Ball" and attaching a few Technic pins? It seems that your axle is NOT AS HIGH as the 9398's axle. Less height --> greater ground clearance. Also, it seems that it used FEWER PARTS --> lighter weight --> better Crawler performance.... Quote
efferman Posted July 7, 2012 Author Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) hm, it should be possible. i will till tomorrow build a 9398 compatible version the ride height is the same, it is only more compact and stable between the tires edit: i have found a solution, every connection points, like springs and balljoints at the same place like the original axle 101_9470 von efferman auf Flickr instructions tomorrow Edited July 7, 2012 by efferman Quote
z3_2drive Posted July 8, 2012 Posted July 8, 2012 Thank you for those instructions! This is kind of what I had in mind, I'll surely use this axle to build something like the 'Skunk' Quote
Crtlego Posted July 8, 2012 Posted July 8, 2012 the 9398 C-model has shown that simplicity has big advantages. So i decide to kill the big crawler and and have optimized the c model with external parts. but there is only one question: is it a skunk or a black kitten with a white stripe on the back? Nice video. I like the course you're running your crawlers on. Great performance! I like your "Skunk" -- it is very capable but it does not "stink"! it seems to be a combination of improvements. sure the tires giving more grip and ground clearance. then the lipo give a little bit more voltage than my eneloops in the batterie box. then i have raised the gearratio from 1:7,722 to 1:13,8xx. this was necessary because the bigger tires needs more torque. and last but not least are giving thew softer springs more contact to the ground. @Timslegos sure i can do it Nice! I use eneloop batteries as well! How do you think they compare to Lego's rechargeable battery? Quote
efferman Posted July 8, 2012 Author Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) hm, i think the eneloops are heavier than the lipo, but there is imho no other big difference in performance. the instruction for my "no diff axle" are finished. here are some steps 101_9495 von efferman auf Flickr to change the direction of rotation at the wheels, change the tan bevel gear with the grey freerun bevel gear. if not, the front and rear axle will run in oposite directions Edited July 8, 2012 by efferman Quote
DLuders Posted July 8, 2012 Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) @ efferman: Thanks for the 20 photo-sequence Building Instruction images for your Non-Differential Axle design. I'm SO ENVIOUS of the Europeans who have the 9398 4x4 Crawler set already, so I want to build your axles today with the spare parts I have on hand. When I finally get the 9398, I plan on having two sets of axles (one with differentials and one without) to be able to handle all driving situations. Edited July 8, 2012 by DLuders Quote
Crtlego Posted July 9, 2012 Posted July 9, 2012 I suppose its worth it though, to be able to recharge the eneloops instead of buying a set of AA's every week. @ efferman: Thanks for the 20 photo-sequence Building Instruction images for your Non-Differential Axle design. I'm SO ENVIOUS of the Europeans who have the 9398 4x4 Crawler set already, so I want to build your axles today with the spare parts I have on hand. When I finally get the 9398, I plan on having two sets of axles (one with differentials and one without) to be able to handle all driving situations. I share your jealousy.. I only hope that when it does come out, there will be some discount at some point during the holidays for me to take advantage of. Quote
efferman Posted July 15, 2012 Author Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) long live the overkill. currently iam trying a setup with four PF-L and a gear rate of 1:6. current working title 5to ra gl 101_9509 von efferman auf Flickr Edited July 15, 2012 by efferman Quote
Kit Fisto Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) Fantastic!Really cool chassis.Is it possible to remove pairs of L motors with XL?(1 Xl for each axle).And what`s the gear reduction before portal hubs?12/20?.Ok I understood. Edited July 15, 2012 by Kit Fisto Quote
efferman Posted July 15, 2012 Author Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) it should be possible, but in this case i would prefer to design new axles. the current design is too specific for the twin engine setup. the possible gear ratio: 1:6 actual L > 12/24 > 12/12 > 8/24 > wheel 1:10 possible if the actual ratio is to fast L > 12/24 > 12/20 > 8/24 > wheel Edited July 15, 2012 by efferman Quote
vwpint Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Im a big fan!! I have got a lot of inspiration of your mocs!!(bad english) Quote
DLuders Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) long live the overkill....current working title 5to ra gl @ efferman: I like the overkill! The code name of "5to ra gl" must be abbreviations in German -- what does it mean? I looked in your Flickr photoset and see how the four Power Functions Large motors could provide the power needed to climb that concrete pipe (with the help of those Ansmann tires)! Edited July 15, 2012 by DLuders Quote
timslegos Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Wow Effe, you are crazy . Do the 4 L motors equate to about 2 xl motors? tim Quote
efferman Posted July 15, 2012 Author Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) well the working title is maybe history, but it means: 5to = 5 tons of payload ra = race version. normaly would be at this position stood a mil for military gl = geländegängig (all-terrain) it was planned something like this. currently iam trying to fit this body on the chassis 100_8821 von efferman auf Flickr the concrete pipe itself is absolute no problem. but it is one to come to the pipe. the slope on the left side is very slippery, and the steps on the other side are very heavy to climb up. @ timslegos i dont know if it is equal, but i have the advantage of a differential simulation, but without the disadvantages of a differential. iam only know that yesterday evening the lipo accu are going into a practice strike Edited July 15, 2012 by efferman Quote
Zerobricks Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Jay for overkill! I really wish I could challenge you to a TT race Quote
efferman Posted July 15, 2012 Author Posted July 15, 2012 be sure, if i take a vacation in slovenia, i will contact you. please do the same if you will be in southern germany Quote
Alasdair Ryan Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 What about the north west of Scotland instead? Quote
efferman Posted July 15, 2012 Author Posted July 15, 2012 What about the north west of Scotland instead? why not current standing 101_9510 von efferman auf Flickr i think the proportion fits to a G with short wheelbase Quote
DLuders Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 It looks like you are making a Mercedes Gelandewagen! Quote
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