Brick built hulls

[El Bucanero]

So tell me, how would you build a brick built hull?

[gui45]

On the one hand many problems come in using Lego hulls, first of all the problem of the color of the hull, it breaks the lines of colors. Another big problem is the width (even in extending it a bit on the side), it doesn't allow to build a high scale ship (4 central parts make a good width/length ratio, 5 could still be OK, but I don't think more is advisable).

But on the other hand it is hard to build one's own hull, there are many ways to build one and I invite you to look at some creations on brickshelf to see by yourself. Not to mention such hulls need a lot of bricks.

I'm currently thinking of building a hull and I have to say it is a headache for me, especially to make a round hull, by round I mean when viewed from above but also with curved sides. I'm currently trying to see if it is possible to make a hull with hinges and plates.

In the end I think it depends on what you want. If you want to build a small to medium sized ship and not to bother too much about how to build a hull I'd say go for the Lego hulls. It could also be more "slick" this way. But if you want to build a big ship, more accurate and all by yourself then build your own hull.

[Mister Phes]

My first question would be to what scale are you building this ship? Is it the scale of the official Pirate LEGO Ships or you literally want something as big as the HMS Victory?

And what do you mean by "professional help"? There's no professionals amongst us as far as I'm aware but there are some expert MOC builders only too happy to help!

[Berry Syedow]

Try building a "round" hull on a smaller scale. Get a few books about ship hulls (if they exist) or model ships, whatever necessary to educate you! Take a look at some of these of links for inspiration:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=196199

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=28052

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=193609

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1300842

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=70435

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=118133

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=117595

Unconventional use of basic hull:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=79497

Non-pirate related hulls:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=535412

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=140163

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1076752

Dissect the above links to get a basic idea of how you want to attempt the hull. Some moccers utilize SNOT, a technique that may be helpful.

[El Bucanero]

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[Aaron Morse]

My first question would be to what scale are you building this ship? Is it the scale of the official Pirate LEGO Ships or you literally want something as big as the HMS Victory?

And what do you mean by "professional help"? There's no professionals amongst us as far as I'm aware but there are some expert MOC builders only too happy to help!

first answer: take a look at this site, I am aiming on the HMS Bellona.

second answer: Okay your'e right mate, proffesional is not the right word, experienced, or expert mocer would be better :-)

I started my heavy frigate project out with one row of 2x3 inverted, two rows of 2x2 inverted one row of SNOT configured upsidedown with 3x4 slanty pieces covered by flat tile pieces. looks really nice. My next project btw is also based on the Belona from that web site. Should be starting that by mid August, I'm just waiting for the pieces from Bricklink to arrive to lay the keel. I'll make sure to post pics as I go!

Aaron

[Mister Phes]

Its almost mid August Mr Tiber so lets all get excited!!! By any chance is there an interim progress report or aren't you planning to progress until you get the pieces you require?

[Captain Roger]

There are castle guys in the ship...why?

[Admiral Starwind]

Atta boy Aaron *waves his canadian flag*

[El Bucanero]

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[Mister Phes]

Maybe Captain Roger is referring to another MOC and posted that question mistakenly in this thread because there is a recent ship MOC with Wolf People in its Brickshelf Gallery.

Exactly what part of the world are you from Mr Tiber? You'd be much closer to a Pick A Brick than I am!

[El Bucanero]

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[Mister Phes]

Apart from those who participate in online forums such as these "Pick A Brick" would seem like a foriegn concept to most people in Australia. BrickLink is about the closest I can imagine coming to a Pick A Brick at the moment.

[Admiral Starwind]

Apart from those who participate in online forums such as these "Pick A Brick" would seem like a foriegn concept to most people in Australia. BrickLink is about the closest I can imagine coming to a Pick A Brick at the moment.

Yeah i didn't even know what the heck you were talking about at first.

[Aaron Morse]

Exactly what part of the world are you from Mr Tiber? You'd be much closer to a Pick A Brick than I am!

I'm from Europe, the Netherlands, maybe I am closer, but those walls are like crap :-( The best pick a brick wall is in LEGOland Germany(a factory in there with a big big hall with bricks!)Aren't there Pick a Brick walls in Australia? *pirate*

Arrr

Mr Tiber

Where in Germany? I live in Canada but am going to Germany in early 2008. I'll bring an empty suitcase!

[Khorne]

Exactly what part of the world are you from Mr Tiber? You'd be much closer to a Pick A Brick than I am!

I'm from Europe, the Netherlands, maybe I am closer, but those walls are like crap :-( The best pick a brick wall is in LEGOland Germany(a factory in there with a big big hall with bricks!)Aren't there Pick a Brick walls in Australia? *pirate*

Arrr

Mr Tiber

Where in Germany? I live in Canada but am going to Germany in early 2008. I'll bring an empty suitcase!

The German Legoland is in G

[Aaron Morse]

Exactly what part of the world are you from Mr Tiber? You'd be much closer to a Pick A Brick than I am!

I'm from Europe, the Netherlands, maybe I am closer, but those walls are like crap :-( The best pick a brick wall is in LEGOland Germany(a factory in there with a big big hall with bricks!)Aren't there Pick a Brick walls in Australia? *pirate*

Arrr

Mr Tiber

Where in Germany? I live in Canada but am going to Germany in early 2008. I'll bring an empty suitcase!

The German Legoland is in G

[El Bucanero]

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[Capn Frank]

I had posted this in the Progress of The Acheron Part III Thread.

But i figured it may be useful here for those seeking to make brick-built hulls. :)

In my experience 3x3 facets and wedges seem to work the best. Then have some inverted slopes to blend the bottom of the bow to the top of the bow.

If the bow is mostly black, then almost all the facet lines are "covered up". ;-)

The bow on the dame du loup is 30 studs wide using about 50 facets. if you had a choice between facets and wedges, i recommend using the wedges. Reason being is that it would be a lot easier to construct it when putting it together. It was really difficult using all facets without it falling apart in the construction stage.

However, my bow is very solid and is probably the strongest component of my frigate. :)

For a 3x3 facet on BL the part # is 2462.

For a 3x3 wedge on BL the part # is 30505.

If you'd like other ideas for hulls here are a few examples:

Here's a plate built bow:

Here's a inverted-sloped hull:

Here's a unique hull build that i haven't tried yet:

P

[El Bucanero]

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[Capn Frank]

Thanks Mr P!

Well, let me start asking something,

What's the best way of doing the stern? I would really appreciate if you made instructions (MLCAD perhaps)

Doesn't need to be so big though.

Mr Tiber

Hmm. Instruction ay? I don't have MLCAD so i won't be able to show anything on there. :-$ I've never used it 8-|

The stern on my frigate is getting a huge overhaul real soon. After looking at real sterns on my brother's books.

Here's what it currently looks like though.

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I think the windows need to be a lot closer together and a little more square on the top deck (oddly enough :-D )

And coloring too. gotta work on the color :)

I don't really know of any good sterns for brickbuilt hulls.

The stern shown above is my third attempt at it :-||

I like how the bottom deck has turned out, just got to work on the officers' deck area.

Going to try real hard to make it look like a late 18th century vessel like this one:

P

[tchuk-norst]

I want to make a wider ship and so how does one make a brick-built base?

[Capn Frank]

I would check to see if there are any previous related topics first.

[Erdbeereis]

In the future, please do a search before posting a new topic every time OK?

I'll close this, the thread Phred posted should have plenty of info for now. If you have any additional questions, you can make a new thread.

[Mister Phes]

T'was I who merged this thread with Tchuk-norst's thread. Seemed little point having a small duplicate thread.