LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted May 31, 2015 Author Posted May 31, 2015 Air brake feature implemented! Air brake feature implemented! by Mr. Busy Hands, on Flickr Yes. This detail has finally been actualize in the design, with no compromise of other details featured at the rear laser energizer tower. You might also notice that the wings have been angled more diagonally. This is so in order that the inner slope of the rear laser energizer tower be angled more horizontally as accurate to the studio model(s). Air brake feature implemented! by Mr. Busy Hands, on Flickr Air brake feature implemented! by Mr. Busy Hands, on Flickr Air brake feature implemented! by Mr. Busy Hands, on Flickr Air brake feature implemented! by Mr. Busy Hands, on Flickr Yes cliché, as many snowspeeders before have featured the 2 x 2 flag element. Even more so, this is Lego's foremost approach to this detail for their stock snowspeeders, (which their aircraft is continually frowned upon by many for obvious reasons). Personally for me, the phenomenon of this recycled method is that, once closed it lines up perfectly flush with the rest of the laser tower energizer and colors accordingly. You might say it's not accurate in certain aspects as compared to the models, but from model to Lego, it's a wonderful compromise; especially when snowspeeder sticklers deem it an essential part to even be considered a snowspeeder. So its better to have it than not have it! What do you think? Quote
GuyDudeMan27 Posted June 1, 2015 Posted June 1, 2015 I love how it flits flush. One of my favorite parts is the laser generator, before and after. Keep up the great work! Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted June 1, 2015 Author Posted June 1, 2015 I love how it flits flush. One of my favorite parts is the laser generator, before and after. Keep up the great work! Likewise, accommodated with those intriguing energy converters and laser barrels, the whole set is exceptionally complementary to the angle of the wings! Thanks! Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted June 1, 2015 Author Posted June 1, 2015 Why not use 1x4 slopes on the wings? Besides the fact that using a longer piece I would dramatically lose the necessary wing width for the energizers, the slope of this element is in general not sharp enough to represent the proper angle of the actual wing of a snowspeeder. See link: reference image (by the way I do not know how to acquire a large photo from another site and resize it to the eurobricks standards). Thanks! Quote
ecmo47 Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) DSC01189 by Scott Roys, on Flickr DSC01200 by Scott Roys, on Flickr Here's a couple snowspeeders that I heavily modified from the current set #79045. I was very happy with the way the engine vanes in the back turned out. I struggled with cockpit and an not 100% happy with it but it's not too bad. Maybe I'll use some of your ideas to tweak the design. They were part of this display: DSC01208 by Scott Roys, on Flickr Edited June 13, 2015 by ecmo47 Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted June 13, 2015 Author Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) @ ecmo47: Cool mods! The back engine vanes look impressive indeed. I plan to make the vanes on mine more accurate to the models some time on. I also like the transparent stand you have for the snowspeeder and the Hoth display with Cavegod's UCS AT-AT is "fantascinating!" If you like so, you can use the cockpit design and adapt to your speeders—and if you didn't notice the 57783 windscreen is just a placeholder for the 18972 windscreen, which will nicely cover up the unsightly 1 plate height atop the front section of the cockpit. Now I really want to finish my AT-AT more so! Edited June 13, 2015 by LiLmeFromDaFuture Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted June 14, 2015 Author Posted June 14, 2015 I was very happy with the way the engine vanes in the back turned out. I am impressed with the idea that the vanes are studless and smooth while also thin unlike other styles, which appear to me rather clunky, unsightly with either studs or the underside of plates, or a combination of both. I am compelled to also utilize these elements to improve my snowspeeder's back vanes, because they need serious help . Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted June 15, 2015 Author Posted June 15, 2015 More updates… YAY! There's a since of knowing that the final design draws near and the model is thereafter completed. Revision updates are infrequent and improvements are minimal (yet always considerable), and the model is looking phenomenal, progressively as updates come along… Finally… The back vanes have been corrected to a more accurate design. Back Vanes revised by Mr. Busy Hands, on Flickr Back vanes revised by Mr. Busy Hands, on Flickr Back vanes revised by Mr. Busy Hands, on Flickr Likewise I also revised the bottom to complement the shapes of the back vanes. Back vanes revised by Mr. Busy Hands, on Flickr You may have also notice I replace the 3 x 1 slope elements with their 4 x 1 relatives; upon reconsideration @ Bob De Quatre suggestion. Previously I did not approach this idea because I dislike the stepped pattern (which they are currently in now) and how I primarily wanted to use them, like the 3 x 1's before, would unnecessarily lengthen the wings and decrease the slope that I felt is parallel with that of an actual studio model. Curiously, I notice the slope of 3 x 1s stacked aside each other was not linear (the slope seem to grow ever so steeper), and ultimately the studs exposed on the outsides of the wing appeared unappealing for a SNOT snowspeeder. Basically, I replace the 3 x 1s with 4 x 1s and did a side by side comparison between the two slopes… Slope comparison by Mr. Busy Hands, on Flickr Tangerine to oranges, they look like the same to me ;—) Thank for your time and be sure share your thoughts on the progress so far! Quote
La Chupacabra Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 What about canopy ? Do you plan to change it ? Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted June 17, 2015 Author Posted June 17, 2015 What about canopy ? Do you plan to change it ? Indeed, I have recently changed some minor aspects of the cockpit, exclusively the two white curved slopes, which were atop the gunner section of the cockpit, with a 1 x 4 and radiator grilles. Also when I plan to build the real thing I will swap out the windscreen at front with the new Speed Champions 4 x 5 x 1 1/3 windscreen, so you won't see all those unsightly gaps like so… Additional changes by Mr. Busy Hands, on Flickr Additional changes by Mr. Busy Hands, on Flickr Additional changes by Mr. Busy Hands, on Flickr Thanks! Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted June 18, 2015 Author Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) Which do you prefer, uniform white wings, or wings with gray highlights of random elements?… Uniform white or with gray highlights of random elements? by Mr. Busy Hands, on Flickr Uniform white or with gray highlights of random elements? by Mr. Busy Hands, on Flickr Uniform white or with gray highlights of random elements? by Mr. Busy Hands, on Flickr Uniform white or with gray highlights of random elements? by Mr. Busy Hands, on Flickr Uniform white or with gray highlights of random elements? by Mr. Busy Hands, on Flickr SWOOSH! Comment your opinion! Edited June 18, 2015 by LiLmeFromDaFuture Quote
Smitty500 Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 Wow, This has come a long way and it looks great compared to your initial start. I Like it much better with 4x1 slopes. I also prefer the clean white look. Atleast on the edges of the model, Maybe change some inner pieces gray instead? I just don't think the slopes look right in gray. Quote
Werlu Ulcur Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 It looks terrific! If it were me I would go for the uniform wings - all white or with matching gray. It looks fantastically better then Lego's botched-up attempt. Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted June 18, 2015 Author Posted June 18, 2015 Wow, This has come a long way and it looks great compared to your initial start. I Like it much better with 4x1 slopes. I also prefer the clean white look. Atleast on the edges of the model, Maybe change some inner pieces gray instead? I just don't think the slopes look right in gray. Hey, I am glad you like! Indeed this snowspeeder has traveled far to where it is now. Likewise, it appears to me that clean white seems visually impressive in regards to other colors and aspects on the aircraft, as opposed to the gray elements that are scattered across and distract attention from features like the laser cannons and other things. I didn't want too much gray that it looks like a camouflage pattern, or too little that it seems unnecessary, but ultimately, I guess it just doesn't look right—clean white it is! Thanks! It looks terrific! If it were me I would go for the uniform wings - all white or with matching gray. It looks fantastically better then Lego's botched-up attempt. Thanks for sharing your opinion—I value hearing from others! I judge, uniform white is the best option too; I couldn't do so much gray or it would make wedge brick at front out of place, because the closest snowspeeder color it comes in is white. Glad you like it better than Lego's. Maybe it will pressure them to reboot their approach in future products? Quote
Werlu Ulcur Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) Hopefully they do make a better version of it. From the OT, of the ships available as sets, IIRC it's the only ship that they haven't made a good decent version of yet. Edited June 18, 2015 by Werlu Ulcur Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted June 18, 2015 Author Posted June 18, 2015 Hopefully they do make a better version of it. From the OT, of the ships available as sets, IIRC it's the only ship that they haven't made a good decent version of yet. I agree. Their recent snowspeeder 75049-1 (2014) hasn't dramatically change in design from the one release back in 2003 (4500-1). 10+ years and we are only given new play features, some more minifigures, etc., and few minor improvements in details and build! Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted June 19, 2015 Author Posted June 19, 2015 As I feel this is the final improvements to this version (but I'll keep you posted if there's anything new) of my original snowspeeder, here is another comparison between Lego's recent and underwhelming snowspeeder and ScottishDave's impressive & generous rework of Larry Lars' most famous snowspeeder—analyze below… I look forward to hearing feedback from y'all! As you can also see above each snowspeeder is fairly on the same scale, dimensions almost 19 x 20 studs between each :D Quote
ScottishDave Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 Well done, and thank you for sharing the steps in your progress with us. It's great to see a project evolving over time. There is a lot to like in your model. The SNOT wings look fantastic, especially on the underside: much, much cleaner than the brickbuilt ones on mine. It makes me wish I wish I had a box of 1 x 4 white slopes in front of me right now! I also like some of the little touches - the cannon tips, the rear gun (your first version, using the space console as a stand) and the grilles on the repulsor units. These are all excellent, and I may well incorporate them if I ever rebuiild my own snowspeeder. Some small suggestions: How about some 1 x 3 tiles on the exposed mix of hollow and closed studs on side-slopes of the nose? I like the stands you have used for the lower airbrakes, but wouldn't it be cooler if they were fuctional? I think that the power couplings are too thick - I seriously think that they should be one brick thick (yes, like on mine!) I also think that the repulsor units are too thick, but I can live with that: it gives you a better proportioned stripe and those lovely grilles. I also think that the deck on which the rear gun rests is too long: perhaps the cockpit could be made 1 stud longer at the back? These are just quibbles - things I would do differently. Overall, I think that your snowspeeder looks really good, and I'm very interested in seeing it in real bricks. I'm also interested in seeing it with the canopy you mentioned - it certainly looks like the correct part to use, perhaps with some cut-up white stickers applied to represent the frame. Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted June 21, 2015 Author Posted June 21, 2015 Well done, and thank you for sharing the steps in your progress with us. It's great to see a project evolving over time. There is a lot to like in your model. The SNOT wings look fantastic, especially on the underside: much, much cleaner than the brickbuilt ones on mine. It makes me wish I wish I had a box of 1 x 4 white slopes in front of me right now! I also like some of the little touches - the cannon tips, the rear gun (your first version, using the space console as a stand) and the grilles on the repulsor units. These are all excellent, and I may well incorporate them if I ever rebuiild my own snowspeeder. ScottishDave, thanks! I too am impressed of the phenomenal progress and astonished by its marvelous aspects! Certainly, the wings and their intriguing detailing are the main highlight of the aircraft. Indeed, since I first decided to brick the wings instead of plate them, I had accessible a wide range of possibilities to handle detailing such as the repulsor units and lasers. Why because of this factor I could set the 1 x 2 roof tiles on a linear angle (or continuous slope) by having some of those elements on a plate level and others on 1/3 of a plate level (if that makes since). Other things like the harpoon-deck gave that section a more smoother appearance, than using that console as a modified brick with studs on both sides with a stand to angle the gun parallel to the deck. Some small suggestions: How about some 1 x 3 tiles on the exposed mix of hollow and closed studs on side-slopes of the nose? I like the stands you have used for the lower airbrakes, but wouldn't it be cooler if they were fuctional? I think that the power couplings are too thick - I seriously think that they should be one brick thick (yes, like on mine!) I also think that the repulsor units are too thick, but I can live with that: it gives you a better proportioned stripe and those lovely grilles. I also think that the deck on which the rear gun rests is too long: perhaps the cockpit could be made 1 stud longer at the back? These are just quibbles - things I would do differently. Overall, I think that your snowspeeder looks really good, and I'm very interested in seeing it in real bricks. I'm also interested in seeing it with the canopy you mentioned - it certainly looks like the correct part to use, perhaps with some cut-up white stickers applied to represent the frame. – I tried adding 1 x 3 tiles to clean up some of those studs, but then things became worse than that stud-ed section: the angled plate section angled higher than the level of the wings. However, I am considering trying something once I get to physical bricks. – Thanks! There is a few aspects I find fascinating: its simplicity, its angles, and it looks like it's a mechanical feature. However, it is not functional in any way, which was disappointment—it would've been cool if it were would it not? I might experiment with turntable plates, but that is once I build it, since you cannot use the plate without the plate holder in LDD. – Perhaps it is to thick, but since I am using the brackets available and roof tiles to build up that aspect… I'll just have to wait until Lego releases 1 x 1 - 2 x 1 & 1 x 1 - 1 x 1 brackets (I truly look forward to Lego producing a 1 x 1 - 1 x 1 bracket, especially in black for another project). – Exactly why what happened with the power couplings, plus I went for the better proportioned stripe and those undeniably intriguing grille pattern as well. – I wish Lego produced a 1 x 1 corner panel (or just a plain panel without the corner) in trans black… I can only expect to see so in the near future. Well thanks for the positive feedback and suggestions! I am glad to read you are interested in this, this has truly compelled me to progress successively with the snowspeeder, which I know will be a blast to see in real bricks. Other than seeing those repulsor units with their grilles and the back vanes in the flesh, I look forward to getting a hold of that particular windscreen, and as I also thought of too, apply some cut white stickers across the canopy to represent the frame as well. Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted June 22, 2015 Author Posted June 22, 2015 New nose, sharper wing angle, and longer cockpit. ScottishDave, I particularly think you will be most thrilled over these improvements, as they issue from your suggestions on certain aspects of my snowspeeder: I do feel that the join between the snot wings and the nose looks a little messy, and could do with a bit more work - but it's your design! Surprisingly, I finally came around to implementing Larry Lars widely acclaimed design for the nose (and it was a relatively smooth swap from mine to yours). At first, I never approach this idea because of how it lacked the proper pattern like the decorated wedge brick and how many studs would be exposed for implementing so. However, I observed the in accuracies of my design, overcame my disputes with the obvious studs and the lack of a quality pattern, and accepted the proper angles of the design over the minuscule amount of studs and pattern. Besides, it looks exceedingly better, as all of the studs appear in the right places. More revisions down the road I also think that the deck on which the rear gun rests is too long: perhaps the cockpit could be made 1 stud longer at the back? Done! All what I needed to do was increase the slope of the wings (which the angle is similar to yours) that it would allow the windscreen (I replaced the other one with this by the way) to be lengthened back… More revisions down the road This also attributed a more appealing side profile for the wings and cockpit. More revisions down the road …and those lovely grilles. Love that pattern of grilles? so do I! Because I angled the wings more, I was delighted to witness I could also add couple more 1 x 1 modified plates with vertical clips to the inner slope ends on each of the repulsor units. More revisions down the road And undershot view More revisions down the road Lower air brakes still not functional though… I look forward to hearing feedback! Quote
TWP Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 I really like how your snowspeeder has evolved, it has become very nice! Nice to see i'm not the only one thinking of a snowspeeder cockpit with the speed racers windshield, when I first saw it I thought it would fit perfectly. I see some unique solutions in your snowspeeder, which are very nice, and might be trendsetting for snowspeederbuilders in the future! Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted June 23, 2015 Author Posted June 23, 2015 I really like how your snowspeeder has evolved, it has become very nice! Nice to see i'm not the only one thinking of a snowspeeder cockpit with the speed racers windshield, when I first saw it I thought it would fit perfectly. I see some unique solutions in your snowspeeder, which are very nice, and might be trendsetting for snowspeederbuilders in the future! I am truly pleased to hear time and again of how amazing the evolutionary progress is! Likewise to hear others agree that the new windscreen would make a perfect addition to the cockpit. Indeed, I as well imagine many others fashioning their speeders with my original techniques, then reading the comments and the new topics about implementing them! Thanks! Quote
Lord Tyrus Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 Wow, this is a great rendition of the snowspeeder! You have just bumped the T-47 higher on my 'to do' list! Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted June 25, 2015 Author Posted June 25, 2015 Wow, this is a great rendition of the snowspeeder! You have just bumped the T-47 higher on my 'to do' list! Wow! I am impressed by that statement. This reminds of the times before when I loved nothing but the empire. However being a tremendous AT-AT enthusiast and everything related to it, the idea of having a snowspeeder against my AT-AT (which is secretly in the works) floated around… and now I am here with my T-47, which astonishes me as well. I will have the file available once I finish revising it. Thanks! Quote
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