LEGO Star Wars 2011 Pictures & Rumors

[StoutFiles]

I'll wrap this up as neat and tidy as I can.

If you like CW then that's awesome, you have a SW show to watch and enjoy. If you don't like CW then that's too bad, but be grateful that the events of CW are so unimportant to the main storyline that they don't even warrant a mention in ROTS.

But, I think we can all agree on one thing. Without CW keeping Star Wars relevant, the Lego Star Wars license would likely have ended by now. Whether you like it or not, it is a GOOD thing CW is on air; you're either getting CW sets you like and/or occasionally getting some PT/OT sets that you normally wouldn't be getting without the continued license.

As an OT collector it pains me that almost all the sets are CW but I'm not the target audience, kids are. Yes, LEGO's are, in fact, for kids! CW is a kid's show. They're going to make more sets for a show that is on the air and their target audience is currently watching, it's just smart business. They're going to make those figures more detailed because I bet studies show that kids want really detailed figures over a high piece count. They're not going to make a bunch of OT sets that have already been made in the past and attract a smaller audience than their CW sets. This is just the way things are going to be.

Let's get the thread back on track.

[Fallenangel]

For example, why must you continuously refer to it as Neo-Clone Wars? It has a proper distinguishable name, or you could simply refer to it as the current series. To continuously use Neo gives of a heavy sense of disdainful and snarky sarcasm that really can be avoided.

The difference between "the" and not having "the" isn't always clear, and I've seen instances in English-speaking countries where people are quite arbitrary about including "the" where appropriate. Furthermore this is an international forum and I understand that English isn't everyone's first language, and the distinction may not be as clear-cut for them (what with the apparent grammatical tolerance on these forums). The prefix "Neo-" allows for more clarity in my opinion, and warrants the creation of a more distinct acronym (nCW - because you guys seem to like your acronyms around here).

It's Neo-Clone Wars because it establishes, or at least has tried to establish, a new chronology for the Clone Wars which is currently incompatible with existing canon. The Clone Wars created by Dark Horse was pretty wide in scope, and there were discrepancies with even older canon (the original ending date of the Wars was 35 BBY before the Prequels) but after five years or so its documentation is relatively solid and the order of events and campaigns is at the very least coherent. The '08 series had a discrepancy from the beginning concerning the date of Anakin's knighting and the introduction of certain ships such as the Venator, and it just gets more confusing from there. At this point it's just easier to think of the '08 series and related comics as a franchise separate from the older '03 franchise.

I understand what StoutFiles is saying, except for this:

But, I think we can all agree on one thing. Without CW keeping Star Wars relevant, the Lego Star Wars license would likely have ended by now. Whether you like it or not, it is a GOOD thing CW is on air; you're either getting CW sets you like and/or occasionally getting some PT/OT sets that you normally wouldn't be getting without the continued license.

I don't quite understand where this is coming from. Could you explain?

[Ceroknight]

I don't quite understand where this is coming from. Could you explain?

I think he means that LEGO would have stopped releasing set from movies made 10 years ago

I don't mind the Clone Wars, because of their sets I just need to buy the non clone wars sets and save money on next years OT/PT sets

Edited January 20, 2011 by ceroknight

[Fallenangel]

I think he means that LEGO would have stopped releasing set from movies made 10 years ago

And what, Star Wars video games didn't exist in 2008?

This is something I've tried to bring attention to in the past and feel has been overlooked numerous times- the fact that even without cranking out a new ship every week there is a solid and established fanbase for the Star Wars franchise today in the form of video gamers. Not just the Force Unleashed but all the Battlefronts and Rogue Squadrons as well as Galaxies and older games like Galactic Battlegrounds and KOTOR and the X-wing games. People need to realize that these games have breathed new life into Star Wars and in part keep it alive. (I have to pay respects to the Rogue Squadron games for bringing he X-wing into the 21st century). Believe it or not, many of the starships of the Original Trilogy are alive and well in video games. If you've played Battlefront II, for example, you would be familiar with many of the major ships of the films.(This even applies to Expanded Universe ships, as I seem to remember that the TIE Defender has recently resurfaced in a Battlefront game.)

I thank the user who took care to point out in another thread that LEGO is ignoring the potential in making ships from Star Wars video games as part of the license and consequently making bad rehashes.

We even get new ships from these video games. For example have the Defender and Assault Gunboat (among others) from TIE Fighter, the Ebon Hawk (among others) from KOTOR, the TX-130 (among others) from Battlefront, the T-2B (among others) from Empire at War, etc. I feel that Star Wars fans get their fair share of "interesting and innovative designs" from these video games as well as tributes to older franchises (the Interdictor in Empire at War, for example) and appreciate them for that reason, and feel LEGO should do the same.

[legofan24]

Lets face the facts the only new lego star wars ships coming out are from the clone wars

so i suggest if you hate it you might want to start liking it

[mathias]

I agree. The City Advent Calendar from 2010 had a lot of minis. I suppose the new character would be CW, too. Maybe a higher-ranked clone. Castle 2010's exclusive fig was similarily high-ranked. (the Kingdoms Prince)

The calendar is really interesting. I am not 100 percent sure

on my facts (I only watched the calendars being opened in

the morning) but I think that the minis from the City calendar

was supposed to be christmas gifts for the lego family kids

and therefore they do not necessarily apply to the SW calendar.

On the other hand the Castle one is more relevant (I think).

In that one you got smaller parts that could be combined

to form a slightly larger scene, like a very small kitchen.

A Stap, bigger gun and maybe some rock cover could be

something similar for SW. I'm sure someone can think of

better examples.

I also think the Castle calendar had nine figs and that five

of them where "unique" a prince, a queen, a wizard and

two civilians if I'm not mistaken, so there is hope for figs.

Since I like to build stories with my kid I would love to

have som follow-ups to this years BP:s. Like Pre Vizsla

or Captain Lock. They are not to difficult/expensive to

adapt but would add great value, in my humble opinion

of course.

Sorry for the long post but I really think this calendar

will be great, if it is made. I hope it will bring some nice

additions to Lego SW and I don't care too much if it's CW,

OT, PT or whatever as long as it fits nicely with the

existing themes.

[Delta 38]

Okay, just my brief input for the Clone Wars argument...

I don't have any form of cable television and therefore can't watch episodes on television. I also think that the whole timeline is more like a spin-off. Regardless, I buy virtually any set, even though I don't recognise Clone Wars vehicles or characters as much.

Despite those who don't like the series, it has kept the license alive, even with games and media that portray the Original Trilogy floating around. Eventually, it'd get outdated for the target audience. Kids can attracted to anything, particularly vehicles that they saw recently on television. I'm guessing that they'd go more for Clone Wars sets than other decent Original Trilogy sets.

And Clones are involved, anyway. I'm definitely okay with that.

Anyway, those are my thoughts. Back on topic, I think the advent calendar will be either Clone Wars or Original Trilogy themed (one only, and not a mix). As my points above suggest, I'm guessing it'd be Clone Wars.

Edited January 20, 2011 by Delta 38

[TheBrickHitHouse]

Oh not this 'debate' again

Boo hoo, the characters have big eyes. Let's go back to the days when you could only tell a character was obi wan by the instructions...

Let's keep this on the 2011 sets and not just complain that every set isn't an x wing...

[joelego]

so i suggest if you hate it you might want to start liking it

This is the best quote I have read in years

if you do not mind I would love to use it in the future

so i suggest you just start liking it

Well, I completely agree with you that there are signs for that a CC will come out soon.

I agree also with you klaus

the figures are starting to pile up we have the bespin han solo in the 8129

a new carbonite han a new boba fett we can easily get 2 ugnaughts and a newer lobot

along with a new lando and a bespin leia I think the only thing holding

lego back is that the 10188 set is still available

we have a new slave1 and a new falcon coming a new cloud car would just about seal the deal

i am expecting this set at toyfair or comic con this year

lets hope

[TFGuy89]

And what, Star Wars video games didn't exist in 2008?

This is something I've tried to bring attention to in the past and feel has been overlooked numerous times- the fact that even without cranking out a new ship every week there is a solid and established fanbase for the Star Wars franchise today in the form of video gamers. Not just the Force Unleashed but all the Battlefronts and Rogue Squadrons as well as Galaxies and older games like Galactic Battlegrounds and KOTOR and the X-wing games. People need to realize that these games have breathed new life into Star Wars and in part keep it alive. (I have to pay respects to the Rogue Squadron games for bringing he X-wing into the 21st century). Believe it or not, many of the starships of the Original Trilogy are alive and well in video games. If you've played Battlefront II, for example, you would be familiar with many of the major ships of the films.(This even applies to Expanded Universe ships, as I seem to remember that the TIE Defender has recently resurfaced in a Battlefront game.)

I thank the user who took care to point out in another thread that LEGO is ignoring the potential in making ships from Star Wars video games as part of the license and consequently making bad rehashes.

We even get new ships from these video games. For example have the Defender and Assault Gunboat (among others) from TIE Fighter, the Ebon Hawk (among others) from KOTOR, the TX-130 (among others) from Battlefront, the T-2B (among others) from Empire at War, etc. I feel that Star Wars fans get their fair share of "interesting and innovative designs" from these video games as well as tributes to older franchises (the Interdictor in Empire at War, for example) and appreciate them for that reason, and feel LEGO should do the same.

We're already past due for stopping this argument, but just a few more things.

I love those games, I really do (Although I have to question the argument for canonicity in regards to TCW in this case, when games such as Galactic Battlegrounds, Battlefront and Empire at War have many little problems of their own. V-Wing bombers, the production timeline of the A-wing, inconsistencies with the AT-AT origins and hundreds of Sith Knights running on the battlefield?). However the games alone simply cannot keep the Lego franchise afloat like the new Clone Wars series has. The highest selling titles in Star Wars are in the Knights of the Old Republic, Battlefront and Force Unleashed series, and each individual title sells around only 1.5 million copies on average, with none as of yet passing the 2 million mark. Impressive numbers for a video game, but again consider the game audience of mostly teens or adults like you and me. This age group just wouldn't scrounge up enough spending on Lego sets to justify extensive production of sets based on the games.

Far too many teens and adults, even if they liked Lego, would not be willing to justify spending on what they consider to be "toys". Therefore, theoretically, Lego might be able to support themselves of entirely on video game designs, but when a kid-appealing juggernaut in The Clone Wars (the new one) series comes along, why not jump at the opportunity? There may be an argument that Lego has not focused enough on what they now call the "Classic" Star Wars, but I feel it is perfect business sense to use The Clone Wars as the main line.

So actually, I do agree that many ship and location designs from the video games should have been used by Lego. There are simply so many opportunities to get fresh designs out (we could still use a giant Ebon Hawk set ). But Lego would really not survive well by relying entirely on these designs, so that's where the Clone Wars comes in.

Now let's really get the thread back on track. Does anyone know if the Advent Calendar uses cheaper plastic, or is it the same as the mainline sets? I was a bit disappointed to find that the Minifigures series that I've gotten recently were cheaper plastic.

Edited January 20, 2011 by TFGuy89

[Brickdoctor]

Now let's really get the thread back on track. Does anyone know if the Advent Calendar uses cheaper plastic, or is it the same as the mainline sets? I was a bit disappointed to find that the Minifigures series that I've gotten recently were cheaper plastic.

Pretty sure past year's calendars were standard plastic.

[commanderneyo]

I think I know why we are getting so many new Characters this year or later this year (June 2011) I read something a while ago that could be a explaniation to the many New Figures (Or at least the new CW Figures)

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/12/five-things-you-didnt-know-about-lego-star-wars-iii/1

"Everything made out of LEGO in the game has to be built in real life first -- that's two people's full time jobs!"

No Wonder the game is taking so long to come out if it takes two People's full time jobs

[Clone OPatra]

commanderneyo, that just means that they have to build the models in order to render them into the game, not that they build the models to be sets. Just like all of the other LEGO Star Wars and other LEGO theme games, there are LEGO models in the game that are not available as sets and will never be. There are also usually characters that are not available as real minifigures. I don't think that that really signifies anything.

[BrickArtist]

I understand what StoutFiles is saying, except for this:

I don't quite understand where this is coming from. Could you explain?

Stout-flies makes a good point, kids would switch over to hasbro action figures by now if LSW was just making saga sets. As comitted as AFOLs are, we can't buy enough LSW for lego to be prosperous. It's the truth.

[Churchill]

the production timeline of the A-wing

Where is this in the EU- I'd like to check it out. I know that there are other pictures of a-wings other than the movies on Wookipedia, and I'd like to check them out as well.

(Sorry, off topic, but I wanted to make sure TFGuy89 saw my reply)

Edited January 20, 2011 by Churchill

[KimT]

Picture found on Hoth Bricks/eBay.

[djmangunz]

Excellent find! I don't know much about the 3 in 1 packs. Are they Lego.com and Lego store exclusives?

[prateek]

Excellent find! I don't know much about the 3 in 1 packs. Are they Lego.com and Lego store exclusives?

Usually, they're usually only available in Germany or the Netherlands, which is a shame, as I wouldn't mind snatching up a few of each

Edited January 20, 2011 by prateek

[lightningtiger]

In the land of Oz 3-in-1 packs are the domain of TRU ! (Again)

May the brick be with TRU....oops, sorry....you !

[Fives]

When is the New York Toy Fair supposed to happen? We are in desperate need of more pics of the new summer sets.

[legofan24]

so i suggest if you hate it you might want to start liking it

This is the best quote I have read in years

if you do not mind I would love to use it in the future

so i suggest you just start liking it

Well, I completely agree with you that there are signs for that a CC will come out soon.

I agree also with you klaus

the figures are starting to pile up we have the bespin han solo in the 8129

a new carbonite han a new boba fett we can easily get 2 ugnaughts and a newer lobot

along with a new lando and a bespin leia I think the only thing holding

lego back is that the 10188 set is still available

we have a new slave1 and a new falcon coming a new cloud car would just about seal the deal

i am expecting this set at toyfair or comic con this year

lets hope

you can use it any time you want to

[Brickdoctor]

commanderneyo, that just means that they have to build the models in order to render them into the game, not that they build the models to be sets. Just like all of the other LEGO Star Wars and other LEGO theme games, there are LEGO models in the game that are not available as sets and will never be. There are also usually characters that are not available as real minifigures. I don't think that that really signifies anything.

Actually I remember reading on TBB that there is a two-man team that does put together physical models (this was during production of LIJ), but that only applies to the vehicles and playable scenery, not the characters. After all, if they did the characters, Shaak Ti and Ki-Adi would have been released with LSW1 instead of now.

When is the New York Toy Fair supposed to happen? We are in desperate need of more pics of the new summer sets.

February 13-16.

[Fallenangel]

We're already past due for stopping this argument, but just a few more things.

I love those games, I really do (Although I have to question the argument for canonicity in regards to TCW in this case, when games such as Galactic Battlegrounds, Battlefront and Empire at War have many little problems of their own. V-Wing bombers, the production timeline of the A-wing, inconsistencies with the AT-AT origins and hundreds of Sith Knights running on the battlefield?).

Well I usually tolerate lapses in canon for video games because of game mechanics, and because nobody's going to gripe if a digital X-wing isn't an exact replica of the ILM model because that's not the point.

Far too many teens and adults, even if they liked Lego, would not be willing to justify spending on what they consider to be "toys". Therefore, theoretically, Lego might be able to support themselves of entirely on video game designs, but when a kid-appealing juggernaut in The Clone Wars (the new one) series comes along, why not jump at the opportunity? There may be an argument that Lego has not focused enough on what they now call the "Classic" Star Wars, but I feel it is perfect business sense to use The Clone Wars as the main line.

You know, it's not just teens and adults that play these games. When I was younger, virtually everyone aged 7 through 10 played teen-oriented and even some adult-oriented games, and this trend continues today with all the third graders you see on Xbox live. I know many folks whose grade-school kids play games like Call of Duty and Halo and if you asked one of them what a Nebulon-B Frigate or a B-wing was they would know.

Where is this in the EU- I'd like to check it out. I know that there are other pictures of a-wings other than the movies on Wookipedia, and I'd like to check them out as well.

(Sorry, off topic, but I wanted to make sure TFGuy89 saw my reply)

If I remember correctly, there was a starship in the Droids cartoon series (supposedly taking place well before the Battle of Yavin) that strongly resembled an RZ-1, and they retconned this by inventing the R-22 Spearhead which can be seen in an illustration of the Massasi Temple somewhere. I believe ACPin acknowledged this fact in his MOC.

[Churchill]

[quote name='fallenangel327' date='20 January 2011 - 07:20 PM' timestamp='1295565627' post='906786'

If I remember correctly, there was a starship in the Droids cartoon series (supposedly taking place well before the Battle of Yavin) that strongly resembled an RZ-1, and they retconned this by inventing the R-22 Spearhead which can be seen in an illustration of the Massasi Temple somewhere. I believe ACPin acknowledged this fact in his MOC.

Thanks, Fallenangel, guess I'll have to dig up some more cartoons to watch.... back to rumors, sorry for the diversion.

[Ceroknight]

what ever happened to that mini v-wing someone found in his set?