DrJB Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Of all the official sets and MOCs, I have yet to see a car with a transverse engine (typically in-line 4). Has anyone tried that? Granted the installation is not symmetric and may call for a 'wide' car, but nonetheless, that's one more step towards realism.
kennywest Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Sheepo's Mini has one: http://www.sheepo.es/2011/11/mini-cooper-mark-i.html
Erik Leppen Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Well, in fact, I have a car built up right now that is still waiting to be photographed. Not really a supercar (no gearbox) but it counts nonetheless. The main reason to have it rotated 90 degrees is because there wa snot enough room in the longitudinal direction. (And I think simple rear wheel drive with no gearbox made it possible because the drivetrain doesn't really become that much more complex). Will post photos once I have them...
Paul Boratko Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 I did a model years ago with a transverse V6... It's nothing special by today's standards though...
Lipko Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 This forum should be renamed as "DrJB's Lounge" or something. Anyhoo http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=spiderbrick
nicjasno Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 That mini doesn't really count. I did a ford mondeo chasis (never finished) with true transverse 4 cylinder lpe and transverse 4 speed gearbox (8880 style) and macpherson suspension. Sadly no pics :(
Lipko Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 By the way, isn't Spiderbrick's Jetta included in Sariel's Incredible book?
DrJB Posted December 17, 2014 Author Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) This forum should be renamed as "DrJB's Lounge" ... To what I 'owe' such honor? Edited December 17, 2014 by DrJB
nerdsforprez Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 That mini doesn't really count. I did a ford mondeo chasis (never finished) with true transverse 4 cylinder lpe and transverse 4 speed gearbox (8880 style) and macpherson suspension. Sadly no pics :( Why? Because the true driver gear is the worm gear? From the tires and not the engine?
Rishab N Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) Tyler Reid's Honda NSX has one http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/197840 Edit: So does his Miura http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/194272 Edited December 17, 2014 by Rishab N
nicjasno Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Why? Because the true driver gear is the worm gear? From the tires and not the engine? No, because the diff drives the engine as if it's a longitudinal setup, it's just rerouted. In a true transverse setup, all gears are transverse.
NevynPA Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 No, because the diff drives the engine as if it's a longitudinal setup, it's just rerouted. In a true transverse setup, all gears are transverse. What about the Dodge Intrepid? It was a real-life longitudinal layout engine to transverse front wheel drive transmission. What does it count as? I argue that if it counts as longitudinal, then the inverse (as the Mini is) counts as transverse. If by your standards it doesn't count, then my argument is null and void. :D
DrJB Posted December 19, 2014 Author Posted December 19, 2014 I did a model years ago with a transverse V6... It's nothing special by today's standards though... Thank you for sharing, and Very nicely done. I thought that, except for the F1 Williams, blue technic pieces are rather 'rare'.
LeocornoProductions Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 Someone built a VW jetta which had a transverse I4 engine
TheNextLegoDesinger Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Someone built a VW jetta which had a transverse I4 engine also the VW Polo of my dad has a tranverse 4 cyllinder engine
Rockbrick Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) I thought this one too, but it uses the latest diff up front so technically can never be true transverse Edited December 23, 2014 by Rockbrick
Richard Dower Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 I did a model years ago with a transverse V6... It's nothing special by today's standards though... Paul.....that mode IS special!.....Blue panels parts OMG!.....the amount of work needed to collect all those rare and expensive blue parts!! Superb looking model. Thank you for sharing, and Very nicely done. I thought that, except for the F1 Williams, blue technic pieces are rather 'rare'. metallic silver as well.....must have cost a fortune to source the blue parts.
Blakbird Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Paul.....that mode IS special!.....Blue panels parts OMG!.....the amount of work needed to collect all those rare and expensive blue parts!! metallic silver as well.....must have cost a fortune to source the blue parts. Looks like the majority, and perhaps all, of those blue parts come from 8461.
DrJB Posted December 24, 2014 Author Posted December 24, 2014 Looks like the majority, and perhaps all, of those blue parts come from 8461. Still have mine sealed ... haven't had the 'courage' to open it. Must also say I already have 3 other race cars open/assembled and on display (2 Ferraris and one red/white), so not that big of a motivation.
nicjasno Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 What about the Dodge Intrepid? It was a real-life longitudinal layout engine to transverse front wheel drive transmission. What does it count as? I argue that if it counts as longitudinal, then the inverse (as the Mini is) counts as transverse. If by your standards it doesn't count, then my argument is null and void. :D The intrepid, along with cars like all audis, most saabs, 70s cadillacs, subarus and many other cars have a longitudinal setup. Both engine and transmission are longitudinal, there just happens to be a differential between the engine and transmission (or in some cases below the engine), that then drives the front wheels. In a transverse setup, everything is mounted transversly. This is not a matter of interpretation. It's actually very black and white. Transverse setup: And here's a longitudinal audi drivetrain (pictured is the quattro, but front wheel drive audis are the same, minus the central diff and driveshaft to the rear wheels)
sm 01 Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) My interpretation of Lancia Stratos (https://www.flickr.c...57645207280051/) had a working fake transverse V6: but, unfortunately, I was more concentrated on the testing of 4L motors, and less about engine details. Edited December 24, 2014 by sm 01
DrJB Posted December 24, 2014 Author Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) The intrepid, along with cars like all audis, most saabs, 70s cadillacs, subarus and many other cars have a longitudinal setup. Both engine and transmission are longitudinal, there just happens to be a differential between the engine and transmission (or in some cases below the engine), that then drives the front wheels. In a transverse setup, everything is mounted transversly. This is not a matter of interpretation. It's actually very black and white. Transverse setup: Thank you. That's exactly what I had in mind when, in my original post, I mentioned that this calls for a 'wide' car. I must add that, typically, the transverse engine is used on FWD cars and, as such, has a small footprint as the three main components (engine, transmission, differential) are integrated. Edited December 24, 2014 by DrJB
SNIPE Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Sure, it was the only way to connect it to my diff setup really, because the teeth of the 4th tooth diff were only very slightly sticking out enough to have another gear of the same size on top of that so a bevel gear wouldtn be possible and a worm gear locks the wheels up so they cant free wheel. I didn't fnish the MOC (as usual ) but it had the engine 24T gear connected right to the 24T diff. Some old lego offical sets use a transverse engine too. I tend to use flat engines such as flat 8 now because they can be bould around much easier. they are lenghways though,
nicjasno Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) Here's my attempt. Limited slip differential, 2 speed gearbox, everything is transversely mounted, macpherson suspension, steering... everything. More pics on dropbox: https://db.tt/JXl3QTh3 I will probably not continue this and will refocus on the e30 chasis. The main problem with lego fwd setups in my opinion are the completly useless CV joints, that limit the wheel steering angle way too much. If anyone wants more pics of this, do say. Edited January 2, 2015 by nicjasno
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