CMF LotR and Hobbit wish list

[Dr.Cogg]

If Lego where to make Collectable Mini Figures for LotR and Hobbit, who would you like to see, Here is my list in order:

#1 Sauron, (Hobbit and LotR version)

#2 White skin Armored Azog

#3 The Nine Armored Ring Wraiths ( Hobbit version)

#4 Armored Bolg

#5 Armored Thranduil

#6 Armored Witch King

#7 Orc Dungeon Guard (original Bolg)

#8 Iron Hill Dwarf

#9 Armored Orc (Hobbit version)

#10 Armored Elf (Hobbit version)

#11 Gondor Soldier

#12 Gothmog

#13 Moria Orc, (LotR version)

#14 Isildur

#15 Faramir

#16 Easterling

#17 Haradrim

#18 Eowyn

#19 Denethor

Edited January 13, 2015 by Dr.Cogg

[Tomsche]

1. Tom Bombadil (he is in both Lego games after all)

2. Eowyn

3. Anything suitable for army building without having to shelf out 10 euros for a Rohan warrior...

[General Magma]

This is what I think would work for CMF series for both themes:

THE LORD OF THE RINGS:

1. Sauron (Armoured)

2. Bilbo Baggins (old, travel outfit)

3. Moria Orc (Armoured)

4. Frodo Baggins (Mount Doom outfit)

5. Uruk-hai General

6. Celeborn

7. Gondorian Soldier

8. Faramir

9. Rohan Royal Guard

10. Gothmog

11. Morannon Orc

12. Sméagol (Pre-Transformation)

13. Rosy Cotton

14. Éowyn (Dress)

15. Aragorn (Helm's Deep Chainmail)

16. Denethor

Second series:

1. The Witch-King of Angmar (Armoured)

2. Gollum (Smiling Facial Expression)

3. Guritz

4. Samwise Gamgee (Mount Doom outfit)

5. Rohan Commander

6. Ithilien Ranger

7. Arwen (Travel Outfit)

8. Wild Man of Dunland

9. Morgul Orc

10. Haradrim Soldier

11. King Théoden (Brown Edoras Clothing)

12. Pippin (Gondorian Armour)

13. Merry (Rohirrim Armour)

14. Isildur

15. Elf Soldier (Second Age)

16. King Aragorn

Third series:

1. Elendil

2. Shagrat

3. Gloin (old)

4. Gil-Galad

5. Armoured Elf (Helm's Deep)

6. Gondorian Soldier (Second Age)

7. Uruk-hai Crossbowman

8. Éowyn (Dernhelm)

9. Orc Warg Rider

10. Easterling

11. Barliman Butterbur

12. Gollum (Scared Facial Expression)

13. Lurtz (Armoured)

14. Madril

15. Corsair of Umbar (Captain)

16. Gondorian Citadel Guard

THE HOBBIT:

1. Bilbo Baggins (Yellow shirt, no coat)

2. Thranduil (Armoured)

3. Master Worrywort

4. Bolg

5. Elrond (Red Armour)

6. Fimbul

7. Lobelia Sackville Baggins

8. Ringwraith (Second Age Armour)

9. Azog (Armoured)

10. Alfrid

11. Iron Hills Dwarf (Armoured)

12. Mirkwood Elf (Armoured)

13. Gundabad Orc (Armoured)

14. Lake-town Civilian

15. Thorin Oakenshield (Final Battle Gear)

16. Sauron (Flame Version)

Second series:

1. Bilbo Baggins (Mirkwood, ripped clothing & spiderwebs)

2. King Thror

3. Erebor Dwarf (Armoured)

4. Dwalin (Young)

5. Mirkwood Elf (Guard Armour)

6. Lindir

7. Bombur (Armoured)

8. Belladonna Took

9. Thrain (Armoured)

10. Narzug

11. Orc Dungeon Keeper

12. Thrain (Dol Guldur)

13. Goblin Mercenary

14. Otho Sackville Baggins

15. Sigrid

16. Galadriel (Evil)

Third series:

1. Bilbo Baggins (Return Journey outfit)

2. Gandalf the Grey (new combined hair & beard mould, battle damaged & regular face)

3. Tilda

4. Girion of Dale

5. Percy

6. Grinnah the Goblin

7. The Old Took

8. Dale Soldier

9. Dwarf Woman

10. Laketown Fisherman

11. Braga

12. Elf Musician of Rivendell

13. Bandobras "Bullroarer" Took

14. Woman of Laketown

15. Rivendell Elf (Armoured)

16. Bilbo (old, regular)

If only this were possible... it would fill up so many gaps and satisfy dozens of people with extra figures.

Edited January 13, 2015 by General Magma

[Master_Data]

I decided to split mine between The Hobbit and LotR. Listed in the order they came to mind:

Lord of the Rings

1. Sauron

2. Witch King (armored)

3. Bilbo Baggins (old)

4. Eowyn

5. Faramir

6. Gondorian Soldier

7. Armored Elf (Helm's Deep)

8. Moria Orc (armored)

Hobbit

9. Sauron (Flame version)

10. Alfrid

11. Dwalin (young)

12. Iron Hills Dwarf

13. Mirkwood Elf (armored)

14. Bilbo (Mithril coat)

15. Bolg

16. King Thror

I kind of limited myself by only listing eight in each, but it would be a nice way to round off some of the more important figures we are missing and give these themes a proper ending!

Oh, and we'll also only get 5000 of these:

17. Peter Jackson (random cameo)

[MAB]

Even if they did this (which they won't :-) ) you'd still be shelling out $10 for all the army builders. They would soon be cherry picked and unavailable.

[General Magma]

I suppose a LOTR CMF line is the most unlikely thing to happen to this theme, but at least we can have some good lists of the missing Middle-Earth figures in here

so customizers might be able to pick out a few and create the unmade characters. I also heard that BrickForge was considering to release Witch-king and Gondorian helmets (or more),

does anybody know more about this?

[Trunkbass]

^ That would be great! In my opinion the lack of those two helmets make it virtually impossible to create them on your own.

[Balbo]

Althoug I don't believe that we will ever get a CMF Middle Earth wave, it's still fun seeing all those potential lists

Here's my dream Middle Earth CMF wave:

1. Witch King

2. Gothmog

3. Rohan Soldier

4. Gondor Soldier

5. Faramir

6. Gondor Ranger

7. Alfrid

8. Eowyn (armoured)

9. Ironhill dwarve

10. Thrain

11. Thror

12. Sauron (armoured)

13. Denethor

14. Madril

15. Bilbo (old)

16. Percy

Does anyone know if brickforge and other custom companies are allowed to produce a Witch King or Gondor helmet. Aren't there problems with the licence?

[Faefrost]

1. Earth toned short figure, funny name

2. Earth toned hairy short figure really funny name

3. Earth toned human figure unpronounceable name

4. Earth toned other human figure similar unpronounceable name

5. Earth toned elf wearing a dress may be male? Completely unpronounceable name

6. Earth toned different elf. May or may not be same name, really hard to tell?

7. Earth toned Orc of some specificity

8. Earth toned different Orc, slightly different funny hat.

9. Gandalf

10. Gandalf

11. Legolas

12. Legolas

13. Legolas

14. Legolas

15. Legolas

16. Short hairy figure with funny name. Possibly Peter Jackson

[Dr.Cogg]

Though, I know it is very unlikely to get this kind of CMF line, there is still hope considering the Simpsons CMF line and I still think Lego could make some money off this if they ever decided to go after the Action Figure License, I for one would buy every figure on my list and multiples of the army builders.

Edited January 12, 2015 by Dr.Cogg

[Mazin]

Armored Peter Jackson in fat and lowfat version

Nah, just joking.

Well, i guess that it would be fair to have all of the major characters released

Still, i guess that making Lotr and Hobbit CMF is a great idea, it would be a great way to release those of the figues that missed their time, or were simply less important to produce, forgotten

[Captain Braunsfeld]

Great lists so far.

I tend to side with Balbo and Dr. Cogg.

However, I don't want Denethor. I never liked the character - and my Middle Earth armies can do without him.

[greenalfonzo]

LOTR:

1. Gondor soldier w/new helmet

2. Southron olefant rider

3. Rohan Rider w/new helmet with built in hair

4. Orc w/new helmet

5. Helms Deep Elf w/new helmet

6. Easterling w/new helmet

7. Haradrim

8. Witchking w/new helmet

9. Eowyn w/new helmet w/built in hair

10. Denethor

11. Pippen (new Gondor helmet & tree torso)

12. Merry (new Rohan Rider helmet

13. Sam w/Orc helmet

14. Frodo w/Orc helmet

15. Gothmog

16. Faramir Ranger attire

Edited January 13, 2015 by greenalfonzo

[Ql97]

Hey General Magma, great lists, but two things.

First, where is Tilda?

Second, we already got Arwen in her riding outfit. That's the one we got with the CoE. I would suggest replacing it with Queen Arwen, to go with King Aragorn.

Edited January 13, 2015 by Ql97

[General Magma]

Hey General Magma, great lists, but two things.

First, where is Tilda?

Second, we already got Arwen in her riding outfit. That's the one we got with the CoE. I would suggest replacing it with Queen Arwen, to go with King Aragorn.

I had to choose between Tilda and a (more useful) armybuilder, and I figured Tilda and Sigrid look a lot like each other so I went with the other one. Tilda could still show up in a third series, though.

The Arwen we got with the CoE was actually her in her Rivendell dress. By riding/travel outfit, I meant this:

On a side note, I've added a third list for The Hobbit now, including Tilda.

Edited January 13, 2015 by General Magma

[MAB]

I also heard that BrickForge was considering to release Witch-king and Gondorian helmets (or more),

does anybody know more about this?

Where did you hear it from? If from brickforge, then it could be true. If it was the discussion however many pages back about wishing they would do it, then it is probably false.

[Ql97]

I had to choose between Tilda and a (more useful) armybuilder, and I figured Tilda and Sigrid look a lot like each other so I went with the other one. Tilda could still show up in a third series, though.

The Arwen we got with the CoE was actually her in her Rivendell dress. By riding/travel outfit, I meant this:

On a side note, I've added a third list for The Hobbit now, including Tilda.

No, it's not her Rivendell dress. The one we got is her riding dress.

http://www.alleycatscratch.com/lotr/Elf/Arwen/Chase/Cha_8570_TornLon_medf.jpg

Why she doesn't have legs instead of a dress piece, I don't know, but if you compare the printing, it is the same costume.

By 'Lake Town Woman,' I assume you mean Hilda-Bianca?

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/lotr/images/b/ba/DOS_-_Hilda_Bianca.png/revision/latest?cb=20141106034130

[Deathleech]

Even if they did this (which they won't :-) ) you'd still be shelling out $10 for all the army builders. They would soon be cherry picked and unavailable.

Not necessarily. If Lego were smart and had their figures distributed properly per case it could work out fine. If a case comes with 60 minifures, they would just need to make sure the army builders took up 4-6 slots each.. maybe more. So for example, my dream LotR CMF list would look like this (considering we already have a number of characters already):

1. Gondor Soldier x6

2. Witch King (with black hood so can serve as regular Nazgul as well) x4

3. Eowyn x3

4. Faramir x3

5. Sauron x3

6. Gothmog x3

7. Easterling x4

8. Haradrim x4

9. Mordor Orc in armor x6

10. Ithilien Ranger x4

11. Lothlorien Elf x4

12. Rohan Soldier x4

13. Gamling x3

14. Gondor Pippin x3

15. Rohan Merry x3

16. Denethor x3

For the Hobbit, my list would look something like this:

1. Armored Iron Hill Dwarves

2. Armored Mirkwood elves

3. Armored Orcs (noticing a re-occuring theme here...? lol)

4. Bolg

5. Alfrid

6. Thrain

7. Thror

And honestly, after that I could care less who we got to fill out the remainder of the wave... probably just armored versions of main characters we didn't get.

Edited January 13, 2015 by Deathleech

[Ql97]

Here are two lists of my own, to go with General Magma's.

Lord of the Rings:

1. Boromir (Gondor Armor)

2.Theoden (Cursed)

3. Theodred

4. Aragorn (Rivendell)

5. Legolas (Casual)

6. Hama (or Gamling, depending on which is in the first series)

7. Cirdan the Shipwright

8. Merry (Party)

9. Pippin (Party)

10. Farmer Maggot

12. Arwen (Helm's Deep) (Deleted scene)

12. Grishnakh

13. Gorbag

14. Haradrim Chieftain

15. Urk-Hai Berserker (with greatsword)

16. Peter Jackson (Bree)

The Hobbit:

1. Thorin (Moria)

2. Thorin (Prologue)

3. Balin (Moria)

4. Balin (Prologue)

5. Dwalin (Final Battle)

6. Kili (Final Battle)

7. Fili (Final Battle)

8. Bofur (Final Battle)

9. Legolas (Laketown)

10. Galadriel (White council)

11. Elrond (White council)

12. Lindir

13. Bilbo (Mithril)

14. Dain (Coronation) (Deleted scene)

15. Nazgul (Armored, second varient)

16. Azog (Moria)

There are of course some gaps left, like more dwarves and the other seven Nazgul, but that should pretty much cover everything else.

[MAB]

Not necessarily. If Lego were smart and had their figures distributed properly per case it could work out fine. If a case comes with 60 minifures, they would just need to make sure the army builders took up 4-6 slots each.. maybe more. So for example, my dream LotR CMF list would look like this (considering we already have a number of characters already):

1. Gondor Soldier x6

2. Witch King (with black hood so can serve as regular Nazgul as well) x4

3. Eowyn x3

4. Faramir x3

5. Sauron x3

6. Gothmog x3

7. Easterling x4

8. Haradrim x4

9. Mordor Orc in armor x6

10. Ithilien Ranger x4

11. Lothlorien Elf x4

12. Rohan Soldier x4

13. Gamling x3

14. Gondor Pippin x3

15. Rohan Merry x3

16. Denethor x3

Having 2 or 1.333 army builders to every named character would still lead to a lack of army builders and thus price increase for the army builders.

I would imagine most collectors would want more than two Gondor soldiers, but only one Denethor. So if someone wants 20 Gondor soldiers to form a pretty small but reasonable army, then on average that's nine Denethor minifigs left over. Now sure, some of those might go to people that only want one of every figure (like CMF collectors), but there is still going to be an excess of named characters.

They would proabbly have to go to a much higher skewed distribution per box to satisify army builders, making the named ones rare, something like

20 Gondor soldiers

20 Rohan warriors

2 Faramir

2 Sauron

2 Denethor

etc ...

Of course, that satisifes the army builders, but leaves the 1 of each collectors annoyed.

[Ql97]

Having 2 or 1.333 army builders to every named character would still lead to a lack of army builders and thus price increase for the army builders.

I would imagine most collectors would want more than two Gondor soldiers, but only one Denethor. So if someone wants 20 Gondor soldiers to form a pretty small but reasonable army, then on average that's nine Denethor minifigs left over. Now sure, some of those might go to people that only want one of every figure (like CMF collectors), but there is still going to be an excess of named characters.

They would proabbly have to go to a much higher skewed distribution per box to satisify army builders, making the named ones rare, something like

20 Gondor soldiers

20 Rohan warriors

2 Faramir

2 Sauron

2 Denethor

etc ...

Of course, that satisifes the army builders, but leaves the 1 of each collectors annoyed.

On way to help with this issue is to include desirable new parts with the named characters. Take Gandalf for example. Almost everyone here has at least one of him, so not many people would buy him if he was placed in a CMF wave. If they included new parts, like Glamdring and a new hair/beard/hat piece, then the people who buy 20 Gondor soldiers would also be likely to buy 8 or 9 Gandalfs so they can update their existing wizards.

[Tomsche]

Even at `normal` distribution rates, it would be a welcome army builder. Even current ones (spartans, romans, revolutionaries etc) don`t go over a few euros on sites, while there is a heap of trading sites and FB groups for minifigures where you can get your doubles exchanged with other collectors or army builders fairly easily imho

They should just put the characters in the 3 and 4 slots (3 for less popular one off like Denethor, 4 for the more widespread populars), and keep the 5 slots for the normal troops, and we all be happy campers ;-)

[MAB]

Even current ones (spartans, romans, revolutionaries etc) don`t go over a few euros on sites,

I don't remember Romans or Spartans being sold for a few euros no sites like bricklink or ebay, even when they were current series.

[Tomsche]

I never use eBay for one, waaaaaaay to overpriced scalping going on there.

You can usually find them around 4 - 5 if you keep your eyes open, or for trade, from groups like Miniature Maniacs and the likes on FB, or trade them in worst case on a 2 for 1 base with more `less sought` figures on collector sites. I got about 64 vikings and viking women of the CMF series without ever actually buying a single one of them that way

[Deathleech]

Having 2 or 1.333 army builders to every named character would still lead to a lack of army builders and thus price increase for the army builders.

I would imagine most collectors would want more than two Gondor soldiers, but only one Denethor. So if someone wants 20 Gondor soldiers to form a pretty small but reasonable army, then on average that's nine Denethor minifigs left over. Now sure, some of those might go to people that only want one of every figure (like CMF collectors), but there is still going to be an excess of named characters.

Possibly, but you also have to remember all the kids buying them. Apparently kids aren't interested in army builders and they make up a huge portion of Lego's sales. I could see the army builder numbers being bumped up per case by even a few more, but people are also going to want all the other characters to. You can't make them so rare no one is ever going to get them because only one Denethor came in a box of 60 CMFs. If you do that, then you have a whole nother issue. The army builder prices would be fine but the one per case figures would fetch like 20 bucks a piece. Its a fine balance.

Honestly I would be fine paying $4-5 bucks per Gondor Soldier anyways. It's what I had to pay for a number of LotR and Hobbit minifigures like the Rohan Soldiers and Moria Orcs and those didn't even come with their weapons or a base.