Meisterschnorrer Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) Hi folks... I´ve finished it. I have finished my trainstation... OK, at this moment it just made in LDD, but I´m planning to finish the real model at the end of October 2016 to show it on Lego Fanwelt 2016 in Cologne....I hope this event will happen. I startet with a platform and showed it here: Bahnsteig Mark2 by Meisterschnorrer, auf Flickr This was my first step.... The next step was the following: Bahnsteig für bahnhof by Meisterschnorrer, auf Flickr I took two of my platforms....ok, looks better The third step was "adding a few details": Bahnsteig für bahnhof Mark 1.5 by Meisterschnorrer, auf Flickr Then my thoughts went to: Hmmm, what is a platform without a main building? So I startet to build the main building for a complete trainstation. The following pictures will show the process of building it: Bahnhof Modul 1 Portal by Meisterschnorrer, auf Flickr Ok, in this step, i cheatet a little. Perhaps someone will find out, where I have borrowed the entrance....Let me call it : Taking known combinations by modificate the coloring....I hope this sentence will be understood. Bahnhof Zwischenstand by Meisterschnorrer, auf Flickr And it was growing.... Bahnhof tan by Meisterschnorrer, auf Flickr Testing another color...looks good, but unfortunately there are many bricks not available in tan... Back to dark red: Trainstation dark red by Meisterschnorrer, auf Flickr Here I thoght: Yay, ready....but no. There were to many things, I had to change..... OK, enough, now the pics of my final model: Durchgangsbahnhof komplett by Meisterschnorrer, auf Flickr The front... Durchgangsbahnhof komplett rückseite by Meisterschnorrer, auf Flickr The backside. And last but not least, some facility: Vending machine by Meisterschnorrer, auf Flickr A vending mashine for snacks Ticketmashine by Meisterschnorrer, auf Flickr A ticket vending mashine Bicycle Stand Mark 2 by Meisterschnorrer, auf Flickr A bicycle stand. Pleas do not wonder about the black wheels on the bikes. They are black, because trans clear elements take a lot of time to render. The roof of the bicycle stand will be trans light blue, not white. I hope you enjoyed my little journey to the final object. Oh, before I forget. The black and yellow tiles on the platforms are already changed into a line of 1 by 2 tiles with grille and a line black tiles.... Best regards from Germany René P.S.: I´m sorry for my english, I hope everything will be understand...my english will be better, soon.... Edited October 24, 2015 by Meisterschnorrer Quote
Brick Capone Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 I really, really like this! A lot of effort went into this I see, really nice work. Quote
zephyr1934 Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 Oh wow, an excellent station, great work and it is neat to see the evolution of your design. Quote
Dutchiedoughnut Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 It looks great! Certainly reminds me of German train stations and the vending and ticket machine are wonderful :) Quote
Meisterschnorrer Posted October 24, 2015 Author Posted October 24, 2015 Thank you all... I got a lot of tips, from the members of doktor-brick. Some spots of this trainstation are a community work... I showed it, they gave tips for better designs, an I built it... Now I have to order 14k bricks :) Regards René Quote
Sven J Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 This is absolutely great!!! :thumbup: I am really looking forward to seeing it in real bricks. Quote
3D LEGO Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 Meisterschnorrer, May I compliment you on your excellent, modern design! Easily recognizable as being of they type build today. Everything from the ample bicycle rack with awning to the red and blue ticketing machines. Oh and the ever subtle communications equipment - an eyesore as ever but an necessary evil! I also like the pattern in the platform that breaks up the monotony of a mono-pour. In a addition the block signals, clocks, reader boards and endless safety fences. (We would not want to have citizens winning Darwin Awards at your fine station now would we?!) Speaking of endless fence, that fence! The wave pattern. I commend your bravery. You will be rewarded through your efforts. The lighting arrangements as well speak of your thought process that you used. And those top red flags are the maraschino cherries to top it all off! End station or through station both work, though there is a tread to avoid the former where ever possible as it limits expansion. But if it is the end of the line, well nothing helping there. The station building is of superb design but I get the feeling that it got... reduced in size at one point. Nothing wrong with small, quaint and ornate. Either color combination looks great. You know, this reminds me of those white canvas canopies that are all the rage now. I am not saying you should make make one, rather I am noticing the similarities. Switching gears... Oh wait, wrong terminology. Uh... switching tracks? Oh never mind. I have a few suggestions and or critiques if you will that you may want to consider. My first area involves the station main building. While it most certainly adds a level of completeness, bear in mind that many such old buildings have either been demolished, abandoned or otherwise disused. I would suggest not confining yourself to the need of having such a building. If the station were built new and to the scale you have shown, there would be no such building. Rather there would be a small kiosk of sorts that contained the information/ticking. Everything else is handled by those ever-apparent ticketing machines. You could also consider making portals for a underpass pedestrian tunnel if it will be a through-station. Besides, not having the building will save on brick but that is not my reasoning for discussing it. If you do keep the station building, consider moving the communications equipment to it. My second suggestion is in relation to the color of the support poles for the overhead contact systems (OCS). Originally you had them as blue. Then you changed them to black. I would not abandon the blue so quick if I were you as it adds an aesthetic touch to the station area. For example: I have seen pictures of solid red poles with grey|gray upper portions in Belgium. In northern Germany I saw an endless supply of truss towers painted sand green but that was also system wide with the rare silver painted ones around stations. Some newer ones were painted silver-grey|gray. Old stuff in here in the USA usually had poor paint jobs or lack thereof ans so looks like a rust heap now. (When there was still mainline stuff in my neighborhood they used creosote poles. But they have been gone a long time.) New stuff tends to be structural beams or the cylindrical tubes (Or are they concrete casts?) in the light grey|gray color. Its the same no matter where you go. On occasion, however you will see where design aesthetics were applied to the otherwise mundane infrastructure to make it more appealing. In Salt Lake City, Utah, USA on the Green Line to the airport as part of the TRAX light rail system (Utah Transit Authority - UTA), the poles are a contemporary modern old design, painted black, along the main drag to the airport they are a dark green except at the platforms in the stations where they are any color imaginable: orange, blue, red, etc... (One color per station area.) and out by the airport they are a very light sand green-yellow. Even if it is just in the station vicinity that they are a different color, which in most instances of such coloring they are, I would give it some thought. Lastly, the black tiles alternating with the yellow is something I have never seen at a station and is only used in specific applications. May I suggest a few alternatives? A solid yellow stripe, one that is half the width but placed 1 stud in from the edge, or go all grey|gray. (But then the safety-conscious people would protest your unsafe station!) I look forward to seeing the final forum in brick. 3D LEGO Quote
Meisterschnorrer Posted October 24, 2015 Author Posted October 24, 2015 This is absolutely great!!! :thumbup: I am really looking forward to seeing it in real bricks. Thank you very much... @ 3D Lego Wow, ok....so many words. I hope I got everything right. First: Thank you for your compliment. The positive feedback I got here and on doktor-brick is helping me to try new ways of setting bricks together. Let me answer on some points you wrote. The fence....oh yes, the fence. First it was on both sides, now it´s only on one side (the waved fence). I need over 300 lightsabers in black. For the fence, and the "lights" on the platforms... The main building: Yes, you are not the only one who says, it looks to small. As I drove home from work I thought about it (my way to work is about 40 minutes driving my car), and yes, it is a little bit small (96 studs wide) for the platforms, but unfortunately I have to say that there is no was for me, to build it bigger, because in that case, I will not be able to hold my deadline. It´s all about the money, you know? Perhaps I will make it bigger in LDD, but then only there... The part with the completeness (sorry for my english, I try to get it right): I know what you mean. Such trainstations were built over a hundred years ago and in WW1 and WW2 many of them were bombed down...but now I have to say: In my Lego world everything is awesome! If you know what I mean. In my little world everything is fine and there are no wars, and such buildings were untouched by war ;) On the platform directly attached to the main building are stairs going down and on the platforms with the rails also. Yes, I could build a real tunnel, but then I have the problem, that my whole surroundings have to be on the same level... Don´t get me wrong, you are absolutely right in this point. It would be better. The OCS...ok, in the beginning they were blue....but then I took a look on Bricklink and I saw, that these parts in blue a really expensive. Black is cheaper, so I switched to black. Btw.: blue would be my favourite....but hey, it´s all about the money. If I were home alone it would be OK for me, I can eat cheap things, but my wife and my doughter would tell me other things... The edge of the platforms are already changed. I have built a line of black tiles direct at the edge, and the second line is made of 1 by 2 tiles with grille in white...for the blind people...they are able to notice the irregularities and don´t walk on the rails. Thanks for your comment about my other fences, made with droid arms in black...I like the way doing fences in this style. Last but not least: I hope my english is not so bad at all, and you can imagine, what I´m trying to say. Best regards from Germany René Quote
Beck Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 I love this! Honestly one of the best stations I've seen in a while. My ony concern is that the front of the station seems a bit too old for the modern platforms. But other than that, it's absolutely excellent! Quote
Hod Carrier Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 The OCS...ok, in the beginning they were blue....but then I took a look on Bricklink and I saw, that these parts in blue a really expensive. Black is cheaper, so I switched to black. Btw.: blue would be my favourite....but hey, it´s all about the money.If I were home alone it would be OK for me, I can eat cheap things, but my wife and my doughter would tell me other things... I think you can go back to blue and still feed yourself and your family. You have got waaaay too many supports in the first place so you can cut down on the number quite easily. In most cases, on a straight section of track, you can apply the general rule of thumb that the distance between supports is roughly two passenger vehicles (at least in the case of the real railways). Losing a few of these supports would also lend a better view of the sweeping lines of your wonderful station roof. Quote
zephyr1934 Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 The fence....oh yes, the fence. First it was on both sides, now it´s only on one side (the waved fence). I need over 300 lightsabers in black. For the fence, and the "lights" on the platforms... ... I know what you mean. Such trainstations were built over a hundred years ago and in WW1 and WW2 many of them were bombed down...but now I have to say: In my Lego world everything is awesome! If you know what I mean. In my little world everything is fine and there are no wars, and such buildings were untouched by war ;) ... The OCS...ok, in the beginning they were blue....but then I took a look on Bricklink and I saw, that these parts in blue a really expensive. Black is cheaper, so I switched to black. Btw.: blue would be my favourite....but hey, it´s all about the money. If I were home alone it would be OK for me, I can eat cheap things, but my wife and my doughter would tell me other things... Could you do the fence cheaper using antennas? I personally like the old station front with the new platforms (and definitely on the side rather than at the end of tracks, this station seems too small to be a stub terminal). It has the feeling of a long used rail line that has been updated. While a lot of stations were bombed out in WW2, many survived or were rebuilt. I would think that smaller stations like this would be more likely to have survived. Could you do the posts in yellow using this part? As for saving money... ha ha, you could never build something that large for cheap. But yes, avoiding a lot of expensive parts will still be worth the effort. Quote
Man with a hat Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Oh WOW! Good choice putting the station parallel to the platforms. But a pity it won't be in tan. Well you can't have it all... Looking forward to the brick version anyway. Quote
Meisterschnorrer Posted October 25, 2015 Author Posted October 25, 2015 I think you can go back to blue and still feed yourself and your family. You have got waaaay too many supports in the first place so you can cut down on the number quite easily. In most cases, on a straight section of track, you can apply the general rule of thumb that the distance between supports is roughly two passenger vehicles (at least in the case of the real railways). Losing a few of these supports would also lend a better view of the sweeping lines of your wonderful station roof. OK...I will cut away some of the supports....and switch them back to blue... Good point. Thanks for the "wonderful station roof". Could you do the fence cheaper using antennas? I personally like the old station front with the new platforms (and definitely on the side rather than at the end of tracks, this station seems too small to be a stub terminal). It has the feeling of a long used rail line that has been updated. While a lot of stations were bombed out in WW2, many survived or were rebuilt. I would think that smaller stations like this would be more likely to have survived. Could you do the posts in yellow using this part? As for saving money... ha ha, you could never build something that large for cheap. But yes, avoiding a lot of expensive parts will still be worth the effort. I have to see how it looks with antennas. Yes it won´t be cheap, but the feeling to build it in bricks will be great. I remember the feeling, seeing my yellow MAK in bricks. That was awesome. Oh WOW! Good choice putting the station parallel to the platforms. But a pity it won't be in tan. Well you can't have it all... Looking forward to the brick version anyway. Thank you...yes the point with tan is sad, but dark red looks very good, too. Regards René Quote
jkj1909 Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Very nice work, specially the dark red station building. Quote
3D LEGO Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 Meisterschnorrer, Glad I could be of help. My apologies if anything I posted was a bit confusing. I am not sure how I failed to notice it but someone after me offered the suggestion. By cutting back on the number supports for the OCS, not only does it save you money but it does allow for other options, including more preferable ones. But that is all up to you. And of course the higher priorities too! One station I was thinking about that I know to be only a portion of the original is the Kassel HBF, of which I have have wandered through on numerous occasions while residing in Kassel. But then again, not every station was a central terminus in size either. Oldenburg BF had a smaller main building, much like yours but with, oh 5 platforms. (Okay it is a bit bigger in size.) So in your little neighborhood of brick, anything is possible! Big is always grandiose but small can be quaint. All my station designs fall under the later. But then again I have never built any of them either. Regarding the tunnel suggestion, let me elaborate a little more on it. My idea was that you could build the portals but they would be dead-ends. IE it is a decorative feature without the full functionality. I hope that make sense. If you are still confused, feel free to send me a PM auf Deutsch and I would be happy add some more clarification. 3D LEGO Quote
Meisterschnorrer Posted October 27, 2015 Author Posted October 27, 2015 Meisterschnorrer, Glad I could be of help. My apologies if anything I posted was a bit confusing. I am not sure how I failed to notice it but someone after me offered the suggestion. By cutting back on the number supports for the OCS, not only does it save you money but it does allow for other options, including more preferable ones. But that is all up to you. And of course the higher priorities too! One station I was thinking about that I know to be only a portion of the original is the Kassel HBF, of which I have have wandered through on numerous occasions while residing in Kassel. But then again, not every station was a central terminus in size either. Oldenburg BF had a smaller main building, much like yours but with, oh 5 platforms. (Okay it is a bit bigger in size.) So in your little neighborhood of brick, anything is possible! Big is always grandiose but small can be quaint. All my station designs fall under the later. But then again I have never built any of them either. Regarding the tunnel suggestion, let me elaborate a little more on it. My idea was that you could build the portals but they would be dead-ends. IE it is a decorative feature without the full functionality. I hope that make sense. If you are still confused, feel free to send me a PM auf Deutsch and I would be happy add some more clarification. 3D LEGO It´s ok. Confusing is not the right word....well, my english is a little bit rusty, and I will use Eurobricks to get back the skills I had in school. Regards René P.S.: You will get an PM... Quote
LEGO Train 12 Volts Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 What a great work ...I've totally miss this topic! Quote
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