Ayrlego Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) So last week I started building a small vessel for my free licence. Currently that 'small' Xebec is probably around a Class 5F... so fail!!! Then I saw Kurigan's superb Bumblebee and read his challenge. I decided that whilst I probably won't be inventing any ground breaking new techniques anytime soon, I'd set myself a challenge. Build a small brick built hull vessel I could licence for free, before the end of the month, with only pieces I have on hand (no Bricklink orders!). I have never attempted a brick built hull before, nor sails, nor rigging. The Saucy Gibbon is the result. Built and photographed over the last 2 nights after work, she is heavily influenced by the Bumblebee, although a seriously 'dumbed down' version. Light Bley is not the colour I would have chosen for my vessel, but was the only colour I had enough 2x2 tiles for! I had in mind to licence her as a Class 2F, although looking at some of the examples in the Ship Index I feel she may be a bit small? Any opinions? Anyway without further ado, here she is: During his brief stopover in Arlinsport, Dirk Allcock made a number of small investments. The rumours amongst his regiment were indeed true, Dirk had financed this expedition out of his own pocket. While his family is quite wealthy, Dirk realises that he must build his own income to finance further voyages of discovery. His first investment is the small sloop 'The Saucy Gibbon'. Owned and crewed by three brothers, The Saucy Gibbon is a fast little sloop used for trading runs. Her owners had fallen on hard times however, after their last three cargos of illicit sugar from LeBellan had to be dumped to avoid Olean customs vessels. Having met and assessed the brothers, Dirk bailed them out by paying off their creditors in return for a silent partnership in the vessel. He hopes this small investment will pay off, and that he can open new doors and opportunities for his new partners. Edited February 22, 2016 by Ayrlego Quote
Legostone Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Looks like a fast little ship:D I really like the smooth lines she has. You should be pretty safe registering this as a class 2F, considering that some of the class 2T ships (which are supposed to have a bigger cargo capacity) are a bit smaller than it. Nice background story too, I can never think about something like that:P Quote
Bregir Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 This is a beautiful little sloop, Ayrlego. (A sloop, since it only carries one jib.) The shaping of the hull is fantastic, as is the rigging, and I really like the shutters as a hatch. My only suggestion would be to raise the gaff and make the boom longer, so that the mainsail gets bigger. As to rating, I think it would be most accurate to register it as a class 1 F. Maybe you will be able to register it as a 2f, but I think 1f is more fitting. Quote
dr_spock Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Good looking small sloop. The green window shutters give it a nice splash of colour. You could add another jib to make it a small cutter. Pirate Ship MOC index has nice info graphic of each ship type based on masts and sails. Quote
Mike S Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Nicely done! As far as licensing, I would say it is very similar in class to KABEL's Pato Moreno. Quote
blackdeathgr Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 A nice smooth well designed vessel! Great creation and the idea of using the windows as hatch is clever Quote
Captain Genaro Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 A very nice, smooth, sleek build. The sails and rigging look well done, and I always like to see an active ship with its crew manning their stations. I do hope its new owners choose a more honorable career than smuggling, or they might earn a long, unpleasant stay in an Oleon prison. Quote
Ayrlego Posted February 22, 2016 Author Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) Thank you everyone for your comments. This is a beautiful little sloop, Ayrlego. (A sloop, since it only carries one jib.) The shaping of the hull is fantastic, as is the rigging, and I really like the shutters as a hatch. My only suggestion would be to raise the gaff and make the boom longer, so that the mainsail gets bigger. As to rating, I think it would be most accurate to register it as a class 1 F. Maybe you will be able to register it as a 2f, but I think 1f is more fitting. Thanks Bregir. I'll change the first post to reflect she is a sloop - Thanks for the correction, I know very little about sailing vessels - my experience is almost entirely in much larger, more modern vessels painted grey with big guns (upon which I have spent far too much time)!! In retrospect I agree with you on the mainsail. If I can undo everything without it all falling apart I might try making it bigger. I can't claim the shutters as a hatch as my idea, they are copied from the Bumblebee, although mine are bigger to try and represent a small cargo hold. Good looking small sloop. The green window shutters give it a nice splash of colour. You could add another jib to make it a small cutter. Pirate Ship MOC index has nice info graphic of each ship type based on masts and sails. Thanks Dr Spock, I've seen that great resouce before and I should have referenced it before I embarrassed myself with my lack of ship knowledge! I'll be sure to in the future!! Nicely done! As far as licensing, I would say it is very similar in class to KABEL's Pato Moreno. Thanks Mike, you're right and I agree with you and Bregir here. I have licensed her as a 1F. Edited February 22, 2016 by Ayrlego Quote
kurigan Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 Hey! Thanks for the mention. Glad to see I had an effect; that I could inspire. Sounds, for a moment there, that you’re down on Gibbon for being less refined than Bumblebee, but I don’t find that particularly valid. Yes certain parts of her are simplified over my own, but others seem to have gone a step farther than I did. For one thing you actually finished yours . You also bothered with a tiled deck which looks scads better and it appears your rudder an tiller actually function while mine are just props. I would love to see some detail shots; the underside and stern perhaps? I feel you on the color scheme but I think it works. Heck, mine only has the one pretty side for a lack colorful tiles. I like how you made square spars work with what appear to be 4081. They remind me of the metal fittings used on late 19th and 20th century ships. Thanks for sharing her and taking my challenge favorably. What are you gonna do next? Quote
Kolonialbeamter Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 Great to see shipbuilders influence each other. Lovely little vessel, instant like! As for classification, I would also say it'a a class 1F, although judging by the quality she would deserve more benefits Keep it up! Quote
Puvel Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 Ooh that is a very nice looking ship, great work! Quote
Kai NRG Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 Very nice boat - ahem. Ship. JK. The curve you have achieved is really sweet, and she looks really fast! Quote
Maxim I Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 Wow, almost managed to overlook this beauytifull vessel while updating my shipindex Indexed as Class 1 F (which is perfect!) Quote
Captain Dee Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 Very nice sloop apart from the small mainsail. The design is nice (nod to kurigan) and I like the colors. She's a very sleek and fast-looking vessel. Quote
Garmadon Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 Excellent sloop Ayrlego, great job with the hull shaping, and those sails and the hatch are quite nice as well! Quote
Ayrlego Posted February 22, 2016 Author Posted February 22, 2016 Again, thank you everybody for your comments! Kurigan, here are the requested detail shots. The square spars are indeed made using 4081, with a 87994 (Bar 3L) attaching them to the round 1 x 1 mast. The rudder does indeed function, I liked the way yours looked, especially the tiller, but I decided that as this vessel was from an earlier period the simplified version might be more appropriate. The underside is much the same as the Bumblebee, I think my hull is 4 studs (two 2x4 plate sections) longer. Attaching the two sides was.... well fun! I couldn't work you how you attached the front with what appears to be bars and clips. In the end I used an old hinge piece like in the picture below, which held it together nicely. Then clips and a bar were used to make the bow piece so that there wasn't a huge gap at the front. Hope these images help anyone else wanting to try this technique, thank you Kurigan for orignally sharing your detail shots! Without them I doubt Saucy Gibbon would have been possible!!! As for what's next, nothing too exciting, on the ship front I have two pre-built hull vessels to finish in Captain Green Hair style, one a 20-30 gun frigate and one Xebec. Wow, almost managed to overlook this beauytifull vessel while updating my shipindex Indexed as Class 1 F (which is perfect!) Thanks for indexing Maxim! Quote
Kwatchi Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Nice clean hull lines and a great sail/rigging set-up. Quote
kurigan Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Thanks for the detail images. Very telling indeed. I think you may have given yourself a bit of an extra headache. Bumblebee’s deck floats. The deck and sides are separate constructions. Pop either end apart and it’ll slide out. You seem to have attached everything fore and aft. I imagine that was a bit of a bare to fit. Though I can’t complain about the end result. I tried hinge pieces like that, even tried tighter grabbing knock-offs but everything just kept popping apart. Somehow 4 clips, staggered 2 to either side, held stronger. I wouldn’t be too worried about the short main sail, I just assumed it was left that way on purpose. This way the man at the tiller doesn’t have to worry about banging his head on the boom. Quote
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