Spanish admiral's yacht

[Dreamweb]

First a little quote from Wikipedia:

A yacht (From Dutch Jacht meaning "hunt") was originally defined as a light, fast sailing vessel used to convey important persons.

This is a rather small-sized MOC I've recently built. It's sort of a small ship the Spanish admiral uses for official and diplomatic purposes, that's why I think the above definition fits here.

I imagine it isn't used for long distance travels and never sails alone, but under protection from other, more powerful vessels. The crew consists just of the admiral and a few officers. The ship has one small cannon, which is used for salute rather than for combat.

Being a small ship, this MOC doesn't have many special features - but it does have a bed where the admiral can rest, and a desk where he can sit and write letters and orders for his fleet. :-) I'm especially happy about the design of the stern section.

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[Captain Roger]

I think that need a lot of improvement:

1st: That ship need cannons

2nd: That ship shouldn't have the string inside the sip, it should have the string in port and starboard

Well, I admit this is the first time I see a yacht and yachts probably haven't got cannons, but about the string....I think real yachs haven't the string inside the ship

[Mister Phes]

You built this just for me Mr Dreamweb?

But before we critcize the yacht for not having cannons we should realise that yachts are considered as liesure or sporting vessels and therefore cannons wouldn't be appropriate.

[El Bucanero]

Looks good, but captain roger has some strong valid points, it does need more cannons, for defense, the admiral needs to be safe when pirates attack(yachts had more cannons, I don't think it where sport vessels), Captain Roger the ''string''( I never knew it was called like that) is probarly inside the ship because Dreamweb has a lack of string, as you can see there is a normal short piece and a ladder, a long piece could be there too, but he hasn't got more, please tell me if I'm wrong :-)

Arrr

Mr Tiber

[Mister Phes]

I already said yachts don't have cannons!!!! Do we know what a yacht is?

[El Bucanero]

YES I KNOW AND THEY DO HAVE CANNONS!!! *skull*

[Khorne]

I think that it should be a bit smaller, than it would look more like a personal yacht than a warship without cannons. Also, I don't think that an admiral would go out in sea on a yacht, after all, he does have a capital ship at his disposal that is way more safe ;-) .

[Mister Phes]

Perhaps a "pinnace" would be more suitable for those waters back in the 17th century...

[El Bucanero]

Does somebody here has the POTC game????

[Admiral Starwind]

What i think he should have done and btw i love the sterncastle as that is the part of the ship i usually have troubles with. now where was i oh yes i think due to the nature of yachts you should have built the hull out of bricks to give it that angular cutting through the water like a knife that yacht and sailing ships bows are famous for because the lego huls are just too wide at the front and made for plowing through the water as opposed to slicing. BUT i still liked the fact you designed a ship without cannons because not every ship needs cannons. Plus if the ship were designed just right with the right type of sails it wouldn't need cannons as it could haul megablocks faster than anything pursuing it and to demonstrate this point i present a feat of canadian engineering which remained the fastest sailing ship on the sea for 20 years some call her the Bluenose II i just call her SCHEXAY http://www.greatexcursions.com/blogs/repor...99_M-703879.jpg

[SkaForHire]

First a little quote from Wikipedia:

A yacht (From Dutch Jacht meaning "hunt") was originally defined as a light, fast sailing vessel used to convey important persons.

This is a rather small-sized MOC I've recently built. It's sort of a small ship the Spanish admiral uses for official and diplomatic purposes, that's why I think the above definition fits here.

I imagine it isn't used for long distance travels and never sails alone, but under protection from other, more powerful vessels. The crew consists just of the admiral and a few officers. The ship has one small cannon, which is used for salute rather than for combat.

Being a small ship, this MOC doesn't have many special features - but it does have a bed where the admiral can rest, and a desk where he can sit and write letters and orders for his fleet. :-) I'm especially happy about the design of the stern section.

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I like it!

First of all i have to agree with some of the sentiments already listed. Not every ship needs cannon, or lots of cannon, you said it had one, i think that is enough. The rigging is fine, i am pretty sure there are vessels rigged similar to this, i remember seeing one in port once. they are usually smaller... like this ship. And in fact i was just over visiting my "real" collection at my moms house, and found a MOC that i did 5 years ago, i used the same type of rigging! lol only i think i had a long rigging piece instead of two seperate pieces... and even more scary, on another MOC i had that rope from the ninja sets draped over the stern like you do in this one! I really liked that by the way... anyway i also like that you use redbeard torsos to make more soldiers.... i wish i hat the hats to do so too! but anyway, this is a nice little vessle, and I like it. almost forgot about the owl... good use of that for the figure head!

[Berry Syedow]

Despite the shroud placing I like the ship. The blue and white color scheme is easy on the eyes (hard to go wrong). The bow is well made for including the hull piece while maintaining a sharp look. It probably would look better brick built. (IMHO) The ladder is strange in that I would think a royal yacht would have stairs, but it's just a minor complaint. I'm with Kohrine as far as an Admiral on a yacht goes...

Good work, Mr. Web!

2nd: That ship shouldn't have the string inside the ship, it should have the string in port and starboard.

Cap'n Roger, the correct term is shroud. Thank goodness for the wikipedia! *pirate*

[Captain Roger]

Thanks berry. For a spanish guy like me, knowing some terms is hard.

[SuvieD]

Deck railings and perhaps some supplys tied down on deck would add some color and style to this little ship.

A very nice build though, and perfect for quick sailing. No cannons needed!

[Dreamweb]

That ship need cannons

it does need more cannons, for defense, the admiral needs to be safe when pirates attack(yachts had more cannons, I don't think it where sport vessels), Captain Roger the ''string''( I never knew it was called like that) is probarly inside the ship because Dreamweb has a lack of string, as you can see there is a normal short piece and a ladder, a long piece could be there too, but he hasn't got more, please tell me if I'm wrong :-)

I don't think that an admiral would go out in sea on a yacht, after all, he does have a capital ship at his disposal that is way more safe ;-) .

From what you wrote, it looks like you haven't read my initial post or haven't understood it... I'll try to make myself more clear this time:

This ship is not supposed to sail on its own. And it is not supposed to go to sea, I mean, REAL sea, like the middle of the ocean or something. It is supposed to travel short distances, between the ports of Spain or even inside the ports. I imagined it to be something like a 17th or 18th century limousine. Nowadays, VIPs travel in limousines if they want to show themselves to the public. Same with this ship. VIPs' cars are protected by armed escort. Same with this ship. So as you can see it doesn't need cannons anymore than a fishing boat does. ;-)

Now, about the rigging. I used one because I wanted to save the rest for the bigger ships I'm yet about to build. Also, it's placed just like in the Carribean Clipper and I've never heard anyone complain about it in that set. Except I used a short piece and a ladder - and that's just because the long piece was too long for the mast, and the short piece was too short. And I don't think it's "shroud" in this case - most Lego ships, sets and MOCs, are missing 90% of the real rigging anyway, so there's no real shroud here. This is just a "ladder" used to climb up to the crow's nest, sorry, don't know the word.

Perhaps a "pinnace" would be more suitable for those waters back in the 17th century...

Perhaps, actually I used the word "yacht" just because I couldn't find a suitable name for the ship, and I liked that wikipedia definition I quoted earlier - it fitted what I imagined this ship to be.

Thanks for all your comments!

[ghoulrealm]

Perhaps, actually I used the word "yacht" just because I couldn't find a suitable name for the ship, and I liked that wikipedia definition I quoted earlier - it fitted what I imagined this ship to be.

I believe yacht to be an apopriote term for for what you are going for here.

As for armements, It would likley have been gunned, unless it only sails well gaurded waters (it's your choice anyway).

And for the moc work, I really like what you done here! I would just add white, dark grey, or black 1stud wide plates all along the outer edge as railing caps and try to give the sides decorative details as on this royal yacht

Maybe you could use flex hose for railings (the pod racer lines used to to connect the engines to the pods)

[El Bucanero]

A pinnace is not like a yacht

this is a pinnace:

It has got 24 cannons *pirate*

Arrr

Mr Tiber

[Dreamweb]

OK, so it remains a yacht then... :-)

And yes, it is supposed to mostly sail guarded waters.

[El Bucanero]

OK, so it remains a yacht then... :-)

And yes, it is supposed to mostly sail guarded waters.

Ah right, well I think it doesn't needs cannons for combat then, but like Khorne mentioned before, why would an admiral sail in a yacht if he has a big capital ship...

[Dreamweb]

For leisure? Or perhaps to sail in shallow, nearshore waters where a big ship wouldn't make it? Or to sail in gulfs, bays or even rivers? Once again - this ship's function is mainly representative - it's like an 18th century limo. And don't worry - you'll see the admiral's flagship, as my signature suggests, this isn't my last Spanish MOC. ;-)

[El Bucanero]

Ah I'm sorry mate, I'm not trying to rush you or something, love too see your'e spanish flagship, could you already say what type it is going to be? (galleon, pinnace, frigate etc) ?

[Dreamweb]

I don't like talking too much about work in progress, because there's always a chance it won't be finished or something... But I think it'll end up as a frigate. I'll let all af you know as soon as it's finished.