Lasse D Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) FAW Jiefand 6x2 from Post #8 Evolution of coupling mechanisms from Post #19 40ft container trailer from Post #32 FAW Jiefang simple version from Post #35 Container crane from Post #36 FAW Jiefang simple and robust version from Post #45 Scania R340 4x2 Highline from Post #60 20ft container trailer from Post #127 20ft container from Post #131 Scania R-series Topline from Post #174 Updating the Scania R-series 4x2 Highline from Post #183 MAN TGS 8x4 Cement Mixer from Post #183 Volvo FM 8x2 Container Transport from Post #233 For every creation I present there are a lot of ideas that never get shown. I will use this thread to show my latest WIPs, ideas and prototypes of Model Team creations, which typically means trucks with Power Functions. Feel free to chime in with comments, ideas and critique. Edited July 25, 2015 by Lasse D Quote
dikkie klijn Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 Eh... A dark red truck with lime green details? My first guess would be some sort of MAN. Looking good so far . Quote
timslegos Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 I am going to guess some type of Scania truck? Are the rims for the truck custom painted? because they look really cool with the trucks color scheme. Looks amazing so far! tim Quote
DLuders Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 It kind of looks like the one below -- is it an American Freightliner? Quote
AndroTech Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 Based from the lights, I would say it's a DAF. Quote
Lasse D Posted August 3, 2011 Author Posted August 3, 2011 (edited) Content of first post by me Right now I'm building a 6x2 truck. The steering motor controls additional functions. When the steering is locked to one side, the power is transferred to the coupling, but I have added an additional function. The middle wheels lift when the coupling is disengaged, but I'm not yet satisfied with it. There is not enough power to lift it properly. Besides, steering normally will make the wheels move too. There is an additional problem that the frame isn't stable and bends upwards a little. I'm sure I will find a solution eventually, but this is the progress I have so far. Content of second post by me No right guesses yet. Hint: I only build one truck of each maker. Here is my current collection. I might have found a solution to one of the problems. I will try it out tonight and perhaps make renderers of the mechanisms for you guys to see (if I get the time). Edited August 14, 2012 by Lasse D Quote
AndroTech Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 My second gues is MB Actros, or should I say, New Actros? Quote
Lasse D Posted August 4, 2011 Author Posted August 4, 2011 (edited) Actually. I have built an Actros, but it has not been revealed here yet. Now to the mechanism. Power is transferred by the diff from the M-motor. The red route controls the coupling, while the green uses the pink handle to lift the middle pair of wheels. For the green line I'm relying on the clutch toward the motor has more friction than the one toward the rear. Unfortunately the system is limited by the red route which only allows for about 20 degrees of rotation, which is too little to run the green line. I'm looking at an alternate way that only uses the red line with some different clutches, but feel free to present your own ideas :) Edited August 1, 2012 by Lasse D Quote
Alasdair Ryan Posted August 4, 2011 Posted August 4, 2011 A gear box would be best i think you could make a 3 funtion one: lift axles,unhitching,stearing/drive. Have you tryed the other clutch gears? now you said you are having trubble with the grean line what about gearing it up or somehow making more friction by some kind of weight? then gearing it up or down Quote
Lasse D Posted August 4, 2011 Author Posted August 4, 2011 Yes. The M motor powers all 3 functions without any gearbox or external shifter. I have just built a new version where the red part is geared down by 3, the coupling uses a clutch and the middle wheels are lifted without clutch. The green part is stationary and it seems to work! I had to do some voodoo tricks in order to make the coupling work, but it's all legal. I expect to post pictures once it's light again (I have to use a very old camera since my new one broke down). Quote
Bricksonwheels Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Great work Lasse, i really like your engineering ideas Quote
Lasse D Posted August 5, 2011 Author Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) Thanks. I'm all about those mechanical details in as little space as possible. I am going to guess some type of Scania truck? Are the rims for the truck custom painted? because they look really cool with the trucks color scheme. Looks amazing so far! tim Forgot this comment. The rims are from the two large republic gunships that LEGO has released. The front wheels are from the old one which used the rims made for Model Team, while a thin tire separates the rear wheels which are mounted on the new rims which aren't made for Model Team tires. Front: Rear: between I never paint my bricks ;) Now back to the new unknown truck. I have updated the mechanism as mentioned: YELLOW: Steering. When the steering blocks, the power is transferred to the rest (red). RED: Geared down by 3 compared to last time. The clutch mechanism has moved to the coupling itself so the green mechanism can move even when the red is blocked. GREEN: New mechanism to lift the middle axle. The added torque and angle of movement makes this part work, finally! And for those who still want to guess what I'm building, I have a little more of the front now. Now I have to find a smart way of making the battery box easy to replace once the cab is built. I have made a very simple way of doing this with my cement truck, which I can show later. Edited August 1, 2012 by Lasse D Quote
Alasdair Ryan Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) Its a renault. It looks great,i must try my hand at building a 'model team truck' some time. Looking at the setup i guess the lifting and lowering of the second axle works by the conecting of the trailer.? Edited August 5, 2011 by Alasdair Ryan Quote
Rijkvv Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 But he already built a Renault. Nice work so far Lasse. The coupling mechanism reminds me of the coupling in 8872, although this looks (and from the pics I think it works) different. Quote
GuiliuG Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 And why can't he build a new one ? I find your creations beautiful and very ingenious, Lasse D ! Quote
Lasse D Posted August 7, 2011 Author Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) Thank you. It is my own rule that I will only build one truck of every maker in order to ensure variety. This particular truck, however, will be made in two versions: The one I'm working on now and a simple version that is much tougher and easy to build using instructions. But he already built a Renault. Nice work so far Lasse. The coupling mechanism reminds me of the coupling in 8872, although this looks (and from the pics I think it works) different. Good call Richie. 8872 was the truck that led me to improve the coupling system over time. History time! (Click on the pictures for the complete galleries) Back before 2003 I used the simple turntable from 5580 and 5590 as the fifth wheel. The police truck from back then took it a step further and allowed an x-axle from the trailer to turn the truck. This was "Type 1": My "Mini truck" back then did not allow for steering from the trailer. Type 2 was a system inspired by 8872 which allowed for automatic coupling that locked. It was a simple system where an x-axle would go into the tilting clutch. This system was compatible with the old one, but not easy to use. This was in 2003. I quickly got tired of the difficulty of using this system because of the precision required. System 3 allowed for a larger knob on the trailer and was thus much easier to use. This system still used a tilting part on the truck and pretty much a copy of what you see on 8872. I used this system from 2003 to until 2009. In 2008 I changed to coupling system type 4 which is the one I use today. It allows for an even larger knob (2x2 round brick) and is more reliable than previous version by simply having a latch. Here is the Mini truck from 2009: The police truck is now my Scania which uses a compatible variant of the same system. And a bonus. The youtube video showing system 4 in action: Edited August 11, 2011 by Lasse D Quote
Lasse D Posted August 9, 2011 Author Posted August 9, 2011 (edited) And back to the FAW Jiefang. I have now completed the first iteration of the truck. Now it's time to see how it hold up and where to improve it before ordering the missing parts (dark red cheese). It is supposed to be a container transport, so I have to build a 40ft. trailer for it. I already have a small trailer for a 20ft. container. Instructions: http://c-mt.dk/instructions/models_trailer-ContainerTrailerSmall.htm The leg of this trailer is manually operated. The 40ft. trailer should have an automatic leg where the leg goes down when the rear bumper is pushed. In other words. It's ideas time! Edited October 21, 2016 by Lasse D Quote
Alasdair Ryan Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 (edited) May i ask what you use for your windscreen?(on your new truck) Edited August 9, 2011 by Alasdair Ryan Quote
Lasse D Posted August 9, 2011 Author Posted August 9, 2011 May i ask what you use for your windscreen?(on your new truck) The one from the UCS Imperial Shuttle and Grand Emporium. It is a re-release of the 12x2x4 windscreen from the later Model Team models such as Black Cat. Quote
Ricecracker Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Very impressive, Lasse. Is the truck a Sino? Are you going to make the trailer extendable, or a fixed length? Quote
Alasdair Ryan Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 (edited) Very impressive, Lasse. Is the truck a Sino? Hino? which is owned by toyota (which makes them very reliable) any way back to the lego. Edited August 9, 2011 by Alasdair Ryan Quote
Ricecracker Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Hino? which is owned by toyota (which makes them very reliable) any way back to the lego. No, I'm talking about Sino. Quote
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