PetrXP Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 information about the new Bluetooth receiver for Power Functions system can be found on this website Quote
DLuders Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) This device could allow more precise control of Lego Power Functions motors. It would work well outdoors (where the sun's bright light can interfere with the PF Infrared Controller's signals). "Info ■3 proportional connectors ■5 non proportional connectors ■1 electricity connector ■gyrosensor +/-2G ■dimensions 11x6x3 holes ■micro USB B ■on/off button ■LED diod ■electricity 9V ■range 10 meters ■Bluetooth 4.0 ■2 year warranty ■compatible with Power Functions connectors ■smartphone is not included" "Connectors UPCORE G1 has 9 connectors to control your brick creations and models. 3 connectors are fully proportional, you can regulate your supply motors M-motors, XL-motors, LEDs and other appliances in the range 0-100%. 5 connectors is non proportional, these connectors can control their creations as well as with non proportional control Power Functions. And the last connector is used to power the UPCORE G1 (from the battery box). UPCORE G1 connectable with Power Function connectors. Power UPCORE G1 is used to power the 9th special connector. Can be used to power a standard 9V source: 8881 LEGO® Power Functions battery box, 88000 LEGO® Power Functions Battery Box AAA or 8878 LEGO® Power Functions Rechargeable Battery Box and older sources, if you use the 8886 LEGO® Power Functions Extension Wire or 8871 LEGO® Power Functions Extension Wire. 9th connector has reverse polarity protection. Current is 1A (amper). Maximum load is 16V (volt). Gyrosensor +/-2G Gyrosensor +/-2G - gyroscope, used to detect collisions, falls, blows, hits a shot and tilt axis XYZ. For example. Gyroscope can provide feedback on off-road driving. Using the driver (smartphone, tablet, netboook) can simulate the function of damage to the axle or rolling off the tires. Or. The driver can simulate the function of car bodywork damage during the "Brick cars destruction derby ." Micro USB B UPCORE G1 has installed micro USB type B for repair and uploading firmware. When you connect your computer and UPCORE G1, UPCORE G1 is used as a USB flash disk, you can upload and change the firmware. On/off button Turns on and off the UPCORE G1. The button also serves as a command to reset the UPCORE G1. LED LED used to indicate: power on / off, searching drivers, low battery status, signal loss, hardware failure. Range UPCORE G1 range is normally up to 10 meters, but the range of control can be even greater if your driver will have Bluetooth class 1 with a range of 100 meters. UPCORE G1 communication is not unlike the Power Functions IR technology disturbed sun or reflection of light snow or water. Bluetooth signal is only disturbed by metallic surfaces." Edited July 10, 2012 by DLuders Quote
dhc6twinotter Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 That's really cool. Does it come with any software? How does the whole gui part of it work? Quote
Rodeown Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 information about the new Bluetooth receiver for Power Functions system can be found on this website I just tried to purchase one, sadly not yet available, hopefully we will find out when available. I am a little excited over this if it does what it says on the box. Quote
kieran Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 Yep, that looks like a nice bit of kit. not a bad price form the looks of it Quote
timslegos Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 Looks pretty awesome! I hope it works as well as the description. tim Quote
Saberwing40k Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 I could have sworn that there was an earlier version with an integrated battery pack. Oh yeah, it's right here. It looks cool, but it be very expensive. Plus, proportional control with a touchscreen is going to be a pain in the behind Quote
Cwetqo Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 Nice. Kind of what i hoped nxt would be. On the other side, i wonder if upcoming next years new nxt system (red brick) will have pf compatible motors and still keep bluetooth compatibility. Quote
freakwave Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 Nice thing! Lot's of interfaces which is good for large scale technic MOCs. Leaving out the battery is a good idea in my opinion as it keeps the form-factor small and it is up to the user to decide which one to take. On the other hand I would like to see a smaller one having the usual two outputs. Like to have trains controlled with something else then IR. The price, well I think it is not too much out of range. BT receivers are not that cheap, around 20 EUR, compared to other receivers in the 433MHz or 866Hz band which are a fraction only. But BT offers the convenience of having an interface at each and every phone. (nearly) I am thinking of putting some 866MHz receiver and a very small processor into the IR Receiver to "emulate" the PF-Protocol, another idea, but not too much time unfortunately! BTW: Red NXT? me getting curious... Quote
andythenorth Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 How many XL motors can simultaneously be driven from one proportional output? How many PF (AA) battery boxes can be connected at once? (Is there any benefit to more batteries with large numbers of motors?) Quote
Conchas Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 How many XL motors can simultaneously be driven from one proportional output? How many PF (AA) battery boxes can be connected at once? (Is there any benefit to more batteries with large numbers of motors?) No, because the input is limited to 1A and the unit is also protected agains overload. 2 PF XL-motors. Don't know it they can be stacked on the same port though. Quote
PetrXP Posted July 11, 2012 Author Posted July 11, 2012 I could have sworn that there was an earlier version with an integrated battery pack. Oh yeah, it's right here. It looks cool, but it be very expensive. Plus, proportional control with a touchscreen is going to be a pain in the behind You'll be able to enter a proportional value using a plus and minus signs, or by using the numerical keypad Quote
PetrXP Posted July 14, 2012 Author Posted July 14, 2012 No, because the input is limited to 1A and the unit is also protected agains overload. 2 PF XL-motors. Don't know it they can be stacked on the same port though. 2 connectors are jointly return the fuse, which can carry a little more than 1 A Quote
Moz Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 No, because the input is limited to 1A and the unit is also protected agains overload. This is something I really, really hope they change. Having 10+ outputs but only being able to run one or two motors at a time will get quite frustrating. Even 2A would be better, 5A ideal. The 6AA battery would cope, I think, but you might have to parallel up a few sets of wires at 5A. I wouldn't be surprised if the reason they haven't done it is that the current TLG LiIon pack can only put out 1A. Gutting a 6AA pack to make a LiIon pack is doable, but the 3S limit and central partition makes it annoying to fit the 3 cells in. The big win with this device is the 16V limit allowing you to put 4 LiIon cells in so the central partition wouldn't be a problem. It makes me wonder if we'd be better off with fewer outputs on a smaller device, even though the cost saving would be small. That way people with larger models could run more than one controller (one in the body, one in the turret, for example). I suspect that it would just involve changing the input regulator in the device, so hopefully that's something they will do. It would only cost a few cents extra. Quote
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