Mafia After Dark - Day 3: 25th Hour

[Tamamono]

Players only, please!

August 25th, 2005

New Brickland, Florida

8:24 A.M.

Later that morning, the local authorities fish the bloated body of Byron out of the bay.

The oily coast guard officer runs around frantically, looking into the water to see if there are any more corpses to collect, while the motorcycle cop who was called here for seemingly no reason hides her disgust behind a pair of shades.

Of course, why wouldn't she be disgusted? Byron's dead eyes seem to stare into your soul, his mouth poised, ready to, at any minute, yell "Poof!"

Examining the hat, Sheriff McKenzie wrinkles his eyebrows.

"The sixth murder in a week... What could be going on here?"

~~~

If only he knew...

The Family

Tam Malone - The Malone's Godfather; husband of Adelaide, brother of Kristina and Colin. - NPC

Bernard W. Malone - Retired; father of Tam, Kristina, and Colin - played by TheBoyWonder

Adelaide Malone - Wife of Tam - Played by Adam

Kristina Malone - Business major; little sister of Tam and Colin. - Played by Kristel

Colin Malone - Brother of Tam and Kristina - played by CorneliusMurdock

Cebastian Lillium - Party "Boy"; father of Patricia, brother of Adelaide - played by Cecilie

Patricia Lillium - Lovely Assistant to The Great Byron; son of Cebastian - played by Pandora

The Associates

Doğukan Akbulut - The Malone family's tailor - played by Dragonator

Jamie Neville - The Malone family's publicist - played by jamesn

Terrence Knox - The Malone family's lawyer - played by Trumpetking

Peter Nuccitelli - The Malone family's accountant - played by Peanuts

Priscilla Jenkins - Peter's secretary - played by Purpearljellyblob

The Employees

Candy Nelson - Escort - played by Captain Nemo

Cap'n Rolfe - Extravagent Gentleman - played by Capt. Redblade

Officer Penelope Talbott - Corrupt cop - played by Palathadric

Dexter Fairbanks - Enforcer - played by def

The Deceased

The Cat in the Hat - NPC: Pulled out of a hat Night 1 - Cat

Donny Dragonov - played by Darkdragon: Crushed by a billboard Day 1 - Malone

Shane Donalds - played by Shadows: Axed in the back Night 2 - ???

The Great Byron - played by Bob: Swimming with the fishes Night 2 - ???

Day Rules

1. All Night rules apply here, unless otherwise stated.

2. There will be no voting during the Day Phase.

3. After 24 hours, an interlude will be posted, where any kills that happen during the Day Phase will take place. Results of any actions performed during the Day Phase will also be reported to you privately around the same time as this interlude.

4. Stay tuned for unique opportunities during the Day Phase...

[Kristel]

No messages from Tam, so I guess I am free to talk as much as I want. First though, I need to get through today's lectures without falling asleep.

Why does my big brother keep us to these odd hours?

[Cecilie]

Why does my big brother keep us to these odd hours?

I hear sleep deprivation can make people go mental, maybe that's his goal?

[def]

Post in the day thread

[Captain Nemo]

Well I'm here this morning--guess nobody can keep this gal's mouth closed!

[Peanuts]

I'm here, and able to talk. When I'm not too busy with my day job as accountant. You young kids may be used to being up all night, but I'm not.

[Kristel]

I was doing my notes for the previous night, when Post 99 caught my attention, particularly this bit:

... I find it very strange that Kristina had such a bone to pick with the late Shane, and now he turns up dead ...

This is the only time I've mentioned Shane (post 21) over the last couple of days and nights:

Our discussions so far today do seem a little inconsequential. Interesting to note, as Jamie did, that Shane's comments tonight has driven the conversation. Similarly, the discussion around policy lynching on Night 1 started with Shane's comments about there not being much to do until we can some night action results.

Care to explain how this translates into "had such a bone to pick"? I've barely given him a second thought after that post.

[jimmynick]

Maybe he's sowing confusion, like scum tend to do?

Given the situation now is much the same as it was just before daybreak, I'm going to have a nap.

[def]

Maybe he's sowing confusion, like scum tend to do?

Given the situation now is much the same as it was just before daybreak, I'm going to have a nap.

Assuming we have an investigator, I think Dogun is a great choice today. I hate to meta-game (well, honestly, I love it ), but him and Shane have been linked at the hip for multiple lifetimes. The death of one can often have a connection to the other, in that they are on unrecruitable opposing sides. I would feel better having Dogun cleared as town.

[CorneliusMurdock]

Assuming we have an investigator, I think Dogun is a great choice today. I hate to meta-game (well, honestly, I love it ), but him and Shane have been linked at the hip for multiple lifetimes. The death of one can often have a connection to the other, in that they are on unrecruitable opposing sides. I would feel better having Dogun cleared as town.

That's not a bad idea, either. It'll be tonight when we know for sure about Shane one way or the other. Might as well know someone he'd be sure to associate with as well.

[Capt. Redblade]

I third this motion. We need answers and we need 'em bad.

[Pandora]

It was nice of Dogukan (sod the accent) to turn up yesterday and basically say he said nothing because he has nothing to say. Still saying nothing. That and saying Kristina was "framing" him. I don't see how, and Dogukan didn't bother to elaborate.

There was a suggestion that surely if he were scum his team would be encouraging him to say something, but that assumes he'd even be around to hear his team trying to encourage him. And then we have this:

Assuming we have an investigator, I think Dogun is a great choice today. I hate to meta-game (well, honestly, I love it ), but him and Shane have been linked at the hip for multiple lifetimes. The death of one can often have a connection to the other, in that they are on unrecruitable opposing sides. I would feel better having Dogun cleared as town.

That's not a bad idea, either. It'll be tonight when we know for sure about Shane one way or the other. Might as well know someone he'd be sure to associate with as well.

I third this motion. We need answers and we need 'em bad.

Three people all in a row softly suggesting, in public no less, what a great idea it would be for the investigator to investigate a specific person. A specific person who, if they are scum, would then be ripe for tailoring or any other form of result corruption, or (should the scum have a watcher) be a useful way for the scum to discover the investigator. I cannot think of a worse idea. I'm surprised considering these are people who've been keen on lynching in the past, and now they seem to be calling for clemency for someone who's done bugger all to help, and may even be setting in motion a way for him to be "cleared". If it's suggested so publicly and the result is "Ferrari" then does that mean tomorrow you cry "He was framed!" because it was discussed so publicly?

Right now, without the benefit of any information we'll get when the night starts, frankly I'd be keen to just lynch Dogukan tonight. He turned up, he didn't help, he didn't defend, he did nothing. Dexter (I think you referred to "the Town" Dex, and not "us"?) says we should talk about lynches early, so why not now?

[def]

You assume a lawyer exists to clear Dogukan, and there is a chance, but it's not that common a role. As for speaking publicly, I would say it in private, but, well, rules, you know. From now on, would you be happier if we don't have public opinions? Just let the scum do as they please and not bother coordinating at all?

Your whole thing is a little confusing, really. If he comes up town, you think I/we will claim him framed and try to lynch him (because the three of us are publicly coordinating scum?). Your suggestion then is to simply lynch him, which is better how?

I know how you want to vote today, I'm still undecided. I really want to know Byron's was town or scum, or other.

[Kristel]

...

Right now, without the benefit of any information we'll get when the night starts, frankly I'd be keen to just lynch Dogukan tonight. He turned up, he didn't help, he didn't defend, he did nothing. Dexter (I think you referred to "the Town" Dex, and not "us"?) says we should talk about lynches early, so why not now?

Pretty much "ditto" to everything that Patricia has just said. Don't waste an investigation on him - Dogukan has to be lynched tomorrow night.

Dogukan isn't going to come back and explain himself because he knows that the only way he can explain that I had a bone to pick with Shane is by revealing that he is scum.

Here it goes.

I'm the Malone's Communications Expert, which means that I can choose people to open PM communications with. I've been talking to two people: Shane and Person A. Person A knew I was talking to Shane, but I never mentioned Person A to Shane. I did have quite a bone to pick with Shane because I was pretty sure he was scum once I had started communicating with him. But all of this happened in PMs between myself and Shane. Other than that minor poke quoted above, I never mentioned Shane or my suspicions about him here. It was mentioned to Person A via PM, so they also knew.

The only way that Dogukan would know that I had a bone to pick with Shane is if either Shane or Person A told him. Since this didn't happen in-thread, it must have been via PM. Unless we have two Comms Experts (unlikely?), the only other behind the scenes communications that would be happening right now are those between the scum.

Person A shall remain anonymous because I'd like to believe they are town. They have also indicated they are the protector and that they would protect me. Forgive my cynicism, Person A, but we'll see if I am still around for the start of Night 3.

[jimmynick]

So we see how Shane flips, and if he's scum, we should go after Person A?

[TrumpetKing]

Sorry I've been so quiet, I haven't had a lot of internet access.

Kristina's claim is very interesting, and it accounts for the "unless granted special exceptions" part of the rules.I'm willing to trust her claim right now, and that means Dogukan will be the essential lynch for tomorrow, especially if Shane really does show up as a Ferrari. Though it is interesting to note that Kristina has found an apparent scum and a protector in two days. That's the only thing that strikes me as weird, but it could have easily be lucky guessing.

So we see how Shane flips, and if he's scum, we should go after Person A?

What? Person A claimed protector, and Kristina believes them to be town, so why would we lynch them?

[Palathadric]

What? Person A claimed protector, and Kristina believes them to be town, so why would we lynch them?

Because one of them appears to be twatting to Dogukan and only scum would be allowed to talk to one another, presumably (obviously Kristina would be an exception). If Shane was town, he could not have been the one twatting, so it would have had to have been person A.

I would support a lynch of Dogukan.

[Kristel]

So we see how Shane flips, and if he's scum, we should go after Person A?

No. If Shane flips town, then Person A is the one talking to Dogukan and most likely also scum. If Shane flips scum, then Person A's allegiance is still not confirmed. As I said before, I think person A is town. I don't actually know whether I'm right or not.

Kristina's claim is very interesting, and it accounts for the "unless granted special exceptions" part of the rules.I'm willing to trust her claim right now, and that means Dogukan will be the essential lynch for tomorrow, especially if Shane really does show up as a Ferrari. Though it is interesting to note that Kristina has found an apparent scum and a protector in two days. That's the only thing that strikes me as weird, but it could have easily be lucky guessing.

I find it hard to believe that I would be so lucky as well. Hence the cynicism that I mentioned in the last paragraph.

[jimmynick]

What? Person A claimed protector, and Kristina believes them to be town, so why would we lynch them?

Because Person A was obviously talking to Shane, and if Shane is scum, it's almost certain Person A is BSing Kristina about being the protector.

Oops. Cross-post with Kristina. Let's trust her judgment for now. There's no reason to doubt her.

[def]

Well, this gives us a lot to go on Night 3. Kristina, I hope you're right about having a protector, since you're a very important tool for the town

[Pandora]

You assume a lawyer exists to clear Dogukan, and there is a chance, but it's not that common a role. As for speaking publicly, I would say it in private, but, well, rules, you know. From now on, would you be happier if we don't have public opinions? Just let the scum do as they please and not bother coordinating at all?

Your whole thing is a little confusing, really. If he comes up town, you think I/we will claim him framed and try to lynch him (because the three of us are publicly coordinating scum?). Your suggestion then is to simply lynch him, which is better how?

I know how you want to vote today, I'm still undecided. I really want to know Byron's was town or scum, or other.

I said nothing of a lawyer. I was talking about tailors (the role, not the occupation), framers and watchers, and they aren't as uncommon as you suggest. And I'm all for sharing opinions publicly, but suggesting a specific role performs a specific action appears to me to be an attempt to manipulate. The fact that three people in a row, who had all been previously railing at us over lynching and talking, suddenly come along and say "oh hey, let's just investigate, I'm sure we'll find someone else to lynch" seems remarkably odd to me. I have no doubt you'll disagree. You may find it all confusing, but the suggestion is quite clear and other people seem to understand.

And to further clarify where you seem to have misunderstood, I said that without the benefit of information we'll get at the start of the night, and because of Dogukan and your actions, I'm finding Dogukan extremely suspicious and unless there's a good reason to lynch someone else he would be my choice. What was that you said about voicing opinions? I'm just voicing mine.

And I too am interested to see whether Byr-Byr turns up scum. I'm also interested in whether Shane turns up scum - is that not something you're interested in, or do you already know?

..... twatting ..... twatting......

Eh?

[Palathadric]

You assume a lawyer exists to clear Dogukan, and there is a chance, but it's not that common a role. As for speaking publicly, I would say it in private, but, well, rules, you know. From now on, would you be happier if we don't have public opinions? Just let the scum do as they please and not bother coordinating at all?

Your whole thing is a little confusing, really. If he comes up town, you think I/we will claim him framed and try to lynch him (because the three of us are publicly coordinating scum?). Your suggestion then is to simply lynch him, which is better how?

I know how you want to vote today, I'm still undecided. I really want to know Byron's was town or scum, or other.

Considering that we aren't allowed to communicate privately, to me it would seem like a real waste to investigate Dogukan and have the investigator out himself publicly. Furthermore, as stated by Patricia, there is a lot of not good things that can happen when people start trying to tell the investigator whom he should look into, etc.

Kristina's tale seems a bit convenient, but she has done little to throw me on her trail before now, and I'd certainly trust her over Dogukan any day.

[jimmynick]

Penelope can join Colin in the "Glorious Typo" club!

[Palathadric]

No. If Shane flips town, then Person A is the one talking to Dogukan and most likely also scum. If Shane flips scum, then Person A's allegiance is still not confirmed. As I said before, I think person A is town. I don't actually know whether I'm right or not.

Oops, misheard what Jamie said.

Eh?

From Twatty Twittle...whatever who twatted a lot.

[def]

I said nothing of a lawyer. I was talking about tailors (the role, not the occupation), framers and watchers, and they aren't as uncommon as you suggest. And I'm all for sharing opinions publicly, but suggesting a specific role performs a specific action appears to me to be an attempt to manipulate. The fact that three people in a row, who had all been previously railing at us over lynching and talking, suddenly come along and say "oh hey, let's just investigate, I'm sure we'll find someone else to lynch" seems remarkably odd to me. I have no doubt you'll disagree. You may find it all confusing, but the suggestion is quite clear and other people seem to understand.

A framer is not going to make a scum appear town. They do the opposite. Watchers do not make them appear town either. A lawyer or tailor could. Those two roles certainly are less common. And nobody said they'll find anybody else to lynch, but fair enough, Colin or Rolfe could be playing up that angle if they were scum aligned with Dogukan.

And to further clarify where you seem to have misunderstood, I said that without the benefit of information we'll get at the start of the night, and because of Dogukan and your actions, I'm finding Dogukan extremely suspicious and unless there's a good reason to lynch someone else he would be my choice. What was that you said about voicing opinions? I'm just voicing mine.

I never complained about you voicing opinions. I think it's a healthy idea. You complained about me voicing mine though. Nice how you tried to turn that around on me though

And I too am interested to see whether Byr-Byr turns up scum. I'm also interested in whether Shane turns up scum - is that not something you're interested in, or do you already know?

I am willing to assume the kill on Shane was SK or vig, based on the timing, unless Tam is greatly breaking from tradition. So, Bryon would tell us a lot about the votes and will make a huge difference if he comes up scum (not that you'd care, you've already decided on Dokugan). Shane, at the time of writing what you quoted, wouldn't have told us all that much, assuming he was a vig or SK kill. With the information Kristina has given, it will tell us something.

You're turning into quite the niggler, I hope you're not leading us down some rabbithole.

Considering that we aren't allowed to communicate privately, to me it would seem like a real waste to investigate Dogukan and have the investigator out himself publicly. Furthermore, as stated by Patricia, there is a lot of not good things that can happen when people start trying to tell the investigator whom he should look into, etc.

Yes, and you know what? The investigator may as well not bother investigating until they get in that PM loop, since if they find scum, they would have to out themselves

Anyway, I'm done squabbling and being niggled with for now. You folks seem to know how to do it all, so I'll wait until the moon comes out, and we have actual concrete information before weighing in again