Tamamono Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Players only, please! August 27th, 2005 New Brickland, Florida 11:05 P.M. After the tragic loss of the family's former patriarch, the remaining family gathers in front of the Great Brickland Pizzeria once again. As usual, their silly antics weren't stopping - even with the tragic situation at hand. Finally having given up on the opposite sex, Cebastian was attempting to make love to his convertible, which he had named Amelia. "Oh, Amelia, you're so smooth!" he moans as he rubs his hands all over the car's hood." "Go to hell, you filthy youth!" yells Peter, "Back in my day, we had perfectly good animals to take out our excess urges on!" Candy just stands by, slightly bored. Doing things to a car is nothing new to her. Meanwhile, Terrence has to listen to Kristina ramble about how much good the mafia is for the city. Has she not seen the megablocking mountain of corpses the last few days? Poor Terrence has had enough of listening to this crazy woman. Behind them, as usual, Colin writhes around on the ground, terrified of the light. Penny doesn't really know what to make of this crazy brainless megablock. Noticing that their patriarch has arrived, the family members all turn their attention to Tam. This is remarkably like several nights ago - except with ten less people. "Well, you did a good job last night! I always knew you could do it. Dexter Fairbanks, my "loyal" enforcer, was actually a Ferrari." "However, this is no excuse to get cocky!" he says firmly, "Both Cap'n Rolfe and dad - Bernard - were loyal Malones! We may have struck a decisive blow to our enemies, but there are so precious few of us left - I fear that we must continue to stay on the offensive in order to stay alive! Now, my family, go forth and find me another fancy car!" The family disperses, its members more panicked this time than ever. Why shouldn't they be, though...? ~~~ The Family Tam Malone - The Malone's Godfather; husband of Adelaide, brother of Kristina and Colin. - NPC Kristina Malone - Business major; little sister of Tam and Colin. - Played by Kristel Colin Malone - Brother of Tam and Kristina - played by CorneliusMurdock Cebastian Lillium - Party "Boy"; father of Patricia, brother of Adelaide - played by Cecilie The Associates Terrence Knox - The Malone family's lawyer - played by Trumpetking Peter Nuccitelli - The Malone family's accountant - played by Peanuts Priscilla Jenkins - Peter's secretary - played by Purpearljellyblob The Employees Candy Nelson - Escort - played by Captain Nemo Officer Penelope Talbott - Corrupt cop - played by Palathadric The Deceased The Cat in the Hat - NPC: Pulled out of a hat Night 1 - Cat Donny Dragonov - played by Darkdragon: Crushed by a billboard Day 1 - Malone Shane Donalds - played by Shadows: Axed in the back Night 2 - Malone The Great Byron - played by Bob: Swimming with the fishes Night 2 - Malone Jamie Neville - played by jamesn: Didn't look both ways before crossing the street Day 3 - Malone Adelaide Malone - Played by Adam: Darth Mauled Night 3 - Malone Doğukan Akbulut - Played by Dragonator: Died a stripper with a heart of satin Night 3 - Malone Patricia Lillium - Played by Pandora: Swimming with the tadpoles Day 4 - Malone Cap'n Rolfe - Played by Capt. Redblade: Kizzel-drizzled Night 4. - Malone Dexter Fairbanks - Played by def: Peacefully protested Night 4. - Ferrari Bernard W. Malone - Played by Chillax Darth Frodo: Died digging for wieners Day 5 - Malone Rules 1. Each player will be given a character to play, who will be aligned with either the Malones or the Ferraris. To win the game, theMalones must eradicate all threats to the family, while the Ferraris needs to outnumber all other players. Third Parties have their own win conditions, which are outlined in their role PMs. 2. Each night you will be able to vote to execute a player. Voting should be done in the following format; Vote: Character (Player). Similarly, unvoting is to be done in the format; Unvote: Character (Player). No other format will be accepted. A majority vote is required to lynch a player. 3. A game Night (equivalent of a Day) will last a maximum of 72 hours. You may not vote in the first 24 hours. The Night will end after the full 72 hours, even if a unanimous vote has been reached beforehand. After the Night has concluded, a Day (equivalent of Night) Phase will commence, which will last 48 hours. A day thread will be posted, and will be closed once the Day phase is over. If you receive a night action, please send it to me during the timeframe which I specify for you. 4. The alignment of lynched players, as well as those that died during the Day/Night, will be revealed at the beginning of the following Night (e.g., someone who is lynched on Night 1's affiliation will be revealed on Night 2, while someone who was killed during Day 2's affiliation will also be revealed at the start of Night 2 - even if they died in the middle of the Day.) 5. You may not quote or pretend to quote anything sent to or from you in PM with the game host. This includes all the details of your character and role, as well as any night action results. 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TrumpetKing Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Hoorah! Dexter was a Ferrarri! I'm going to apologize for being a bit out of control at the end of the day, I was admittedly tired and frustrated. Going by my previous suspicions, I'm going to guess that there's 4 of us Malones, 3 Ferrarris, and 1 Third Party or Serial Killer. I'm still wary of Colin being a Serial Killer, but he does seem to be trying to help us either way. Colin, I understand you are thinking of killing me. I want you to think about my previous gameplay, though. Have you, perhaps, noticed any reasons based on my past 2 or 3 games that might explain why I'm struggling as town? Really, think this through, let me answer any questions, and if you're still fixated on me being scum, then lynch me. My opinions have changed since I was suspicious of Kristina, and judging by what we have heard over the past few days, Kristina reads town to me currently. Kristina, is Person A still alive? If I were to pick three Ferrarris, they'd be Peter, Candy, and either Priscilla or Penelope, though I'm leaning more towards Priscilla.
Kristel Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 WTF? How was Rolfe not scum? If there was any doubt in my mind, it was that we had gotten Dexter, not Rolfe, wrong. I want you to think about my previous gameplay, though. Have you, perhaps, noticed any reasons based on my past 2 or 3 games that might explain why I'm struggling as town? Really, think this through, let me answer any questions, and if you're still fixated on me being scum, then lynch me. You're claiming now? Why do I feel like I'm being watched?
CorneliusMurdock Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 It's interesting to remember what Candy said about my perfect record last time period. When I'm not having an out of body experience, I'll have to find the quote. Terrence for me to hazard a guess as to why you're acting the way you are, I'd have to remember something totally forgetable? I'll have to think about that one as well. I'll get back to you when I do. So the scum knew I'd be wrong about Rolfie. That explains why they've attacked my reputation rather than my life.
CorneliusMurdock Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 That's subtle. But given your track record of killing townies, I would find solice in the fact that my death wouldn't tarnish your perfect record. There's Candy's quote. Your uncanny ability to sarcastically predict the future astounds me. It's almost as if you knew what Rolfie's affiliation was already.... And I just looked at Terrences previous incarnations. What exactly are you metagaming here? That you were scum in the last two games and it's hard for you to be town? Thinking like a townie is easy when you're a townie. Maybe you're just out of practice. Kris seems to think you're claiming something. Maybe you should. I've done a quick tally, and it looks like the odds are pretty darn good that this could be our last day. If you got 'em, claim 'em. We can weigh the claims carefully and make a more informed decision(s).
TrumpetKing Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 I'm trying to say that yes, I've played scum twice in a row and hosted a game since I've played as town. My last town game was in May, so forgive me for having a rough transition back to playing town. It's not that I'm not having townie thoughts, but lately I'm having a hard time expressing them into words, which is my own fault. Why claim? That's all I had to say, and there's no point in me claiming to have a role when I'm vanilla. It would be stupid of me no matter what affiliation I had to claim something that I wasn't unless I was sure that the role was dead, which would usually mean I'm scum.
Kristel Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Terrence, should we discuss your list again now that we know Dexter is scum?
TrumpetKing Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 I actually forgot about the list momentarily. Now that we know Dexter is scum, we need to decide whether Tam looked at the overall tally and counted Dexter If Dexter was counted, then that clears Peter, You (Kristina), and Cebastien. Since I know I'm town, that leaves Colin, Priscilla, Penelope, and Candy. Hmm... Oddly enough, that seems to fit the prediction of scum and an SK left... If he didn't include Dexter, we have a lot more work to do, and that includes looking into everybody. Clearly the first option is the easier one.
Cecilie Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Good to see we finally nailed one . I felt confident about Dexter, but I'm surprised about Rolfe turning up town. This means our numbers are probably still really tight. Worst case we're at 4-4 now? Or best case is probably 5-3. I think Colin is right this might be our last day if don't get this right I'm trying to say that yes, I've played scum twice in a row and hosted a game since I've played as town. My last town game was in May, so forgive me for having a rough transition back to playing town. It's not that I'm not having townie thoughts, but lately I'm having a hard time expressing them into words, which is my own fault. Sure you don't mean that it's so long since you've played town that you are struggling as scum to remember how a townie should think? Because it's not like townies will forget how to think like townies and think like scum instead I actually forgot about the list momentarily. Now that we know Dexter is scum, we need to decide whether Tam looked at the overall tally and counted Dexter If Dexter was counted, then that clears Peter, You (Kristina), and Cebastien. Since I know I'm town, that leaves Colin, Priscilla, Penelope, and Candy. Hmm... Oddly enough, that seems to fit the prediction of scum and an SK left... If he didn't include Dexter, we have a lot more work to do, and that includes looking into everybody. Clearly the first option is the easier one. You seem to be forgetting we still only have your word for you even having asked that question. Your list would hold a lot more validity if you were confirmed as town. As much as just lynching Priscilla, Penelope and Candy sounds like a good plan (I see no reason lynching Colin at this point), as they have seemed quite scummy, at least Candy, we still can't be sure the list wasn't just some way for you to try to deflect attention away from Dexter by getting us to talk about something else: a list he wasn't on.
mostlytechnic Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 I'm trying to say that yes, I've played scum twice in a row and hosted a game since I've played as town. My last town game was in May, so forgive me for having a rough transition back to playing town. It's not that I'm not having townie thoughts, but lately I'm having a hard time expressing them into words, which is my own fault. Glad you clarified, since I assumed you were trying to make the most unsubtle claim without actually claiming ever, but... too bad Cebastian there sorta beat me to making my point, but whatever. I don't get how you can forget how to act townie? It's NOT AN ACT! Ya just tell the truth and look for scum. Granted, maybe I just don't know what it's like to play for the other side (check MY history on that one...) but I fail to see how having been bad in past lives makes it harder to be good in this one.
mostlytechnic Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Oh so you see a time in the not so distant future that searching for a fabled serial killer will be a good idea? I invite you, once again, to take a look at the numbers. If there is a neutral amongst us, we probably would never have the buffer needed to waste a lynch on them. In fact, there'd be a better than decent chance that we've just lost with Dad's death. Why? Because the scum only need to outnumber us, the town. Neutrals aren't counted in that. Remembered something from earlier, right after Bernie died digging for weiners... Colin made a very false statement. Go read rule #1 again there killer - scum have to outnumber ALL OTHER players. So we could be at 4 scum, 1 neutral of some sort, and 3 town left. If that's the case, I'd suggest the town is Kristina, myself, and Colin the vig. I still can't see a logical way he's a SK unless we just got really lucky and blocked him the first night. But that doesn't fit with Terrance's list (whether Dex was the one scum or not, I still can't see more than 1 town on his list if we only have 3 town left) so I personally think we're facing 3 scum left, not 4. Wait, let me think about this a minute. Throwing something out there... what if Colin is scum? He could still predict his kills, would explain his lie that I called out above, and then the town could be down to say myself, Kristina, and either Peter or Ceb. Still requires Dex to not have been counted, but at least I can make it work. I don't know, just throwing stuff out. If you see a big hole in my logic point it out. I gotta run some errands, but we've got lots of time to figure out the next move. Might be our last though, so gotta make it count!
Captain Nemo Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Good that Dexter turned up car Ferrari. And I was iffy about Bernard's afiliation; though I think that may have just been because I just don't see actually town people being rude all the time. And as Colin pointed out, I was not surprised that Rolfe turned up town--I did at one point think he was scum, but once he was killed by Colin, I knew he had to be town, since Colin only kills town. Three strikes you're out? I'm going to apologize for being a bit out of control at the end of the day, I was admittedly tired and frustrated... I'm still wary of Colin being a Serial Killer, but he does seem to be trying to help us either way. Colin, I understand you are thinking of killing me. I want you to think about my previous gameplay, though. Have you, perhaps, noticed any reasons based on my past 2 or 3 games that might explain why I'm struggling as town? Really, think this through, let me answer any questions, and if you're still fixated on me being scum, then lynch me... What? This is kind of out there. I don't know why we'd judge your game of life here based off games of lives from the past--rather than remember what you said last night. That's a far better judge of your current character than what you've done in the past. I actually forgot about the list momentarily. Now that we know Dexter is scum, we need to decide whether Tam looked at the overall tally and counted Dexter If Dexter was counted, then that clears Peter, You (Kristina), and Cebastien. Since I know I'm town, that leaves Colin, Priscilla, Penelope, and Candy. Hmm... Oddly enough, that seems to fit the prediction of scum and an SK left... If he didn't include Dexter, we have a lot more work to do, and that includes looking into everybody. Clearly the first option is the easier one. On the list subject, it has to be the second option that Dexter was not counted--He wasn't on the list (And should have been because of his accusations of you; another problem with the list), but was Ferraris--so the hippie must still have a scum on your list (If Dexter was on the list, I could say that the other peoples would be cleared, but he was not, so we still don't know about them). We have no way of knowing if Dexter was left off on purpose or by accident; but we also still don't know about the remaning people on the list--and since they are still here, we must have a scum among them.
CorneliusMurdock Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 And as Colin pointed out, I was not surprised that Rolfe turned up town--I did at one point think he was scum, but once he was killed by Colin, I knew he had to be town, since Colin only kills town. Three strikes you're out? That doesn't even make sense. You think I'm a serial killer but you knew Rolfie was town because I only kill town? Do you know what a serial killer is? And that a serial killer wouldn't know any more about someone's affiliation than a townie? You might as well just come out and say that you're scum. You just keep digging yourself a hole every time you speak. I totally understand why you did that as little as possible before. Remembered something from earlier, right after Bernie died digging for weiners... Colin made a very false statement. Go read rule #1 again there killer - scum have to outnumber ALL OTHER players. So I was wrong. Tam should really include all the rules in the day threads, too for easier reference. Normally the scum only have to outnumber the town to win. I assumed they did this game as well. Whoops. Wait, let me think about this a minute. Throwing something out there... what if Colin is scum? He could still predict his kills, would explain his lie that I called out above, and then the town could be down to say myself, Kristina, and either Peter or Ceb. Still requires Dex to not have been counted, but at least I can make it work. This argument doesn't make sense either. Who killed Dad and the others if it wasn't the scum? Why are you leaving out something that obvious? I have to say that you're probably one of the better scum. I applaud you for taking over a train wreck and making it seem like a minor derailing. So the scum are Candy, Terrence, and Priscilla. There may be one more. Who does everyone else think the last one is? Now that we know Dexter is scum, we need to decide whether Tam looked at the overall tally and counted Dexter If Dexter was counted, then that clears Peter, You (Kristina), and Cebastien. Since I know I'm town, that leaves Colin, Priscilla, Penelope, and Candy. Hmm... Oddly enough, that seems to fit the prediction of scum and an SK left... I actually think we don't need to bother with the list anymore. It can't be trusted. It's also very interesting to note that the players I think are scum all assume there are only 3 scum left. I wonder how they could know that... So maybe we aren't looking for another one.
Peanuts Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Damn, I was completely wrong about both Dex and Rolfe. And as Colin pointed out, I was not surprised that Rolfe turned up town--I did at one point think he was scum, but once he was killed by Colin, I knew he had to be town, since Colin only kills town. Three strikes you're out? What kind of logic is that? Wait, let me think about this a minute. Throwing something out there... what if Colin is scum? He could still predict his kills, would explain his lie that I called out above, and then the town could be down to say myself, Kristina, and either Peter or Ceb. Still requires Dex to not have been counted, but at least I can make it work. But why wouldn't the real zombie just kill him then? So, the question now is whether the Hippie included Dexter on his list. If there was a list. Though it's interesting that Terrence ranked 2 on Dexter's top three, but I wouldn't put it past Dexter to put one (or two, Candy also was on it) of his own on his list. Right now, I'm rather sure both Kristina and Colin aren't scum.
mostlytechnic Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 On the list subject, it has to be the second option that Dexter was not counted--He wasn't on the list (And should have been because of his accusations of you; another problem with the list), but was Ferraris--so the hippie must still have a scum on your list (If Dexter was on the list, I could say that the other peoples would be cleared, but he was not, so we still don't know about them). We have no way of knowing if Dexter was left off on purpose or by accident; but we also still don't know about the remaning people on the list--and since they are still here, we must have a scum among them. You're forgetting that the list was never stated between Terrance and the hippie! The list was only stated in thread, so we have no idea whether the hippie was including dex or not. The only thing we know is that Terrance left Dex off when posting the answer in thread - either by accident OR ON PURPOSE to shield his fellow scummo. This argument doesn't make sense either. Who killed Dad and the others if it wasn't the scum? Why are you leaving out something that obvious? But why wouldn't the real zombie just kill him then? Thanks for pointing out the holes in my thinking - I was posting quickly before heading to church (yes, even we Malones go to church, gotta cover our bases you know!) and didn't have time to fully contemplate. So yeah, I'm confident now that Colin is the vig. So that means the town is now myself, Colin, Kristina, and hopefully another. I think Terrance's list is a pile of crap cause he's scum. It was an effective gambit, certainly got everyone distracted for a long time, but it's time to move past it. So even though I just posted something about the list a second ago, I think it's worthless the more I think about it.
TrumpetKing Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 What? This is kind of out there. I don't know why we'd judge your game of life here based off games of lives from the past--rather than remember what you said last night. That's a far better judge of your current character than what you've done in the past. On the list subject, it has to be the second option that Dexter was not counted--He wasn't on the list (And should have been because of his accusations of you; another problem with the list), but was Ferraris--so the hippie must still have a scum on your list (If Dexter was on the list, I could say that the other peoples would be cleared, but he was not, so we still don't know about them). We have no way of knowing if Dexter was left off on purpose or by accident; but we also still don't know about the remaning people on the list--and since they are still here, we must have a scum among them. I'm not sure where you're pulling out the crap you made in the second paragraph, since you're saying it has to be the second option. Sounds like you're just making a crappy attempt at trying to shove suspicion off of you. Oh, and just so you know, practically the entire suspicion based off of me was meta at first, saying I wasn't as active as my usual self, when the games I've been most active in I played as scum. You're forgetting that the list was never stated between Terrance and the hippie! The list was only stated in thread, so we have no idea whether the hippie was including dex or not. The only thing we know is that Terrance left Dex off when posting the answer in thread - either by accident OR ON PURPOSE to shield his fellow scummo. Thanks for pointing out the holes in my thinking - I was posting quickly before heading to church (yes, even we Malones go to church, gotta cover our bases you know!) and didn't have time to fully contemplate. So yeah, I'm confident now that Colin is the vig. So that means the town is now myself, Colin, Kristina, and hopefully another. I think Terrance's list is a pile of crap cause he's scum. It was an effective gambit, certainly got everyone distracted for a long time, but it's time to move past it. So even though I just posted something about the list a second ago, I think it's worthless the more I think about it. Oh haha, you and Colin have the exact same thoughts, that's very funny. I don't like your change on opinion so fast, even if people are pointing out flaws in your accusation. You're scum. I'm nearly sure of it. So the scum are Candy, Terrence, and Priscilla. There may be one more. Who does everyone else think the last one is? I actually think we don't need to bother with the list anymore. It can't be trusted. It's also very interesting to note that the players I think are scum all assume there are only 3 scum left. I wonder how they could know that... So maybe we aren't looking for another one. Why am I scum? Why is my list not to be trusted? Because you say so? Dexter turned up scum, and he listed me as a suspicion, so that answers the fact that my question was legitimate. You are not the immediate decision maker for the town, and I doubt you should be, because I'm fairly sure you aren't town. I'm going to be shocked if you aren't the Serial Killer, frankly. It's also very interesting to note that the numbers are generated using previous game's basic structures with numbers. The logical setup for this game, and judging by the third party mentioned in the rules, would be 1 Serial Killer, 4 scum, and 14 town. This is our last chance. It's 1-4-3 now. Killing me will make it 1-3-3. You'll need to either lynch Candy, Penelope, or Priscilla to continue. Oh, and I'd just like to point out that the last game this God hosted had one of the SK's win conditions be living to the final 4, so we'd have to get rid of Colin soon as well, in case the win condition is the same. But that won't happen, so our chances of winning are practically diminished. Glad you clarified, since I assumed you were trying to make the most unsubtle claim without actually claiming ever, but... too bad Cebastian there sorta beat me to making my point, but whatever. I don't get how you can forget how to act townie? It's NOT AN ACT! Ya just tell the truth and look for scum. Granted, maybe I just don't know what it's like to play for the other side (check MY history on that one...) but I fail to see how having been bad in past lives makes it harder to be good in this one. You can't be serious. I'm not saying it's harder for me to be town, or act town, because I'm doing exactly what you said a town should do. Tell the truth and look for scum. You can't do that, because you are scum, but at least I'm taking your advice. I'm just saying that I haven't played town in nearly half a year, so honestly, yes, I'm going to sound jumbled, but that's just because I'm getting back into the swing of things. Good to see we finally nailed one . I felt confident about Dexter, but I'm surprised about Rolfe turning up town. This means our numbers are probably still really tight. Worst case we're at 4-4 now? Or best case is probably 5-3. I think Colin is right this might be our last day if don't get this right Sure you don't mean that it's so long since you've played town that you are struggling as scum to remember how a townie should think? Because it's not like townies will forget how to think like townies and think like scum instead You seem to be forgetting we still only have your word for you even having asked that question. Your list would hold a lot more validity if you were confirmed as town. As much as just lynching Priscilla, Penelope and Candy sounds like a good plan (I see no reason lynching Colin at this point), as they have seemed quite scummy, at least Candy, we still can't be sure the list wasn't just some way for you to try to deflect attention away from Dexter by getting us to talk about something else: a list he wasn't on. Nobody's confirmed town, unless Tam included Dexter as part of the list. Then you, Peter, myself, and Kristina are confirmed town. In case you aren't getting what I'm saying, I'll just clarify again that I'm very sure the scum are Candy, Priscilla, and Penelope. Oh, and that I think our supposed 'vigilante' is a Serial Killer.
mostlytechnic Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Terrance, you keep saying Colin's the SK and not vig. Why? Make a logical case. Here's my reasoning why that's not accurate. If he's SK, why skip the first opportunity he had to kill? A SK would get someone every opportunity they have since it's how they win. His targets have been wrong, sure, but our voting hasn't been much better! So not sure you can criticize him on that basis. I ask for one reason only. If he's SK, we need to kill him. If he's vig, we need to keep him around as long as we can since we need to kill off the scum!
TrumpetKing Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 If you seriously haven't established my reasoning for him being the Serial Killer, you need to do a better job reading. Who said he skipped the first opportunity? He could have been blocked. Also, the rules state that there could be a neutral player. We've seen no counter claims for his, which is a good and a bad thing. I pointed out that he could just be trying to help the town as well. Just because he's a Serial Killer doesn't automatically mean he's working against the town. He is honestly the most logical choice to be a Serial Killer looking by his claim and the predicted claims. It's sitting right in front of the town, and we need to take some form of action eventually before he kills enough of us for him to win.
Cecilie Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 I'm confused, the biggest suspects, Terrance, Candy and Priscilla are arguing between themselves, and about if we have a serial killer Are the scum trying to confuse us all by having these arguments, so that we will only lynch one of them and think the others are clear?
TrumpetKing Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Colin, why are you so intent on trying to blame me and the two scummos for suggesting there's three scum? If there's 4 scum, we would have already lost, because it would be 4-4 or 1-3-4. There's either 3 scum and 5 town, which I doubt given your claim, or 4 town, 3 scum, and you.
Palathadric Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 I actually forgot about the list momentarily. <p>Maybe because there never was one to begin with? &nb I actually forgot about the list momentarily. Maybe because there never was one to begin with? Now that we know Dexter is scum, we need to decide whether Tam looked at the overall tally and counted Dexter If Dexter was counted, then that clears Peter, You (Kristina), and Cebastien. Since I know I'm town, that leaves Colin, Priscilla, Penelope, and Candy. Hmm...you know, you should be able to just ask Tam if he made a mistake or not. The only person whose allegiance would have been plain if Tam clarified was Dexter and he's already dead, so I don't see any reason why, if you are speaking truthfully about this whole deal, he should not clarify for you (but I could be just unfamiliar with how our godfather works). Honestly, though, if Tam had counted Dexter among those who had raised suspicions of you, then I'm well-nigh 100% certain of your being scum, because Colin seems to obviously be town (or SK, for the insistence of some ) despite what Candy would have us believe, and I know I'm not scum, but, of course, you only have my word to go on for that. So the scum are Candy, Terrence, and Priscilla. There may be one more. Who does everyone else think the last one is? If it boils down to it, I would add Peter. Like Cebastien I haven't really seen much that shouts "scum" nor a whole lot that should "town", but he tips slightly more to the scummy side than Cebastien, in my opinion. If you seriously haven't established my reasoning for him being the Serial Killer, you need to do a better job reading. Who said he skipped the first opportunity? He could have been blocked. If Colin were blocked, assuming that the "silenced from talking" has to do with being blocked, then Colin can't have been blocked "at the first opportunity." Meh, that last bit didn't come out right, but I think you get my point.
TrumpetKing Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 There was a list. Also, you say it as if I hadn't considered asking him which list he was looking at. I have considered asking him, as there's been a lot of confusion as to which tally he looked at. I've held off from asking as I figured I'd either get no clear answer, or no answer at all, but if it helps, I'll ask.
TrumpetKing Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 I can now clarify on what the Dirty Hippie meant. When I asked Tam whether the Dirty Hippie included Dexter, the response I got (paraphrased) was asking why the Hippie wouldn't have been talking about the simplest tally, so I assume that he was talking about the tally that left Dexter out. That means that either Kristina, Peter, or Cebastien is scum, and I'm leaning most towards Peter. Given the clarification, I want to say that the town is myself, Kristina, Cebastien, and substitute Peter with Penelope. I'd say Colin is still the Serial Killer, and that the scum are Priscilla, Candy, and substitute Penelope with Peter.
CorneliusMurdock Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Why am I scum? Why is my list not to be trusted? Because you say so? Dexter turned up scum, and he listed me as a suspicion, so that answers the fact that my question was legitimate. You are not the immediate decision maker for the town, and I doubt you should be, because I'm fairly sure you aren't town. I'm going to be shocked if you aren't the Serial Killer, frankly. It's also very interesting to note that the numbers are generated using previous game's basic structures with numbers. The logical setup for this game, and judging by the third party mentioned in the rules, would be 1 Serial Killer, 4 scum, and 14 town. This is our last chance. It's 1-4-3 now. Killing me will make it 1-3-3. You'll need to either lynch Candy, Penelope, or Priscilla to continue. Oh, and I'd just like to point out that the last game this God hosted had one of the SK's win conditions be living to the final 4, so we'd have to get rid of Colin soon as well, in case the win condition is the same. But that won't happen, so our chances of winning are practically diminished. So your most compelling reason that you think I'm the serial killer is that a previous game had one? Did this other game have a vigilante as well? If you seriously haven't established my reasoning for him being the Serial Killer, you need to do a better job reading. Who said he skipped the first opportunity? He could have been blocked. Also, the rules state that there could be a neutral player. We've seen no counter claims for his, which is a good and a bad thing. I pointed out that he could just be trying to help the town as well. Just because he's a Serial Killer doesn't automatically mean he's working against the town. He is honestly the most logical choice to be a Serial Killer looking by his claim and the predicted claims. It's sitting right in front of the town, and we need to take some form of action eventually before he kills enough of us for him to win. That's it, now make it sound like we have to lynch me before we deal with the scum. We know there are scum. You have no proof that there even is a serial killer. Silly scum. Colin, why are you so intent on trying to blame me and the two scummos for suggesting there's three scum? If there's 4 scum, we would have already lost, because it would be 4-4 or 1-3-4. There's either 3 scum and 5 town, which I doubt given your claim, or 4 town, 3 scum, and you. How would 4-4 mean a loss? That wouldn't be "outnumbering" that would be tying. You know there are three scum left because you are scum. Simple. I think you're pulling that "clarification" out of your rear. It's not really a clarification, it just gets you what you want: someone else in then hot seat. That's why you came up with the list idea in the first place. That's why you and Candy are so insistent on saying that I'm a serial killer. I know I'm smarter than that and I'm pretty sure the rest of the town is as well.
TrumpetKing Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 You're right. I have no direct proof there's a Serial Killer, because you don't want to admit that you're it. 4-4 is a loss because the scum can just force a tie and kill somebody else, outnumbering them. Most games I've seen with a scum win didn't include the extra day just because there wasn't a direct outnumber. I'm not pulling the clarification out of my rear, it's the truth. You're just saying everything I say is a lie, because I'm an easy target for you. I'd suggest you stop tunneling and start actually scumhunting, because all you're doing is telling me I'm wrong because you say so. The list is something that's true. It's verified that I was able to ask a question. The only way I could have made that up is if I knew that I could have asked a question prior, meaning if I were scum a scumbuddy had told me. Considering all three objects were taken, Bernard was town, you're a liar, and we don't know who the other riddle solver was, the third must be scum for me to know, correct? Who else solved the riddle then? Surely they must be scum if I am too, no?
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