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Hi guys The updated version of my Pistenbully is online at LEGO Ideas: https://ideas.lego.com/projects/4afe4584-482e-4b91-9f3d-e79dd510ad77 It features many improvements, such as: Replaced Power Functions with Powered Up (well, more like placeholders for the Powered Up parts since they are not available in Bricklink Studio) Added winch arm (so it now is a PistenBully 600W) Added pneumatic hoses to the digital model (quite some work) One M-motor to power all non-drive functions Reversing mechanism in winch control and pusher blad width control so that the M-motor can always turn in the same direction ... Please support the build if you like it. Needless to say I want to reach 10000 votes ;) A couple of images: (Here they are showed in good quality. The LEGO Ideas website compresses images too much.) Thanks for your support!
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You can try, but I don't thik it will work. As sead before, I connected one XL motor to the front differential and 1 XL motor to the rear differential. Two XL motors on the centre differential might damage the gears because of the high torque going trough. You could try and accelerate carefully. If you hear gears cracking, you will need to simplify the drivetrain.
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I have the Defender set up the second way, and it is not slow thanks to the BuWizz's ludicrous mode :) After all, the XL motors are more powerful than the L motors, so if you would gear them in such a way that the speed at the wheel is the same, the XL motor setup would deliver more torque than the L motor setup. If you gear the motor so that the torque at the wheels is the same, the XL motor setup would be faster than the L motor setup.
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Not so fast! Sorry, my answer was not complete... I thought you only wanted to discuss the driving part, so I didn't pay attention to the steering in my answer. But first, do you know the difference between LEGO Power Functions and LEGO Powered Up? Take a look at this video: The connector is different and Power Fuctions can only use a servo motor for steering (4th from left). Powered Up motors have a position sensor built in and therefore can use a L (or XL) motor for steering. There are 2 Powered Up servo motors (now called angular motors) as well, but they are not covered in this video and quite expensive. If you choose the older Power Functions (PF), you need the following to make the Defender RC: 2 L, 1 XL or 2 XL PF motors for drive (1 L motor works for lighter vehicles, but not the Defender) 1 PF servo motor for steering 1 standard PF battery box and 1 SBrick or 1 BuWizz 2.0 (has battery built in) or 1 standard PF battery box, 1 PF IR receiver and one PF IR remote control (2 models) Mind that the PF IR receiver cannot handle 2 XL motors, but I wouldn't choose the IR option anyway... If you choose the newer Powered Up (PU), you need the following: 2 L, 1 XL or 2 XL PU motors for drive 1 L PU motor or 1 PU small angular motor for steering 1 LEGO Contrul+ hub or 1 BuWizz 3.0 BuWizz will in most cases be the better choice, but mind that you need a different version for Power Functions and for Powered Up.
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The SBrick is good, but since I have the BuWizz as well, I didn't use it anymore. It feels like an interim solution. The BuWizz is a more compact and powerful solution. Either buy a BuWizz or the Lego Control Hub. Also, I wouldn't buy the control hub on itself but rather as part of a set. Here at least, the control hub costs €80 and a set including that, two L motors and a whole lot of parts (f.e. 42124) only around €90.
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Hi noahtheb If you want to drive the Defender with two motors (L or XL), I would recommend to drive each axle with one motor. Therefore, you would need to remove the gearbox and the centre differential. This has a couple of advantages: less weight, less friction, less chance of cracking gears, less play on the drivetrain, traction will only be lost when two wheels lose grip instead of when one wheel loses grip and more interior space. Try to make the connection between the motor and the axle differential as direct as possible. However, with the L-motor you might need to reduce gearing, for example with motor > 12t gear > 20t gear > axle differential. Keeping the gearbox is possible, then you would need to combine the motors on the gearbox's input. I think it won't have many advantages and operating the gearbox remotely will add more weight and bulk.
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Yes, I did so by lowering the damper's mounting point by half a stud. Front: Back: Keep in mind that the universal joints on the half axles don't run smoothly at this angle, so the suspension has to be compressed a bit by the vehicle's weight (which it is always supposed to do, otherwise suspension doesn't make a lot of sense). This combined with mounting the truck tires on the Defender rims (see my previous post) gives a ground clearance of 5.5 studs with uncompressed suspension, 4.5 studs with suspension partly compressed by the vehicle's weight and 2.5 studs with the suspension fully compressed.
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I tried some different wheel and tire combinations on the Defender. The standard LEGO truck wheels have the same dimensions as the Defender wheels, but they have a smaller ET-value (einpresstiefe) than the Defender wheels. As a result, they are positioned further outside. You can combine the: Defender wheels with Defender tires (obviously) Defender wheels with truck tires - but the suspension needs to be lifted with half a stud Truck wheels with Defender tires - but the fenders needs to be widened by one stud Truck wheels with truck tires - but the suspension needs to be lifted with half a stud and the fenders need to be widened by one stud Truck wheels with tractor tires - but the suspension needs to be lifted with half a stud and the fenders removed Cannot be combined: Defender wheels with tractor tires - they are wider and taller and will rub on all sides Also, the tractor tires are so tall, that the play in the wheel hub and suspension cause too much variation in geometry. It doesn't drive that well. It is fast though (with an XL PF motor driving each axle). To my surprise, the gears and diff never skipped or cracked, not even with the BuWizz set on Ludicrous. Some pictures: With truck rims and tractor tires, suspesion on standard height: With suspension raised half a stud: With truck tires on Defender wheels, suspension raised half a stud: I quite like this setup, it drives very well and makes it better RC car for outdoor use. RC setup; PF XL motor on each axle, directly driving the diff, PF servo in place of the fake engine, BuWizz in the trunk, all controlled with an Xbox controller.
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Thanks! I didn't even know such a thing existed. I will give it a try, but it doesn't look easy.
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Some Belgian LEGO Fan started following [MOC] Kässbohrer PistenBully 600
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Hi guys I present you the Kässbohrer PistenBully 600, top of the range of the well known alpine ski slope preparation machines. The model reproduced in LEGO Technic is true to scale 1:16 and contains 2044 parts (excluding pneumatic tubes). I submitted it in LEGO Ideas: https://ideas.lego.com/projects/4afe4584-482e-4b91-9f3d-e79dd510ad77 (For more pictures, see LEGO Ideas site.) The model has many functions, some of which can be controlled remotely: Drive: both tracks are motorised individually and can be controlled remotely Pusher blade up/down and swivel are pneumatic, controlled from within the cabin The pusher blade side panels are motorised and can be controlled remotely In-cabin selector to switch between compressor and pusher blade side panels operation Tiller rotation is motorised and can be controlled remotely Tiller up/down is pneumatic, controlled on the tiller arm Side finisher are deployed pneumatically, controlled on the tiller arm Tiller swivel is a free movement so it follows the vehicle's path Cabin can be tilted forward and locked in normal position by levers under the engine cover The model uses stickers on a couple of panels and tiles: Doors left and right Tiller cover left and right Front logo Rear view mirrors Centre console monitor Centre console selector and two parts in a new colour: 3x5 liftarm in black (4x) 2x2 round plate in trans-orange (2x) LEGO Ideas rules did not allow this image: Please note that not all new pneumatic and PoweredUp parts are available in BrickLink Studio, that is why it has the wrong battery box, the old L-motors, the old pneumatic switches and no pneumatic tubes. The real version I made works fine though. Let's hope for some snow this winter so I can test it in real life ;) This model can be transformed in the PistenBully 600E+ by replacing the red parts with bright green. I tried adding the winch, but it didn't look good. I guess it's shape is too difficult (for me) to reproduce in LEGO Technic. So no winch for now... To do: - Make an animation showing the functions - Give the winch another try - Add penumatic tubes in drawing (I could try this by exporting the model to LDraw) - Replace L motors and battery unit with PoweredUp version when they become available in BrickLink Studio. Suggestions are most welcome. I hope you like it. If you do, I would be very gratefull for your support on https://ideas.lego.com/projects/4afe4584-482e-4b91-9f3d-e79dd510ad77
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I did some scale calculations on the Defender. The scale is somewhere between 1:10 and 1:11. I cacluated for scale 1:11, which case closest. I couldn't find the length of the doors in the specifications, so this I measured in pictures. The other dimensions are retreived from the official specifications. Hope this helps for conversions... BTW, the pickup version is based on the 110, but does not carry the spare wheel on the back.