irispen Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) The best looking starwars set out there... imo, better than any ucs slave 1 moc i ever seen! Imperial shuttle ucs + slave 1 ucs + millenium falcon ucs = awesome! I hope lego will rerelease another falcon! Edited December 21, 2014 by irispen Quote
Chills Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 2 out of 5? Seriously? This amazing set is so much better than your own crappy "UCS Slave One", but you keep pissing on it. You just can't help it, I guess. I think someone is very jealous .... That's quite uncalled for. Anio was giving his honest opinion, which obviously differs from yours. That's no reason to call his MOC "crappy." Quote
Beckmesser Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 That's quite uncalled for. Anio was giving his honest opinion, which obviously differs from yours. That's no reason to call his MOC "crappy." You are correct, I edited that out, even if that is MY honest assessment of his "UCS Slave One" - which is just a beefed-up version of a LEGO retail set, down to the tan wings. Quote
Anio Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Hello, your own ###* "UCS Slave One", but you keep pissing on it. You just can't help it, I guess. You are probably right saying my Slave 1 is crappy. I consider it myself very very meh. That said, regarding many aspects, 75060 is worse. 2 out of 5? Seriously? This amazing set is so much better than You obviously focused on the final rating and didn't read the whole review where every single aspects is explained. Only the tail and cockpit are worse the UCS acronyme. When I see this : + color of the skirt + color of the windscreen + color of engines + strength of the tail, I can not reasonnably rate the model above average. Imperial shuttle ucs + slave 1 ucs + millenium falcon ucs = awesome! 75060 is very far from 10212 and 10179 which I both rated at 5/5. Those both sets have basically no pitfalls. 75060 has. A lot. Quote
Lobot Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Whilst I appreciate this has some limitations, I really can't wait to order it on the 5th Jan It's the first UCS set that I've seen for several years that I'll happily pay the full RRP for. All of the UCS sets have some faults if you look close enough; for example the cockpit of the Falcon looks quite odd and the back top plates don't fit very well. In addition, the Imperial Shuttle doesn't have a landing ramp, and the landing gear has to be bolted onto the model. And, Beckmesser, I think that you're being totally unfair about Anio's Slave 1. To call it a 'beefed-up version of a LEGO retail set' is ridiculous; the latest model (8097) had 549 parts, but Anio's had 1260! Personally, I think it's in a totally different league. Quote
Robianco Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 The side area with the wing pivot beams are the most obvious area of 75060 that needs modding. It's always been the one part that's really stood out as wrong to me... although I think the shaping of the skirt is something that's grown on me. Whether it's down to the scaling of the UCS version to 8097 or Anio's version but the smoothness of the shape is clearer in both of the smaller versions... whether that's something where the scale of 75060 has brought about a certain limitation top how well this can be achieved I'm not sure. I think even 10179 can be modded to make it 'more accurate' so I'm full expecting some tweaking to make this version work a little better. Like Lobot said... on the whole for what I've seen of this model so far I'll be picking it up on the 5th... then seeing where it goes from there. Quote
Gremer Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 One 2/5 amidst I don't know how many 5/5s doesn't do a lot for me. I'm definitely ordering it, probably around May 4th. Quote
Beckmesser Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Well I guess there is no point in criticizing the critic, Anio. You seem to know exactly how this set SHOULD have been made by LEGO. I have seen this in a shop window, and it is HUGE and looks fantastic. So glad they didn't turn it into a sculpture of stacked bricks and plates instead of what appears to be a fun build. No doubts it will look great in my room too! And what's wrong with the color of the windscreen? It's trans-clear on the movie prop. The cockpit interior just looks very dark. I prefer to see LEGO Boba through the glass anyway, so I'm glad it's trans-clear. Not sure what happened to the engine glow though. It looks rather orange in EMPIRE? Aside from making new, shaped elements for the skirts I have trouble imagining how most of this could have been achieved differently - at this size with stability in mind. While I recognize the "flaws" in the set you so kindly pointed out, they don't bother me. At all. On the contrary, I believe it's charming that this set is still recognizably LEGO and made with existing parts. The biggest flaw in the non-set UCS Sandcrawler on cuusoo was that it's so smooth and perfect it doesn't even look like LEGO anymore. Sometimes less is definitely more, and the people working at LEGO seem to know that. If I wanted a 100% accurate plastic model kit I would buy one, or go for a Kenner toy on ebay. Quote
merman Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Anio also rated 10221 with 1 star, yet I think it is an AMAZING set that looks very impressive. Main argument was that it is only a display model. Duh. :P Thank God reviews are a personage opinion.... Quote
par016 Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Forget Christmas, Counting down the days to January 1st. Quote
markus1984 Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) At this point i must say the same how anio! The 10221 is one of the worst UCS sets of the complete collection. The form is not correct and a flat bottom?!?! Sorry, but that is a little bit poor, and also the details are not so beautifull. That's only just my opinion. But 2 from 5 points for the Slave? I think its one of the best UCS Sets of the last 2 years! Of course, anio have better details on the bottom and some better work on the angles but this is an absolut great Set from TLC. markus Edited December 21, 2014 by markus1984 Quote
obiwan1011 Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Recently saw an UCS Slave-I exhibited at one of the Lego shops and I must agree with Anio. Once the initial wow factor settles down, you start to see shortfalls; the engine area especially looks so... ugly and chaotic. But it will no doubt sell well given how a lot of people have waited for an UCS version of this popular ship... Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but I am not impressed with its design and would only rate SSD below Slave-I among the recent UCS releases. Even the unpopular B-Wing and JSF look better than this. Quote
irispen Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 I agree with 10221, i dont like it.. but the slave 1 is too good to be rated as 2.. Quote
Chills Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) I have a LOT of respect for both Anio and Markus. You guys are amazing MOCers. I understand why you two don't like the set, but I have a different opinion of 10221. I love the set, even with is obvious flaws. It was a lot of fun to build and looks amazing (IMHO) on display in my Death Star room. It was the set that brought me out of my Dark Ages, so there's a certain level of sentimentality that allows me to accept the SSD's short-comings. Beckmesser, Anio was stating his opinion in the review. Don't let it detract from your enjoyment of the UCS Slave I. Not everyone is going to agree with you, and vice versa. Don't let that sort of thing get to you or you're going to be angry a lot of the time. That being said, I can't wait to pick up Slave I. I'm already starting to move some sets around to make room for her. Edited December 22, 2014 by Chills Quote
MKJoshA Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 I just want to say, thank you guys for keeping this conversation civil so far. We can argue our points without hurting feelings and it seems you all are doing that right now. Keep up the good work! Quote
par016 Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 So obviously there are several criteria to judge a set on: -It's appearance overall -It's accuracy to what it is depicting -Techniques used in the build -Enjoyment of the build (was it repetitive etc) So I guess I am wondering what aspect of 10221 has caused it to be so disliked in this thread? I own the set but have not had a chance to build it yet. I'm just interested in understanding why it's disliked. -Pete Quote
Bucephalusfund Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 I'm looking forward to seeing the display at my local shop before I decide. Quote
Bbafett Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 So obviously there are several criteria to judge a set on: -It's appearance overall -It's accuracy to what it is depicting -Techniques used in the build -Enjoyment of the build (was it repetitive etc) So I guess I am wondering what aspect of 10221 has caused it to be so disliked in this thread? I own the set but have not had a chance to build it yet. I'm just interested in understanding why it's disliked. -Pete In my opinion 10221 looks pretty good after putting it together twice. However it has a couple short comings. The biggest one that I see is the very flat bottom doesn't match the movies. It might make it easier to build is why Lego went that way. I still love the model on display for the sheer size of it and details of the city on the ship. Quote
merman Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 What about 75059? How would you rate that UCS? Quote
Bob De Quatre Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Ok everyone. This thread is to discuss set #75060 UCS Slave 1, and that's all. No more talk about the 10221 or any other set. A review is a way for someone to give his/her feeling on a set, based on many criterion. You may not agree with the conclusion of a review and have another opinion.You're welcome to discuss it in a proper manner, in respect of others opinions. Quote
Bbafett Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 I plan on buying this Slave 1 next year at some point. Might not be in January, but most likely the first quarter of the year. I think it looks awesome. I am a huge Boba Fett fan and love his ship. I have his ship as my keychain. Really like the way it is built and was pleasantly surprised as to how big the set is on the video by Lego. Really has that Wow! factor to me. I just have to find a good spot for it. lol. Quote
Beckmesser Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 ... I have his ship as my keychain ... . Right, it's a shame we can't wear 75060 as a key chain! What an unbelievable oversight by the designer to make it so heavy, tsk. Fortunately not all of us feel like writing reviews, or UCS Slave One would have another 2/5 to suck up right now ... ;) Quote
Schneeds Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 I'm not sure what the criticism of the back/engine areas is all about. Other than the blue dish color, it's pretty accurate. http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=1835 Working off the model on the right, there isn't much in the way of greebling there, and what lego put on there is pretty decent. Quote
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