gyenesvi Posted January 8 Posted January 8 Indeed, I see, actually I did order some of them a while ago and checked now. Pity, not sure why it needs to be flexible; it could have been useful for some purposes.. Quote
1gor Posted January 9 Posted January 9 14 hours ago, gyenesvi said: Indeed, I see, actually I did order some of them a while ago and checked now. Pity, not sure why it needs to be flexible; it could have been useful for some purposes.. I agree; I wanted to brace gears 40 and 24 tooth with them at output if coupled XL motors, so I could use stronger CV joints on my model, but I can't because those were not strong enough...anyway I went back to 9398 type of suspension... ...even new Wishbones 7 x 7 from McLaren are bending... Quote
Aurorasaurus Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Top right hand corner part could mean Lego is making a small live axle with planetary hubs. I really hope that part comes in good quantities in an affordable set. Bottom left seems like it might be useful in specific scenarios, top left could maybe also be useful in a live axle. But I honestly have no idea what the part in the bottom right is. Quote
R0Sch Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Holy cow! There are more!https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/designs/015085679-0028https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/designs/015085679-0030https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/designs/015085679-0031 Quote
Zerobricks Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Could these form a longitudual assembly like a differential? Maybe something like a Tatra uses? Quote
MP LEGO Technic creations Posted January 9 Posted January 9 58 minutes ago, Aurorasaurus said: Top right hand corner part could mean Lego is making a small live axle with planetary hubs. 59 minutes ago, Aurorasaurus said: top left could maybe also be useful in a live axle. I believe that these two parts are used in the front suspension setup of both upcoming Technic F1 cars - SF24 & RB20. Quote
Zerobricks Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Just now, MP LEGO Technic creations said: I believe that these two parts are used in the front suspension setup of both upcoming Technic F1 cars - SF24 & RB20. Indeed, they are both used in both new F1 cars! Quote
Zerobricks Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Look what i also found: https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/designs/015085679-0004 Quote
2GodBDGlory Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Yeah, those towball parts are in the F1 cars, I believe. Those will be extremely useful! Though more so the female one. That yellow part seems like something that could be quite useful! Half stud offsets in some situations are strangely hard. I get the feeling that the other four parts are all meant to interface together. The gear with pin might go on top of the bottom right piece, and then mesh with the other gear. To me, it looks most like a heavy-duty joint for large mechs, but I guess we'll see! 11 minutes ago, Zerobricks said: Look what i also found: https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/designs/015085679-0004 Was that the one used in the F1 cars? Quote
Aurorasaurus Posted January 9 Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, 2GodBDGlory said: Was that the one used in the F1 cars? Yes. Quote
gyenesvi Posted January 9 Posted January 9 (edited) 15 hours ago, Zerobricks said: Look what i also found: https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/designs/015085679-0004 Hmm, that pinhole in the middle seems quite a bit weird, I wonder if that'll be in the way for a drivetrain in case of a suspension with more travel than the F1 cars.. The other parts seem interesting, wonder what those geared things are for. Edited January 10 by gyenesvi Quote
Aurorasaurus Posted January 9 Posted January 9 11 minutes ago, gyenesvi said: Hmm, that pinhole in the middle seems quite a bit weird, I wonder if that'll be in the way for a drivetrain in case of a suspension with more travel than the F1 cars.. I think its for attaching a towball too, then using a 9L link for pull/pushrod suspension. I think the 3L suspension arm with towball has an axle hole on it to connect to the really long wishbones and use conventional hubs. The spacing is right, I think. Quote
Zerobricks Posted January 9 Posted January 9 (edited) I think I just figured out what those gear assembly is! A coaxial drive for a helicopter or such, both gears are driven in opposite directions by a third, smaller gear or maybe even the small yellow one from Daytona diff! Edited January 9 by Zerobricks Quote
Stereo Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) 6 hours ago, 2GodBDGlory said: I get the feeling that the other four parts are all meant to interface together. The gear with pin might go on top of the bottom right piece, and then mesh with the other gear. To me, it looks most like a heavy-duty joint for large mechs, but I guess we'll see! Yeah, seems like a very heavy duty joint with 2 articulations, both using clicks: Numbered in order they appear in images, 1+2 would face each other as the 2 parts of the joint, 3 sticks on either side of 1 with ratcheting functions, and the 4th piece goes through the hole in part 2 to reach the center, where an axle can lock it in. So if you ratchet both #3 parts the same way, the joint bends, and if you ratchet them opposite directions, the 2 joints rotate relative to each other. Hard to be certain about how the 4th part's connected to the 1st but I'm thinking you just run an axle through it. Also would need to see the other side of #3s to know if any connection points exist on the outward facing side. 1st part has features I'm not sure the function of - 8 splines on the inside of the side holes (which goes to smooth parts of the gears), and a pinhole down the center that seems like it should just run into a dead end. Maybe they're just reducing the mass of plastic used. Edited January 10 by Stereo Quote
1gor Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) On 1/9/2025 at 10:18 PM, Aurorasaurus said: I think its for attaching a towball too, then using a 9L link for pull/pushrod suspension. I think the 3L suspension arm with towball has an axle hole on it to connect to the really long wishbones and use conventional hubs. The spacing is right, I think. On wishbone pin hole is exactly for that and small (3 studs long) part with towball socket you can see specially on the same image that you posted, but also on Ferrari. Lower part is rounded and it means that towball fits inside... Edited January 12 by 1gor Quote
R0Sch Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) 8 hours ago, Stereo said: Yeah, seems like a very heavy duty joint with 2 articulations, both using clicks: Good deduction! It's exactly used as you describe. Here is the mock-up of the parts and how they connect. Maybe this heavy duty ratcheting joint will be used in the upcoming UCS AT-ST Walker. It's also interesting to know that the Designer behind this HD joint is Janko Grujic, who designed last year's large City Excavator 60460 (which introduced the 5713 element 3L Axle and Pin Connector). If we look at the upcoming list of City sets for June, we can find two possible candidates 60466 Bulldozer with Front Loader or my main hunch 60467 Heavy Duty Recovery Tow Truck with Crane, an 80$, 793 pcs vehicle probably similar in size as 60409. where this assembly would be of use. Edited January 10 by R0Sch Quote
Jundis Posted January 11 Posted January 11 On 1/9/2025 at 7:28 PM, R0Sch said: Guess which company filed a patent on these parts? The upper right part is so useful for small tractor front axles, hopefully we seem them soon in upcoming sets! *hyped* Quote
howitzer Posted January 11 Posted January 11 (edited) On 1/9/2025 at 8:28 PM, R0Sch said: Guess which company filed a patent on these parts? The two topmost parts could finally help make ball-socket connections small enough to be useful for structural connections (attaching panels at weird angles and such), though I guess the socket isn't tight fitting as it's probably meant for suspension and such where free movement is required. The bottom left looks also really cool as it allows another way of creating half-stud offsets which is always nice to have to complement the existing ones. Edited January 11 by howitzer Quote
SNIPE Posted January 12 Posted January 12 (edited) Super impressed with these new parts, in particular the 2L pinhole beam with offset 1L axle. Also, I wonder if this part could be used like a #1 connector but with a pinhole instead of an axle hole and an extra hole on the end (so basically a 1x2 beam with axle hole): Too bad that its too wide to fit flush again a beam, or in between 2 beams that are spaced 1L apart, anyhow it reminds me of this part Edited January 12 by SNIPE Quote
ord Posted January 12 Posted January 12 2 hours ago, SNIPE said: Also, I wonder if this part could be used like a #1 connector but with a pinhole instead of an axle hole I have a feeling that it can. The joints appear to be able to attach in series using 2x 2L axles, and a friction pin would make that connection even more robust. 2 hours ago, SNIPE said: it reminds me of this part I was thinking that too. Interestingly, the joint that part is designed for has a very similar function to this joint - 2 articulations with 15 degree increments. Quote
aeh5040 Posted January 12 Posted January 12 (edited) On 1/9/2025 at 6:28 PM, R0Sch said: Guess which company filed a patent on these parts? The yellow one is bizarre! But potentially a useful tool for half spacing. Edited January 12 by aeh5040 Quote
1gor Posted January 12 Posted January 12 (edited) On 1/12/2025 at 2:51 PM, aeh5040 said: The yellow one is bizarre! But potentially a useful tool for half spacing. Actually it is very usefull for some my projects where rear axle should be one half stud lower than front because vehicle is sligthly tilted forwards... Edited January 13 by 1gor Quote
Takanuinuva Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) On 1/9/2025 at 7:28 PM, R0Sch said: Guess which company filed a patent on these parts? Interesting to see a towball version of the Glatorian neck. I wonder if it'll have a use outside of technic. Edited January 13 by Milan Removed quote pictures from the same page. Quote
shroomzofdoom Posted January 14 Posted January 14 (edited) Is there something going on with pick a brick on lego.com? I had an order back in November for some of the newer parts and it was cancelled without notice this week. When I checked none of the parts I ordered are offered on the US site and they're down to only 293 Technic parts. Did I miss a memo? EDIT: It looks like they only have bestseller parts and no more standard? Edited January 14 by shroomzofdoom Quote
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