General Part Discussion

[SNIPE]

4 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

On another note, am I the only one who hates the 0.5 stud protrusions on both sides of the L motor?

it means you can have two motors in parralel but spaced using odd numbers where as if you put two power functions motors in parralel they are spaced using hard to work with, even numbers.

[Saberwing40k]

5 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

On another note, am I the only one who hates the 0.5 stud protrusions on both sides of the L motor?

i generally don't find them to be that bad. It can be kind of annoying, but I'm pretty sure it's needed because of how the motor is sized.

1 hour ago, SNIPE said:

it means you can have two motors in parralel but spaced using odd numbers where as if you put two power functions motors in parralel they are spaced using hard to work with, even numbers.

This makes absolutely no sense. Just leave a stud between the M motors. Boom, instant odd spacing. Plus, you have room for a driveshaft to go between them. I think this is a flimsy at best reason for the shape of the motors.

Wait, are we talking about the PF L motors, or the Control Minus ones? Because the newer motors make not a whole lot of sense.

[SNIPE]

5 minutes ago, Saberwing40k said:

i generally don't find them to be that bad. It can be kind of annoying, but I'm pretty sure it's needed because of how the motor is sized.

This makes absolutely no sense. Just leave a stud between the M motors. Boom, instant odd spacing. Plus, you have room for a driveshaft to go between them. I think this is a flimsy at best reason for the shape of the motors.

Wait, are we talking about the PF L motors, or the Control Minus ones? Because the newer motors make not a whole lot of sense.

you might not always have room to move them out by 1L but yes.

[Ngoc Nguyen]

21 minutes ago, Saberwing40k said:

Wait, are we talking about the PF L motors, or the Control Minus ones? Because the newer motors make not a whole lot of sense.

Aren't they the same? They both have 0.5 stud protrusions on both sides.

[1gor]

15 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

Aren't they the same? They both have 0.5 stud protrusions on both sides.

Yes they both have that "belly" on 2 sides ... PF XL would have been perfect if it was shaped like Control minus as @Saberwing40k mentioned and not like barrel, but other things are great with XL motor (great torque and short enough). Often this belly is pain in the a... when building MOCs and I don't like 7 or even 8 studs motors; they are simply to long for my MOCs; or LEGO should make bigger tires 

[thekoRngear]

Guys, have Rebrickable started to allow using 3rd party bricks (otherwise known as clone brands) on the MOCs? 🤔

Take a look at the upper LBG T-Beam in the front. It's definitely not from Lego. It is from either Cada or Mould King. Look at the shape of the little gaps inside between the clutch holes. They are triangle and slightly bigger. Lego ones are not like that.
The MOC's RB link is in the video description

Edited February 20, 2022 by thekoRngear

[howitzer]

3 minutes ago, thekoRngear said:

Guys, are Rebrickable started to allow using 3rd party bricks (otherwise known as clone brands) on the MOCs? 🤔

Take a look at the upper LBG T-Beam in the front. It's definitely not from Lego. It is from either Cada or Mould King. Look at the shape of the little gaps inside between the clutch holes. They are triangle and slightly bigger. Lego ones are not like that.
The MOC's RB link is in the video description

Did they explicitly start allowing non-Lego stuff (beyond the few known exceptions like Buwizz) or did they perhaps just miss the non-Lego part? Also, that T-beam doesn't seem to be functionally different from genuine Lego, so this thing is completely possible to build with genuine Lego only.

[Gray Gear]

I think you are making a mistake. Yes, the T-Beam in the video is from an alternative brand. But why would that matter to rebrickable? The MOC can be built using LEGO parts, and the brick in the part list is the LEGO version.

This does not mean Rebrickable is allowing bricks from alternative brands. They just don't mind if the MOCer uses them himself, as long as the MOC can still be built using LEGO bricks (and spaypaint, custom prints and stickers)

[gyenesvi]

9 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

On another note, am I the only one who hates the 0.5 stud protrusions on both sides of the L motor?

I also often have problems with that one, it's always in the way for something..

2 hours ago, 1gor said:

when building MOCs and I don't like 7 or even 8 studs motors; they are simply to long for my MOCs

This has some truth as well.. They just got quite long over time.

[pleegwat]

5 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

Aren't they the same? They both have 0.5 stud protrusions on both sides.

Yeah, the only real difference between fitting a PF or C+ L motor is the extra stud of length on the C+ one.

M motors are skinnier and fit in a 3x3 square tube, but they're a pain in the backside to mount in studless.

[1gor]

38 minutes ago, gyenesvi said:

I also often have problems with that one, it's always in the way for something..

This has some truth as well.. They just got quite long over time.

I tend to make compact models and this feature doesn't help me at all, or I to dumb for C+ generation Technic.

My peek was using hard coupling PF XL motors with continuous power output...now I miss one XL motor from 42030 set with cable issue from the beginning. 

[SNIPE]

6 hours ago, Saberwing40k said:

i generally don't find them to be that bad. It can be kind of annoying, but I'm pretty sure it's needed because of how the motor is sized.

This makes absolutely no sense. Just leave a stud between the M motors. Boom, instant odd spacing. Plus, you have room for a driveshaft to go between them. I think this is a flimsy at best reason for the shape of the motors.

Wait, are we talking about the PF L motors, or the Control Minus ones? Because the newer motors make not a whole lot of sense.

Just noticed that we have exactually the same post count :D

R.E the above quote: yes.

Edited February 20, 2022 by SNIPE

[shroomzofdoom]

Questions:

1. Do these exist in nature? 

2. If not, what part should I be using? 

3. Does anyone else find they need these from time to time? 

I just figured maybe I was doing something wrong.

Edited February 21, 2022 by shroomzofdoom

[Gray Gear]

As far as I know this is not a brick that exists. What alternative to use depends on where and how you want to use it.

[Jurss]

1.No, not legal.

2. What is the case You need something like this?

3. I think, I had cases, when I wanted something like this, but I forgot exactly which cases, and I found legal solutions.

[SNIPE]

2 hours ago, shroomzofdoom said:

1. Do these exist in nature?

No, but i wish they did badly.

[gyenesvi]

5 hours ago, shroomzofdoom said:

Does anyone else find they need these from time to time? 

Yes, it would be useful quite often :) One of those parts that should logically exist..

[shroomzofdoom]

8 hours ago, Jurss said:

2. What is the case You need something like this?

When the 3L pin with bush stop is too long and you need it to be only 2L.  

Analogy:

A 3L pin with bush stop (orange) and 3L pin with axle (red) both exist

Therefore, if a 2L axle/pin (blue) exists...then a 2L pin with bush stop (gray) should also exist. (without the use of Xacto knife and cigarette lighter)

Edited February 21, 2022 by shroomzofdoom

[shroomzofdoom]

I discovered Lego Technic only a year ago and have probably gone a bit overboard.  Every now and again, I stumble upon a part that I am surprised is not more widespread in use.  The UCS AT-AT showed me that these exist and I was like 'Whoa, what else am I missing?!?'

Edited February 21, 2022 by shroomzofdoom

[howitzer]

35 minutes ago, shroomzofdoom said:

I discovered Lego Technic only a year ago and have probably gone a bit overboard.  Every now and again, I stumble upon a part that I am surprised is not more widespread in use.  The UCS AT-AT showed me that these exist and I was like 'Whoa, what else am I missing?!?'

That's a brand new part, so no surprise it's not more widespread (yet anyway). New parts are released every year, and while some will only find use in a few sets, most go on to be used for many purposes.

[SNIPE]

30 minutes ago, howitzer said:

That's a brand new part, so no surprise it's not more widespread (yet anyway). New parts are released every year, and while some will only find use in a few sets, most go on to be used for many purposes.

TBH, I thought this part would be cool but it comes out too easily. Maybe if LEGO could make one with friction then that will help. It is useful for
prototyping because you can easily take it out since there's no centre stop.

[gyenesvi]

29 minutes ago, howitzer said:

That's a brand new part, so no surprise it's not more widespread (yet anyway). New parts are released every year, and while some will only find use in a few sets, most go on to be used for many purposes.

This will be another very useful pin.. if it will have friction counterpart. And if it will also be available in 2L version (which I'd need more often).. It's a pity that we have to wait for the need in a Star Wars set to arise to actually have them.

[howitzer]

14 minutes ago, SNIPE said:

TBH, I thought this part would be cool but it comes out too easily. Maybe if LEGO could make one with friction then that will help. It is useful for
prototyping because you can easily take it out since there's no centre stop.

 

8 minutes ago, gyenesvi said:

This will be another very useful pin.. if it will have friction counterpart. And if it will also be available in 2L version (which I'd need more often).. It's a pity that we have to wait for the need in a Star Wars set to arise to actually have them.

Yeah, the frictionless characteristics makes me also think it's not nearly as useful as it could be. Though I wonder if it would be too hard to extract if it had friction?

[gyenesvi]

1 hour ago, howitzer said:

Though I wonder if it would be too hard to extract if it had friction?

Probably in most cases you could push it out from the other side, and once it's out a bit you can grab the stop and pull it out. Though there could be problematic rare cases when the other side is not accessible, like in other classic impossible-to-disassemble builds, and those cases may be easier to force out with a knife or something when it does not have friction..

[Gray Gear]

Would be great if it had a pinhole so you could get grip on the stop side to pull it out