The HF limbs are in no way less filled-in than the old BIONICLE limbs which were hollow, empty, and over-detailed. No thanks. I'd rather CCBS keep doing its own thing than see it revert back to unecessary technic construction because a few fans have decided never to like it no matter how long LEGO keeps using it.

This. Lego are doing a new thing, and it looks good. And you can make a CCBS MOC look just as detailed as some Bionicle MOC, if you have the right pieces.

The more you have, the more you can build.

Edited October 26, 201410 yr by LewiMOC

I just want new bones that are unique and more shells. That's really it.

New bones and shells and also the color pallette of Friends, that is what I wish for every night when I pray before my LEGO Altar.

I could really get into some muscly/sinew-y textured shells, and super bone-y bones. Like, that'd be really cool and are versatile enough for a multitude of purposes.

Here's some praise from me for the CCBS. The ease of customization is wonderful. I didn't like CHI Worriz or Eris at first, but after a bit of fiddling that only involved repositioning and swapping out a few shells and bones, I have them looking much much better. This was feasible with Bionicle too of course, but it was more difficult. I had the luxury of a near-complete collection dating back to '01 (Yes, I'm a grouchy '01 fanbo that seems to be so hated here.) so I had the parts to do whatever I wanted, but someone without such a library or parts would have had a hard time of that.

I don't really have problems with "zealots" of the old line, from what you've said you seem nothing like what most people dislike.

Anyway, yeah, I can agree with you on that. The lack of an insanity of specialized parts is very nice for customizing.

Oh, I've got another thing I'd like to see: A black version of the friction joint, without the rubber nub inside the ballcup. This would be good when you want to extend a bone section by one module, but don't want to tighten the socket joint (such as with Gen2 Tahu's ankles).

I'd just like to see new colors of it. Really frustrating having it only in one color.

EDIT: CORRECTION: We do have it in black. It was introduced only just now in the Summer sets, no wonder I missed it.

EDIT 2: Wait, Brickset is showing it in black in Breez Flea Machine yet VBBN's review has it in grey. Sigh...

Edited November 11, 201410 yr by JayWalker

Yeah, according to Brickset, some summer sets have it in black, but I've never seen any picture of it, and the few summer sets I own have the dark bley ones.

BTW, speaking of colors, we really need dark metal and golden hands.

Edited November 11, 201410 yr by Leewan

Yeah, according to Brickset, some summer sets have it in black, but I've never seen any picture of it, and the few summer sets I own have the dark bley ones.

BTW, speaking of colors, we really need dark metal and golden hands.

The Brickset listing is just a glitch in the render, I think. The official product images and every copy of the sets I'm aware of have it in Dark Stone Grey with a colorless rubber insert.

Yes, about the black friction joint: Aanchir is probably right about it being a glitch (maybe even an error?), though I think I was the first to notice it way back in June. But yes, I own multiples of almost all the sets that the black friction joint apparently appears in, and they're all Dark Stone Grey. I thought it might have been a batch error at first and later versions of the sets would have them in black, but that's definitely not the case.

Perhaps I also need to tell Bricklink catalog admins to remove that particular image since it doesn't actually exist yet. Looks like someone's grabbed that image from Brickset or wherever and it was accepted to BL.

The Brickset listing is just a glitch in the render, I think.

But don't they get their data directly from Lego ? And if it's an error, where does it's element number come from ?

There's a number of errors in Brickset's parts lists. Their inventory for Ogrum says the set has no gunmetal, or any color, Chestpiece.

But don't they get their data directly from Lego ? And if it's an error, where does it's element number come from ?

Even LEGO makes mistakes. For instance, the thumbnails for certain Toa Inika parts like Toa Inika Kongu's shoulder armor shows it as transparent. Just a glitch, nothing more.

I'm not saying the element doesn't exist, just that the thumbnail is incorrect. In real life it would be identical to the previous version of the part.

There's a number of errors in Brickset's parts lists. Their inventory for Ogrum says the set has no gunmetal, or any color, Chestpiece.

That's not really an error, just an example of the database being incomplete. The LEGO Customer Service website doesn't list parts in inventories unless they have thumbnails for them on their server. So a lot of sets, especially older ones, will have parts missing from the inventories.

Edited November 12, 201410 yr by Aanchir

why?

why?

My guess is that the square part next to the ball on the 6-length bone occupies some of the space that is given to the axle on the 4-length bone. That's for stability- without it the armor shells would flop around quite a bit more.

I propose a new 2 piece hand where the thumb can be oriented as left or right positioned. The back of the thumb would plug into palm / wrist, so as to remain interchangeable.

I propose a new 2 piece hand where the thumb can be oriented as left or right positioned. The back of the thumb would plug into palm / wrist, so as to remain interchangeable.

I'm not normally of the opinion that we need dedicated hand pieces with full articulation, but at the same time, I don't feel like the thumb position is a big enough issue to merit a new hand design on its own. So if there were a dedicated new hand design, I think articulated fingers would be a higher priority than thumb position.

Good point so add 3 slots for bionicle arms as fingers and one more slot for the thumb

It's not quite so simple. First, we won't have four fingers and a thumb with what you're proposing, we'll have three fingers and a thumb. Secondly... weapons. As much as it would make staffs not as much of a pain to deal with, you would have to have some kind of way for the hand to tightly and securely grip a weapon. As a general rule System Mechs use a similar style of hand, and it's painful to work with. And even if you include an axle hole and use bars on the side (as some have suggested) it ends up at the same point as non-poseable hands.

There's no actual need for articulated hands, or articulated waists. They would both be a lovely thing to have, but there's too many complications and too few real advantages.

I worked a bit on a new part that could be used for hands with articulated fingers, and came up with this :

The center of the rods are 8mm (1 stud) apart.

The main problem is the axehole, because it makes the part bigger, but is needed to hold a weapon, or anything. I could try to put an axehole between the fingers, but then I would have to set the rods at least two studs apart, and it would be too wide.

Exactly my point. You either have giant paws *cough* or no articulation at all.

Or no axehole. ;)

In which case... well, it's not very effective.

I worked a bit on a new part that could be used for hands with articulated fingers, and came up with this :

The center of the rods are 8mm (1 stud) apart.

The main problem is the axehole, because it makes the part bigger, but is needed to hold a weapon, or anything. I could try to put an axehole between the fingers, but then I would have to set the rods at least two studs apart, and it would be too wide.

This design looks pretty good on a functional and aesthetic level. One criticism, though — there's no way to produce such a part using injection molding, because there's no way to mold the inside surface of each bar in the center. With 3D printing it would be possible, so you could produce a custom part like that, but it's not something the LEGO Group could really mass-produce for use in sets.

Thanks Aanchir ! I think I could slightly improve the aesthetic, though.

One criticism, though — there's no way to produce such a part using injection molding, because there's no way to mold the inside surface of each bar in the center. With 3D printing it would be possible, so you could produce a custom part like that, but it's not something the LEGO Group could really mass-produce for use in sets.

True, this isn't something I thought of when I designed the part because it's more of a 3D sketch / concept than a final product.