The Middleman Posted March 27, 2005 Posted March 27, 2005 I heard something about Phoenix for X3? Quote
Sarg_Kulo Posted March 27, 2005 Posted March 27, 2005 Storm owns Phoenix, Jean Grey? I wish she had died >-| Okay that's kinda harsh... Quote
The Middleman Posted March 27, 2005 Posted March 27, 2005 I don't know, Storm gets boring after a while. I never much liked the X-Men movies anyway, I think Spiderman brings in the personalities more realistically. Quote
Sarg_Kulo Posted March 27, 2005 Posted March 27, 2005 I don't know, Storm gets boring after a while. I never much liked the X-Men movies anyway, I think Spiderman brings in the personalities more realistically. I agree about spidey being better but the xmen movies were still cool. The second was alot better tho ;) Quote
xwingyoda Posted March 28, 2005 Author Posted March 28, 2005 Really its hard to compare the Spiderman movies with the X-men movies ;) OK they're both marvel comics (thanks Stan Lee for all you've done ;) ), Sure you have that common thread: super hero(s) must save the world from egocentric villain, but the way that is treated and the atmosphere is quite different. S1 concentrates of how PP became S, and S2 shows PP's deep interrogations on his life, the doubts he is facing... Its more inter the psyche of the character. Also the message of S is that one man can make a difference in todays world. Whereas XM represent a team of superheros having to work together with their different emotions, background and doubts. One man cannot make a difference as an individual but the group he is in can. In a way it can be viewed as more interesting to have that crossfire of different characters: wolvie in constant quest of his past, jean Grey attracted by two men barely discovers her true powers by sacrifying her life (so it seems at the end of X2 before she rises like the phoenix), the youg ones having difficulties coping with the power they have... (even one turning to the dark side ;) ). The analogy with the nazi regime really show a different morale than in S, being part of a different group, being feered by others doesn't make you less of a man. Aslo the movie shows how a multiracial and multicultural society must work together without feers of discreminations due to your beliefs, religion... I am not taking sides here because I am a big fan of both S and XM ;) Quote
Sarg_Kulo Posted March 28, 2005 Posted March 28, 2005 As am I. But i think in overal excitment spidey is just better. I also like the humour in spidey, There is a bit in XM but I kind of like the more jokey side to spiderman. One of the reasons I like Republic Commando is because of the humour. I'm sure many would disagrea with me tho and say XM is supposed to be serious. :/ Quote
xwingyoda Posted March 28, 2005 Author Posted March 28, 2005 S and XM are not supposed to be comedies but they do include nice humour which is nice ;) Two different movies, two different directors, two kind of humour ;) Quote
ApophisV Posted March 28, 2005 Posted March 28, 2005 S1 concentrates of how PP became S, and S2 shows PP's deep interrogations on his life At least it wasn't F that did V with L4 and R1 because of O getting closer to the Y! :P :P :P Actually I always enjoyed both Spidey and X-Men, but I think I'll always like Spidey more than the X-Men ;) And as a question for the Marvel freaks around here: Share Spidey and the X-Men one universe? Or are they seperated from each other? (There weren't any mutants shown at the Spidey movies and comics I've seen / read so far) Quote
xwingyoda Posted March 28, 2005 Author Posted March 28, 2005 S1 concentrates of how PP became S, and S2 shows PP's deep interrogations on his life At least it wasn't F that did V with L4 and R1 because of O getting closer to the Y! :P :P :P OK Apo I get it ;) :P No more stupid acronyms ;) Quote
Jipay Posted March 29, 2005 Posted March 29, 2005 Really its hard to compare the Spiderman movies with the X-men movies ;) OK they're both marvel comics (thanks Stan Lee for all you've done ;) ), Sure you have that common thread: super hero(s) must save the world from egocentric villain, but the way that is treated and the atmosphere is quite different. S1 concentrates of how PP became S, and S2 shows PP's deep interrogations on his life, the doubts he is facing... Its more inter the psyche of the character. Also the message of S is that one man can make a difference in todays world. Whereas XM represent a team of superheros having to work together with their different emotions, background and doubts. One man cannot make a difference as an individual but the group he is in can. In a way it can be viewed as more interesting to have that crossfire of different characters: wolvie in constant quest of his past, jean Grey attracted by two men barely discovers her true powers by sacrifying her life (so it seems at the end of X2 before she rises like the phoenix), the youg ones having difficulties coping with the power they have... (even one turning to the dark side ;) ). The analogy with the nazi regime really show a different morale than in S, being part of a different group, being feered by others doesn't make you less of a man. Aslo the movie shows how a multiracial and multicultural society must work together without feers of discreminations due to your beliefs, religion... I am not taking sides here because I am a big fan of both S and XM ;) Honestly I loved spidey 2 for the fun, but I much prefered Xmen 2 as a movie itself. I think spidey 2 reminds me of my "teenage" years so it was fun to watch this guy torn between the choices of life he has. On the other side X2 is in my opinon a mor mature movie, but i think that all the characters have a much better background : they are all mysterious and some informations are leaking in every movie about their past and family. Not to mention it gives us a true issue : how would we react if humanity was separated in two :/ And i think the special effects in spiderman 2 were sometimes not that good comparred to Xmen 2. Ok, i always preferred the Xmen even before the movies were out, but still :-D WOlverine rocks *satis* Quote
Peoples_General Posted April 11, 2005 Posted April 11, 2005 X3..... new villain I would love to see is Apocalypse. *devil* muwahahahahaha Or how about that Shi'ar Empire like in the X-men cartoons, the older version... not X-Men:Evolution. Quote
xwingyoda Posted May 22, 2005 Author Posted May 22, 2005 Guys, Here is the new actor playing the second villain: Topher Grace (that 70's show) ;) Spider-Man 3 directed by Sam Raimi, is scheduled for release May 4, 2007, so we'll have time to know the evil characters ;) as always, the cnn link: http://edition.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies...reut/index.html Enjoy!!! Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted May 22, 2005 Governor Posted May 22, 2005 So no mention of who the villains are yet? Quote
The Middleman Posted May 22, 2005 Posted May 22, 2005 So no mention of who the villains are yet? According to a spy, some stuff in the movie warehouses indicated that the villains were going to be Sandman and Venom. Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted May 22, 2005 Governor Posted May 22, 2005 How accurate is this information likely to be? And what of the Green Goblin gear Harry discovers at the end of Sipoderman 2 with his old man yelling "Avenge me!"? Isn't that a prologue for a story line in Spiderman 3? Quote
The Middleman Posted May 22, 2005 Posted May 22, 2005 How accurate is this information likely to be? And what of the Green Goblin gear Harry discovers at the end of Sipoderman 2 with his old man yelling "Avenge me!"? Isn't that a prologue for a story line in Spiderman 3? According to Aintitcool.com, very accurate (and they're usually right). Also, keep in mind that Harry could decide to use the suit for good rather than evil, so he's not necessarily a villain. Quote
xwingyoda Posted May 22, 2005 Author Posted May 22, 2005 and we have the two actors playing two villains... Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted May 23, 2005 Governor Posted May 23, 2005 According to Aintitcool.com, very accurate (and they're usually right). Also, keep in mind that Harry could decide to use the suit for good rather than evil, so he's not necessarily a villain. By "avenge me" I automatically assume that means get revenge upon Spiderman for killing me. It doesn't seem to imply doing anything good. Quote
The Middleman Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 According to Aintitcool.com, very accurate (and they're usually right). Also, keep in mind that Harry could decide to use the suit for good rather than evil, so he's not necessarily a villain. By "avenge me" I automatically assume that means get revenge upon Spiderman for killing me. It doesn't seem to imply doing anything good. But that's not Harry, that's Norman. Harry could decide not to listen to his father's voice. Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted May 23, 2005 Governor Posted May 23, 2005 That he could, but from what I've seen he isn't too pleased with Spiderman and seems only too happy to avenge his father. Quote
keetongu Posted August 28, 2005 Posted August 28, 2005 Hold it,hold it!Ok,I saw an episode with spidercarnage and venom at the same time(on the cartoon),and that meant spidey had 2 enimies,or maybe it will be the insidious6,I dunno. ;) :o *wacko* Quote
Sarg_Kulo Posted August 28, 2005 Posted August 28, 2005 Hold it,hold it!Ok,I saw an episode with spidercarnage and venom at the same time(on the cartoon),and that meant spidey had 2 enimies,or maybe it will be the insidious6,I dunno. ;) :o *wacko* That was a nice episode ;) Your on about the one where brock got sucked into that black hole like thing right? Quote
Vader Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 Would be cool if it was venom, but not sure how they could write him into the story though. Quote
Dino_Bot Posted September 13, 2005 Posted September 13, 2005 Well, Wolf-Man's pretty obscure, yet it makes sense...Jameson already appeared in the movie saying the following line:"Woah, i'm back on the moon...Would you like to do now?"... Venom...yeah! Quote
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